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Now, here is the podcast, Metal Heads Podcast Go.

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Hello, and welcome to the Metal Heads Podcast.

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My name is George.

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This is Jake.

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This is Will.

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And this is John.

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And we are joined today by Gage Love from Nyramarth.

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Hi, Gage. How you doing?

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Hey, everybody. Good. Thanks for having me on the show.

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No problem.

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So Nyramarth is a one-man project, and you released your first album, The Innumerable Stars, back in October. Yep. Could you start off by telling us a little bit about the project and the album, and maybe while you're at it, throw in some backstory? Oh, sure, sure. So I started in 2012, kind of wrote songs over the next three, four years. I'm a data analyst for a living, so I kind of like write in the evenings and then weekends, etc.

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Black Metal Project that was going to be a Tolkien-themed project. That's where the name comes. We can get into that. But I listened to so many different things that kind of as I started writing, it became a lot more than that. So it's kind of like my vehicle to explore the progressive side of all the different types of extreme metal, you know, Black Death, Doom, and then also inserting some electronic influences, power metal influences, and some other things.

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You speak in our language, man. Are you a control freak that you want to do it all yourself or you just can't find anybody that does what you want to do? I completely understand that, by the way. Yeah, that's probably most of it, actually. But no, it's also a vehicle to get better at mixing, producing music, etc. And a lot of times it's just a different element.

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I love playing with other people. But when you have total control over it, you can execute your vision 100%. And then there's nobody else to blame either. Nobody likes it. It's just my fault. That's my problem. Yeah. And then plus, I've got a 9 to 5 or more job for an economic consulting firm. And often I can have really long weeks. So it's something where I can work on it when I want to.

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And being without a label and being with just me and my computer and my rig, it kind of gives me the freedom to do anything that I want. But I still put some kind of boundaries on it, I suppose. Can I just say that you heard it here first, that all of the new hot metal is coming out of economic consulting firms. There you go. So what would you call this style then? It's a mashup of so many things.

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I said progressive metal for a while. Since I don't have a label, I have to kind of like... My friends were actually talking about this today. You don't have the experience of getting a tape or a CD or just buying a record because it had a dragon on the cover when you were a kid. We've got all these filters and tags set up. It's almost like if you don't tell people what they're going to listen to in the next five minutes...

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So for the first time I just went with progressive metal

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and then would reference maybe Isan, Enslaved, Leprous, Opeth, that kind of stuff.

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But I think I've gravitated

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lately towards progressive extreme metal

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especially because the next record I'm writing

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there's a lot more doom and black and melodic death on it.

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But that also shifts me

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from the whole kind of gent wave, which I want nothing to do with. I guess people like that. That's cool. But it's just like, I don't want to be a gent band. Can't fault you there. So there's a few bands that use the progressive extreme metal moniker, and I'll go with that. But I generally try to just, I just say progressive metal and let people do whatever they want. There's like, it's really, one of the funniest things has been reading what people will try to classify it. I think one site was like,

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Like, progressive, atmospheric, melodic, black-slash-death-slash-doom-slash-symphonic metal. Smooth jazz. So, I don't know. With a twist. I think one thing I was curious about is figuring out what people were going to think of it once I went into it. Because, you know, I kind of went out to write something that I could be proud of, but also something, you know, just the style of music I like to listen to. So, I didn't know, like, what people would think. Everybody's calling it, like, a black metal project,

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which is a little perplexing to me. I have obviously the Isan influence and I think I do some kind of over type, Aglock type black metal here and there. But it's not the dominant part. Not at all. So people are like, yeah, newest black metal release. Post me on our black metal. Please don't do it. So black metal is very important to me, especially the progressive stuff.

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And I like to add those influences in, but I definitely try to stay away from, you know, being pigeonholed, I guess, so I can do whatever I want. But you, what are some of the bands you like right now, especially in the sort of progressive black metal? Right now, well, Isan is kind of top of the game, I guess, for that. There's a lot of smaller bands. I like Club Out of Man. I think they're doing really cool stuff. I actually haven't listened to their new record, but they've got an old one, The Old Chamber, which is really good. I think it's 20.

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2011. They're a German. I think it was a one-man for a while. But them, Clobautomon, I like Greek stuff. Aneon and Hail Spirit Noir are really cool. Oh, yeah. Yeah. What else do I like in terms of progressive black metal? Yeah, Isan Enslaved. Leprous isn't doing that really anymore. Who else? Borknagar is one of my favorites. Arcturus is great. We like that. Pretty much anything Scandinavian. So, like, kind of the, I guess, the lineage.

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of my stuff is mostly Scandinavian death metal. And then later Prague, we can get into my influences later. But yeah, pretty much anything up north. But those are some of my favorites. I wanted to mention before I forget that a lot of bands that I hear that try to throw in so many different types of things is very clunky. It's a little forced.

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and it's maybe a little more avant-garde than really a good prog mix of things. And as much different stuff as you do, it just flows really nicely, I think. Cool, thanks. I really appreciate that. That was something I really tried to do, and I wrote a lot of the songs linearly to try to get that. If I couldn't find something that went next, it's not going into the computer, you know? So I'm glad. Because, yeah, it can be a train ride.

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sometimes when you mix those genres. Even when you stay within, I love Opeth's Watershed, but you could probably say he kind of, you know, did some interesting transitions here and there. And so, yeah, I tried to make everything flow, even with all the different genres, especially when I go into, like, electronic stuff, and it's kind of strange. But anyway. Do I listen to Synthwave? Yes. Do you listen to Synthwave? Yeah, that's what I thought. No.

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So, a little bit, I actually started writing this, including the intro, before Stranger Things was a thing. I was going to ask you. Before I even started listening. Yeah, it's actually, well, I don't hear it that often, but yeah, I wrote that in like 2013. Uh-huh. And no, most of my synth influences come from, anytime it leaks into the Scandinavian metal, I really appreciate Catatonia, how they do things. They work with a guy named Frank Default, as well as Krister Lindberg.

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He was a guest on Night is the New Day on Forsaker, I think. No, Departer. Departer. So, you know, I like that stuff a lot. I like ambient music and Norwegian, just like any Scandinavian jazz type stuff, like Terrier Ripe Doll or the Hearts of Space podcast is really good for those kind of ambient things. And then, let's see, like some soundtrack stuff like Hans Zimmer. I like some Psytrance.

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But yeah, I mean, I feel like, oh, Dark Tranquility is another band that I think integrates electronics really well. I was surprised, you know, when Stranger Things comes out later, and I'm like, okay, cool. And then Synthwave. I think my stuff is less, I mean, maybe there's some shared influences, like I like Tangerine Dream and Vangelis. So I guess, you know, that stuff has been all the rage the past two or three years.

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But on Synthwave, I haven't super deep dived on everything, but I love Carpenter Brute and I love, what's his bucket? Perturbator. He actually came to Salt Lake City and that was just the funnest time because you get a bunch of dorky, socially awkward metalheads totally thrown down on the dance floor. So it was fun. Yeah, I'm the lone Synthwave fan on the podcast and I take a lot of shit for it. I was like, hey, kindred spirit.

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All right. Yep. Yep. So, uh, I would have thought it would be hard to find awkward people in Salt Lake City. That's interesting. Is that where you are now? Yeah, is that where you are in Salt Lake City? Yeah, I'm in Salt Lake City. Yeah, there's, it's funny. I did an Italian, uh, interview, written interview and, and they were like, what is it like to, to live in a place with a, not so, so good of a metal scene as, as Salt Lake? And I was like, oh, we're doing really good. But, uh, yeah, you know, there's, uh, there's a lot of people out there.

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here. There's relatively few people that do all of their own stuff, I guess, out here, but some of us are kind of getting together. A couple of guys from Visigoth and other people do stuff here. I like the new Visigoth. Yep, it's cool. We had a fun time working on it. Awesome. So I think you said you started working on material in 2012? Yeah, 2012 I wrote, I don't know if you're familiar with the song titles, but

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I wrote Subterranean in 2012, wrote another two or three songs, including a lot of the themes from the first and last song, the Through the Cosmos suite, I guess you could call it, and then moved from D.C. out to Salt Lake, got a new job. It was kind of another year and a half where I didn't get a lot done. I think I wrote one song. I was saving up for some better gear that I wanted because the demos, they were okay.

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But I really wanted to kind of up the production value as much as I could. So saved up, got some extra gear, and then started writing the rest of it in 2015, 2016. So it's not like I was intensely crafting this for five years. There were some down periods just due to everyday life. But yeah, started in 2012 and then recorded it all fall 2016.

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doing music.

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Um, guitar, uh, when I was 13, but I would say piano and voice when I was, when I was little, I took piano lessons. My ear was good enough to where, um, I could never have the patience to learn to read sheet music when I was that age. I can read now, but I'm not like a good sight reader. Um, but, uh, I would say piano. And then, um, I was in choir, uh, and did kind of vocal performance stuff a lot when I was, when I was younger. Um, so that all through school picked up a guitar.

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when I was probably about 13 and played that ever since. And I've still done keyboards and other things. So I think the choral music background helps out a lot in all of the orchestration work that I do and that kind of thing. But yeah, so I would say probably voice. Voice and piano is first, but guitar is my main instrument. I was curious because I was wondering what you, when you're ready to write, what do you start writing with?

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What I write on? Yeah. Actually, a lot of this album was written on the keyboard, and I would kind of come up with either atmosphere, mood, or like a synth line, or like a melody. And this time around, I'm actually writing the last song, so we'll probably have a new record here pretty soon. Awesome. But I wanted to go a lot more riff-centric on this one, so I actually have been writing a lot more on the guitar as opposed to the keyboard.

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But I'll still come up with melodies and stuff. I enjoy composing on the keyboard even if I'm doing a heavier song. Because, you know, if you play a certain instrument for a while, you get your kind of muscle memory defaults to certain positions and stuff. And while I'm, like, reasonably good at piano, I'm not, like, I don't have any habits or anything. So I can just kind of explore and I don't have these preconceived notions of, oh, this is a shape and then you go to that one. Oh, this is a death doom part, so I guess you have to do this chord change.

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I don't have that stuff. So I enjoy it. It's kind of liberating.

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What tools do you use to record? I assume it's all on the computer.

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Yeah. So at least for the first album, I used Cubase as my digital audio workstation program.

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And then I have like a two channel universal audio Apollo interface. That's where I do everything from.

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I will typically scratch out the guitars with like an amp model or kind of thing.

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But I'll, uh, uh, those were, I think, a 5153 and a, and a Port City cabinet with two 57s on the, on the cabinet. So I did real guitars on there and then fake drums, which everybody loves, um, to complain about. Yeah. But, uh, just to cut you off real quick, since you mentioned that, I'm a drummer from many moons ago. I haven't played in a while, but it doesn't sound like it's overdone. So. Thank you. They can complain about that.

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It's the prog people that complain about it.

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Prog people complain about everything.

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John's our prog guy.

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I'm a prog guy.

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And he generally complains about electronic drums.

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So this is amazing.

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The metal people, they don't care at all.

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They're like, cool, new summoning, great.

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I'm in this weird place, right?

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Because I love the extreme metal and I've got that in there.

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But I've also got the prog stuff in there as well.

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And that's often two different crowds. And, you know, there's, there were, there were, there were reviewers that like basically refused to review it because it has electronic drums on it. And I don't think they knew beforehand. They like listened on headphones and like, I'm concerned about the drums. And so like, I understand, I understand people, you know, want a certain thing, but like, I'm one dude in a bedroom in Utah and I can either, you know, like,

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send it out to David Castillo to polish up my mixing job, or I can have a crappy recording and hire a session drummer. I was going to say, and these are the same reviewers that would sit there and tell you that King Crimson's Discipline is the greatest album ever made, right? And it's just all synth drums, the whole thing.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so they've read, probably reviewed thousands of albums that are electronic drums. But anyway.

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But I spent a lot of time on them. And I think they sound pretty damn good for electronic drums. So I'm obviously not a drummer. So I'm sure it would sound better if somebody else did it. But I can't tell. I mean, I don't go into the music generally trying to discern whether they're real or not. You know, that one album in particular recently that was quite obvious to me was the new Summoning album. Yeah. And I mentioned on the last episode that I was kind of like, oh, you know, I don't know.

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kind of disappointed in this new album because

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it kind of takes the listener out of

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the experience when the whole thing sounds

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so synthetic

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that's the difference though George you

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say you don't look for it but the problem is if it

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jumps out at you then you know

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it's like you know summoning were great back in the

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90s because it was raw

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and it was it was what it was

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and I'm not saying I don't like the new album

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but it

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kind of grates on me that it sounds

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like somebody banging on a Casio

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keyboard in his mom's basement. You just need to play more JRPGs on your Super Nintendo, man. We'll be fine with it after that. Yeah. But yeah, I mean, so I tried to I tried to do a realistic take, obviously, because with my resources, I was going to be able to get a better sound out of electronic than I can, you know, with other methods. And and that puts me in this weird place where Prague. I mean, the annoying thing is, is they're like, dude, you're so talented.

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and this is just an amazing album. Nine, because I don't like electronic drums. I can't listen to it now. It just really bothers me. That's annoying, because you put hundreds of hours of work into something, and then people are like, I made it for myself. I'm trying to figure out if I want to spite everyone and go more lo-fi with what

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Or try to program it so that they will never know or just get a real drummer. Because, you know, I've always wanted to get a real drummer. It's just, you know, how long do we want to wait? How long do I have to save up to get this thing out and then make no money on it still? So, which is not why I do it. But, you know. Or you could just not put it in the liner notes and just say that you played all the instruments and just leave it at that. And they're like, man, you really improved on your drumming. They probably wouldn't care. Seriously. It's the fact that they know about it. Yeah. So.

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And plus, like, the whole, everybody tries to make their drums sound like drum samples anyway, and almost every death metal band has drum samples, triggers, everything laid in. So that's just how the business works. They just don't like it when they know about it. Yeah. These are the same guys who like Mike Portnoy's snare on images and words, too. Who plays the sax? Juergen Munkabee. He's from Shining. So he's a really awesome guy. So the Norwegian Shining, not the Swedish Shining. Yep.

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Juergen's played, he's got an extensive repertoire, he's worked with

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Enslaved on some commission piece, he works with Isan on every album since After, I believe.

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He's awesome on After.

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Oh yeah, he's amazing, he's worked with Devin Townsend, tons of stuff. The old Shining stuff is quite different, their newer stuff is kind of industrial infused, think of kind of like, I don't know, I would say, at least for a couple of their albums, kind of Dillinger Escape Plan meets Nine Inch Nails.

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in Norway. But they do this kind of black jazz thing. But their older stuff is quite 70s-laden,

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prog-esque. I was going to ask how you worked him into the mix in terms of the recording. How did you guys collaborate? Yeah. So like I said, I did demos for all of the songs. I wrote that song, Luminous Beings, in 2014. And originally, the part that he first

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comes in on is a it was actually a bass solo and then when I came back to actually produce the final album I said hey that I kind of hear a saxophone in my head now and so I was I sat there head scratching for a while because I was like maybe I'll like find somebody local or I'll like look online and stuff and then I was kind of like well who do I want to have on it and I was like well duh Juergen and so I just kind of plunked around because

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Obviously, some musicians do session work. And so I just went out to his website. He had his little contact me for session work. And so I rigged up a demo for him. I replaced the bass with a little really corny summoning sax. And sent it over to him and was like, hey, here's what I want to do. Let me know if he'd be interested. And I didn't know if, I don't know how choosy he is or whatever, but he seemed to be really stoked to work on it.

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and he's been super helpful. A lot of people click on it just for him. That was kind of my, it was kind of a strategy in that, you know, I don't have a label and I sent out, you know, however many copies for review, you know, probably like 50 to 100 to various places. And, you know, every everywhere is going to have, you know, 10,000 things in their inbox. They're always going to, you know, album review request, blah, blah, blah, blah. And so I figured album review request featuring a single with Juergen Munkabee of

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Shining and Isan would probably go a lot farther than this band you've never heard of. So that worked out well. But originally it was just going to be that first little lick. And then he emailed me back and said, hey, usually I do stuff on the whole song. So I was like, have at it. And then he added the solo in the middle and everything. So it was just, I'm super stoked on the collaboration. And then that got me, it kind of got me out of my bedroom in a sense, in kind of a dream sense where,

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I had never thought I'd work with somebody of that caliber. And when it came to the time to master it, I was like, well, I could master it myself. Or why don't I just see if somebody else would master it? So I was looking at Jens Bagram and David Castillo. David Castillo has worked with Catatonia on several records. He did Dead End Kings and Night is the New Day. I think he does tons of engineering at Fascination Street. He's tracked the past leprous records, etc.

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So, you know, who do you want to mix your album? Well, Night is the New Day is my favorite sounding record, so I guess I might as well try to get that guy. And then I got that guy. So, you know, obviously you got to drop some cash on these guys because, you know, it's their job and stuff. But I wish they were more glamorous. But at the same time, it's kind of like this cool Stradivarius style, you know, shoot for the stars thing where I was like, hey, I'll just do the best thing I can. And, you know, screw it. I'll work with these guys.

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So it worked out well so far. How did you incorporate like did you send him Cubase files and he just you know or. Yeah actually I don't know what DAW he works in but so I just sent him on grid stereo file of you know my reference stuff. One with I think the Q and one without the Q. Just send him the time signature and tempo. He locks it into his session and then he's got his studio there at his place.

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He recorded his saxophone, sent it back to me. What he'll do is he'll send back

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these example demos of, hey, is this okay? He wanted to check all of his improvs with me and stuff.

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So we tinkered around a few sessions, and then he did the absolute perfect take. So he just sends me the raw files, and then I mixed it in just like you would if you were a mix engineer.

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So it was a pretty seamless process. That was the first time I had worked with other musicians

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across overseas. Worked out really well. I'm planning on having more guest spots on this album, mostly vocals.

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And I think I haven't emailed him yet, but Juergen's got another spot on the next one, too.

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And I think I'm working with David again.

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So you mentioned some of your influences, if you don't mind, since we've kind of covered some of them.

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You mentioned some 70s influences.

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The reason I ask is because there's a current prog band that I don't know if you like them and I'll ask you about it, but I want to wait to hear what you have to say first about some of the non-metal influences. This band? Wobbler? Maybe. Okay. No. Actually, that wasn't the band, but I know that I read that you do like Wobbler, but I'm glad you like that. I do like Wobbler. Wobbler's great. I just got the LP in the mail today. Anyway, yeah, so on the 70s end, I got really...

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Actually, should I just tell my full influence story from the beginning? Sure. I won't take too long. So I got into metal through Metallica's Zangestus for All. And then I didn't really go through a thrash or kind of trad metal phase for a while at all. I quickly, within a couple years, found Dark Tranquility and Gothenburg-style death metal. And that was when I was 13 or 14. I simultaneously got into that.

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as well as Rhapsody. So I listened to, you know, power metal concurrently. And I think I was still like skate punk and other things like that. But my entry into the underground metal world was through Swedish death metal melodic stuff rather than the first wave, even though I got into that later. So mellow death was kind of my big forte for a while. At the same time, I developed love for, you know, more progressive stuff like Nevermore, things like that.

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But it was mostly Melodeath and Rhapsody. And then got into more power metal bands like Stradivarius and all that type of stuff. Later into Prog Power. I get into Symphony X. I didn't really know. So I'm maybe I'm 31. So I'm like on the tail end of when we remember that the internet wasn't really useful for anything. And you had to rely on like the dude at the record shop or your friend that had a tape. And so, you know, I listened to Rhapsody.

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And then I didn't even listen to Blind Guardian until like, you know, five years later maybe. Whereas everybody now is like, yeah, I listen to Angra and Blind Guardian and Halloween and Freedom Call and all this stuff that I saw on a forum within five seconds. And then you're an immediate master on power metal, right? Yeah. But yeah, so it was the melodic death metal, the power metal. I get into progressive leaning stuff with Symphony X. And then Opeth's Ghost Reveries, Blue Metal.

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my mind when it came out. Still didn't really know what 70s Prague was, but as I started to get into Opeth and then Porcupine Tree, Stephen Wilson, I was like, holy crap, what is this stuff? And then I go back, and I knew Pink Floyd and stuff when I was growing up, but once I had the internet as a functional entity, and once I knew I could go back and listen to King Crimson and Gentle Giant and Jethro Tull, Yes, etc.,

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Then deep dove into Italian Prague with Banco and Premiata Forneria Marconi and stuff. Believe me, when the Prague people are mad at me because I have electronic drums and then I'm like, how much RPI do you listen to, sir? Yeah, exactly. It's like, okay, fine. We don't need more snobbery here. Black Metal was a little bit later. Concurrently listened to kind of like Death Doom stuff, Swallow the Sun.

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And then I guess the the opethian type stuff like Daylight Dies got into that stuff a little bit later. And then black metal wasn't really until about 2011-2012. I had listened to Emperor, but I was kind of a hi-fi snob and I could never get into a lot of black metal because it would just sounded like terrible. But I always loved Emperor. And then with Isan's After and Enslaved post kind of 2003 Below the Lights On records,

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Those got me into black metal because I understood like, you know, as kind of Opeth was to death metal, as progressive death metal enslaved, Isan kind of are that same token except with the black metal genre. And that got me into that. And then every time I explore a new genre, I like to, you know, explore the old stuff as well and do my history. So, but Emperor is always going to be my favorite.

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I'm an early black metal band. And then I have a lot of musical theater influences and other electronic and symphonic and all that garbage. So the reason I asked is because listening to the album, as you get towards the middle of the album, towards the end, but not into the final song, I hear, and I'm not saying that you sound like this, I just, I was wondering if this was an influence. You know the band Wolverine from Sweden? I do. Okay.

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There's just some moments where I hear some of the... It just sounds like it's an influence. It might just be a complete coincidence. It's not. Yeah, I know of them. I think I listened to maybe their last record, like half of it, and I don't really listen to them. They're a band on my checkout list, but I think it's probably a case of shared influences. It has to be, because there's a couple moments. I'm just like, wow. Okay, I might be the only person who's ever going to

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I haven't mentioned Wolverine on this podcast ever. I think it might have come up once. Yeah, because you're speaking my language with all the bands you're mentioning right now. Okay, good. We'll be buddies. Yeah. Mostly people bring up, well, I mean, it's a double-edged sword because to advertise, I used bands that I thought people would like. And then they're like, oh, cool. Well, you're just like an American Ysan and enslaved and leprosy and blah, blah, blah, which, yeah. Could be worse. It could be worse, right? Yeah. I mean, I think I have some very

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I try to mix them in a novel way. Hopefully, with the second record, people will kind of understand what is me about the project, I suppose. I forget where I was going with that. You sound like you're a fan also. There's a lot of bands. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. I listen to music all day. I'm always trying to discover new things.

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Ever since my buddy gave me a like a mixed CD with like Punish My Heaven, Dark Tranquility was the first song it had at the gates, Nevermore, Nightwish, Meshuggah, a bunch of other stuff. Ever since then, I've just been like absolutely head over heels over, you know, the extreme community, etc. And then, you know, once I found Prague, it was a whole nother genre for me to kind of delve into. So yeah, I'm foremost a fan.

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It's why I do what I do. I just want to make stuff that people be stoked about like I am. I know we've all interviewed some bands at some point somewhere down the line or we've read interviews or whatever, YouTube or video, where bands say, oh, I just don't have time to listen to music. I'm just so busy making my own music. And it's so nice to hear somebody who's made an album. And I know this about you too, Jay, because we talk about stuff all the time. It's nice to hear

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that are in the industry also say,

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oh, dude, I'm a fucking huge fan as well.

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I mean, I wouldn't be doing this if I wasn't a fan.

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Yeah.

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I mean, I guess I can understand if maybe like I was a full-time touring musician

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and I was like mixing full-time and always listening to heavy stuff

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and I needed to like listen to ambient music to go to sleep or something.

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Like, I guess I kind of understand that.

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But like every time I see like a Metal Sucks article where like,

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I don't even remember what it was.

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It was something like this morning. Somebody was like, yeah, now that Slayer's gone, you know, all that's left. I'm like, what are you talking about? We're in like a golden age. Yeah. I read an interview with, of all people, this is a little bit, a slightly off topic with Eddie Van Halen in the 80s. And he said the last record he had bought was Peter Gabriel's So album. And with God is my witness. Yeah. And then I read an interview with him just like a week ago.

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For whatever reason, I don't follow Van Halen really that much. And he still said that was the last album he bought? I swear, that's absolutely true, George. He was like, you know what, I think the last one I bought was Peter Gabriel. I was like, do you ever buy a record since 1980-something? And all due respect to Eddie Van Halen, he shouldn't be buying records. They should just send him records. Yeah. So I'm always going to call bullshit on anybody that says that. Exactly. Well, we get a lot of that when we ask bands, hey, so what have you been listening to?

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Or like, do you have any, you know, like towards the end of the year, we go, hey, you know, what are some of your favorite albums from this year? And they're like, well, I haven't really listened to anything from this year yet. I'm still catching up on last year. So did you want my quick top 20 from last year? I was just going to say, you know, what were your favorite albums from last year? I've got you taken care of. Hold on a second. Okay, so I did a top 20. There are some non-metal, but it's mostly metal. Hit us. It's loading.

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Hold on. While it's loading, I was just going to say, you mentioned Nevermore a couple of times, and you know, just to kind of make note of World Dane's passing here recently. Yeah, I'm still jamming Nevermore every week. It's like that. What's your favorite one? Dead Heart or Dreamy Neon Black, but probably Dead Heart. That completely blew my mind. I mean, it comes out in 2000. I had gotten into Metal, I think, 99 is when I got into Underground.

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stuff. And that came out and just like Loomis's guitar is insane.

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World Dane's like vocals. Actually, I don't sound anything like him, but I think if you probably listen to my stuff, a lot of the phrasing I use and note choice is probably heavily Nevermore influenced because they taught me how to do metal.

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It was funny. He did a Conquering Dystopia tour. Jeff did.

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And I finally got to meet him. And I have let my other friends, I never want to meet people because I get all socially awkward. I'm like, hello, you changed my life. And like, it did the same thing with like dark tranquility. I remember I saw them on the ghost deliveries tour in Oh five. And, and they were like hanging out at the back of the rave in Milwaukee. And, you know, that was back when, you know, fiction hadn't come out. And so not many people really listened to them. And so I kind of like, I recognized him in the back and went up to him and was like,

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It's like, you guys got me into melodic death metal. And I'm just this little, you know, 15 year old kid or whatever. Or I guess that was 2005. So that's later. But, you know, like, totally fanboyed. I saw Dark Tranquility. It was early on. I mean, probably like 2003. I can't remember who they were touring with, but it was at Jack's. And oh, yeah. And yeah, you would know that, wouldn't you? Yep. And Empire, they call it now.

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It's gone now. Yeah, it's gone. Okay. But I went outside and the Dark Tranquility singer was on his cell phone yelling at somebody. And I was like, dude! He's a super cool guy. I haven't really talked to him a lot, but my buddy Paul, who did the growls on my record, him and Michael always hook up when he comes in town, get him beer and stuff. Nice. Hopefully we'll see him next year.

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Yeah, let's hear that list. I really tried not to, but Ulver was my favorite record of the year. I dig it because I like the style of music. Yeah, I'm not embarrassed about it. It's just like, isn't my main record a metal record? But no, it was the Ulver assassination of Julius Caesar. I listened to it more than anything else. So Ulver, Dodecahedron, Quintessence, they're Dutch kind of

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Yeah.

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Yep.

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Mix.

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Some of the guys from Exivius are in them.

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And then I think a few of these guys are in Ulsect.

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There are a ton of these kind of, what do you want to call them, like Gorgut's Deathspell Omega hybrid bands now.

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It's like the new thing.

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You know, it was power violence for a couple years with like Nails and all the Entombed Corps.

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And then now it's kind of still this whole kind of Death Spell Omega, old Gorgits type stuff going on. They're a standout, I think, in that. And I actually hear a lot more enslaved than I do the other type of stuff. But them and then Dreadnought, Waken and Sacred Waves, amazing record. They're really cool, too. Kelly is probably going to be on my new record. We can talk about that later. And then Arca.

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No, sorry. Wobbler. Wobbler was my number four. Arca is a Venezuelan producer, electronic music. He worked with Bjork on her last album, Vulnicura. Last, last album, Vulnicura. And then her new album, he also worked on as well. Cool. That's a really cool, weird album. Then Pelorian, that's the, what do they call themselves? Dark metal. Now, that's the other new thing, by the way.

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I've noticed is Dark Metal. Maybe I'll go with that. We'll see. Which is just them being more straight ahead Black Metal than Agaloc, right? Yeah, exactly. I actually like them a lot better than Agaloc. Agaloc can get a little bit boring to me, but I like the mantle and stuff, so that's good. Septic Flesh, Codex Omega, that was... I was not expecting to like that as much as I did. I really like new Septic Flesh, but I was like... There's usually...

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two or three or four songs I'm stoked about on the record. And then I kind of lose interest. But this one, the more I listen to it, I love it. More obscure one here, Inferno, Gnosis Cardius of Transcession and Involution. They are a Czech, they used to be kind of like a mayhem inspired black metal band. But they are, I would call them psychedelic black metal. You know Oranci Pazuzu? Oh yeah. Oh yeah. So they're not, they're way more black metal

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Black Metal Drummer. There's even times where I'm like, this kind of sounds like Porcupine Tree with blast beats. Yeah, we love them. Well, they're on WTC Productions out of Germany. They're a good black label. Orancy Pazuzu is sort of a podcast favorite. Oh, sweet. I love them. We actually got a chance to see them. Yeah, we saw them at Death Fest last year. Death Fest, yeah. Oh, God.

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I actually almost I considered going to death fest to see them yeah it was good that made that made the trip for me definitely yep uh that one uh Foscor uh Le Ireal Visions I don't know how to say that uh they are a um Catalonian band so that's uh I believe you know the uh Catalonia region of Spain uh by Portugal uh they sing all in Catalonian which is really cool uh they're kind of one of these dark metal bands they used to

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to be a black metal band. And then kind of injected a bunch of these other influences in. I guess there's a little post-black kind of in there, but I love them. They're definitely not one of those gays bands. But the vocals are amazing. I'm going to sound like a super elitist prick, aren't I? No, you're not. Well, to be honest with you, Catalonians are kind of super elitist, but I'm just joking. Oh, good. Yeah. I like to think I'm like an elitist with a

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A well-intentioned elitist. Yeah, I know a lot of people that are way worse than I am. So, Bestia Arcana, Holocaust on, insane record. Did you guys hear that? Say it again? Bestia Arcana. It sounds familiar, but... Okay, so this is, it's off Dark Descent, the Colorado label that is like putting out pretty much every good death metal record now. Yep.

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I believe it's a two-man side project from the guy Naz Alchemath from Nightbringer as well as Aklis. He's in that. I think his name's Kyle. I like to look that up on Encyclopedia Metallum, the metal archives, and I just think it's funny that his name's Kyle because he has the coolest ritualistic vocals. But he's Kyle. Anyway, so that one's cool, and it's black metal. It's got a little bit of a blackened death

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to it. It's an amazing record. Earth Electric, Volume 1, Solar. That is a kind of psychedelic, progressive, hard rock metal band from Portugal and Norway. It's Rune Erikson, who used to be in Mayhem, a female front vocalist. And they play kind of what I would like Opeth to be doing right now, but they inject a little more of the black side, so you've got a little kind of like

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Enslaved, maybe from Vertebrae, rocking. But they're really cool. Super good. I gotta stop you there just because I like, and John is, we're all like Opeth, but John would be the more resident Opeth fanatic, I think. But I can't tell you enough how many times I have, like I switched my allegiance from Opeth to Enslaved as my primary progressive. And it's funny, so just to hear you say you'd like to see them doing, you know, you'd like to see Opeth doing, and that's,

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The Way I Feel About It Too. Long story. Yeah, and here's my thing on New Opeth. I loved Heritage. I loved Pale Communion. I thought I really liked the kind of like RPI stuff they were doing on that. I don't like Sorceress. I just don't like it. It's kind of boring. I think that, what's the song? Strange Brew. My wife helped me out. Strange Brew is amazing. I don't hate it. I was kind of expecting this really

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cool, obscure, forest prog kind of thing from them and didn't get it. But yeah, so I mean, I stayed with them for a very long time. And like I said, I didn't hate it. But now I'm in the camp where Opeth's coming out with a new record. Okay. I'll, you know, I'll listen. I'm of course going to listen to it when it comes out, but I'm not like, like every time Enslaved puts out a record or Ysan puts out a record, I'm like, oh, sweet. What are they going to do next? And Opeth, now I'm like,

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Okay, well, I just hope it's not bad. What did you think of the new Enslaved? Because it was number one. I actually loved it. I liked In Times a lot, but I didn't quite like it. I didn't think it was as strong as everything else they've done since 2003. Like, literally every record they've done since then. I love every Enslaved record, period, but everything from Below the Lights On, I think, has been, like, nigh unto Masterpiece, basically. But, yeah, so, with the

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The Exception of Now Fear Bleeding on In Times, which I think is one of my favorite Enslaved songs. This one, it took me a little bit to, like, digest it, and then it, like, super clicked. And I think a lot of that had to do with probably Hindsight. Love that song. But even, you know, like, what is it? Feathers of Ale, that weird kind of song in the middle, and Axis of the Worlds, which is that, like, weird fucked up Norwegian blues, I guess. It was kind of like, what is this? And then I,

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I love it so um that I love it that was a grower it didn't it didn't blow me away um you know based on my list we're we're gonna get to it down here um but uh super solid record I love it even more every time I listen to it more uh next and I'll try to go faster so we're not here all night uh unless this is interesting it's all good uh Nightbringer Terra Domnata uh that's the one by the bestie Arcana guy uh more traditional type not traditional

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black metal but like more of a kind of uh how's ashley how do you describe that

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how do you describe the new nightbringer it's uh the sound of monks being slain inside a cathedral

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that's burning something like that yeah it's got a lot more kind of like that it you know super trem leads

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a little more norwegian soundings but uh that really really good uh then peter biargo uh animus

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That's a kind of dark ambient neoclassical dark wave kind of thing. It's the lead guy from Arcana. They're a Swedish band. If you've heard them, they're really cool. Kind of ambient stuff. And then Der Wegeiner Freiheit with Finisterre. They're one of my favorite German black metal bands. They have a lot of kind of classical influence, I think, in the chord progressions they use. Really, really like them. Halitar, No Stars on the Bridge. It was kind of a big doom year.

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There weren't tons of Doom releases, but I hadn't heard Funeral until last year. And Funeral became one of my favorite things ever. I'm actually excited you picked 2006 because that's an insane Doom year. We'll talk about that later. But yeah, so Halitar, I really liked the album. It's lower because I don't think the rest of the songs were as strong as, say, Mirrors, which was that single that they had.

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Then Enslaved, then the new Bjork, new Mute Gods. That's a project with the bassist of Stephen Wilson, Nick Beggs, as well as Marco Miniman, who is in tons of different things like The Aristocrats. He was in Necrophagist. By the way, did you see the Muhammad sighting? No. There's a picture of Muhammad Suikmaz, lead guitarist of Necrophagist,

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with the new obscure boys the younger so he exists i think he's probably working in a gas station or something

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but but he's real he still exists so anyway uh mute gods that's a good kind of porcupine tree type thing

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then the ruins of beverest uh one man german uh black metal slash death metal slash psych slash dark ambient

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slash slash slash slash slash um and then uh i put lepris down at the bottom uh i didn't like

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this one as much. But I still listen to it tons. John likes it. Yeah, I just got to state for the record that this will be the only time ever on this podcast that anyone mentions Arcana. And I actually know that because I'm a huge fan. Good. Yay. Yeah. See, we're going to be really good buddies. And you're mentioning Dark Ambient. And I know George listens to some, but there's no question that I'm

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Hands Down, it's not even remotely close. The only listener on the podcast, minus some stuff that George listens to. I think we can give you one gift that wasn't on your list, which is something I think you'd really like, which is Perihelian Shift. Do you know that? I do. I don't like his vocals. You try the new one? Yeah, I've listened to it. I got the high DR version. I like them a lot, and I'm still planning on going back. They're a band.

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where it's like on paper I really like them. I really respect what they do and they're like kind of we're in I think the same kind of movement I suppose. And so I hate to say that because I hate when people don't like my vocals you know. Well I don't hate it. It's like I'm really picky and so they are good. I just can't get into them yet. And so I'll never get you know super mad at anybody who doesn't like my vocals. Because I understand especially in like power metal you know there's tons of power metal bands that are

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Like, instrument station's great, but I don't quite like their singer. But yeah, I will, for you, I will do more perihelionship. Well, no, actually, you know, the vocals tend to be a defining kind of force in that band with people we talk to. And we all like the first record, but we all love the new one because we felt that actually vocals were actually much improved on this one. I agree. And that was my top 20, so we're done with that. Excellent. You're all free from my grass. Well, no, I was

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I was going to say, I am actually, there's things on there that I didn't know. And so I actually have some stuff to check out. Usually we're the ones telling everybody what to check out. And it's nice because I'm always looking for new stuff. So thank you. Yeah, there are a couple on there, especially Inferno, especially. Nobody knows about that. I'm not saying I'm so cool because I know Inferno, but it's like I was surprised that it hasn't gotten more traction than it did.

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There was another release on WTO. It's Shari Moth. They're kind of, I guess you'd call them ritualistic death metal from Norway. I would definitely check that out. Maybe I'll Facebook that to you so you don't forget about it. Cool. Thanks. One thing that we mentioned way back at the beginning and did not cover was the Tolkien story behind the name. Oh, great. Yeah.

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So, um, there is a chapter in the Silmarillion called of Turin Turambar, um, and has also been published in, uh, kind of complete form as the Children of Hurin. I think that came out in like 2009, 10, 11. Um, Christopher Tolkien kind of like edited it together. Anyway, it tells the story of, uh, Turin Turambar, who is this cool kind of brooding man, um, who, uh, goes on a bunch of

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of mishap adventures. Tons of bad stuff happens to him. He's got this sister who eventually gets her memory wiped, basically. They meet years later. They get married. Neither of them knows this. There's a dragon curse, basically, on them. A bunch of awful shit happens. Eventually, Turin kills the dragon, or Niniel. Her memory comes back. She realized she married his

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and was pregnant with his child. Whoops. And then decides to jump off a river chasm and kill herself. And so the location that happens in is called Cabed Nairomarth, which is like Cinder and Elvish for the leap of dreadful doom. And so Nairomarth means dreadful doom. You'll recognize Amon Amarth. Yep. Oddly enough, they took their name from Tolkien too. That's the name for Mount Doom. Yep.

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in the same language. But that Amarth is similar. So when I really first started it, it was going to be a very moody progressive black metal with some Death Doom influence type stuff. And so I picked that. Dreadful Doom sounds like a good thing for that. And being at home in the black metal aesthetic or community or whatever, I guess that's kind of what I gravitate towards.

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But didn't, you know, obviously didn't want to make a summoning worship band. Sure. Because it's not what my thing is. But so that's where the name comes from. And then from now on, all of the records are going to be Tolkien themed. This one doesn't, the Khaban Nairomarth is technically Tolkien themed. Subterranean is technically Tolkien themed. But pretty much this record turned out to be this kind of like space opera type of thing.

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But yeah, the upcoming stuff, and I don't know if you want me to talk about the new record, but it's all getting Tolkien-themed.

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That was my next question. It sounds like you're in the thick of it. When do you think that'll be done?

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I'm hard at work, so I am trying to write the sketch for the last song now, and then I'll look at the track length. I'm looking to make something around 42, 43 minutes, as opposed to a big 60. I like albums that are between 40, 45.

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They've got a lot of nice repeat playability and they don't feel as overwhelming. So I think I've got that. I've got seven songs right now. So I'm doing a little bit different this time. Normally what I'll do is I'll write a song from start to finish and almost like finish it to record quality as I go through it. So part to part to part to part. This time I'm kind of doing over broad sketches and trying to figure out the organization. So I've got that for almost all of the songs.

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I'll be finishing up this new one in a couple, hopefully like a week. Then I go back in, I write all the vocals. I'm planning on having, okay, it's going to be me. Paul is coming back on the growls. And then three ladies, one local lady. And then Kelly from Dreadnought, she said she'd like to do it. So we're still working out logistics and stuff. And then there's one other girl.

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I really admire in The Lotus Thief that I'm going to ask. She does session work, so I'm relatively hopeful that I can get her on there. And so they'll kind of—it's a concept album about another woman in the Silmarillion, Arithal. She's—I won't tell you the whole story here, but she's a really cool, really strong character who a lot of bad stuff happens to, and then she kind of, like, sacrifices herself at the end of the story.

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And thus, I think, kind of, Peace Bill 3 type, Daylight Dies type, Death Doom is going to permeate this one. I was going to make it a lot more black metal, but as I was writing it, and with the subject content, it's a lot more organic, so there's a lot less synth, even though I'm going to use a lot of kind of, like, ambience and stuff like that. But, you know, nobody's going to think synthwave on this one. I guarantee you that.

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But it's definitely more Scandinavian, heavier, more riff-based. I don't know if there's going to be a switch in who listens to me, even though I was surprised more metal people listen to me than prog people, I think, from what I've gathered, which was pleasantly surprising. I don't care who listens to me, but being in a genre where I'm singing, it's more melodic, and it's maybe not like

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the heaviest or harshest thing in the world. Even though I come from a place where I listen to all of that stuff, like the underground stuff, I've been pleased that people that enjoy that same music also enjoy my stuff, even though it's a more digestible, not poppy, but, you know, melodious type of thing. So anyway, concept record, seven songs, hopefully to have like five guests, and I want Juergen back. So I would guess I'll be working.

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writing lyrics for the next month, lyrics and vocals and everything. And then I'm going to start tracking, doing all the electronics. I'm going to spend a lot more time on it. I mean, it's I think it's still going to be out in 2018, honestly, probably around the same time, maybe October. OK. The thing with the not that I'm writing super different music necessarily, but, you know, I wrote a lot of those songs in 2013 that are on the first record.

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And I almost feel like this kind of Yari main paw thing where I've got like tons of music that I'm sitting on or like I'm constantly having to deal with stuff that I wrote in 2013. I'm not ashamed of it or anything. I love it. It's just I I'm excited to do new stuff. Yeah, because that took I had been working on it for a long time, really wanted to get it out. And now I'm excited to where I can like release a new piece of music that I wrote in the span of three or four months. So I'm really stoked.

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I haven't really done much label pushing, but it might be nice to get at least some label help, especially for overseas distribution, as well as physical copies and stuff, because I can only afford so much on my own. But I've been really pleased with how far the release has gone on this one just by myself, because my wife and I do all the design, all the videos, everything. I mixed it. The only outside person that did pretty much

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anything on it besides guest spots is David Castillo mastered it. But it's been a fun, stressful, wild ride. Awesome. Doing it by myself. Yeah. So. Okay. So here's my non-music question. Cool. I read that you like Star Trek. And what I want to know is, do you like Star Wars as well? Are you by Psy? I am by Psy. I also like Battlestar Galactica. Woohoo! Maybe, you know.

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What would that? Pansai? Tri-Sai. Like, you know, Star Trek is this. Which version of Battlestar Galactica for some of us who were there for the original and the new one? I appreciate the old one, but haven't delved into it much. So, sadly, I will not bond with you on this one. No, no, no. Don't waste your time. The new one blows it way out of the water. It's really good. These guys are all Star Wars fans. And I am, of course, a Star Wars fan as well. But I'm also a

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Yeah, I love them for different reasons. It's like different genres of metal. Sometimes I'm in a death metal mood, sometimes I'm in a funeral doom mood. But my first love was Star Wars, for sure. I used to be, my best friend and I growing up would spend all of our classes drawing top-down battles. I spent hours and hours playing X-Wing and Dark Forces and stuff. So I grew up on that stuff.

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I was the kind of kid that knew how many ion cannon pods were on an Imperial-class Star Destroyer.

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So what's your take on Last Jedi?

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I actually kind of liked it.

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It has its problems.

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It was too long.

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I think the middle, the kind of Poe and—

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Yeah, the casino thing could have been cut out altogether.

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Yeah, they could have cut that down a lot.

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That drag drug a little bit.

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But on the whole, I really liked it. I guess I understand some people that are like, Luke Skywalker would never do that. That's not my Luke Skywalker. He doesn't give up. But I'm like, okay, cool. At least this is something interesting. And I think they could have even delved into the more gray area of the Force even more. Because they touched on these themes of Luke essentially says, we humans are not meant to control the Force.

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We're just it's lucky that we can even do anything with it and and I think human nature is perhaps such that we are not ready for this gift and need to put it down and I think they didn't even hit those home as much as they could but I think I think here's here's my other take on it I I liked Force Awakens but it was lazy it was basically you know let's let's get some new story and then tack it on in on top of a new hope

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And while I think it was well done, it was a really safe move. And I think Rian Johnson did the most interesting things he could with what J.J. Abrams set up. Fair enough. I think if J.J. Abrams didn't exist, he would have done something far different. But I think given what he had to start with, he did the best he could. And I actually, the whole Snoke thing and Ray's parentage, I loved those because I hated that Snoke was a character.

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Boring, predictable thing if Rey's parents were whoever. So I liked it, not without its problems, and all the alt-right guys are really mad about it, so that makes me happy. New Star Trek's not bad, actually. You mean the rebooted movies? No, the... The TV show. Enterprise, yeah. It's getting more Star Trek as it goes along, but it's still kind of Star Trek Galactica.

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I have not watched it because

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um because of CBS

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being dicks about how they're presenting it

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it's so stupid so I'm like

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you know maybe I'll rent it sometime

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or something but I'm not I'm not

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paying extra just to see Star Trek

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oh yeah screw that they should

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they should not be rewarded yeah I'll

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either yeah

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I'll check it out at some point but

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yep all right well

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before we move on to the rest of the episode

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where can people go

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Naira Marth, you know, music and merch. Sure. So I've got, and actually I've got a sale going on. So my main thing is through the Bandcamp. So it's like kabetnairamarthatbandcamp.com. You just type in Nairamarth in Google and you'll find it. But I've got a Facebook, Instagram, Bandcamp. Can you please spell that? Oh, the whole thing? C-A-B-E-D-N-A-E-R-A-M-A-R-T-H.

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Trust me, there's a bunch of listeners right now. They're like, I'd go look that up if I understood it all. That was a good pause. Yeah. And we love Bandcamp. Yeah, so Bandcamp's there. I don't have physical copies, but I do have shirts. I think I only have like 17 left or something like that. But everything's half off through the end of January, so people can get that. And then it's on Spotify. I have individual songs on YouTube for all of the songs, as well as a full stream of the album, as well as

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a supercut of the first and last songs together. So, I mean, you know, and you can find it on all the torrent sites. It leaked early. I don't know who leaked it, but it turned out to be a good thing. I don't know. It's like one of those, it's like violating and whoever did it is kind of a dick, but at the same time, like it, it spiked visits and stuff. So I'll take any publicity I can get. So it would be nice to know how many people downloaded it though. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, at least a few hundred from one.

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site. So yeah, those Russians, those Russians and their sites, man. Yeah. Yep. So, uh, but yeah, uh, Bandcamp, uh, Spotify, um, wherever you want. And then I'll, I would like to do physical copies in the future. Um, I was thinking about maybe doing a Kickstarter, but I mean, I'm, I'm still really small and I don't know how far that stuff would go. So, uh, but my goal is to get physical copies. So we'll see what happens with the next release, but I would look for something, um, you know, fall 2018, unless I really

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I need more time on it, but I doubt it. Excellent. It's flowing pretty well. So last episode, John came up with a list of albums that we're celebrating 20 years this year, and he suggested we do one for albums celebrating 30 years, and holy shit, were there a lot of great albums coming out 30 years ago. And so I thought I would run through this list. It's extremely long, so I'm going to run through it kind of quickly, but stop me if anybody wants to talk about anything.

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And there were like a ton of albums that I even left off. But it kind of blows my mind how 30 years ago, which, you know, I was in the thick of things then myself, as were the rest of the guys on the podcast. But anyway, here we go. Anthrax, State of Euphoria. Love that album. Bathory, Blood, Fire, Death. Classic. Blind Guardian, Battalions of Fear. First album. Bolt Thrower, also their first album. In Battle, There Is No Law. Carcass, Reek of Putrefaction.

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I can't even say that.

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Coroner.

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Putrefaction.

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Thank you.

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Coroner, punishment for decadence.

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The self-titled Danzig album.

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Death, leprosy.

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Death angel, frolic through the park.

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Iron Maiden, seventh son of a seventh son.

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King Diamond, them.

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Manowar, kings of metal.

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That might come up later.

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Megadeth, so far so good, so what?

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I saw them on that tour.

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How old am I?

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At least 30. Or at least 31. Yeah, Metallica and Justice for All saw them on that tour as well. Actually, I saw Anthrax on their tour. Yeah, anyway, where are we? Okay, Nuclear Assault, Survive, Queensrack, Operation Mindcrime, saw them on the Metallica Justice tour. Riot, Thundersteel, such an amazing classic album that's not enough people listen to that.

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that album and they really should uh sanctuary refuge denied my first world ain't experience saw them on that tour slayer south of heaven sorry testament the new order violence eternal nightmare and voivid dimension hatros what a year holy crap that's a crazy yeah i mean that was the big four are all represented there in that year in that one year and that was the senior that was my

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The Summer of Heaven coming out and Them and everything. Long story short, I remember that year very well. It was also kind of a key moment in my life. I also remember Jimmy Page's solo record came out that year for whatever reason, which I really liked at the time. So I spent the summer listening to Them, South of Heaven, and Jimmy Page's solo record. Right on. George, I would even... Which is a great record if you've never heard it.

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I'd take it even further and say not only is it the big four but then it's the next level of American thrash bands with Death Angel in there you know. Testament. Yeah there was no exodus that was the one thing I was like there's no exodus that year. So yeah it was so it's pretty much a California plus anthrax thing on there wasn't it? Yeah. I think the New Order is on there when Rob Flynn used to be good. Yeah. Sorry what were you saying Gage? Oh I think the New Order is the best out of those records. I wish I had heard that instead of

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I love the injustice for all but like I didn't hear testament until later and that would

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have just blown my mind from the very first song if I had heard it when I was 12 yeah you know I have to say I was looking through this this list and I I bolded the ones that actually own and I was like what is my favorite album out of all this and it's it's a close between death leprosy and testament in order testament in order is just an unbelievable

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album. Yep. And I have to probably give the nod to death leprosy because that was like my gateway drug into death metal. And it's a perfect album. I mean, as is Testament, but man. Yep. Yeah. And I'm saying that over Slayer South of Heaven, by the way. Yeah. Will's a bit of a Slayer fanatic. All right. I had kind of switched my allegiance to death at that time to the will. And actually I had scream grit bloody gore the year it came out, you know, because I think it had a sticker on it or something.

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that said, if you like Possessed, you'll like these. And I was like, okay, I'll check it out. Yeah, I have the cassette. As much as I like South of Heaven, Death was doing more, something I liked more than South of Heaven. So I actually liked Leprosy better than that record, too. What's everybody's favorite, Death? Leprosy. Yeah. Overall, well? Yeah. Yeah. Everybody? Somebody else go first. I don't know. I mean, it's symbolic.

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Frequently Been the one I go back to. So I guess I would have to go with that. Cool. Human. Me too. That's a good choice. Believe it or not, probably a tie for me between honestly Scream Bloody Gore. That's what I was waffling on. And then as weird as this seems, I'd go all the way to the end and say Sound of Perseverance. As much as I like all the other ones. And I understand Human for the groundbreaking thing it was. And Symbolic has some of my favorite

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songs on it. But on the other hand, you just can't stick your hand in the bucket and pull out a bad one. So yeah, it's kind of a trick question. Every album is should be your favorite. So yeah, exactly. All right. Why don't we move on to the news? Grim as it is.

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Clark has killed. He died. Probably everybody in the world knows that by now. And now the original classic, I don't want to say original, the classic lineup of Motorhead is now all perished. We had a little discussion about the original lineup as opposed to the classic lineup. And Saxon just released a video for a song off their new album, which I guess they had had in the works since Lemmy passed.

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It's called They Played Rock and Roll, and it's about Motorhead, and there's a lot of Motorhead footage in the video.

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Well, I'll just say, let me just throw it in. This one was kind of tough on me, or all of us. I mean, it wasn't anything special to me, but I don't know, man. As much as it was hard when Lemmy went and everything, this is the last one, and those first five records are essential to me. They're such good records, and I love them all, even Iron Fist, which they hated. So I've been listening to a lot of Motorhead since,

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It's as fast as he went. You can hear him sing, too. There's a song on now. I'm trying to remember which song it is. I'll look it up. But it's a song like on Overkill or somewhere. And he actually sings the lyrics. He sings the lead vocal. Yeah, he's a pretty good singer, too. Yeah. Also, Dave Holland, the former drummer from Judas Priest, he also died. I don't know. They've been saying good things about him, but, you know, he was sort of...

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And did a very sour note, to put it mildly. Actually, what was the sour note, John? I didn't know why he left or how he left. Well, no, I mean, they switched drummers, but right after that, I don't know how many years after that he was accused of. Oh, yeah, that was only a few years ago, believe it or not, five or ten years ago at the most. He served time, as far as I know. Well, it was some kid he was teaching drums to, and he had some sort of impediment. I don't remember if it was mental or physical. Right, but I think Dave

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and served time for it though didn't he he did he probably did because that kind of rings a bell though he was out when he died um right i thought it was interesting that both priest and kk downing both made statements and they were and they both were sort of like look maybe some weird stuff happened just so you know though the day we knew was he was there at an important time so it was pretty they were pretty okay statements without touching the hard stuff you know but he's on he's on arguably their most successful records yep not

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I don't know if Will can talk anymore about this next one but I saw

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something that said that the Baltimore police have made an arrest of the first suspect in the murder of

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Reverend Jim Forrester do you have you heard anything more about that Will? No I mean just same thing you probably heard just that they they got the one one of the people there's two people they they have on camera and they got one of them and I'm not even sure which one it is that they got

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on the camera. But, yeah, Reverend Jim Forrester, who was the bass player in Foghound, Serpent's Secretcy. So he was killed. I'll repeat it all over again. But he was just, he was a tattoo artist up in Baltimore in Fells Point. And he's just standing outside his tattoo shop, talking on the phone to his wife. And some fucking punk just came up and, or two punks, whatever, just came up and shot him right in the chest.

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He died talking to his wife on the phone. So there's a huge shout out to Oliver Ailes up in Baltimore. All of our friends, Steve Jones, is just going above and beyond to raise money for his family, for his costs. So yeah. But if you go on Bandcamp and you look up

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F-O-G-H-O-U-N-D. And there's a song on there called Keep On Shoveling, which is about Jim's previous battles with health issues before he was killed. It's Name Your Own Price. Pay 50 bucks for a fucking song. It's a great song. And money goes to his family. Yeah, it's hard. It's a tough subject for me because it's just...

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I fucking hate Baltimore. Baltimore should be nuked. Yeah. If North Korea has their ballistic missiles and they can reach the United States, just hit Baltimore. But not on MDF weekend, please. Yeah. Yeah. Not on MDF. All right. In more wonderful news, Slayer have announced their farewell tour, and I say that sarcastically. Did Slayer start something here? Because it's like 14.

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other bands announced their final fair world tours right after that. They're like, fuck it. Slayer's quitting. There's no point in the rest of us doing anything. Say what you will, but I was a devotee up through Raining Blood, basically, and then still liked them after, but those, I mean, I was hyper-focused on them for a few years, you know, in the early 80s, but I still like having them around, and I didn't really realize that this was going to kind of depress me until they announced it. Now I'm just sort of like, I might

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to take them for granted. You know what I mean? A little bit. I was at Olive Garden the other night. I was picking up a takeout order. The fuck were you doing at Olive Garden? Hey, man, my wife wanted Olive Garden. All the salad and breadsticks you can eat, well. Yeah, except in takeout, it's not all you can eat. They just give you a set amount. But anyway, I'm sitting there at the takeout window there waiting for somebody to come and give me my food. And I'm wearing my, I'm not wearing it now, my Testament hoodie. And so many people talk to me about, while I'm wearing

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this thing. I get so much mileage out of it.

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And I'm sitting there and this woman, probably late 30s, early 40s, who worked there, just comes up on the counter and puts her hands down and she's like, so you going to see Slayer?

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And I'm like, what?

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And she's like, you're going to go see Slayer?

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They're retiring.

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I was like, yeah, yeah, blah, blah, blah.

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And just had this random conversation with a stranger about Slayer.

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It was pretty cool.

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Last night I bought tickets, but it was weird because I think the minimum amount of tickets you could buy was two. So I have two pit tickets. Was it a first sale or something? No, I don't know what it was. You had to buy two, so I have two pit tickets. Hey, Will, did I ever tell you how much I like you? Visit my glory hole in a costume more often. Get yourself a ticket, buddy.

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Don't feel to chime in, man. Your voice is most welcome on any of these news stories or anything, so knock yourself out. Cool. Yeah. I was going to make a soft-of-heaven joke about the glory hole, but... That's good. I like that. Satiricon has also announced a final U.S. tour. Now, this doesn't mean that they're stopping. They just said that they don't think they're going to be making any more trips over the ocean to the United States. Luckily, I have tickets to see them at MDF this year,

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So that'll be good because I saw them once before, but they played an abbreviated set due to technical difficulties. And so I'm happy that I'll get to see them one more time while they're here. By the way, I looked up Maryland Death Fest and it looks like the best day to go is Thursday, Friday. I'm going Thursday, Saturday. What's on Saturday? Satyricon, Dodd-Heimsgaard. I forget who else. Those are the two main ones.

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I'm going for. Yeah. And Thursday, of course, because Chemist is going to be there. We love Chemist. Hello. Friday is Bloodbath. I've seen Bloodbath. They were at MDF just a couple years ago. I didn't see them. I've never seen them. You suck. Well, I do suck. In the glory hole. In Anacostia. Yeah. Well, I had to pick the two that were most important. If you guys are going on Friday, and if I can make it, I will try to go then as well.

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I'm planning on it because Blood Incantation is also playing. Yeah. What's that, Will? Is Blood Incantation Friday? Yes. Yeah. Yeah, I'm looking at those. No. They're really good. Yeah, they came here. And then they've got that new band, Spectral Voice. Yeah. I think about half of them are in that one. I wanted to like that more than I did, but I really like it. I wasn't keen on the production.

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The Spectral Voice album. Yeah, that's one problem with all the Dark Descent stuff is it kind of sounds like it's in a cave. Yeah. And not necessarily in a good way. Holocaust Dawn, by the way, the Bestia Arcana one has amazing production. So good to know. Premium Man and Spectral Voice are going to play Atlas the day after Decibel Metal Beer Fest. Cool. By the way.

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Chemist is recording, right? Yep. Yep. They'll have something out in the spring or early summer, like June, maybe. The Bulletin of Atomic Scientists has set the doomsday clock to two minutes to midnight. Cue the Iron Maiden. Two minutes. Yeah, it's like cool and metal, but then you think about what that actually means and you're like, oh, shit, that sucks. So, yeah. Thanks.

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It means fucking nothing. Yeah, well. Yeah, I'll buy that. That's a reasonable assessment. Yeah. So Cynic released a new song called Humanoid, and I know John's listened to it. Yeah, I actually think it's pretty good. I like it. Me too. They got a new drummer in the band now, and it's... They used the line, well, we've... He's energized the band, and okay, whatever. I mean...

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And Reinhart was a pretty good drummer too. Basically what you're saying is there's harmony in the band now. Nobody's fighting with each other. And Sean Malone's still with them. So I'm jazzed for a new album. I'm looking forward to it. Me too. I didn't think they were going to go heavy again. It's not the heaviest thing in the world, but I thought they were going to go into just kind of like soft psych stuff. No, but it definitely has a feel of the first two albums to the musical side of them, not the vocals, which I'm fine with them.

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doing the death vocals or the voice recorders, as long as they play something like the early stuff. I like the last album, too, but I thought it was decent. It's a good, nice surprise for this year. Me too. Next, we have a bunch of upcoming releases to talk about. Necrophobic is getting set to release their eighth album called Mark of the Necrogram. I did spell that wrong. Anyway, it's coming out on February 23rd. They released the title track.

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And I dig it. Then we've got the new Between the Burying Me album coming out. It's called, let's see, the song's called Condemned to the Gallows. The new album's called Automata. And it's a two-part album with the first part releasing on March 9th. You know, when their last album came out, Coma Ecliptic? Yep. I loved it as soon as it came out. I was like, wow! But I got tired of it real fast.

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It just

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I don't know

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It was a little too sing-songy for me

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I guess after a while

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But

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I like the new song

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So we'll see where this goes

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Yeah, it sounds like they're gonna do

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It seems like it's darker

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On the whole

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I know the guys

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Paul's a good buddy of mine

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So we eat when he comes out

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They actually used to live

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Kind of in your area

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But over in Nova

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Okay

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But

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Yeah, it seems like

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It's gonna be a cool record

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I was surprised

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I didn't really know what was going to come out. And I really liked the last one, too. It had like a little bit of a Voivod flavor to some of the songs. And that really like I was like, oh, fuck, yes. But there was also like this My Chemical Romance kind of pop punky thing to the vocals that was OK at first because I actually liked a little bit of My Chemical Romance like back in the day. But it just kind of got old the more I listened to it.

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shaking his head over here.

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So, yeah, it just sort of turned me off after about, you know, a few too many listens.

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But on the whole, I like what they do.

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And even the stuff before that was good.

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But so I don't know.

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We'll see.

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Yep.

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Next.

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This one surprised me because they just put on the whole one more time.

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On your whole.

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Oh, boy.

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This next one surprised me because they just put out an album last year. Memoriam is releasing their second album, The Silent Vigil, on March 23rd. And I am over the moon about... That is a surprise, dude. It is. It's like, wait, what? But hey, I mean, you know, given how infrequent Boltthruer was with releases, to have two Memoriam albums in two years is quite shocking. You know, that's the way it used to be.

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to release an album.

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I'm talking about the 70s and 80s every year.

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Yeah, it used to be, but it's not used to be anymore.

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Four years.

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Metallica fucked it up for everybody.

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They're like, ah, we're going to wait four years to release an album.

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And then that became the norm.

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I'm going to go ahead and say that maybe Tool might be responsible for the modern day band.

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Let's hope not.

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One album the last 16 years.

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Think about that.

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It's like Chinese democracy levels of insanity.

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Primordial is getting ready to release a new album, Exile Amongst the Ruins, on March 30th. They have a new song called Stolen Years available to stream. John and I were sort of, I don't know, arguing is too strong a word. It was just banter. Bantering about this. I didn't really like it. I'm not a fan of it either, George. I never said that to you. It's okay.

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But I do like Primordial. What I read was that they did this on purpose. They wanted to take a risk with the song that they chose to release first and that they are assuring us that there are epics on the album. So we'll see. It's just kind of slow and I don't know. I mean, no, it's not a bad song. It's just not the song you expect to hear. That's the opening track for a new album. Exactly. I agree. Metallica's 598 EP is getting the re-release treat.

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on April 13th. I don't know that it's getting quite the extensive packaging as the last few did. No. No? No, it's not. I didn't say anything about that, but... No, it's just pretty straight up. I bet it doesn't cost $598 when it comes out. Yeah, I was going to say, what's the price of it? They're going to have to change the name of that one. Yeah, the $155.98 EP. And another one that I sort of was on the radar, but didn't,

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I recently changed how I say this. I used to say Demi Borgir. Now I say Demi Borgir because that seems to be what everybody else calls him. You can just say who cares. Demi Borgir. Demi Borgir. Well done, Will. Anyway, they're getting ready to release their new album, Aeonian, on May 4th. No idea what that's going to sound like. I mean, I can speculate based on their last album, but it's been a while.

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So maybe it'll be a little different. At the Gates is going to release a new album called To Drink From The Night Itself on May 18th. I'm stoked about that one. Yeah. But I'm, it's a bit, I'm worried because, you know, Jonas is out now. Jonas Bueller. So that is kind of scary. Or no, Jonas is in. What's his bucket? Anders. Anders is.

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And I think he was like the main songwriter. So we'll see the guy from God Macabre is the other guitarist now. That would normally be extremely exciting to me. But the lurking fear that he and Thomas Lindbergh did. I didn't like it very much. I was looking forward to it. And it just I didn't it didn't do anything for me. I don't think it's bad. But that was kind of lackluster. So we'll see. But I I'm really stoked. I liked the last at the Gates record a lot. So.

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They've always been one of my favorites, but we'll see. Anders did a really cool solo record with Dick Lovren on bass from Meshuggah. It's like a kind of goblin love letter, but it's really atmospheric. It's hard to find, but I would highly recommend that one. Cool. Our last news item is Obscure are also getting ready to release a new album sometime in the summer. It's going to be called Deluvium. I'm kind of curious what this is going to sound like because they've got

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some new people, I believe, in the band. I know Hans isn't in the band anymore. So I guess we'll see what that sounds like. Should be cool. Did you guys like Akro Asis? Was that the last one? Yeah. I like the earlier stuff better. Yeah. I added a news item. I didn't tell you guys about it. All right. What is it? Sacred Reich.

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Oh yeah.

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So I'm a metal blade and they're working on a new album.

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With a new drummer.

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I'm,

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I'm horned up for that.

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Yeah.

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One of the guys was at Valken doing a spoken word thing last year.

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I was like,

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Hey,

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what's that guy talking?

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Oh,

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it was a guy from sacred reg.

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Yeah.

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Cool.

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All right.

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Let's move on to new releases.

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The first one I haven't been able to give a proper listen to yet because it just came out yesterday. But I'm a fan of their previous works. And this is the third album from a Swedish doom band called Anguish. And the album I cannot pronounce. So allow me to butcher it. Magna Estviss... S-I-U-G-N-A-H. However the hell you say that. I tried looking it up. I thought maybe it was Latin or something based on the word.

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on the first half of that, but it's not. So anyway, they're pretty cool. It's Doom in a more deathy Doom sort of way, but not like Death Doom like Hooded Menace or any other. It's a little more raw. Next up, we have the first album from Howling Sycamore, self-titled. This is an interesting band. Jason McMaster from Dangerous Toys is definitely not sporting a woody on this one.

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But Hans Grossman, formerly of Obscura and currently of Alkaloid, among other things. And the dude from, I can't pronounce it, Ethel Duath? Ethel Duath. Another Lord of the Rings thing, by the way. There you go. So they put together this sort of super group, and it's a little avant-garde-y, but it's not bad. I kind of dig it. I've only given it like one. I can't do the vocals.

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Master Fan. No, no. Same with the new Watchtower. The new Watchtower dude. I can't take it. I'm sorry. I was excited to see about Howling Sycamore. I'm going to try again. Because, I mean, the music's really, really cool. It is. It was very interesting. Yeah. And then, of course, we have the new Hooded Menace, Oswarium Silhouettes Unhollowed, their fifth album. But it's like a whole new band, kind of. The guitar player is not singing.

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They have a singer and they have a new drummer. And I think it's a good thing. You know, changing singers is sometimes something that worries me. But I think they've got a much fuller sound this time around. And I like the earlier stuff, but I'm definitely digging this one. I've listened to it like five times. It's like all I've been listening to. Yeah. John, you checked it out too, right? Yeah, I thought it was good.

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It was pretty good. I mean, I gave it one spin. Just one spin. Yeah, I've listened to it a little bit. I pre-ordered it on iTunes and yeah, I mean, I'm a big Hooded Menace fan, so I mean, I like it a lot. Excellent. I haven't heard it yet because I'm just now getting back into the box after being off my computer for a few days. Well, you have to get back with us on that one. So you've been just pleasuring yourself on the computer and now you're

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Getting back into the real box. The box is where we keep our promos. Yeah. Yeah. It's literally like box.com. It's like online storage. Right. Right. You don't need to clarify. Well, we talk about it a lot and I thought it might, you know, people might wonder. So let them wonder. That's the best part. Jay's pounded the box. Finally.

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After so much time of beating on his computer,

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he has to go into the shop,

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he's finally back into the box.

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Moving on.

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You know, I had a virus.

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Yeah.

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From pounding the box?

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Yeah.

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You only get AIDS once, right?

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I noticed the pestilence isn't on the list, George.

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Oh, yeah.

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Yeah, I didn't think it was coming out this week.

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When I looked it up on Encyclopedia Metallum, it said it was coming out in March. So I left it off. But then I saw it on iTunes earlier tonight. I was like, what the fuck? They decided to release it because they're doing a tour. Their first tour date was like this week. So they're like, I guess we'll probably release it so we can play songs. Might as well promote something. I didn't go through the whole thing yet, but it sounds really cool. I like it. Like a return to form. Some of the songs,

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I'm into it. I'm stoked.

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And let's see. I don't know how to say this one either. Hadion? H-A-D-E-O-N.

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Probably Greek.

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But anyway, yeah, it's good.

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What's next? Orphaned Land, Unsung Prophets and Dead Messiahs.

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It's the sixth album from this Israeli prog metal band. And I've given them passing listens in the past. But I've given this one a decent listen. And I dig it. Yeah, I like this one. I'm kind of surprised I like this one. Yeah, it's not really your norm. No, it's not. But I found myself very interested in it. It'll also be on George's list because anything with a cover that looks just kind of like this.

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What was the one last year, George? Nadinger? Yeah, it's got a Nadinger feel to it. Oh yeah, those two have a similar... What'd you call me? You son of a bitch. My mother was a saint. You know, Will, if you like this Orphan Land, you may want to check out Mabool from X number eight years back. That's actually a pretty good album from them too. Just send it to me and I'll check it out. That's their classic one, right? Yeah.

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They're one of the ones I'm supposed to like and haven't dug into a lot yet. Better be better than My Wrath. We've all got those. That was an amazing album. Yeah, they're good. Next new release. This is one that John brought to my attention about a week ago. Mike LaPone's Silent Assassins. And then their second album, Pawn and Prophecy, which for a second there I had to look at that. I was like, that Pawn of Prophecy? We're talking like David Eddings here? But no.

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And it's like power metal, sort of. It's not like melodic like a power metal. It's more like a Nevermore album or something. A heavier kind of power metal. A little iced earth in terms of the riffing a little bit. Not much, but it's more in that style of power metal. I thought it was pretty good. I like Symphony X and I like Mike LaPone's bass playing. It's kind of nice to see a bass player put out

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an album that features him, but he doesn't overpower the album at all. And it's got some nice stuff on it. Mike Romeo is on it, too. The guitarist from Symphony X. And then Alex, I can never pronounce his last name, singer from Watchtower from their last two albums is on it, too. So the one that Gage doesn't like. The one that Gage doesn't like, which is why Gage is very silent over here. Well, I'm a Watchtower fan and Control and Resistance is one of my favorite, you know,

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80s prog metal albums. So I was kind of happy to see that at least Watchtower is, some of them are still actively pursuing music because they're another band that's just taken forever to put on an album. Next is the new Monolith album, Nebula Septim. It's their seventh album. They're a French Death Doom band, although they started off a little more funeral than Death Doom. Their first four albums, I think. They were all just like,

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One, two, et cetera. Yeah. I wasn't a big fan of their last album, but this one is not bad. I've given a couple of listens. I heard it's kind of a switch up in style. I mean, because I didn't really like the last album, I don't recall what it sounded like, so I'm not sure how different it is from the last one, but it's got to be somewhat different because I didn't like the last one first listen. I was like, nope.

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And this one first listened, I was like, oh, no, no, no. So I'd have to go back and listen to some of the older stuff again to elaborate on that. Next, Rebellion, A Tragedy in Steel Part 2, Shakespeare's King Lear. This is basically an offshoot band from Gravedigger. A couple of guys from Gravedigger started this band a while back, and their first album was about Macbeth. And then they did a bunch of albums, Viking-themed albums, and now they're back.

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to Shakespeare again. The vocals are very similar to Gravedigger and, you know, that style of classic true slash power metal. It's not bad. I've only gotten about three quarters of the way through the album, but I've liked what I've heard so far. Second to last new release, we've got the new Revolting Monolith of Madness, sixth album from the Swedish Death Doom band featuring Revolting Raga.

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That dude is like the Swedish death metal dude on like, you know, 50 different albums. Will, have you listened to this at all? I have not yet. Well, I think this is... It sounds like it will be in my wear... Sorry, my wheelhouse. I think so. And the last new release, the new Tribulation, Down Below, fourth album of Swedish prog death. I was less than enthused by the first two songs.

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It came out, however, taken in context of the whole album, the production is so good on this album, and the music is really cool. I gave her, you know, take or leave the vocals, but I'm definitely going to be good on the last one, too. I'm definitely going to dig back into it some more. I got through it once since it came out yesterday. Yeah. And so I'm a little undecided. It's definitely better than I thought it would be. Yeah. So.

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I'll give him some more time. There's a lot of hype because

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Decibel, one of the reviewers

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from Decibel gave this a perfect 10.

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That's a little excessive.

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Yeah, I've never seen Decibel do that before

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and I've heard one of the songs

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and I was sort of like, nah, really?

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Well, they're kind of sweethearts

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down there. They were on the last Decibel

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tour, presumably because they

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handpicked them, so they're clearly

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a staff favorite.

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I haven't heard it yet, but I'll listen to it.

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I like the last one. I know George did too.

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A lot.

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I didn't listen to the new one yet. I haven't listened to the new one yet, but I love Children of the Night. Yeah, and I actually had the good fortune to see them on that decibel tour, and they're great. I thought they were really good. I was really glad to see them that year because that's such a great record they made. Formulas of Death is really good, too. What's it called? Formulas of Death. It's more death metal. That's probably my favorite one. Yep. All right.

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Let's do skull crushers. This time it is my turn to field questions from the guys about Manowar. Nice. Gage, are you in any way, shape, or form a listener of Manowar? I like Manowar. I would need other people here that would talk about Manowar forever. I was a Rhapsody guy. Fair enough. I saw them together. Yeah, I did too in Cleveland. I actually,

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We stood with some guys in line that drove 20 hours

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to see them because

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Cleveland was the closest

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it was the most furthest west

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date and so that was a

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cool show so you had people like driving

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anywhere from like 10 to 20 hours

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to see them all

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yeah they played in Baltimore

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the nerdy rhapsody people but anyway I

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like Manowar and appreciate them but I

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am going to be completely useless on

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trivia

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all right well I probably will be too so

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All right, guys, hit me. I'll go first since I'm the least knowing of Manowar of anyone here. Hopefully I'm the most. I just got a few here, George. Hopefully they're softballs that get you warmed up. So while Manowar may not have had, I'm reading this off of where I got this from, so you can correct this if it's wrong. They weren't a super mainstream success, but they definitely have a serious cult following. I agree with that much.

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What are you guys called? You dedicated fans. What are your names? As Manowar fans. Army of Immortals. That's one of Immortals, yeah. There's one more. Manowar Warriors. Oh, sorry. I'm sorry, George. It's yours. That might be a thing. Sorry about that. Now that you've said it, I know that, but that's not what I would have guessed. I'm glad, because I fell asleep at the wheel there. That won't happen again. It's all right. I've done it, too. Jay, your next question is... You got him. Okay, so it's a nice little... Can I just say, I deserve that.

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There's a famous person, actor, writer, director, whatever, who's no longer with us. I know you know this, George, but I'm going to throw this softball to you. He provided narration on two tracks. Give me the name of the person in the tracks. Orson Welles and Dark Avenger and Defender. And as a bonus, he also did the intro track.

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that they play before they start every show. There's a bunch of classical music. And then he comes on and says, ladies and gentlemen, from the United States of America, all hail Manowar. That's awesome. I love the fact that Orson Welles was involved with them. All right, one last one. One of the band members has a connection to Black Sabbath in the 70s. Do you know who that is? Connection like, what kind of connection? Well, if I tell you this.

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It's going to give it away. You could take away one keyword there, John. You don't have to use... Okay, he may have worked with them in a tech position at some point. It was essentially a roadie for the band. Yeah. I'm going to guess that that was Joey. Correct. Okay, and what else do you want? Well, it's... Name a band. Black Sabbath.

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Yeah, he was their bass tech in the 70s. Yeah, because the mythology is, if you listen to the song, how does it go? Something, something, now I can't even remember it. I had it. But in the backstage room, we heard the sound and we all knew that we had to do blah, blah, blah. Basically the story about how they met in England. Right. Those are my softball man war questions for not knowing a damn

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thing about the band other than there's a song or some some intro to some song where some guy gets caught by his girlfriend's father when he's in her bedroom but she's only 16. good man yeah she wanted it man i remember that part all right who's up next uh i got i got a couple questions for you uh john took one of them god damn it john so uh man of war is in the guinness book of world

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for what? Loudest band. Okay. Okay. Or loudest concert, I guess. Oh, yeah. One of those. Loudest performance. Fair enough. And there's another one. You mean another record? Another, yeah, Guinness Book of World Record. Most loincloths worn in a, I don't know.

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No, that's the only one I know about. They also had the longest heavy metal concert. They played for five hours and one minute in Bulgaria. Oh, yeah. I think I remember hearing something about that. Wow. That was all a face solo by Joey DeMaio. Yeah. All right. You ready for some lyrics? I'll give it a shot. All right. You ready? I'm going to read you some lyrics. You name the song, the album, and the song.

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the year if you know it. I don't know years anymore. I used to. Alright. Born to live forever more. The right to conquer every shore. Hold your ground and give no more. Hail to England. From Hail to England. Really? Wait, wait, wait. Give me those again. Born to live forever more. The right to conquer every shore. Oh, it's Manowar.

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It's Manowar. The Song Manowar. What album? Year? That would be Battle Hymns. Battle Hymns, rather. Do you know the year? 82? Yep. Perfect. So this next one is a little slightly disturbing. Hashtag Me Too. Pleasure Slave. I don't even have to read you any lyrics.

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Read them anyway, since you already got the answer. Well done, George. So the song Pleasure Slave off of Kings of Metal 1988. Here are the lyrics. Here are part of the lyrics for this song. Before her surrender, she had no life. She's now a slave, not a wife. Her only sorrow is for women who live with lies. She's taken off her disguise.

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Woman, be my slave. Begging to be fed. Your body belongs to me. Yeah. Shocking that none of them are married. Yeah. You know, I originally got that album on cassette and that was not included on the cassette version. It wasn't until years later when I got the CD that I first heard that, Danny. But yeah.

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There can only be one Manowar song like that, thankfully. Yeah. So anyway, well done, George. That's all my questions. All right. Well, I so enjoyed Will doing lyrics last time that you're getting all lyrics from me. And I got a couple that I'm going to lob at you, but there's some of them that might be a little bit more challenging. And to be fair, I purposely didn't choose a few that could have gone in about 12 different songs. But yeah, they do tend to repeat things. Some of them. Yeah. So this one, this one, I think, is the one I'm going to

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I'm going to lob in there, which is when you are old enough to read these words, their meaning will unfold. Okay, go ahead. Defender. All right. See, I was going to fold in the Orson Welles thing, though, and it may be an answer. Yeah, okay. Another totally, this is going to be the last easy one. The other two are a little more difficult. Three sons have I, and they ride by my side. I covered this one. That's blood of my enemies. Oh, that's right. You sent me that up. It was bad, but you know. Okay.

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Okay, I think this will be a little bit different. Behold the kingdom of the kings, books of spells and magic rings. You got it. You're there. Yeah, I know the song. I'm just books of spells and magic rings. I thought this would be a little harder. I think I like this record a little bit more than you do. So I purposely stuck you with two songs from this. He screams a lot.

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Glory Ride. Last song, Side One. I don't do sides anymore. I'm guessing Gates of Valhalla? Yeah, you got it. Well done. And then finally this one. Atop the Mountain, Where the River of Steel Flows. Secret of Steel. There you go. Nailed it.

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I wasn't sure if the Ink to Glory ride was in your store. Nerd alert! I love me my Manowar. I mean, you know, I was doing my homework this past week, listening to all the Manowar albums again. And I was reminded of how much this band actually means to me. I don't really listen to them all that much anymore. But when I was a high school lad, and all full of, you know, piss and vinegar, and

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and testosterone. These albums were gospel. I did not. But I do have a sword around here somewhere. George, did you get your loincloth signed by the man? No. Okay. Sir, could you take that off? Yeah, exactly, Jay. And, you know, the last quote-unquote project that I did was called Sons of Destiny.

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with Drunk Matt. And I took that. You had like a band with Drunk Matt? Yeah. Well, he did some vocals for me. Because as you know, I can't sing. And I took that from Secret of Steel. There's the line, Sons of Destiny. I can't remember now. Sons of Destiny, the something sword shall wield. Air wisdom's voice. Yeah. And I was reminded. I was like, oh, shit. Yeah.

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That's where I got that. Anyway. I was kind of hoping somebody was going to call me out and go, hey, what's the warrior's prayer? It's 30 years later. God's of war, I call you. My sword is by my side. I seek a life of honor, free from all false pride. I crack the whip of the bold, mighty hail. Cover me with death if I should ever fail. Glory, majesty, unity. Hail, hail, hail. Shit's all in there, man. 30 years of useless knowledge. Anyway.

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Why don't we? You did great. I did better than I expected to. I think you hit it out of the park, to be honest with you. Well, thank you. Let's move on to our top five favorite albums from 2006.

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All right. So what we normally do is we start at five, work our way down to one. We'll start with Gage. He'll give us number five. Then we go to John, to Will, to Jay, to me. And then we go back to Gage again for number four and we circle down from there. Okay, cool. So I was having trouble with number five. Hold on a second.

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I'm scrolling. Here we go. Um, can I cheat? I can't cheat, can I? You can cheat. There's no rules. No, we always do honorable mentions if that's what you're worried about. Oh, okay. Well, so my five is a hard decision between funeral from these wounds and summoning Oathbound. Okay. Oh, so you want to call it a tie. A tie, yeah. Yeah, they were really close. The other ones are definitely

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on there, but I was having trouble between those two. Funeral, I didn't really get into until this past year or so. And total just incredible. Kind of the thing where you like, if you listen to like Draconian or Daylight Dies or anything later, you're like, oh, wait, somebody did this in forever ago. Even though, of course, From These Wounds is 2006. But incredible record. Summoning Oathbound is amazing.

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Yeah, there you go.

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Right on.

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All right.

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John.

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So my number five, I had a real tough time picking.

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The first four I had no problems, but there's so many good albums in 2006 that I struggled with this one.

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But I settled on this, and it shouldn't be any surprise because I'm a disciple of this guy.

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It's not his easiest album to listen to.

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It's not his best album to listen to.

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But nevertheless, I still think it's a good album.

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And that's Devin Townsend's Sincastria. Or Sincastra. I had a few others that were in place in five, but I'll mention in my honorable mentions at the end. But he won out on that spot. Was he out of Strapping Young Lad at that point? No. No, he actually released New Black in Strapping. Same year. And this was kind of the watershed year for him, because I think he got his life together after this. He had so much going on, and he decided, I want to take some time off.

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just produce and then he kind of cleaned up and now he's made like 47 albums since then it's been awesome i just last week finished reading his book only half there cool whoa boy yeah that was a read it's quite the ride yeah yeah i mean i was like deathly ill with the flu at the time and so i'm like delirious reading this devin townsend like stream of consciousness going i can't handle this it was it was tough but boy

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It was interesting. Hey, George, quick question. Did you get tested for the flu? No. So you don't know what strain you had? No. All right. I'm just assuming it was flu. It's probably whatever you had, fucker. Well, I got it for my daughter, and she had type A. I had type A. My son had type A. My wife had type A. I'm guessing that's what I had. You're like the only person that I left the house for in that time period.

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Anywho. Anyway, my number five. Suffocation, self-titled. Nice. The great song, Bind, Torture, Kill, is on that album. That sounds like a new beer for you, Will. Sounds like a Cannibal Corpse song. It does sound like a Cannibal Corpse song. Suffocation's not that far off. No. Jay. You know, I'm not as big a fan of these guys as I am.

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as everybody else is. I do like them a lot. I just don't like the whole, whole catalog. But this is my favorite record by them. And it's a good record. Amon Amarth with Odin on their side came out that year. Yep. Good record. So be prepared to go number five. Sure. Oh, George, don't even please. No, not that one, dude. Not that one. You're not talking about. I'm talking about Esan, the adversary. Oh, no, that's OK.

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I considered it. It was one of my honorable mentions. I thought I was going with that, too. I was like, do not hurt my feelings like that. We're on the same page there. All right. Back to gauge number four. Gage number four. He saw him the adversary. Slightly higher. Somebody got it. It's I love it. It's a really interesting bridge between the late emperor kind of Prometheus style and then what he would go on to do later.

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You know, there's still some kind of, maybe I shouldn't have done those King Diamond vocals on it. But I think some of the... A little bit. I hear you. Yeah, yeah. I like that record, though. It's a good record. So I actually just got all of the reissue vinyl in the mail. So we've been working our way through the old records and just listened to the remaster of The Adversary. And kind of my wife and I sat down and kind of looked at the lyrics and all that type of stuff.

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They're super cool. It's got some of my favorite parts on it. Citizens, an awesome song. Will You Love Me Now is great. And then all the Latin ones. I think it's a super cool record. Ace Gear Mickelson did the drums. Super cool. So yeah, it's a nice mix between the kind of late Emperor black metal and what Isan does now. Huge record for me personally.

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from him. But yeah, huge.

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Which, by the way, we all loved

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Darkness last year. It was, everybody on

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this podcast was into that record, man. Me too.

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It took me a little, like, some of the

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kind of 80s cock rock

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and late 70s stuff was a little weird.

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Yeah. Until I Too Dissolve

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was weird, the, like, rat

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riff at the beginning.

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And then even Mass Darkness was a little

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strange. But I grew to

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really love it.

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Celestial Violence is like an insane, and I'm a huge Leprous fan, so loved that one, but really loved the kind of, my wife and I call it DJ Isan, Frail, and the other one where he's like doing kind of like weird spoken word black metal hip hop. No, love it. I'm really excited to see what he does next. Looks like he's done recording and has already filmed a video, so I'm over here just... Oh, that's right, yeah. I did hear that.

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I saw him with Emperor last year at Vaken. It was amazing. Amazing balls. Exactly. John, number four. So my number four is an interesting album. I think some people might like it. It's the only album I know which can be considered maybe one of the best comeback albums ever and also one of the best debut albums ever at the same time, even though it's under one moniker. And that's the album Monotheist by

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Celtic Frost. I mean, let's be honest, it's an incredible comeback album, but it's a Trypticon album. If you think about the style of music that they're playing, it easily could have been considered a great Trypticon album, but it's also a great Celtic Frost album. So hats off for writing something that could apply to two different pans at one time, which it really was the lead into Trypticon. Yeah. I remember when that came out, I was like, oh, Celtic Frost are back, huh? Wow. Jerry Orchard's

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What do we got? And then I heard it and I was like, mind blown. I was like, oh my god! Yeah. Just slightly different than the previous few releases, huh? Yeah. Well, I mean, you know, they had Nemesis and whatnot afterwards, but I just had no idea of what to expect from that and it blew my mind. Yeah. So, that's my number four. All right. I'm going to predict that no one has any of my top five. No, I have one of them, Will. I think I do, too.

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Well, that'll be good. My number four. Guarantee no one has this one. Sick of it all. Death to Tyrants. Ooh. Fucking love that album. Absolutely love it. I've been a huge Sick of it all fan since whatever, 88, when they came out with Blood. No. What the fuck is the name of that album? Blood Guts.

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I really like it. Oh, I'm sorry, man. Like 30 years ago. I know. I can't remember shit from 20 some years ago. Anyway. Sick of it all. Death to Tyrants. Excellent. Jay. The reason I don't believe we'll be completely alone in this list is my number four, which is cannibal corpse kill. All right, good. I think there's an echo in here because I just said my number four is cannibal corpse kill.

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Nice. All right. Back to Gage. Back to Gage. Catatonia, The Great Cold Distance. Huge shift for them. For me, I like early Catatonia. I don't like mid-period Catatonia. And then Jonas learned how to sing. And here we go. So, you know, they kind of obviously fell in that vein through the rest of the time. But huge album for me. I especially love all the remixes, the electronic remixes of those. Cool.

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By the way, that Sick of It All first album was Blood, Sweat, and No Tears. I just remembered it.

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Oh, right on.

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John.

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So my number three is also Catatonia, The Great Cold Distance. And to me, this was the last album I liked a lot by them. And I actually do like Mid-Catatonia. I do like Viva Emptiness. And I do like Last Fair Deal Gone Down a lot.

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I like that one.

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Those three albums together I thought were good.

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There were discouraged ones. Nothing, anything great. I do still like Brave Murder Day a lot, but I thought this was by far their heaviest record in a long time where they did not do the formulaic stuff that they're known to do a lot, unfortunately. But I do like this album, so that's my three. Okay. My number three, The Sword, Age of Winters. Ah, I remember when they were good. You want to feel bad about yourself, go listen to the new track. Oh, God.

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They don't sound like it, but the album cover, they definitely pillaged ZZ Top for that car. Honestly, I can hear some ZZ Top in that song, Danny 52. I knew they weren't getting back to the plot. What are you talking about? There's a new track out. For The Sword? Yeah. Is it just like Texas country music? It's like the last one. It's hard rock. So, hey, Jay, have you heard, are they going to be like the Oak Ridge

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Boyzzy Top. Eventually, they'll just retire. The sword will take over for them and just keep the name ZZ Top. Yes. I was going to share that, but yeah, it scooped me. Their first album was amazing. They are not what they used to be. I like their first three albums. And then I'm kind of off the ship from there. I think all of us are. Gage, are you wearing a horrendous shirt, by the way? Yep. Nice.

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I'm excited for their new stuff. They're recording. Yeah. Yeah. We're looking forward to that. We'll come out in the summer, fall. Yeah. We all like that last record a lot. We saw them at Death Fest. Death Fest, yeah. They're super good live. They'll be at the Disable Metal Beer Fest. Cool. Right on. Featuring awesome, sick, white high tops. Nice. I used to do one of those. I wonder, I think I'll probably the only one to have this one in my, John might have it, but I don't think it would be so high up his list. Well, you know what?

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We'll see. But transition to a major label, a lot of people kind of thought this record wasn't as good as the previous two, though I disagree totally. Mastodon, Blood Mountain. I knew that was going to be in there. I loved it, yeah. A band whose name it almost breaks my heart to say, like, to even say that now and talk about Mastodon and think about what they're doing now, which I just don't like very much. They're prepping for the Grammys tomorrow. I was crazy for Blood Mountain when it came out. I loved it. I agree with everything Jay said.

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Are you ever seen My Cousin Vinny? Yeah. Everything that guy said is bullshit. In this case, Jay's 100% right. My number three, Aman Amarth with Odin on our side. Sweet. Cool. My number three is Enslaved Rune. You're number two, rather. My number two. Sorry. My number two. Yes. I was like, wait, did I just completely fuck that up? Yeah, no, no. We're in good shape.

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I think my favorite is probably Issa.

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But like I said before, I love everything they do, especially the 2003 onward stuff.

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Excellent. John?

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Apparently I don't need to have my list tonight because Gage is stealing all mine. Thank you.

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My number two is also Enslaved Rune.

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And I go back and forth between this and Below the Lights is my favorite Enslaved.

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And that's it. It's a cool album. They haven't let me down for a while. Yep. Will? A little funny story right before I say my number two. So the way I prepared for this list is I just went through iTunes and I sorted all my music from release date. And boy, did they get a lot of shit wrong. I mean, I had... I think almost every single thing that I had

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I had my original top five was like nope that was not released in 2006 like 2005 2007 or I mean it had like Gojira Mars of Sirius it had Exodus Tempo of the Damned it had had all kinds of shit in there I'm like no and I and I did the due diligence to look everything up I'm like nope that was not released that in 2006 don't trust iTunes yeah um so with that my number two Slayer Christ Illusion which you know I know I'm a Slayer

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I'm not to the point that they don't have any faults because Slayer has put out some I don't think they put out bad albums I think they put out some bad songs on some good albums but but Chris Illusion was a great album I mean that was that was also Dave's return which was so yeah exciting to have Dave Lombardo back and and I was kind of surprised I went back and looked at and I was surprised how much on that that Kerry King wrote

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And some of the best songs on the album were Cary King songs. I think he's more responsible for writing than people let on. I mean, you go back to... Lately, in the last 20 years, he's pretty much written everything. But even the Metal Blade years, like Hell of Wades and all that stuff, he wrote all my favorite songs on that. He wrote all my favorite songs on Show No Mercy. Jeff kind of took over in the real seminal times of Rain and Blood and stuff, but Cary can write some good songs.

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Yeah, I just thought Christ Illusion was a phenomenal album. It was not a bad song on the whole album. I don't think that album gets enough credit. I think I agree with you on that. That's probably my least listened to Slayer record. Not because it's bad. Just between that and World Painted Blood, I just wasn't in a Slayer place when those came out and I just never really listened to them. Oh, World Painted Blood is really good too. I actually like World Painted Blood a little better.

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Yeah. All right, Jay, number two. If my number one record hadn't come out in 2006, this would have so been my number one record. Hence being number two. But it is my number two. Not first, you're last. And it's just kind of making the number twos a little bit uniform here. Enslaved Rune. Cool. Just like everybody else has said here, I've been crazy about them since Below the Lights came out.

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I would agree with Gage that it's probably tied between this and Eseph for being my super faves. But I even think, you know, Vertebrae could sometimes, the one I say is my favorite. Who knows? By the way, I should say that I actually think Monumentum should be included in this because that's actually... I agree. I do too. They went to the clean, not clean, but they went to the English vocals at that point. That's when they started to turn the corner. I mean, there's no question.

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You're right, Gage. I think they took off with Below the Lights. Yeah, that's kind of... I call Mar Drum and Monumention their kind of transition period, like Bridges the Gap. And those have some of the coolest Enslaved songs because it's this really weird transition period in between the two styles. So I think there's some really cool stuff there. Agreed. And my favorite Enslaved cover art is Monumention. Yeah. Yeah, that's a cool cover. Dojo Boy, number two.

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My number two, nobody's going to mention this band, apparently. It's a slave room. No. This was one of my favorite black metal bands. This is their third and final album due to his suicide. This is Dissection and Rain Chaos. Great album. Yeah. Could have told me it came out in 97 and I wouldn't blink an eye. Yeah. It was kind of a surprise.

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after it came out.

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I remember it was around that time.

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I was just like, what?

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Dumbass.

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Time for King of the Hill. Gage, what's your number one?

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Cool, number one.

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Daylight Dies, Dismantling Devotion.

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Nice.

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One of my favorite Death Doom records.

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Modern, of course, but it kind of

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has the perfect melding of all

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the influences there for me.

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Great production.

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Very kind of like Opethian melodies, but Barr, their guitarist, just the way he plays, his chord choices, they really switch up a tried and true formula in a really, really cool way. And they're just one of the tops for me. But that's my favorite record from them. So what became of them? I keep waiting to hear about a new album and there's just nothing. I think they all have families and stuff, but they actually they got together. They just did a real release of,

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of their last three records on vinyl. I think they're still out there if you guys need them. My buddy Paul's got them. They sound great. They just posted an update, I think, a few weeks ago that they had gotten together to demo some new material. So I think we're due for a new one. I don't. Our kind of our guess is it's going to come out late or sorry, early 2019, as opposed

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to late 2018, but we'll see. Maybe it'll come out fast. Excellent. That's a band where I'm always like, cool, sign me up. Yep, me too. On the next one. All right. John, number one. So my number one is another comeback album, and it was a much-needed comeback album after the couple of albums that came out before this, and it's the same album now they've done for the last seven albums, I think, but nonetheless, I still think it's a cool album, and that's Eclipse by Amorphous. Oh, really?

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Who also, I think, just finished recording or about to finish recording.

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Yeah, they have been pretty prolific since they put this album out.

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Awesome.

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I might say his vocals on the Halitar, they're incredible.

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It's pretty painful to listen to that album at times.

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It is.

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Yeah, it's wretched.

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But I wouldn't have believed anybody if they told me it was Tommy from Amorphous.

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I know.

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It's incredible.

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I love to see that kind of breadth in a vocalist. So looking forward to that. Me too. Will, I think we know what your number one is. I'm pretty sure everyone can guess this one. So make them suffer. Cannibal Corpse Kill, my favorite Cannibal Corpse album fucking ever. You got songs, you know, Time to Kill is Now, Make Them Suffer. I mean, it's just maniacal. It's fucking brilliant.

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For your kids. Yep. My kids have heard this album multiple times. I'm sure they have. Yeah. All right, Jay, you want to do our number ones together? Yeah, I'll just count to say the band name first. Three, two, one. Wait, wait, how do you pronounce it? How do you pronounce his name? With a hard C, bitch. I'm glad I was going to do that then. Three, two, one. Celtic Frost. Monotheist. You know,

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I'll just slightly, slightly go against what John said and say that I think this is an album that is an example of technology and stuff finally catching up with their original vision. And when it came out, and I'm still now, okay, you could argue a lot of different things. I think it's like the heaviest record ever. I'm not joking. I think it's just like heavier than a ton of lead. It's so heavy. But I love it.

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And I just think it's just a groundbreaker. Jay, I was just saying that for me, it's a comeback out based on what they had gone through after End of the Pandemonium. So that's the only reason I said that. Oh, no, no, no. I mean about the trypticon thing. I think you're right about the trypticon thing, only that I think I very much consider this Celtic Frost. But I've made my argument before about how Martin Ayn is such an important foil to Trudan.

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And does a lot of the vocals on the record and stuff. Anyway, I could talk about this record for days. Will, you got into it recently, didn't you? Yeah. What if I told you I had an extra vinyl copy of it that could be yours for the little low price of $0? What? I paid $100 and something for my copy, but that was before the reissue. Yeah, I'm sure with the reissue. I would say you get a free coupon for Rub and Tug at the Glory Hole. Yes, I'll add it to the pile.

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Will hands those things out like they're candy. I know. I'm sorry. Yeah, I'll mail it to you. I thought about it last year. I'm enthusiastic. What can I say? I love my work. You know, I was I was I'm less hopeful now, but I was really kind of hoping that 2018 was the year of the new Trypticon album. Well, why did you lose hope? I mean, is there something you've heard or less you've heard? It's just I haven't heard anything and he doesn't do it. He's not going to just be like, boom, we have a new album. You know, yeah, I know they play in a show somewhere.

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and like may I think but I don't know I'm not I think Tom's just you know doing his thing do some people want to throw out um a few uh honorable mentions yeah I got some I got some too uh just list dog sog one uh crazy doom year um doom versus a turn on veil my dying bride a line of desolate kings uh draconian burning halo saturnus

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Veronica decides to die. And then cool records from Unleashed and Dissection. You know, we were just speculating last show about Doom Versus. We're like, it's Doom VS, but is it Versus? What is it? Everybody I know, we say Doom Versus. That's what I say, too. We're not authorities, but, yeah. Makes the most sense. Until we are corrected, that's what we'll go with. Yep. All right. John, you got any? Yeah, I got a few here.

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Rain, Cult of Luna, Somewhere Along the Highway. Somebody correct my pronunciation here. Nagura Bungit. Thank you. Om, which I think is a great atmospheric black metal album. A band I'm surprised, maybe only Jay might have mentioned, but Isis, In the Absence of Truth, the last one I like by them. I mean, I like all their stuff, but it's the last one I was really into. And then Macedon, Blood Mountain.

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Willem. I got four. First and foremost, Celtic Frost, Monotheist, Deicide Stench of Redemption, Napalm Death, Smear Campaign, and Amar Marth with Odin on our side. Nice. I got Agalok, Blind Guardian, Twist of the Myth. Twist of the Myth came out that year. I don't care what anybody says. That's a great record. Seriously, a lot of people thought that was kind of a weird record for them. It's actually one of my favorite

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I hated it when it came out and I love it

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that fly and carry the

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carry the witch at home or whatever it is carry the something home I can't remember the name of the song

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I don't care what anybody says about this one either but Iron Maiden a matter of life and death I thought was

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one of the best post 2000

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knew Willem couldn't live through it and I'm

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furious to learn furious to learn

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because this would have replaced the monomarth for me that sog one came out in 2006 i didn't even

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catch that i didn't see that either so good so good sag is one of my favorite bands i don't think

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they have any bad records and that first record was just a seminal such a good record do you still are

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you still a sog listener now with the new records and stuff they just i am i don't i didn't like their

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latest one as much um and when we say as much it's like the other the other four are like perfect for me

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But one's probably my favorite. I like the, what's the fourth one called? The... Memento Mori. Yeah. Oh, Delusions of Grandeur. Yeah, Delusions of Grandeur. Love that one. That's where I onboarded with them. I swear to God, I love the new one. But also, good news, they are recording as we speak, too. So hopefully it'll be a new SOG record in 2018. Great. Georgie.

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album Ashes Against the Grain, one we haven't heard yet, Ahab, The Call of the Wretched Sea, Devin Townsend Band, Sinquestra, Satiricons, Now Diabolical, and Strapping Young Lads, The New Black. There we are. We are finally in the homestretch. What are we listening to?

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What are you listening to, Gage? Am I the first? Cool. Tons of the new Hooded Menace. I've been in a kind of progressive technical death metal mood lately, so I've been listening to Obscura, Necrophagist, Blotted Science, and then Pestilence, Spheres.

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as well as the new one so I'm excited to listen to that one and then I'm doing a death

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metal project right now it's secret for now but it's got one of the dudes from Visigoth in it and then my my vocalist guy Paul so that'll be fun so I've been listening to like that sounds very interesting to me you you will like it it's a kind of a mashup I guess between kind of first wave Swedish death metal and then you know later kind of like

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Bloodbath meets a Greek type of Hellenic rotting Christ in the later. Really cool. H.P. Lovecraft almost it. Cosmic horror type stuff going on. So that'll be really cool. Anyways, so listen to Entrails and some other stuff like that. Sinistro, their new album, Sangue Acacia, they're one of my new favorite bands. Portuguese, kind of Doom, new one's great. They have female vocals. And then lots of Summoning. I love the new record.

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Sorry. I don't. You know, the first time I heard it, I was like, oh, this fucking blows. And I turned it off. And then I was talking to a friend of mine who's a big summoning fan who was shocked because he hadn't heard it yet because I had the promo. Sure. And I was like, all right, well, let me go back and listen to it again. And so that was what I came up with. All right. I do dig the music, but the production is so bad that it just sounds cheap. You know, you can't go and have a

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have like huge choirs and all this stuff and have it sound like it's being played on a Casio keyboard. Sure. I mean, you can, but like I said, it takes you out of the experience because you can't believe that that's what it is. You believe you're listening to a dude play a cheap keyboard. You don't live in a 486 PC then, so I do. I want to actually curse you for bringing this record up, Gage, because this is the second time we've heard this, Randy. He's very passionate about this record. But again, I don't hate it.

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I'm just that's just my nitpicking on it is that I wish you know as long as this band has been around really all they got to do is take this and send it to somebody and have them mix it and master it and make it sound better because it just sounds kind of poopy but the songs themselves are good good good and then Mournful Congregation Funeral Doomverses a lot there's a new new to me Hamforth they're from the Faroe Islands

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Great Death Doom, verging on Funeral in the tempo, I guess, you know, but love that record. And then actually that's maybe that's it. Yeah, that's about it. Cool. John. So we've mentioned a few of these already. Mike LaPond, Silent Assassins, Crow Black Sky, Sidreal Light Volume 1. They're an atmospheric progressive black metal band from Cape Town, South Africa.

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We all remember another band from South Africa. We'll be Miss King. There you go. The new EP release from the lead singer from Amon Seuss. It's called, I think, Just Not, N-O-T-T. Let's see if I get this right. Five the Hierophant over Phlegathon. It's a doom psychedelic jazz metal. They're instrumental from London. Just saw it on Bandcamp and kind of dug it.

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We just heard Gage mention Hamfrith, I think I say the name. Yeah, I think that's my understanding. Yeah, it's a TH at the end. That's really cool, Doom Metal. Hooded Menace I listened to, liked. The new Hair Carry for the Sky, I like. And I'm going to listen to this guy to my end days if he's around still. The new Joe Saturiani, What Happens Next. I've been a fan since Surfing with the Alien when it came out and haven't stopped for,

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30 plus years. So. Cool. I had surfing with the alien on cassette and like when it come out, like in the 80s, 87. You know, it'd be really cool. Well, you can get that on vinyl now. I could because I have a record player. There you go. Speaking of which, let me tell you about my vinyl purchases. Yay. Um, I just got, uh, I guess I reissued to repress the, some of the chemist albums. I got chemist hunted.

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And that cool, like, green, yellow splatter stuff. You don't need to repress your chemist. It's okay to like them. No, I fucking... I've been a... Ever since I saw him at Metal and Beer Fest, man, I've been like a fucking chemist fiend. That's probably one of my most anticipated albums of this year. Oops. That's next episode. Yeah, next episode. But... I was recently... I was taking... I did a little bit of training recently.

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And there's a guy in my class who fucking loved Behemoths, so I've been listening to some Behemoths lately. The Satanists and the Evangelion or Evangelicon or something. Evangelion. Yeah, I say Evangelion. Who knows? And then coming up at Atlas, my buddy Matt, who's a drummer in Kingsnake out of Philadelphia, they're going to come play Atlas in early February.

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and their new album, Renaissance. C.C. Gladier just recently played Atlas. And fuck, man, like an instrumental band where you don't have a lead singer, but you have a lead violinist. Who throws his bow and just about takes John out. Almost took my eye out at that show. That's where I picked up the flu. Thank you. Well, you're welcome. It all comes together.

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Maybe it was the violin bow as it flew by my head, George. Yeah. Anyway, it's C-Sick Gladiator. Listen to them. And just recently, I just got the new Hooded Menace, the Mammoth Grinder Cosmic Crypt, and the new Pestilence Hadion. Some of these I just downloaded this morning, so I haven't had a full chance to fully immerse myself with them, but I love Pestilence.

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back in the late 80s. Testimony of the ancients. Yeah, so it was kind of nice to see them release something again. And that is what I'm listening to. Jay? Okay, my list isn't too long. I just downloaded all the stuff from the box that I haven't been able to get my hands on yet. I anticipate listening to the Tribulation a lot over the next few days. I stayed up late last night to listen to the Best Blitz record. Because a buddy of mine won't shut up about it. I love you,

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I also just grabbed the Hooded Menace. And then I

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don't mind saying that I spent a lot of time over the last couple of weeks

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mourning Fast Eddie with just

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the Fast Eddie Motorhead records.

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Just the ones that he's on. And then further, now I'm mourning Slayer a little bit. I find myself just rolling Slayer all over

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since they're gone. As I said, we're about to be gone.

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I took them for granted. So there you go. I'll keep it relatively brief compared to my usual long list. So I listened to the new Audrey Horn album, Blackout. It's a Norwegian sort of hard rock band with guys from like heavier bands doing some hard rock music. And it's cool. I like it. Osservelt transitions. Got that one from John on one of the previous episodes. And I really dig that a lot. As I mentioned. Can I interrupt you for just one second?

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because you were talking about the kind of hard rock band from Norway. And I just wanted to say that I think I just read that Turbo Negro has a new record coming out, which is awesome. They do. Yeah, so I'm super excited about that. I heard the new song after that. Oh, is it good? It's pretty good. It's, you know, what you'd expect. Turbo Negro. Exactly. Or Turbo Negro, however you pronounce it. But anyway, please continue, sir. I listened to a lot of Devin Townsend stuff just because I was reading the book and as I was going through the book, I was like, oh, he's talking about this album. I'll throw that on.

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Druid Lord, Grotesque Offerings. It's the second album from a Florida Death Doom band. I found that on, I think, Bandcamp, maybe. Eternal Valley, The Falling Light. This is a U.S. black metal band, one-man band. Check that out. That's also on Bandcamp, I believe. Frost Giant, The Harlot Star. This is the full-length debut from a PA Death Folk band. They've released a few EPs and things like that.

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They're interesting. It's not folky like Viking folk, pagan folk. It's just... There's like some... It's almost death metal, but with a lot of harmonized vocals, maybe? I don't know. Check it out. Hamforth, that album. John turned me on to that one. I've been listening to that. The new Heidevoke album, Vor Von Verzet. They're from the Netherlands.

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They're a folk viking band, and they're pretty cool. In preparation for the Skullcrusers, I listen to a lot of Manowar. And finally, this is a band that's going to be at Death Fest on Saturday, so I checked them out. It's a Greek black thrash band, and when I say the name, I can't help but thinking of Laverne and Shirley. The band's called Zamil. No laughter there from anybody that knows that show.

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Let me old slamazel. Got you. Yes, exactly, exactly. Come on, we know it. We know it. Sorry, I was muted when I started laughing. This is the third album, Nykta, or however you actually pronounce that, N-Y-K-T-A. And that was surprisingly interesting, so I'm going to check that out a little bit more as we make our way towards Death Fest. And that's what I've been listening to. Here we are at the end of the episode. I want to thank Gage for coming on and just... Staying on.

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Yeah, like participating more than we could have ever hoped.

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Cool, good. Thanks. It was a blast.

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Yeah, some people come on and don't say a whole heck of a lot. You got to drag things out of them.

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So it was really nice that you just dove in feet first and took charge. So thank you.

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Well, I'll try to put out another album so you can have me on again.

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We'll love to have you on again.

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Exactly.

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Always shoot the shit with you.

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Yeah, well, hopefully we'll see you towards the end of the year then.

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Yeah, I think so.

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All right.

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