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Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, metal's my religion, and, yeah, it's my dope, standing in the thunder on stage in the pouring metal rain. What a feeling, baby, the lights are exploding.

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Hello and welcome to the Metalheads Podcast.

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My name is George. And Puke. This is Jay. This is Will. And I'm John. And this is our first episode of 2016, episode 41. I want to first start by saying how badass is it that for a second episode in a row, our friends Will and John join us. Exactly. They are part of this Metalheads machine. That's right. You know, for list mania, though, too. I mean, it's lists. We're all addicted to lists now. So that's right. Last episode, we did.

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our year-end best of 2015 list. And Buke had the great idea this time. Instead of our top three, we're going to do a top ten albums of the last 15 years. George, I've got to contradict you. It's not a great idea. It's a terrible fucking idea. It was a hard idea. I actually found it not too challenging as long as I'm allowed to have 25 honorable mentions. Exactly.

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this together and there's no way you can possibly go through all the albums that have come out in the last 15 years and find everything that was awesome in that span of time. So really, this is our best guess approximation for having thought about it for only a week. It'll be a cumulative list because if we were saying, oh, fuck, I forgot that a lot last time, just wait till today, dude. Yeah, exactly. We had been talking about how much overlap was on the year-end lists and frankly, I don't

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I think there's going to be a whole lot of overlap on this list because there's so much to choose from. I could be wrong. I think you're wrong, George. I think there's going to be a lot of overlap. I think, yeah, I really do. At least four or five, maybe six records will be on multiple lists. I got to believe that. I mean, I think Buk and I might have some stuff because, you know, we did the last 15 years together. Yeah. And so... Me and my list, the last five years are pretty absent. Yeah. Maybe because I think

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looking at like a 15 year list what jumped right out to me is what i listened to the most over those years and just frankly enough time hasn't passed yet over the past couple years yeah i'm thinking maybe two maybe three maybe four the buke and i might have but there's at least one two of mine that i'm betting nobody will have three that nobody will have any chance that anybody on shares a number one on the list no nobody's gonna have one uh no george and i might there's a slight chance george and i might

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No one has Bell Witches number one, Jay, okay? Hey, I thought about putting that on there, but I'll tell you right now, it's not on my list at all. Can I please go on record while I have you here, Will? First off, I'm butchering words already. Are you talking to Jay or are you talking to Will? I'm talking to you, Will. Your most recent brew heads, dude, you knocked it out of the fucking park. Thank you, sir. You knocked it out of the park, man. There's going to be a guy about a gazillion,

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more coming. Okay. Yeah. We can't wait. Yeah. If you haven't checked that out yet, uh, Will's done a couple of, uh, the brew heads as we're calling them so far. Uh, first one was a three Floyds for the, uh, Amber smashed face based on cannibal corpse, of course. And then he also did the, uh, left hand, uh, brewing, uh, three, not three left hand brewing, uh, fade to black. Yeah. So what I have in the, what I have in the hopper right now is I'm doing the Slayer beer. I'm waiting to hear back from the brewery in Incasi. So I had a couple of questions.

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for them. I want to try and do... I don't really like to call these things beer reviews. It's more of infomercials or I don't know. But wait. But wait, there's more. Yes. If you call in 10 minutes... Yeah, call in the next 10 minutes. We'll send you a second six pack for free. Hey, how was the Opeth beer? We'll let you know. We'll let you know. Oh! He showed it to me. He whipped it out and stuck in the camera. You said the Skype.

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We will be drinking it during this podcast. All right, cool. Don't worry, Buke, I've got more. Well, let us know when you break into it. So the big news since the last time we talked to you is, of course, the fact that after all our speculation this past year, the mighty Lemmy has finally left the building. As is per usual, Buke, a.k.a. the Angel of Death, rained down upon me and said, hey, Lemmy died. I'm like, God!

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Damn it! When I texted you, I could tell you were busy doing something. You were like, wait, what? I was working. Yeah, you were like, what? What's going on? Yeah, and he told me about it, and I was like, oh, that sucks. I mean, not unexpected or anything like that, but wow, okay. And then I kept working, and about 10 minutes later, it was like, boom! Just fucking hit me. I just started bawling. I was on a... I was just... I started playing some Motorhead music and put on a playlist.

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and started thinking about all the times I've seen him and just like, you know, he's one of those people that has been a part of my life for, you know, 25 years or more. And while I didn't know him personally, never met him, he's just one of those institutions that's always there. It's like part of your family. He's always been there and suddenly he's gone. And it's just like this hole. And you're just like, wow, you know, it's like when Dio died, you know, that's probably the magnitude, you know, when Dio died, when Peter Steele died, those were like,

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Those were catastrophic events. And this was, while again, not unexpected, a pretty devastating blow. Well, like you said, we didn't know him, dude. But he's like, the way I liken it, especially with famous people, and obviously this being a famous person in metal, who I do like, legitimately like, Motorhead. It's like one of those, it's like a star on the sky map, you know what I mean? Like, it's just, it's there. You know it's there, and it's just weird that that shit's gone all of a sudden. So, it's just weird. It's like one of those little things by which, even subconsciously, you know,

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navigate the world, you know, because you know where all your shit is. You know where Lemmy is. You're like, where'd the Big Dipper go? That's right. 2015 was a shitty year. I mean, a lot of big names passed. I mean, Jay and I did a little commiserating over Chris Squire from Yes. Yeah, man, that was just a tough year. It was a tough year. It was. And Chris Squire was an amazing bass player, too. We got decimated last year. It makes you wonder who's going this year, you know, because I owe me, you know, shit like that. I mean, just

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The Metal's getting weird, dude. And we're getting old. You hit it on the head. Jay, we're getting old. Yeah, we're getting old. And they're older than us. How's it going to be when a Kirk Hammett dies? That'll be alright. Yeah, as long as it's not Hetfield. Does he still play guitar? Yeah. Okay, how's it going to be when James dies? Devastating. Yeah, of course. How about Lars? Nobody really cares about that. Crickets. My big woe is Jeff Hanneman. Yeah. Really? Yeah, exactly, dude. Oh, yeah.

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Yeah, that was pretty devastating, too. And also, Mike Scotchia, or Scacia, whoever pronounce it, from Rigor Mortis. Yeah, that was rough. Rigor Mortis and Ministry. Not that I cared about Ministry, but Rigor Mortis, man, that guy, unbelievable. He made Ministry. I mean, his guitar riffs on Ministry, that was what got me into Ministry. That's the reason why I listed them. Yeah, exactly. Same here. Died on stage. Well, Chuck Schildinger, too. I mean, you know. Oh, yeah, that's obvious. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But just to kind of steer it back to Lemmy, I mean, just like George, I've been kind of on

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and one of the things George and I talked about is, and we've said this on the show, but sometimes we can buke a pass. We're sort of like, you know what, dude, if you don't like them, yeah, we'll admit that all their stuff is all of a type and sounds the same. But you know what? When you go and put on the Motorhead eras, they don't all sound the same. No. All the different eras have their own distinct sound, and it's not all the same. And that's a band you've got to see live. You've got to experience them live. Just that wall of sound just blasts you right in the face when it starts, and for an hour,

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you're just like fucking bring it you know talk about the different the different eras you talk about one era is at 420 decibels the next era is at 419 decibels the next era is at 422 decibels yeah you're right you know i'm just making a joke but well it's like you know there's different sounds i mean you know there's the early stuff which was way way punky and then you know some of the like uh late 80s kind of stuff they i don't want to say it was more produced but i mean there was a little

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more melody and stuff in there. There was the shaved lemmy period where it was actually pretty kind of catchy and his voice wasn't quite as rough. And then the last period, the last four or five albums or so, it was just sort of, I don't know, it was just like, I don't know, they were all the same, but it was heavy and his voice was scratchy. You can tell the different periods. I'd have to have the list of albums in front of me, but it's not like he was only a one-trick pony.

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Yeah, no. Well, I mean, I got the periods memorized, really, the eras. I mean, basically, it's the originals, you know? And then you've got the period where Orgasmatron, for about four records after that, it was two guitar players, which really changed the band. Oh, and actually, and I totally skipped the Robbo Robertson period, where they had one album out, Another Perfect Day, which was the guy from Sin Lizzy. And then you get into the last period, which was really kind of the heavier heavy metal period, you know? Oh, don't say heavy metal in front of Lemmy.

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Can you guys explain something to me though? As you know, I've said before, not a Motorhead fan. I want to wear Motorhead headphones out of association. That's what George has here. Why is it that Motorhead seems to, when I think of Motorheads, all I think of Asus Vades or Gasmatron, but you see them, and I mean no disrespect to the Ramones either.

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The marketing machine, I think, seems to be bigger than they are. Do you say that's weird? Because to me, I haven't heard Motorhead really, I'm kind of losing my thought here, but kind of have any weight. I got a theory, because George, that's what you and I talked about, which was when Lemmy died, he was actually something that we identified with on a musical level. But there's a whole group of people out there that identify with Lemmy on an icon level. There's people that are fans of Motorhead, and then there's Lemmy fans.

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But I guess where I was going with that is you see Motorhead branded everything. I remember growing up before the ages of the internet. I say that as I'm turning 33 tomorrow. Getting like metal magazines or buying shirts and stuff. No matter if it was socks, boxers, hats, headbands. You always knew whatever it was. Incense holders. You know you could always find a Motorhead one of those. Well you know the Motorhead logo is kind of transcendent.

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and it's like a piece of pop culture icon. Okay. And so that's why there's a lot of people that have that stuff that don't even like Motorhead. I guess maybe that kind of added on to me not understanding why they were so big because it's like I'm seeing so much get thrown at me that it's not, it never stuck and I'm like, man, if I'm seeing it, if everything I look is branded Motorhead, these guys must be like the fucking Beatles. I can probably give you a good sort of metaphor.

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is that Motorhead may have branded a whole bunch of everything, but the music still is there. Lemmy is still there. The music is still great. It's great rock and roll, dare I say heavy metal. Then you have something equivalent like Kiss, which I grew up loving Kiss. And then, you know, it's like, yeah, I know. But Kiss is the same way. They put their name on everything. But this day and age, your music does not stand behind all the branding. So I think you have, what I see it as, you have Motorhead where the music stands,

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up. It's great rock and roll slash metal. It's always been pretty much the same way. You know what you're going to get with every album, and it's great. But with Kiss, it's sort of like... Kiss has turned more into a marketing machine than a band at this point. Actually, I'll go you one further, Will. And here's what I would compare it to be Harley-Davidson. And that's that... You see tons of people wearing Harley-Davidson shirts that don't have Harley-Davidson's, you know, and probably don't give a true fuck about motorcycles. That's a great point, Jake. It's a brand. Yeah, it's a brand. And it's a brand that represents kind of outlaw

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Blah, blah, blah, blah. That's why people love Lemmy as an icon. And I get that. It's fine. It's just, you know, I like the music better than I like that Outlaw brand. And so that's annoying to those of us who really love Motorhead, by the way, Buke. Yeah. I liken Motorhead to the Ramones as well, another one of my favorite bands. Because the Ramones were really huge in certain circles. And, you know, much like Motorhead, you'll see people wearing the Ramones logo on a t-shirt.

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that you're like, what a fucking poser. Because the Ramones were never big financially or commercially. Nobody, you know, they never had a number one album or they never charted high and they never had the sales, but they had the respect of the music community and their peers. And so there were a lot of Ramones fans, but not a lot of money behind the Ramones. And I've always thought of Motorhead as the same way, only that Lemmy is more of a cultural icon.

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and therefore, you know,

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the guy lived, eat and breathe,

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the rock and roll lifestyle.

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And you know what?

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And he loved the Ramones, you know?

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And the other thing here,

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I think another thing that explains it,

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and this is something true that I read in a Motorhead review once,

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maybe four years ago when some record or another came out.

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And it's so fucking true.

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Every Motorhead song title,

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with few exceptions,

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is basically a biker tattoo.

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You know what I mean?

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Born to Lose,

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Built for Speed.

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I mean, it just goes on and on.

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The Ace of Spades, The Hammer, I mean, it's Killed by Death. They're all things that you would write on. They're either tattoos or something you would write on a bomb in the Navy, you know what I mean? There you go, ISIS, here's a little Killed by Death. Yeah, and that resonates with people. It seems like every song I've been hearing, you know, every time I turn on XM radio, and, you know, I gotta say I love the tributes they've been doing, just tons and tons of tributes. It seems like every song I hear from Motorhead,

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is somehow saddening. Because it's like, oh, you know, Killed by Death. Yeah, he was. It took death to kill Lemmy. Yeah, okay. Or Tiferorgasmatron. But, you know, a lot of the songs are just like, wow. That's a depressing title right about now. Let me read you some, George, because you and I are talking about that. And here's one that really went home with me when I was listening to the song after you and I talked. Let me get it up here real quick.

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It's totally worth your time. And it's called Build for Speed. And it's off of Orgasmatron. And it says, let's see here. You know the rules. You all know the game. Try to do what's right. And I swear I can't complain if I die tonight. But I don't think it's in the stars for me to go that way. I'll be here for a long, long time, babe. I'm here to stay. And that came out. That was off of Orgasmatron. That song, Built for Speed. Yeah, and I posted on Facebook. I think it was All for You. Is that the name of the song? From Rock and Roll? Yeah. And, you know, he was talking about the line,

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that'll be the day that I die. And I was like, whoa, mind blown, you know. He's talking about the day he died on the day that he died. That's messed up. Respect to Lemmy, man. Much respect to Lemmy. I am a fan. I'm a fan of Motorhead. I'm sorry to see him go. And by the way, I don't necessarily recommend this, but if you get a chance, look at the last two photos that were taken at his 70th birthday party, dude. I don't know how he lived the next three days. I mean, he looked like a skeleton with skin hanging off of it. I mean.

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I got the chance to go to the Rainbow to see his spot. And I was like, oh, that's kind of cool. I mean, it was packed. You know, I couldn't even move in the place, but I got a chance to see it at least. And so it was worth the visit. Did you see his initials on the trivia machine? No, I saw the machine. I saw the spot, but I couldn't get to it. When that place is full, you can't move. And if there's bands in there that night, forget it. Where is this place? It's on Sunset Strip. It's just this little place. Rainbow Bar and Grill. Rainbow Bar and Grill. Just sitting right there in the middle of it. Yeah.

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They took the video game that he plays and they shipped it down to his apartment so that he could play it while he was passing. In fact, I read that he was playing it when he died. Where did he live in the end? An apartment complex just down the street from the Rainbow. So he moved to L.A.? He's been there for years. 15-20 years. He lived in a houseboat in London for a long time. Then he moved to the U.S. and he literally lived in this just like no nondescript apartment

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complex, a few blocks from the Rainbow, because he liked to walk there. He literally moved so he could be next to the Rainbow. Incidentally, another fact about the Rainbow, that's why Richie Blackmore named his band Rainbow. All the rock guys used to hang out there. So wait, did they change it to Richie Blackmore's Rainbow in LA? That was a good one. My next question is, how are Jack Daniel's stocks doing right now? Yeah, they probably plummeted the next day. Right, where sales went down and we have no idea why.

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I'm thinking they did alright from all the posers who decided to start drinking Jack Daniels all of a sudden. Yeah. Move over, Black Tooth Grin. It's time for Jack and Coke. Oh, shit. Now it's vodka and orange juice. Yeah, it was vodka and orange before. Yeah. It was slightly healthier. Yeah. It was healthy for him. This is good of those fruits. So a couple of interesting tidbits along these lines. There's a change.org petition going around to try and get a new heavy metal.

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element that was discovered to be named Lemium. And at last I looked, it was at 52,000 signatures. So that'd be pretty awesome. Apparently somebody also named a star after him. But that would be pretty awesome. Also, you know, I saw another campaign going around where people were trying to get people to buy and stream Ace of Spades to try and get it number one on the charts the week after. They didn't get number one, but

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It did land on multiple billboard charts, so better than nothing. Is that based on airplay or purchasing? Both. Well, see, it depends on the list. That's the thing. It was on a digital streaming list, and it was on the rock charts. I guess they have a list for everything now. There was some town in Finland, too. I think it was Finland that played Ace of Spades through the Bell Tower downtown, the city government. A lot of people have honored him.

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People really did love the guy. He is a world figure, you know, and he traveled the world. But there's been lots of little stories popping up where it's just sort of like, you know, people, they named it Lemmy Day and such and such a city and stuff. Yeah, I mean, it's been, what, a week? No, it's been more than a week. It's the 9th and he died in December. So it's been 10, 11 days. And, like, I was listening to Liquid Metal and Boneyard again this morning and they're still posting stuff up there, R.I.P. Lemmy, and talking about it.

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So, you know, he definitely meant a lot to a lot of people. And in fact, today is his funeral out in Los Angeles. And unfortunately, they're, well, fortunately, they're streaming it live on YouTube at six o'clock Eastern time. So today being January 9th, because by the time you hear this, it's going to be a few days. Yeah, I think, yeah, yeah. Yes. So presumably, you'll be able to watch it after the fact as well, I'm hoping, because we're going to be, that's going to be happening.

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while we're doing this and while we do our interview with Roundtable. And by the way, I have to have a mea culpa here because I had everyone move up the time of the podcast scheduled today based on a family schedule of mine. So therefore... Therefore I don't get to watch the first hour. George does not get to watch the Lemmy funeral. Yeah, but we wanted you here, brother, so it was worth it. Well, guess what? At the funeral, Lemmy's dead. Exactly. You're not, so you take priority.

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I'm not dead yet. Yeah. Then I'll go for a walk. I'm feeling better. Actually, I figured it'd be more just a fuck off in the middle finger and that's it. Yeah. Yeah. I think Lemmy would want his funeral to be everybody walks up and pisses on the casket and walks away. Yeah. You know. Maybe like a voters who are on his funeral pyre on a lake or something. Yeah. Yeah. I made that so I can't complain. Yeah. All right. Well, why don't we get into our featured band?

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for today.

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The band is called Roundtable.

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You may have heard us speak of them on the podcast previously.

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They're from Australia,

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and we're going to be playing you some music from their first album,

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Dread Marches Under Bloodied Regalia.

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So here's the interview, and we'll be back after that.

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This week's Me, John Band

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This week's Me, John Band

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This makes me just mad.

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Listen to this now.

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Hello and welcome to the Metal Heads Podcast. My name is George.

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And Buke. And this is Jay.

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And we are joined today by Jono and Reese from Roundtable.

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All the way in Melbourne, Australia. How are you doing today guys?

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From the future.

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Yes, from the future.

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Good day. It's Saturday here in Maryland, but it's around 7.30 in the evening. But over there in Australia, it's about 11.30 in the morning, if I'm getting that right. Yeah, and Jono assured us that nothing terrible happens in the next five hours, so we're okay. Yeah. So why don't you guys introduce yourselves and each of us tell you, just tell us who you are and what you do in the band. I'm Jono. I play guitars in the band. I'm Reese. I play bass and do the vocals.

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Well, the screaming, I would. Scantily call it vocals. Yeah, that's vocals. You didn't say singing. That's all right. Yeah, Jay does the same thing. Yeah, I'm accused of similar crimes. Yeah, right. Can you give us some history on the band? How did you guys come together? How long you've been together? Stuff like that. We started, I think, in 2012. I sort of put ads out trying to find. I wasn't from Melbourne originally.

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I was from Perth on the other side of Australia and I sort of tried to find people to play with sometime. Sort of putting out classified ads and whatnot to saying what sort of thing I was thinking of. Mostly met with failure. Just had a couple of jams with people and it just didn't really gel or anything. I was kind of on the verge of giving up because it was just getting kind of exhausting. But I saw an ad from someone else who was a drummer saying he was looking to start something. And some of the sort of things mentioned is sort of

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or whatever, sound like they might be compatible.

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Who are they? Let's hear them. What were the ones that stood out? What stood out to you?

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I think from memory it was Black Sabbath, Electric Wizard and the Sword.

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Okay. That's perfect. Can't go wrong with that.

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Yeah. So I thought, well, here's someone who might share an interest in the sort of thing that I want to do.

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So I thought, what the hey, just give it a go.

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And we did organize a jam and yeah, it went really well.

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So I think we did maybe another one and that went well too. And he sort of suggested that he had a friend who played bass who might be interested who turned out to be a person. Guys, I've heard of horror stories of people buying cars and stuff on the internet. How is it going to meet future possible band members on the internet? Is it a little bit like online dating? Yeah. When you show up and somebody may be talking themselves up. Because I've gone on online dates when I see a profile

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I'll picture of a girl and I show up and I'm like oh this isn't the same person like somebody who may have said oh yeah I can riff and I can you know keep this amazing time on drums or I got killer vocals and they show up and they're like ding dong ding bong ding you're like what the hell is this yeah we had one band out here that's they found one of their guys on Craigslist I don't know if you have Craigslist there or not you ever heard of them oh we do yeah and that's kind of the point it was that you know

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It's like you find prostitutes and things like that on Craigslist. You don't find band members there.

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Let's hear about you, Reece, a little bit.

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Yeah, well, I just got a text message one day from Josh. Josh is our drummer.

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And I'd been in a bunch of bands with him before of different genres.

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And he just said, "Yeah, there's this band. I've just had a jam with a guy.

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And come around and we'll have a go."

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And yeah, it was definitely interesting meeting Jono for the first time.

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He had an enormous prospector beard down to his chest. Prospector's beard. I love that. You're like, oh my god, who's this guy? Is he going to break out the jaw harp? Definitely. I was like, this guy looks like he's indulged in hallucinogens at some point. So I can trust his taste in music. Especially with the style of metal.

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you guys play. Definitely, if somebody's a little out there a little bit, maybe you give them the benefit of the doubt a little. Heavy riff influence, a little high on fire type of vibe. Give them a little. If Matt Pike would have showed up, these guys would want to kick him to the curb right away. Your first album is called Dread Marches Under Bloodied Regalia. First of all, I've got to tell you, that's probably one of my favorite album titles last year. Such a cool... I would have bought the album on the

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on the album title alone. Can you give us a little bit of information on what was your recording process like? Did you do it in a studio? Did you do a home studio? What was your process and how long did it take? The first year and a half, we've been together for three years. The first year and a half to two years was all home studio stuff. Bringing along a little handheld recorder to our jam sessions and just piecing together bit by bit songs.

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that first started off at like 45 minutes long each and just trying to condense them down into some kind of format. And then we went to the studio. You want to tell them a bit about that? Yeah. So it took a while to sort of write all this stuff, I guess. But after a while, we were like, you know, we're going to have to do an album or something formal as a sort of creative statement to be taken seriously. So we just made ourselves the goal of recording an album.

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So we booked ourselves in with a professional studio over here called Goat Sound run by Jason Fuller who was previously, well actually I think he still is but they don't do much anymore. A band called Blood Duster, I don't know if they're in America. Wow, they're an older band aren't they? Yeah, yeah I remember them. They've been a grindcore and all kinds of stuff. Yeah, he's still, he's become more of an engineer although he still plays in bands and yeah pretty sought after for different types of metal.

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kind of stuff and that. We'd heard a couple of things that he'd recorded in the past and thought it would be a good match for our stuff. I had misguings at first. Wait, what's the profanity? Are we allowed to swear on here? You can swear all you fucking want. Swear like a dirty Australian criminal like the country was founded on. I heard from Josh, I'm pretty sure it's a blood duster album, it's just called Cunt. Yes, it is. It's a tat across a girl's stomach if I'm correct.

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So I wasn't sure what we were getting ourselves into with a guy like that. He's mellowed out a lot, definitely. Yeah, I'm sure. I'm picturing a guy in a bow tie. It's really nice to meet you gentlemen. Who did the album cover artwork? That was my partner's mum. Wow, okay. That's cool. I like that. I love the album art.

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And keep it in the family too. That's awesome, man. I'm not joking. That's really cool. That sounds like a little family affair over there. Economically sound decision too, by the way. Well, I did pay quite well for it. I take it back. Where do you guys draw your lyrical inspiration from? Did one of you write the lyrics?

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It was mostly Jono first up and it was just kind of a, what do you call it, like a collaboration. Yeah, this is good, this isn't so good kind of process from there. Because Jono from the outset had a really solid idea of what the kind of theme was going to be, what the songs were about. So yeah, he kind of had to hold our hands at first and just get it all recorded and get a kind of concept down on page, essentially. Yeah. That was the best edition.

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Yeah.

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What are the lyrics talking about?

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What's that?

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What are your lyrics, you know?

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Do you feel like they're metaphorical or is it, you know?

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Yeah.

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Are you just telling stories or is there like a deeper message to it?

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Telling a story, I guess.

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Yeah.

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I mean, it's a narrative concept album.

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So it's, yeah, it's not really trying to be metaphorical.

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It's just telling.

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For what it's worth, I didn't expect it was.

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So I hope that you're not disappointed in your own answer.

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We're pretty gut level guys. So I mean, yeah, right on. I mean, it might be like allegorical on some level, but I like that it's kind of open to interpretation, you know, I'm not really a big fan of, you know, trying, trying hard to kind of push home some kind of, you know, agenda or whatever through, you know, I think it's you and J.R.R. Tolkien. Tolkien was a J.R.R. Tolkien. That's a famous thing that he was like way not into it. Cause all the hippies were like, but yeah, it's like this man. And Tolkien was like, it's just about how

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It represents nothing. I get the impression, based on listening to the album, that the music takes precedence over the lyrics, given how much more of it there is. Yeah. I mean, Sleeps Jerusalem is, the three of us love that album. And I love it too, by the way. That's a favorite of mine. Sit down, guys. Can I ask you, are the three of you? I've listened to the album. I own it. I own all of Sleeps stuff on vinyl. I don't appreciate it, because

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I don't know how to listen to it. I love it, dude. Do you just put it on, though? And are you like, man, that 27-minute mark really strikes out at me, you know? Or is it just kind of like all-encompassing? It's all-encompassing. Yeah, it's more like that, I think. I mean, you guys should speak for yourselves. But for me, it's just a statement, man. I mean, the whole thing is just like this one big mood, you know? And also, I'm a huge Pike fan, as you know. I don't want to speak for you gentlemen. I mean, maybe it's the stoner thing, dude.

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A Stoner Doom thing or you don't. I don't know. Yeah, that's true. But I mean, yeah, there's lyrics, maybe, what, ten lines of lyrics in that whole hour and five minutes? Not a lot. It's always something that should kind of complement a song in this style of music, I think, rather than being out there in the front and taking... Especially because we're all kind of musicians first. I'm sorry, instrumentalists first. Yeah, so everyone's an instrumentalist first, not a vocalist first. Yeah, that's right.

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If that makes sense, it totally does. That was the impression I got listening to it. Because if it's not anyone's strong suit, why worry about kind of putting it out there first? You know? Just let the instrumental part speak for itself. Well, it's not necessarily a matter of a strong suit. I mean, the vocals are great. They are. It's just, if that's not your focus, I think is what you meant to say. And it wasn't at first. We originally were just going to be instrumental. Wow. It just kind of wedged its way in somewhere. I know it's still early yet. Have you thought that maybe

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Subsequent albums may just be an instrumental release. Could be. Could be. Yeah. I'm working to it. Yeah. Yeah, maybe. So for each of you guys, what influenced you to start playing music in the first place? You know, what and well, what were the bands that you got into, you know, when you were younger? Were they metal bands? Were they rock bands? Do you have any dirty secrets? Like, you know, maybe there's some Brian Adams in there or, you know. And second part to the question, if it's a long winded question,

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I'm sorry, is what kind of things were you listening to when you wrote the album? Yeah, I guess what got me into music originally was I always had a knack for it as a young kid, and so mom got me piano lessons for a start. So pretty much from, I don't know, 10 or 11 onwards, I've been involved in music and playing instruments and whatnot. And then what put me onto bass and more heavier music was a girl that I had a crush on in high school played bass and started like, you know, dyeing her hair black and all that kind of stuff. So I was like, oh,

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There's a darker side to this thing. I got into it. What was your first metal band? First metal band? Oh, jeez. I don't know. I mean, probably, it's such a wide genre, so it's probably Tool when I started taking it seriously. Sure. But, you know, like, dirty secrets and stuff like that. Like, everyone in my hometown loved Nickelback back in the day. It was, yeah, that's probably the dirtiest secret. Oh, and Creed as well. They were huge in the 90s.

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That was just like impossible to ignore. Wow, those are we said dirty secrets and you were like I'm just going straight for the fucking basement. Yeah. Oh wow. But yeah. Well, maybe not Buke. Yeah. Yeah. I am pleased to say I avoided both of those bands, but the that's also sort of telling about your age. I think you are probably what your late 20s or something or yeah. Yeah. Both of you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because it was interesting to hear that tool like tool was

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What record in particular was going on with Tool when you got into them? It would have been Anima at that stage. That's my favorite. Did you see them when they came over there? Yeah, just the most recent one. Did you like it? Thought it was a good show? Yeah, it was a great show. What amazed me was I was about three rows back in the mosh pit and I didn't need earplugs or even feel like I was getting barraged by their sound. It was just a perfectly mixed, yeah, they're just really professional.

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They actually were here last night, I believe, and they're playing tonight too. They had two sold-out shows in San Francisco. That's impressive. I didn't go. I've seen them like a thousand times. It's just the thing about Australia too, right? I mean, really, you guys, it's an event, isn't it? I mean, not everybody comes over there. Yeah, that's true. Geez, it's like a 24-hour flight. Yes, yeah. And so every once in a while I'll see. I do think maybe High and Fire's been there, haven't they? No, in a couple of weeks. This is their first time. I mean, in a couple of weeks. They were in New Zealand.

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I think they were in New Zealand for the earthquake that's what it was I think.

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Oh yeah, they've been down in our hemisphere.

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You got your tickets?

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Yeah, no.

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I do.

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They're playing like in a bit over a month.

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Yeah.

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Week after our launch actually.

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Yeah.

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I held out buying tickets because there was a possibility we may have got the support for this.

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Oh!

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Yeah, I think.

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As in, yeah, just hope.

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Yeah, right.

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Yeah, good luck.

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We didn't get it.

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We didn't get it.

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Oh, okay.

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All right.

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Thanks for bringing it up, guys.

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Jeez.

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That's their loss.

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Yeah.

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Right?

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Goddamn right.

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It's their loss.

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Their loss.

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Totally.

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So, Jono, what about you?

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What got you into music?

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What bands did you like?

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Ah, yeah.

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Probably my first band that I really got into was Rage Against the Machine.

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Sure.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, so I mean, nowadays I don't really have the same strong feelings about it except a bit of nostalgia, but I'll see it for what it is. But yeah. Skating games. Yeah. A lot of guitar playing definitely made me want to pick up the instrument and I'll always be grateful for that. Yeah. Was there any other guitar players that made you want to play? I'm struggling off the top of my head, so maybe not. But, you know, like I might have listened to a lot of bands and like wanted to play that kind of stuff. But, you know, it was like the one where I actually focused on the individual.

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I was into the heavy metal, heavy music I guess from the outset.

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So that's kind of what I wanted to play.

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But yeah, a lot of it was pretty dubious.

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Because you know, Ranged Against the Machine, they weren't too bad,

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but they kind of opened the floodgates with the whole rap metal thing.

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Yeah.

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I'm sorry to say that as a youngster I did kind of fall for that kind of thing.

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It's very gratifying to a sort of fubescent taste.

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Absolutely man. Lots of shouting, good beats.

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Fuck you, I won't do what you tell me! I'm going to clean my room. Exactly. You know, we were, speaking of influences and that kind of thing, you're part of an episode right now, the podcast that we just have been talking about our favorite records in the last 15 years. I'm not going to necessarily ask you that, but was there anything like in the last, maybe last year that you really liked a lot, and particularly metal? I mean, it's like, what records have you guys really been enjoying lately?

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Honestly, the last year has been definitely for myself very insular and focused on what I'm doing. Consuming. Yeah, very consuming. I did manage to listen to a couple of albums. I think maybe Elder. Yeah, that's a great album. Also, I've been listening to the new Goatsnake a lot.

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That's just a really, really catchy album. I don't usually slam albums over and over, but yeah, you just keep wanting to go back and listen to that. It's great driving music. Yeah, I like, what's his name, Stephen, the guy in the band. He's the dude who's the son of a two. Yeah, Greg Anderson, excuse me. Yeah, he's a guitarist. He's excellent on that. Yeah, he's a great guitar player. He really is. And I believe he owns the label. I'm pretty sure Greg Anderson is the owner of Southern Lord Records. Yeah, I think that's a good one.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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The, uh, Reese, what have you been listening to?

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Um, I mean, John and Josh listen to enough metal for several men.

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So I tend to try and, uh, balance things out and, uh, listen to other genres when

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I can and try and take, you know, good snippets from those.

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But I guess I'm always going back to, um, Ulm and, uh, the adviatic songs or how do you

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say that?

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The other half of the songs.

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I can't remember.

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Yeah.

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So that's Sleep minus Matt Pike.

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So.

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Oh, is it a different drummer? I didn't know they switched up. I haven't followed them real close. They changed a few years ago. Did they? I was a little more, I was kind of Matt Pike loyal myself, which is silly. I'm not, I don't mean to say you had to choose one or the other, but that was kind of the direction I went with that split up, you know, you go with mom or dad. I went with dad during the divorce. They're from here too. And Matt lives here. So, I mean, I don't know him, but he, you know, they're kind of an Oakland phenomenon. I live real close to

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Any of you guys motorhead fans? Comment on the news about Lemmy's passing? It wasn't unexpected, was it? No. We were predicting it for months. There was reports about him running out of steam at gigs. He definitely was someone who'd just keep playing to the end. Everyone knew that it was serious. He wouldn't take this thing lightly. He looked awful in the pictures. We saw it coming. Are you motorhead fans?

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Yeah, yeah. Josh especially. He saw them live, I think it was four years ago, whatever he says. Best live show he'd ever seen, ever. Yeah, yeah, they're great. They're great live. Yeah, not to be morbid, but we were kind of predicting that this would be the year that we lost him, and he didn't quite make it to this year. Yeah, yeah. Not quite. Actually, his funeral's today. Yes, in fact. That's right. Actually, it's probably just about over now. Yeah, I watched part of the live stream just before you guys called. Yeah, yeah, I was going to do that, and then we reorganized

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when we were going to record the rest of the episode. So hopefully there's a non-live stream that'll be up there afterward because I'd like to check that out.

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Absolutely. What did you, what was it, were people talking or were bands playing or what was it that you saw?

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When I was watching, it was just like 10 minutes. It was, yeah, just people sharing memories and whatnot.

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Okay. That's cool.

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Excuse me.

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So is there any, would it be a realistic hope for you guys to tour a little bit with this record? And I even just mean in Australia. I mean, I'll tell you right now.

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Have you done any live shows? Yeah, we have done live shows. We've definitely ramped it up this year. I can't see us doing much. Sorry, last year. I can't see us doing a whole bunch of touring on the back of this record. Unless something happens and it gets a lot bigger than it is at the moment. I don't know what that would be. It could just be the right person talking about it. We've never really been the beneficiaries of a whole lot of hype.

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I can't imagine it's real convenient to go other countries. Is there like a touring circuit of Australia that bands hit? There is, but it's not really much of a circuit because unlike your country or Europe, there's so much space in between each major town. And for the most part, you might as well forget about country towns because it's hard enough to find enough fans to play a show to in a major city, let alone a country.

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country town where everybody's just heard of Nickelback, you know? Right. Yeah. So you, um, well, what's the, so that was in a related question. What is the scene? Like you're in Melbourne. What's the, what's the scene in Melbourne? And I mean, the metal scene, are there other bands? Of course there's some, but I mean, you know, the other bands, are there people that come up and show up to the shows or do people like, you know, the, the metal scene, is it all like clicks? Like the death metal bands stay with the death metal bands and the black metal bands stay with the black metal

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or because of your location and everything, does everybody kind of, you know,

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play together.

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It's like a melting pot of metal.

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It's absolutely like you said.

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People just stick in their clicks.

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That's unfortunate.

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We have that here.

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You know, you see festivals like Vaken where they've got power metal bands

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with the death metal bands with the black metal bands,

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and people go to see all of these things,

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and there's so much more varied in their tastes than we are here in America.

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I mean, I love all kinds of metal,

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So I'm not one of those purists that is like, I only listen to black metal. And so I like to encourage as many people as I can to try out different styles of music and not just get stuck in one subgenre and be like, that's all I like. Yeah. Well, would you say there's a scene? I mean, and bear in mind, I'm in the Bay Area. This is where Metallica and everybody cares. And there's not that much of a scene here anymore. You know what I mean? Like, it's not. It's a little in the neighborhood somewhere else.

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The scene? Or Metallica? Certain areas become... Isn't Manhattan just becoming a shithole now? Where it used to be a scene where all the cool people would hang out? Well, it's more like... There's a thing that happens in America where in all the major cities, there's just this sort of really homogenized... It's like a bunch of stores that are represented. Times Square used to have personality and now Times Square is just Old Navy and a certain pizza place and this and that. It's the same thing in San Francisco.

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That's phenomenal.

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was Ireland. And I have to tell you, Dublin, the place where they want the tourists to go or expect the tourists to go, is just like Manhattan. It's just like Fisherman's Wharf here. It's just all the same. It's these fucking ridiculous... Exactly. Oh, look, McDonald's. Exactly. I wonder if that's the same here. I don't think that bodes well for what it is for the music scene, too. And I agree with you, it's on a lot of levels. So I'm assuming you've got to work pretty hard to get some people into the shows, maybe. Yeah. I think what you said about

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What you said about genres sticking together, or sub-genres really, I think in some ways it's a bit of a safety thing. People are afraid of putting people off by offering something that might disinterest people. And it's not just the case of getting people down the show. It's a case of if people just turn up for one band and then they all leave for the next set. Because you don't want to be playing to know one, even if you do get the money off the door sales. I've done that. I'm in a band, Rhys, we were telling Jono before you got here,

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Our drummer is always telling me, why don't we go down to Los Angeles and we'll play some of these other places in the West Coast. And I always tell him, I always say, why would we want to drive five hours to play for nobody when we can play for nobody right here, my friend? Exactly. And I can't tell you how many shows we've played where there was like a full room and then the band before us played and then everybody left. You know what I mean? That is rough, yeah. Yeah, yeah. So, well, but are there other bands in your clique, if you will? Yeah, yeah, definitely.

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There's a growing scene. We're definitely getting a sense of community about it.

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Good. Bands you respect and like?

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Yeah, definitely. Which I was going to say before, a bunch of the albums I've been listening to have been local Melbourne bands last year.

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Drop some names on us, man. We'll check out anything. So if there's something we should be listening to, give us a hint.

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Who do you like? Holy Serpent.

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Okay, Holy Serpent. Look it up.

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They're Melbourne based, originally from New Zealand, but I think they formed in Melbourne.

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I think two of them are from New Zealand, yeah.

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Yeah, they kind of play a more, I guess it's more psychedelic, like stoner rock more than the metal side of things, but they do draw a metal crowd. And, um... There's a bit of a traditional Doom kind of vibe on there. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. Cool. They have a little presence online, so we can check them out. Yeah, you'll definitely find them, I'm pretty sure. Also, they did the East Coast. That's the main kind of touring spot for Australian bands, doing the East Coast. Melbourne, Canberra, Sydney, Queensland.

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And Wilderness, they put out a really good album as well. Wilderness. Wilderness. It's about Strange. I might have to look it up. It's like W-I-L-D-E-O-R-N-E-S. Okay, well, and it's Melbourne. I'll just pick Melbourne. You should check that out. They're really good. That's the band we played with in Ballarat. One of them brews beer, which is very good. Yeah, it exists. Really good. Yeah, we'll look it up.

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kind of stony metal meets sort of black metal kind of stuff. Nice. I reckon you guys would like it a lot. Yeah. It's like a homage to many great types of things. I'm looking it up right now. Cool. Yeah, we'll check it out. So have you guys been trying to get any label attention or has anybody been sniffing around or are you just kind of going to do your own thing and if it happens, it happens? Nobody's sniffing around from my knowledge. Well, they should be. I wouldn't play hardball with them if they were. Yeah.

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I've tried to approach a few labels but no luck so far. A lot of people don't take submissions these days. I've tried people who do or haven't stated a policy either way. Mostly just haven't received responses which is actually more common than people saying no thanks. Oh yeah, of course. Something might happen in the future. Or the next stuff, I don't know. The scene's weird, man. The scene is weird out there. I mean, I agree. Go ahead.

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There's so many bands in the world trying to get people to listen to their stuff. A lot of them might be alright, but most of them are not standout. And if they were, then that would just raise the bar and they'd be mediocre again by comparison. So that's just the way it has to be, unfortunately. Unless there was just a complete dearth of music happening at all and people were just trying out for anything. But that's really not the way. So I understand people are just too busy. Unless they have a recommendation from someone they respect, they're probably not going to give you the time of day.

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The Internet both revolutionized and completely ruined music. You know, I mean, it's sort of like now you can hear a million different bands at the tip of your fingers and that's wonderful. But on the other hand, you have to wade through a million fucking bands to get to something good. So, yeah. And so it's the same thing for the labels. The labels have to listen to so much shit before they get a chance to hear something like that. That was weird. So who came up with the name Roundtable and what inspired that? That was me.

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Is it Arthurian? Well, in a piece. It's made up of many different aspects that that word espouses. Either way, we're easy. Yeah. So what's next for you guys? Are you going to do some touring? Are you writing for something new? What's going on? At the moment, we're taking a little break and then we'll start practicing a lot.

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We're going to do an album launch. We're trying to get a record pressed on vinyl. Nice. There we go. Now we are talking boys. Are you guys vinyl fans? Yeah, definitely. Yeah, so are we. You're talking to three fanatics. Yeah, we'll definitely buy that. If you do a Kickstarter or anything like that, you need to get funded, just let us know. We'll pick it up. That's good. Cheers, man. We kind of already funded it out of our own pockets, but it's good to know. I think next time maybe it'd be good to do something like that. I guess it's just hard on the first time around.

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because people, if they haven't heard something yet, they have no reason to help.

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Well, I think of it.

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Sure.

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Well, hey, so.

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You want the music?

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If you ever just need a couple of bucks, let us know.

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Yep.

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Yep.

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Are you still there?

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Yeah, the video dropped out.

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Let's just turn the video off, it looks like.

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There you go.

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Yeah, the video on the way it goes.

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Oh, there you go.

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All right.

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Yeah, we'll definitely buy any vinyl.

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Yep, we definitely will.

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We'll be sure.

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It'll probably cost 40, 50 bucks to get it shipped here, but.

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It'll be worth it.

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Hopefully not that much.

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Do you guys have any merchandise yet?

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I was looking, I didn't see any. Really? Yeah, that's interesting. You should be able to. It's on our Bandcamp page. There's a header. If you click the merch button, it should take you to T-shirts. Maybe I overlooked it, but yeah, I wanted to try and get some merch. I will look again. I don't know if it's working properly, so that would be good enough. I'll look again. You know, I have a question for you that's a little strange. Well, maybe it's not, but I'm a guitar player myself, and I have a Les Paul, and there's this Les Paul website I used to go to. It's like a forum site. It was kind of annoying.

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in the end.

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And I would see guys on there from Australia who were like, that it was unreal to try to buy, in particular, Gibsons.

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But it sounded like a lot of imported musical equipment was really super expensive.

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Is that something that is true to form across the board?

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Yeah, it's true.

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It is true.

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But I mean, these days, it'd be even more expensive, maybe.

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Or maybe they're trying to cut down profits to increase sales, I don't know.

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The exchange rate is so bad now that you'd be crazy to buy anything from the US. That was the way you'd get around it sometimes. You'd order stuff from the US directly instead of buying from retailers. Which maybe in some ways helped to kill the retail industry here. It's the way it is though. If people are going to charge heaps for something when they don't really need to, then people are going to look elsewhere. One of the biggest guitar music stores in and around Melbourne was Allen's Music. They've had to reduce the amount of stores.

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I thought they closed down totally but then I went past it the other day.

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Yeah, yeah. So it's like, yeah, that whole, it was just too expensive and people were going elsewhere to, you know, get their instruments and whatnot.

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Yeah. Well, how did you, how did you get yours? How did you guys get what you have?

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You can get secondhand stuff here and occasionally get a good deal, you know, we've got a really good secondhand store in Melbourne and I'm pretty proficient with the classifieds and eBay and whatnot.

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I've ordered stuff in the US as well before, like preamps and stuff.

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Yeah.

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and apps do, but these days it's not very affordable. There's quite a bit of stuff floating around Australia that's all right. I would be going for the old Japanese guitars anyway over U.S. stuff. Wow, okay. I mean, no offense. No, I'm taking no. Why is that? I've never heard that said before. Oh, really? I don't know. It's a bit of a secret, I guess, but it's becoming less of one with people like me talking about it. I don't even know of any Japanese brands. Well, no, you know what it is, George, is that,

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And this may not be what you're talking about, so you'll have to chime in here. But like, for instance, the Gibson Epiphone line used to be made in Japan. Is that the kind of thing you're talking about? Like some of those, not necessarily Epiphone, but Japanese-made American brands? Yeah, there was a bit of that. But they also, you also got brands starting out of the same factories that would just kind of rip off classic styles and that. Oh, you'll counterfeit Les Paul. Oh, like Hondo. That was so good. Like Hondo John Custom.

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Yeah, my first guitar was a Hondo, which was I think probably Korean or something. And it was a copy of the Kramer Eddie Van Halen guitar. It was black instead of red, but it had the taped white lines on it and stuff. I know the ones you mean, yeah. But you've had good fortune there. And I mean, there are guys in America that do feel the same way about that. Like I know the guys that like, some of the companies now, unfortunately, a lot of the ones that

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that did produce in Japan are going to other places. So there are guys who are looking specifically for the Japanese, what I call the cheaper brand, you know, of the... Not just American guitars. I realize you're saying there's also Japanese brands, you know. Well, like Yamaha, I mean, Matt Vykes classic guitar was a Yamaha SG 2000. Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah, it's a double cut SG. It's a really fancy one. Sorry, SG's a double cut anyway, but, you know, it's like a Rolls Royce of SG's. Yeah. I've got a Yamaha too.

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I think Carlos Santana developed those with Yamaha in the 70s. Oh, is that right? Yeah. Yeah, they're really good. They were expensive then as well. Yeah. Now they're popular because people are getting onto it. Well, and the guys in Mastodon, I think Bill Kelleher plays one and like you said, Matt Pike plays one. I think that fucks that shit up bad because then it's like everybody wants one all of a sudden. Yeah, totally. I managed to get $1,500 pretty cheap. Now they're already sort of almost one and a half times the price I paid for it. Yeah, not cool. Now it's only two ago, you know? Yeah.

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In terms of acquiring instruments and whatnot, I'm kind of a diehard. I like going into the store where they're all brand new and just having a look and, you know, something about that feeling. Talking to the guy and, you know, saying, how much can you give this to me if I pay cash and stuff like that. Yeah. And then ultimately distracting the guy and running out with something. The old empty guitar case trick. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. I hear you. I'm a shopper myself.

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All right, well, if nobody has anything else, I see we get into a song. Yep. The first song we want to play today is Corpulent Warlord. Can you tell us anything about this one before we play it? It was the first real song that we put together cohesively. Kind of that main dominant riff was, yeah, definitely the centerpiece in which the rest of the song developed around. I think it sets the album off great, guys. I think you come right out barn burners just, you know, from then on, you know what you're into.

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442. It's their, I believe, in the corporate world, Buke, in the corporate world, it's known as a mission statement. Very well put, yes. Yes. All right, well, here it is. Here's their mission statement. Corpulent Warlord.

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The power washing is washing and veil, worn on the ruthless plan. Cutting out all the pale crusaders, swear on the infant king. Be crazy, the beast's not perfect, riot is the number one.

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The evil is lost to let boundless war

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He collects the bitter and corrupts

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Wielding anger like a tool Empowered by the might of Northern Koi His grip grows ever strong Their treachery comes as no surprise Still his rage ignites Overtime those who lie

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The fuck to his body gone?

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Rise for this party, us Through the coward of this king A road soiled man across this forest

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The falling-

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The clouds and rules of thunder Amidst a early storm of dust

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The dread warrior rides ahead

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As dry his iron blaze and steed

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Swings his neutral axolotl

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In his murderous strife

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ДИНАМИЧНАЯ МУЗЫКА

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All right, that was our interview with Roundtable from Australia, and that was the song Corpulent Warlord. Stick around to the end of the episode, and we'll play you another song from Roundtable. Before we get into the news, George, can I make a quick shout-out and say thanks to everybody who sent in a list for the website and who took the time? Small list, big. Anybody who retweeted our list, anybody who's continued to tell people about them. If you haven't, check out our list yet.

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And all of our listeners and artists who've done lists for us on the new, redesigned, wearemetalheads.com. All our lists are up there. Yep, check it out. It stands as proof, too, is the influence that you guys and we guys have on people. My very good friend, John, who's in Texas, who used to live here. I don't know if you guys noticed, but his number one band was Wilderun. Yeah, that made the... That was because of the show. It's a legit thing. John loves metal. John listens closely to metal. So that really stole his soul, and he wouldn't have known about it.

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That's a hat trick for Will to Run. I guess Will to Run's the best album ever made. There we go, John. I value his opinion, though, dude. I noticed that. That's it. I changed my top number one spot for the 2001 to 2015 list. It's Will to Run. Mark it. That's it. Fuck the rest of the list. I'm done. You're just going to be like, number one, Will to Run. Number two, Will to Run. Number three, Will to Run. And that's all I'm saying about it.

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But I noticed that Dan from Nine Circles just got on board. Now you get it, Jay. I got poked. Is it the time delay that you're not getting that one right away? Nope, that was the brain thing. Dan from Nine Circles has messaged me a couple times saying, dude, I'm sorry. I'm so sorry for not listening to this album sooner. It's an amazing album. It was on a lot of different lists on the Angry Metal Guy. Is that the name of the site?

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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. A number. Cause he's got a ton of reviewers there and it's on a number of lists on there, whether it be one or 10, a lot of people have it. So I'm surprised. I'm happy for them that a lot of people are recognizing it. We were starting to get feedback. I don't know if you saw today, George, uh, void asleep. Yes. I mentioned, uh, you and your top list. Yep. That's awesome. And now just by the way, since we're speaking about our top list, you guys kind of said, Oh my, cause my number one band was number one, uh, album of 2015 was clutch.

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Warfare and everyone was sort of like, ah, you know, I don't really consider them metal. But then didn't a couple of you have the Baroness album on, George? It was an honorable mention, but none of my honorable mentions were metal. Oh, okay. I just want to point that out. You know, you don't have to get butthurt about it. Just because I don't consider it metal doesn't mean you can't. My butt is extremely hurt. It's never felt so good. George, you may need to have a butthurt form to fill out. Anything you guys are thinking about, though?

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about the lists that you've listened to since then? Because I mentioned it online the past week or so. John had his fucking list to me is the one that I go back and kick myself in the ass for for not listening to more. I mean, I found a couple bands on Neutrino's list that I was like, oh yeah, and I think maybe Galen as well. Yeah, actually, I did at least one or two from Galen's list. I mean, you guys, I kind of knew everything already.

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I mean, there was a couple on, I think Buke had one that I didn't know, and John probably had one or two that I know he had, a couple I didn't know. I kind of took a moratorium. I just overdosed so much at the end, I just had to take a break. I just kind of agree. Yeah, it's kind of a miracle that we're actually doing this right now, as Buke can attest to. I'm usually so burned out between end-of-year lists and holidays that I take January off, because I'm like, I have to just cleanse my palate.

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Clear My Mind, and it's usually like mid-February before I can even do anything, because I'm just like, pfft. I can't agree more. Yeah. Are you going to pull it? Go ahead, sorry. Fuck that. The Abath record comes out here in about a week, so you better get your shit in gear, brother. Yep, yep. I'm so excited about that record. Yeah, we'll get to that. Well, before we... I'm going to say the same thing Buk did. Before we get into news, or rather, as the first news item, I don't have it on here, but Buk, why don't you talk about this phenomenon going on? Yes, thank you. There is a phenomenon happening

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on Twitter right now.

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And it's good whenever good things happen among metalheads in the metal world.

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I started seeing a bunch of tweets the past couple of days.

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And it was using a hashtag.

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And the hashtag is Metal Band Camp Gift Club.

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I'm thinking, the hell is that?

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Well, it was started by our friends Jeremiah and Manny O'War over at their bunch of Nine Circles guys. What this is, is basically to make a long story short, I interviewed Manny. You're here and here. It lasts three minutes. People around the world are using this hashtag, posting their Bandcamp usernames, and metalheads around the world are buying up people's wish lists for them. So really quick, I did an interview with Manny O'War for one of the Nine Circles guys.

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about the hashtag metal band camp gift club going on here it is hello this is buke from the metal heads podcast with a really quick interview i wanted to conduct because something beautiful in the world of metal uh is happening before uh my eyes on social media right now and that is the hashtag metal band camp gift club yeah you may be scratching your head what the hell is that well i'm joined by manio award uh of the nine circles

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guys.

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Manny,

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you're responsible for this glorious thing.

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Can you explain what the hell's happening?

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Sure.

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So I have a friend,

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Jeremiah,

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Jeremiah Nelson.

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He's on just a guy I know from Twitter.

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He randomly gifted me an album on my anniversary,

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which happens to be New Year's Eve.

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So I woke up in 2016 saying that this was going to be a year that I was a lot nicer.

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In general,

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Great resolution, right? So Jeremiah randomly sent me something off my wish list. I thanked him. We started using a hashtag, encouraging other people to follow people on Bandcamp, and it kind of took off. Yeah. Why I wanted to get you on real quick. This has, you know, we're always trying to find what's going to hit on social media. This was a trending hashtag, and it still is.

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Yeah, it doesn't happen with metal all the time, does it? No, no, not at all. Like, it takes somebody dying for it to happen. Yeah. So basically, what's happening now, if you want to, you know, a lot of us mentioned here on the podcast, George, Jay, and all the guys, make a wish list, put it out there on Twitter, and let's make 2016 a good year. Find somebody with a similar hashtag, find their wish list, buy them some metal.

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in that they say pay it forward with an album amen yes a lot of us have been uh like gifting

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our friends albums uh trying to push a bunch of independent content out there and uh help

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everybody get listened to exactly i just wanted to get you on air get you on record that you're doing

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something great uh and i i can't get behind enough because you know with our podcast with all with

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with everything you do for writing and everything. We all try and just spread the word of metal around. Amen. Again, follow you on Twitter. Manny, what's your Twitter again? It is at Manny O'War. Yes, at Manny O'War. And again, everybody use the hashtag Metal Band Camp Gift Club. Let's get that around. Let's just share some good metal going around. Amen. Manny, thanks for coming on really quick.

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Just take a couple minutes of your time. No problem. All right. That was my interview with Manny. Really short and sweet. I think it's something really cool going on right now in the metal world. If you're on Twitter and you see the hashtag, pick somebody at random and buy something for them. Put your stuff out there. How do you... Quick question about it. Is it associated with your birthday? Are you supposed to do this on the person's birthday or... Nope. It's just you just use it. You just put it out there. Kindness of strangers. Yeah. Just like a pay-it-forward thing. And that was the cool thing about me. It's just a cool...

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Pay It Forward. And more importantly, this also became a trending global hashtag topic. Yeah. Nothing in the metal world ever hits that fucking big. Yeah. I remember Greg sent us the hashtag. And I looked at it and I was like, okay. And I plugged in the hashtag to see what it was. And I saw people doing stuff. And I was like, whatever. But I had no idea it was actually somebody that we knew. Yeah. So that's kind of cool. And again, I've already received three or four albums.

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I bought temple for somebody. I sent tombs to Jeremiah. So it's a great thing going on in the metal world now. Let's get into some news. Let's. So the first news is one that we've been speculating about for a while,

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and we actually sort of confirmed it on a previous episode but it has now officially been announced that Guns N' Roses is doing a reunion at Coachella. Now a couple things about this. It's a money grab. It is and it's not even a full reunion. It's Axl, Slash, and Duff. Fuck it. And I'm like wow. Okay and it's at Coachella. Same response when I heard that. I was like fuck this. Yeah. And you know what's surprising? Eddie Trunk who has been championing these guys for years and when Axl was gone in

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I could say video game speak AFK for years. He randomly showed up at Eddie Trunk's studio one day and gave an interview. Eddie Trunk was like, I could fucking care less. It's a money grab. Not interested. Yeah, you know, I mean, Izzy's got to be there. And at the very least, Matt Sorum. I think especially Izzy, though, because the interplay of those two guitarists on that first record, like I'm one of the guys that kind of get out. I mean, Lies is on the fence for me as a bad record. I mean,

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The Real Deal.

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And I know other people like a couple of the later ones.

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But they are also shopping around, George, and I don't think this is a rumor,

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to do a 25-day stadium tour in the States.

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And they put a gross price tag on it from promoters.

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They're expecting something like $3 million a show.

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Yeah, they're only going to do baseball stadiums.

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Exactly.

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Which is like, all right, I'm out.

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Yeah, fuck that, dude.

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I'm not going to do that.

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Yeah, if you're not going to do the whole band and you're not going to play at a normal venue,

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fuck you.

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JCDC went just, or somebody asked me, did I want to go see Metallica because they're playing for the Super Bowl weekend? And no, I don't want to go see them. But they're playing AT&T Park. And I was like, fuck, then definitely not. And tickets were like $400. Which, by the way, tickets will be outrageous for these baseball shows. Count on it. Oh, yeah. You're not even guaranteed Axel's going to walk on stage. Exactly. Yeah, I saw that he was supposed to be on Jimmy Kimmel. And canceled at the last minute. It sounds a lot like when Van Halen got back together with Daily Raw.

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But not with Michael Anthony, with Wolfgang. And then they had to cancel it because no one could get along anymore. Yeah, that's a good point. So you guys saying in this podcast in a couple years, it's like, yeah, I'll fucking come on. John better not be there. I don't want to fucking see Jay. I'll hear him, but I don't want to fucking see him. We're taking different tour buses. Before we go on to the next topic, Will, John, what are you guys drinking now? I saw you grab another brew.

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Oh, we're on our third beer. Yeah, okay. What have you guys had so far since, you know, we do have listeners who want to know what we're drinking? Okay, so the first one was Love Buzz by Anchorage Brewing. It's in the book. It's in the Bible. It's in the Bible. Real Truth Guide to Extreme Beers. And then we had Big Hugs from Half Acre. Which is in Chicago. Just trying to get George and I to be happy to one another. Love Buzz. Yeah, Love Buzz and Big Hugs. Yeah, Love Buzz.

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If somebody takes her shirt off, we're going to have to close that video now. Oh my gosh! I showed some boobie. And then what's the third one we're having? So Love Buzz was like a sour saison. Big Hugs is a Russian Imperial style, I think, with coffee in it. I think so, yes. And then now we are drinking La Roja by Jolly Pumpkin, which I think is in Michigan. Yes. Yeah.

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It's a sour amber. All three of these beers are in the Bible. So John and I have been waiting to get together to share these beers. And we were also waiting for Jen, John's life partner, I guess, who's standing right over there playing with a cat and waving to us as we speak. Because she helped acquire some of these beers on her travel. We had to wait until the three of us got together to drink some of these. And then we have a couple other interesting ones for later.

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Can you talk about something I saw on Facebook yesterday? A quick side note that was another really positive for a sad situation. You took part in what looked like a huge collaboration brew to benefit one of your owner's wives. Yeah, so down here in Northern Virginia, our brewery, Fairwinds, is in Lorton, Virginia, and literally a mile away is Forge

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And the two owners of Forge Brew Works is Matt and Curry Rose. Curry just was diagnosed a few months ago with stage four stomach cancer and was pregnant after trying to get pregnant for years. She finally got pregnant and then was suddenly diagnosed with stage four stomach cancer. So she had to give early delivery to their son Lance, who is now who was in the ICU for a long time, but is now a healthy baby boy. And I held that kid for a long time.

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So all the brewers, literally 20 breweries in Northern Virginia all converged on our brewery yesterday, not yesterday, on Thursday. So on the January 7th to do a collaboration brew called Curie's Cure. And all the money is going to, so all the beer that we brew at our brewery, Fairwinds, is going to be distributed to all the 20 participating breweries. And then every proceed from all the sales of all that beer is going back to help out with medical bills, to help Curry,

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get better from stage four stomach cancer. So it was such a great cause because Curry is one of the nicest human beings in the world. I love her. Her husband, Matt, is a great dude. He's been a friend of mine forever. He helps us out. We help him out as brewers. And there was probably 60 different brewers in that building yesterday. Just basically doing the collaboration. We actually brewed the beer, collaboration beer, but just the camaraderie and everyone.

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One there to support Curry. And we may have possibly made or broke a Guinness Book of World Records for the most breweries involved in a collaboration brew on the same day who physically showed up. Cool, dude. Try and get that un-fucking-tap badge, asshole. Try and get it. Yeah. What kind of beer is it, Will? What kind of beer is it? It's a Belgian pale ale. So it was designed, so the recipe was pretty much designed for the most part by the head brewer at our brewery, Charlie, and then Matt.

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Matt Rose who's Curry's husband. Matt's brewery, Forge Brew Works in Lorton, is very much a Belgian Ford Brewer, Belgian-focused brewery. I'm a Kickstarter backer for them. Yeah, and there is a, so if anyone is listening, there's a GoFundMe. Yes, that's another reason why I wanted to get this out. There is a GoFundMe page for it. I think it's GoFundMe Daywalker is the name of the GoFundMe site to give money. I say this with wholehearted, she is one of the nicest human beings who ever met in my life. Just such a

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classy woman and just gave birth to an absolutely beautiful little baby boy. How's she doing? She's healthy. What's that? How's she doing Will? She as we speak she's in the intensive care unit. Okay. I'll leave it at that. So fingers crossed. Horns up to Curry. Go to GoFundMe site. And I think it's the 29th right? It comes out? Yeah so the beer comes out in northern Virginia on the 29th of January. So you can go to any of the breweries and you have to pretty much go on the 29th because we're

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that each brewery gets either two or three kegs of the beer and it's going to be gone in a couple hours as it should be so anybody here in the dc area go out and get that i know this is a heavy metal podcast but you know we are humans and we all you know well if you want a heavy metal connection to it um we did play a lot of yesterday we did play a lot of motorhead there was actually requests for motorheads and i swear to god half the brewers in this area love metal it's so great and you guys all look the fucking same too it's like chocolate and peanut butter man it just goes yeah except for will he's

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who didn't have a beard. Yeah, I don't have a beard. I'm not super robust. And my hair is short. But we play a lot of Motorhead. We played some King Giant yesterday. We played some Graveyard because one of the brewers is a huge Graveyard fan, aside from me. So we did play metal while we were brewing a beer yesterday. There's your heavy metal connection. All right. Well, I wanted to mention it more importantly because you're part of this pod. I thought it was something cool that you did. That's definitely. That's the heavy metal connection.

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That's the heavy metal connection. That you're part of this. Well, knock on wood, and we'll all be certainly thinking good thoughts for this very nice sounding woman, man. So it was cool that you got involved in that. Let's bang out the rest of this news, because we got some lists to be doing. So first off, Borknogger released a video for the title track of their new album, Winter Thrice. And it's a pretty cool video. And this song is the first time that they've brought together all four singers.

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of Borknaguer in one song. And it's pretty fucking cool. I mean, you know, they've got, they brought back the original singer Garm and they've got ICS Vortex, who's one of the current main singers and Vinter Sorg, another of the main singers. And then there's another guy that I don't know who he is. He's like a back, one of the other guys that sings in the band. And, but it's pretty fucking cool. And I'm sorry, George, I'm laughing my ass off. I know, I'm watching you going, what is his deal?

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You know, I knew this news I was coming up when I checked it out. You know, it's a black metal band. I've never heard it pronounced before when you said Borknogger. The first thing I thought of is like, so is that like a variation of a dirty sand shit? He gave him the old Borknogger. Hey, so I was hanging out with my wife last night and gave him the old Borknogger. Let's just feed his shaft, a Borknogger. Bork, Bork, Borknogger.

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I don't know if that's how you pronounce it. If it's Borknagar or Borknager, who knows? I would probably say Borknagar, Borknager. Yeah, I've heard it all different ways. I have no idea what the correct pronunciation is. But anyway, you should give it a listen. It's pretty cool. I'm excited for the album. Yeah, it's a really good record, actually. George and I, have you listened to the whole record, George? I have. Yeah, it's sort of amorphous meets Arcturus meets, you know, maybe,

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Maybe a little enslaved in there. It's a good record, dude. I like it quite a bit. When I listen to it, I turn it right around and put it back on again. Yeah, I mean, you know, ICS Vortex from Arcturus is the singer, so. Yeah, yeah. I thought it was all right. I didn't give it enough time, but yeah, it's cool. Why can nobody say from Dimu? Am I the only one who associates him with Dimu? Oh, he was the bass player in Dimu, though. Yeah, am I the only one who associates him? No, that was my, well, one of my original places that I knew him. I think I knew him from Bork Nager first.

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I'm going to crack up every time I say that. Bork, bork, bork, bork, bork, bork, borknogger. All right. You don't want to know what a borknogger means. I don't know what you two are doing under the table right now. You know

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All right, moving on. Voivod is releasing a new EP on February 26th called Post Society. I'm kind of bummed it's only an EP, but I'll take it. I like a new era Voivod myself. Are they still Piggy Riffs? Or are they done with those? No, they're done with that. They've got a new guy who's doing his own thing. Is Jason Newstead still with him? No, I know he's not. He does a good Piggy though. He does? Yeah.

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The Way John Morris writes in the style of Ritchie Blackmore, it's like that. It's a legitimate nod in the right direction. Cool. All right. Now, I know Buke will like this one. The Flesh God Apocalypse is also streaming a new song called The Fool from their forthcoming album, King, which, god damn, this album is fucking amazing. I don't know if anybody else here has listened to it yet, but Buke asked me to snag the promo if we got it, so I threw it in there.

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And this is the band's fourth album. Yeah, I was just looking up actually. And I was a fan of their first album. I don't remember the name of it now. Their second album, Agony. And I was like, yeah, I liked it because it was really brutal death metal. Very. Not in the brutal violence sense, but just punishing metal, but also very clean and technical so it wasn't just noise. And so that was my go-to band for fucking pissed off driving music for a while.

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But then after Agony, I stopped listening to them, not because of anything they did. My tastes just sort of changed that I'm like, I'm not really into, you know, plain old death metal anymore. And so when Labyrinth came out, I didn't listen to it. And I have since corrected that because I was curious because the new album, King, is so different than what I know them. Tell me about what you told me yesterday, the one track. I will. I'll get to that. You know, before they were just, you know, like blast beats and just...

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It was just fucking heavy death metal. And so I went back and I listened to Labyrinth, and there is actually a transition from Agony to King. On Labyrinth, they started adding some epic keyboards, sort of orchestral kind of stuff. And I was like, all right. And there were some female vocals on there. And I was like, all right. It still wasn't what I would call really my thing. It's pretty good. Definitely a little different than Agony.

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But King, oh my god. It's like somebody took technical death metal and mashed it together with symphonic black metal and opera. It almost has a weird, and I haven't downloaded the record, I only listened to this song. I didn't realize it was in the box. But it's almost got a little, and take this with a grain of salt, palpable sense of humor to it, like an Arcturus record. It's minor, but it's there and it works. I don't mean it's not parody by any strange sense.

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Yeah.

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Are these guys?

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He's got, they're from Italy?

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Italy.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, I have the Agony record.

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What are you talking about?

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And I talk, I listen to the new song, The Fool.

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I liked it, but it is, it's a slight departure from, I think the last thing I listened

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to was the Agony.

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Yeah.

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So it's definitely different.

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It's different.

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I threw it on, not expecting to get through it.

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And I was like, oh, there's like this orchestral thing going on in the background that gives

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it this really big sound.

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I like that. And then there was clean vocals. Like clean male vocals. And I was like, wait, am I on the right album? I was like, Flesh God Apocalypse doesn't have clean vocals. Isn't it great when you have that moment listening to something, you're like, what? Yeah. Am I in the right place? Am I supposed to be here? Is a Borknogger supposed to be happening now? Wait, who does it? Do I do it? Do you do it? I feel like Borknogger could be a running show. Exactly. And John's done a couple Borknoggers.

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Back in his day. And then. Goddamn right I did. You got that. And then I continue listening to the album. And there is a whole track. It is an opera track. Straight up opera. There is piano and a woman opera singer. She's just singing. I think she's singing in German. How long is it? Let me ask you this. Is that a good thing? It's an interesting thing. Wait. An opera singer from Italy singing in German? It sounded like German. I could be wrong. I don't know either language.

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Which is, if you think about an opera, I always think of Italy, for whatever reasons. Yeah, you would think it would be in Italian. It sounded German to me, though, based on the title. Maybe she was speaking Borknogger. I'm sorry. What John just said is hilarious. It probably was Italian. No, I don't think so. No, not necessarily, dude. Was it the Saba Floita in Magic Flute? It reminds me of the scene in Amadeus, if you've ever seen that movie, where they argue about which language to set operas in.

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Yeah, I know. The track is called Paramore, and then in parentheses, it's Die Leidenschaft Brinkt Leiden. So that sounds German to me. That's as Italian as it gets, George. Hold on, wait. Is this? Hold on, wait for a second. The Leidenschaft. Jay, is this that band that George was turning us on to last year, towards the end of the year? Yeah, the Ultraclass. Is this that stellar master elite? Yes. Is this more your propaganda music, George?

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You have figured me out. All he did was change the image in the box. He just swapped it out. That's exactly what this is. George, can you please just let that message die? We're not going to die. That's not bad. Call it Supreme Master Elite or something. That is the song. What the Wild Wild Water Sports is coming out of your phone just now?

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I'm telling you, man. German opera. But the thing is, German's not a pretty language for opera, though. No, but it's metal. That's what makes it metal. So yeah, all I'm saying is that right now, okay, I've only heard two or three albums from this year, but right now, that's number one. You heard it here. Out of the year. Yeah, that's right now. That's my album of the year in January, the first week of January, because this album blows my mind. It is so good. It does stand to reason.

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First phrase blows. It does stand to reason that the first record you hear in 2016 is indeed your number one record of the year. It's only for a limited time. Yep. All right, moving on. A man in Madison, Wisconsin was arrested when he threw a beer bottle at a bartender who changed Black Sabbath music over to Christmas music. I like this guy. I was born in Madison. Yeah, yeah, in front of yours. My hometown, yeah. No, but they do like their beer there. When did you get out of jail?

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Yeah, when did you get out of jail, Jake? What are you doing here? And Abbott is also streaming a new song from his album. This one's called Ashes of the Damned. I know Jay's heard it. Get on board, man. I'm telling you, not you, George, because I know you've heard it too, but everything I've heard off this record I've liked so far, including, by the way, I forgot to mention that if you get a chance, you should seek out his cover of Judas Priest's Riding on the Wind, which is on the B-side of one of these advanced singles that came out, and it is fucking great. Nice. Yeah, it's really good.

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Really good. All right. Megadeth is also streaming a new track, the title track from Dystopia. You know, we've been going back and forth on this. Did anybody else listen to it? I did. I pre-ordered Megadeth on almost a dare. No, don't make that up. I'm telling you, I will buy this album for Chris Adler alone. No dare needed. What did you say, Jay? I don't think you need to. I'm in no hurry. Did you hear this song before or after you pre-ordered, Will? Well, you pre-order it, and then you're going to

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And they kind of like this last Slayer album. Every few weeks they drop a new track. Which I hate in a way because by the time you hear the album you're already tired of those tracks. And when you try to listen to the whole album as a whole you're like skip, skip, skip. And it kind of ruins the album experience in a way. But yes, I did listen to the Dystopia song several times and I found it like it was a boring song that I think they just phoned it in. It just seems like there's no riffs in it.

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It was just why of the other two songs it released were much better than this one, which is not saying a whole lot. But the song was not interesting to me at all. It just sounded like they were phoning it in. Wow. And it's all over my dreams. I was about to say how I thought this was the awesome song that made the album. I wasn't actually. But actually, George, while we're on this, first of all, I'm not interested in the new Megadeth at all based on everything I've heard. Last bit of news.

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Slash is going to be featured on the first episode of Sam Dunn's Metal Journeys on Banger TV. Apparently Sam Dunn, who is like my favorite metal filmmaker, possibly the only metal filmmaker. I was going to say he's in the only one. I really love everything he does. And he's basically going to be doing different, I guess like different areas around the world. He's going to be traveling around the world and talking to different people about like metal in different areas. And the first episode is LA and it's Slash.

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I'm like I'll definitely check it out. I'm assuming that this is not on VH1 that this is like maybe on their YouTube channel on BangerTV. I'm not exactly sure. It's actually out George unless it was just a condensed version. I watched it and it I was under the impression it was the full episode and they're not terribly long. Okay. And basically he interviews him at this one of his haunted house that slash help design at Universal Studios. Okay. Yeah. And I'll leave it at that. But you know what I mean.

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Slash is just kind of an interesting guy to listen to anyway. I think he's a pretty down-to-earth, pretty nice guy. Yeah. So it's an interesting interview. I mean, it really is just an interview where maybe you talk a little bit more about. I'm trying to think of. I mean, it's a little more laid back and a little more like. It just felt like a nice little honest interview to me. Yeah. It's online. It's online. You can watch it online. And I apologize because I'm not entirely sure if this was supposed to be a teaser clip or if it was the whole episode. But I'm pretty sure it was the whole episode because it starts with Sam Dunn saying this is our first episode of blah, blah, blah. So. All right. Well, check it out.

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I'm going to. Yeah, it's worth watching. I enjoyed it.

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So some new releases coming out. The first one is Baroness's Purple. Just hitting that because it came out after our last episode. Check that out. I like it. I like it. It's pretty good. It continues there. They've been getting better with every album. Yeah. They've been getting more poppy with every album. They have. Yeah, certainly. They really have.

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But it's still kind of cool. It's too bad Buke doesn't like Doom anymore. He's kind of gotten off the Doom train because there's a new Morning Beloved album called Rust and Bone. It just came out the first week of January and I picked that up. It's kind of curious because there's some clean vocals which I don't recall there being before. Go ahead to Spotify. But it's still heavy and got harsh vocals and stuff. There's some acoustic guitar interludes. So check it out.

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Then there's The Lion's Daughter and Existence's Horror. Buke brought this one to my attention the other day. I've only listened to one song so far. The album just came out yesterday. It's kind of a sludgy black metal kind of thing produced by the guy who produced the Tombs record. There's also a new EP from Aborted coming out called Termination Redux. I haven't heard anything off that yet. The new Witchcraft album, Nucleus, is also dropping at the end of next week.

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I listened to it and it's the record of theirs that I have liked the most in a while. It's actually really good. And they are introducing me a little flute in this. It's like a scary Jethro Tull record. Yeah, you're telling me that. It's a slightly more modern, they've engaged slightly more modern amplifiers, but not so that they've lost their retro. It's good. This will be a record that is going to probably spend with me for a while. Excellent. Yeah, it's good. You're going to like it a lot. It's called Rust and Bone. May not be on there yet. And the last new release, I haven't heard this yet.

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It's not actually releasing until the Friday, but that'll be before this comes out, is the Lycus album Chasms. And I believe their last album was called Tempest. And I really like that a lot. It's kind of funeral doomy and good stuff. Yeah, I checked it out. I guess the pre-order or whatever you can listen to. And it's very much like atmospheric funeral doom. Yeah, yeah. I remember liking the last one a lot. So I've got it on my Bandcamp wish list. All right. So what we're going to do here is normally we'd get into

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our top list. But we're going to flip that around now so we can do that last. So, gentlemen, what are you listening to?

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Let's start with you, John. You want me to go? You know, since Buke gave us this albatross of a list, which it started out so easy and became unbelievably hard at the end. So it's just a boatload of albums, but just some ones that stood out. There's this new one I found from a band in Canada called Blackwood Exodus. It's instrumental. It's a short one, only about 30 some minutes. You know, there's a boatload of post-rock and post-metal bands and instrumental stuff. This is more kind of just hard rock and metal. I dug that.

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One that I dug out I haven't listened to in a while and I know this will make George happy is Monotheist from Celtic Frost. Get that right. It's just a fucking badass album. It is. And then I actually got an album on this new campaign that you've been talking about and I'm going to mess this name up so I'm going to buk-ize it here in a second. But it's Messardum I think is the name. Are you stupid? Yes, I'm very stupid.

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from our friend in Nova Scotia, and I'm drawing a blank. Greg. Greg, yeah. He sent it to me. How awesome is that? That's awesome. He's in Fredericton. Yes. I didn't expect it to come. It was very cool, and I thank him for that. And then just a bunch of other shit that we'll talk about in our top list. So I'll leave it at that, and I won't say any more. All right. Will? Inside joke. Inside joke. What am I listening to?

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I think I'm the only person on the year-end list who did not list alkaloid. I've been trying to listen to alkaloid a lot lately. And I like it. It would never make my year-end list at this point. I can't. Yeah, I can't. It's 2016. Sorry. That was signed, sealed, and shipped. A man of his word. I'll list you a bunch of records that'll never be on my 2015 list. Cattle Decapication won't make mine.

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What else you got? Obviously, at the brewery, I've been listening to a metric fuckton of Motorhead. I have been listening to the new roundtable that we're featuring here on this podcast. Interestingly enough, I made friends with the former drummer of Black Dahlia Murder recently and had dinner with him. I've never really been... Not like I disliked Black Dahlia Murder. I just never really listened to him or gave him a chance. Because you don't talk to me. That's interesting because this guy,

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I used to be in All That Remains, Black Valley Murder, and Battlecross.

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I love Battlecross.

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All That Remains, I could take it or leave it, mostly leave it.

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I saw Black Valley Murder in concert one time.

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I was like, man, they really smoked it.

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Like, huh?

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Smoked it, huh?

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It wasn't me that said that.

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That's a Johnism.

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Yeah, Johnism.

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So I started listening to Black Valley Murder a lot more.

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I was like, yeah, why am I not liking, why didn't I not like this earlier?

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And then what's really interesting is so after I got pressured by Buke to get on Spotify, which I'm so glad I did now, I went back for some reason. We were at the brewery the other day and I put on Twisted Sister Stay Hungry. Hell yeah. Good man. And I will say, and I loved that album when I was, I think I was 13, I was like 7th or 8th grade, I was like 13 or 14. And I was obsessed with the album. The picture of Dee Snider with the, like in a weird hair or like in a prison cell with a big bone in his mouth or something like that. It's weird because it's actually,

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It's a harder album than I remember. Yeah. They're a heavier band than anybody remembers. They're a super heavy band. Yeah. Sorry. One of these Halloweens, I'm going to get a wig and I'm going to beat Dee Snider for Halloween because he's my hero. Just a plus size Dee Snider. Well, we'll see. You saw him pull off Tom Warrior last year. Hell yeah, man. I made a Dee Snider pumpkin one year when I was in high school. But be careful with that wig because you could also turn out to be Bette Midler, dude. Oh, no.

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I'll just say it choose carefully. Need I more inspiration to get in shape this year? I need to look through the wing beneath my wings. That's right. Oh, Bat Midler! Bat's a killer, dude. Because, like, as George's wife quickly pointed out, when he did do Tom Warrior last year, he did look like the old lady from The Goonies. Yep. I posted that picture on Facebook. Tom Warrior plus old lady from Goonies equals me.

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All right, Will, you got any more? Are we moving on to... Much respect for Stay Hungry. Well, that's a heavy record. Burning Hell is on there. Captain Howdy, that's a heavy fucking record, dude. Yeah, man. SMF, The Beast. Good record. I am listening to... I'll list mine pretty quick here. Borknagr. That's a good record. I'm into that. The Witchcraft, I've spun a couple... I'm enjoying that. Not unlike John, a bunch of stuff that's on my list, so I probably better stay quiet on that. I can't get that Arcturus out of my MP3 player, so that's still rolling.

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And like everybody else,

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rolling a lot of motorhead kind of,

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I would almost say every other record is a motorhead record dying off a little bit now,

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but,

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but ever since let me die,

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that's been going in a lot.

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So yeah.

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One second.

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I'm going to not try and butcher the spelling of this.

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Cause this would be wrong for my friend.

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Annunciation will be horrible.

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Again.

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I wanted to bow and go on record again and say,

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John,

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I bow to you for 2015.

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Your list was on fire.

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Good,

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good,

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Sir. John's number three pick, which I've been listening to a lot, Amiensus.

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Amiensus?

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Amiensus, however you say it. Their album, Ascension, right up my fucking alley, 100%.

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I absolutely love that album.

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John, that album's amazing. But you know, I didn't expect much. I thought it was a little, you know, middle of the road. And then those clean vocals hit right there, like a minute into it. Changed me on the whole album.

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Yeah, it's a great album.

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Totally amazing album. Forgive me, there was another one that I mentioned to you earlier in the week, us texting back and forth. I'm drawing a blank on what it is right now. Oh, you were talking about intervals. That's it. Yes. Yes. Another great one. And I'm going to go on record again. No, sorry. I'm going to go on record for the first time and say I'm now excited for Maryland Death Fest. That's right. Because I have made a playlist and I've been going through listening to some of the bands we will be seeing at the Edison lot. And I'm listening to a little Hellbringer, their Dominion of Darkness.

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This album, Destroyer 666. Destroyer 666. I posted this on Instagram when my friend Sasha from Australia turned me on. Demonical. I told you about this, guys. Death Infernal. Yeah, I like Demonical quite a bit. I think I have their first two albums or their first album. They're great. Classic death metal sound. No, it's good stuff. How do you pronounce that? Atrophy. Atrophy. Hey, I have a question. I don't think the atrophy that

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You posted the same actor fee from the 80s, 90s. I think it's a different band. Oh. Oh. Oh. This is who I've been listening to. Well, they're great. These guys are great. Whoever they are. Whoever these fucking guys are. This is their self-title. Is the band from the 80s and 90s the one that's going to be on Death Fest? Don't know. I don't think so because I saw Twitter or whatever or Facebook Messenger post and I looked it up and I don't think that's the same band.

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Okay. And one more I wanted to call out. Probably I'm most excited for that I found recently. Wombath. Oh, yeah. Dude, F you. I told you about Wombath. I know. I know. They sound like Opeth. They do. I know. I know. At least now we can stop listening to him talk about how much he's not going to enjoy being at Death Fest. But now I can finally enjoy being at Death Fest. Okay. Sounds like Will's getting a Borgnogger from... Yeah. He's a Borgnogger, me. Yeah. Yeah, you're going to fucking Borgnogger.

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Are you borknogging or are you just happy to see me? Hey, Buk, have you listened to Ode to Sun at all? He's not digging it just yet. I'm not digging it just yet. You know what? And I want to get along with that. It's not striking me the way it does the rest of you guys. It's weird because the first was really cool, but the thing I like about Opeth, and when I say Opeth, they hit so many different genres. These guys, when they bounce from style to style,

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It seems to be so extreme. This is way more work. I agree with you on that. You've got to put a lot of time in to get where you're going. I like the first track, John, but then the second track on their most recent album is really, it goes from left field all the way to right field. Talking about Machine Horizon, the second song? Yes. Okay. Hey, you gave it a spin. I'm not nixing it. I'm not borknogging it yet. I'm going to tell you something right now, man.

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better have Borknogger on our final 25 for 2016. And it better be won. I will learn to love black metal. Okay, George, what do you got, buddy? All right. First one is one we already mentioned is the new Morning Beloved Rust and Bone. Second one is one that I think Buke would like. As part of my palate cleansing, I picked these guys up on Bandcamp about a week ago. It was a band called Terminus and the Reaper's Spiral. And it's kind of a traditional metal.

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with a little bit of power metal. The vocals are clean, but they're not operatic power metal, so that's why I consider it more traditional. It's just kind of a cool album. Next is a band called A Swarm of the Sun and their album The Rifts, which is a lot of instrumental stuff. There are vocals, but it's kind of proggy, but I really don't know what else we'd call it. It's heavy, but it's got a lot of instrumental cool shit going on.

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Sounds like I need to check it out. I was thinking it was something that you would like. Yeah. Cool. Hey, George, is that R-I-F-T or R-I-F-F? Rifts, as in with a T. Okay. The Rifts. And last one is the new album from Turbid North, Eyes Alive. Ooh, I like those guys. I have their previous album. I didn't know they had a new one out. Yep, just came out sometime last month, I think. Cool, thank you. Actually, it might have been September. But yeah, it's the last couple of months. And yeah, it's good stuff. So check that out.

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Let's move on to our classic album.

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John.

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I'm pulling one from the 70s.

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Whoa.

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Yeah, it's old.

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But I think we all accept it as hard rock and metal, and it's Rainbow's Long Live Rock and Roll.

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Hell yeah.

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I absolutely love it.

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I held my breath for a second.

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I was hoping Rising was coming.

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What were you hoping for? I was hoping for Rising. I love them both. That's the one that happened to fall on the player for the week. I was listening to Rising a couple weeks ago. I'm just loving it. Can't complain. Have I ever told you who the greatest frontman is? I was going to roll into it. Have I ever told you how good Rising is of an album? They're both awesome. It's got Kill the King on it. It's got Gates of Babylon which is such a good song. The drums on that track alone, Jay, are just amazing.

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What's your classic, Will? I've been listening to a lot of the Black Sabbath. So we're talking about classic, classic. Black Sabbath, Mob Rules, actually. Yes. More deal on it. Fuck yeah. And I have to credit Ariel Lopez, who's a local guy who comes all. Every concert I've ever been to and every metal show or heavy metal night that I host at a brewery, he's always there. He's a good friend of mine. I've seen it. Phenomenal dude. And every time we have a heavy metal night, he requests Mob Rules in total.

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So I've been listening to a lot lately. It's a great album. It's a phenomenal album. Love it. I think we all have. I've got an autographed copy of the vinyl hanging on the bar. I don't think any of us would say that that's a bad one. Who autographed? A Buke? All of them. The lady at the store. Hey Buke, how many of us can actually say they remember when it came out in the store for the first time? One of us wasn't even bugged, man. Yeah, and was actually at that tour.

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I remember and I know it has one of our mutual favorite

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Dio songs on it which is Sign of the Southern Cross

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which you mentioned we should name a beer after

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which is a possibility

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and that was exactly why Will

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I was listening to that record and I was like

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god there needs to be a beer called this

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cool glad you remember

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a lot of the old ancient mariners

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another song

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they use the

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stars to navigate

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which is nautical, which means the brewery I work at can possibly use it as a name. And it's a Sabbath and not Crosby, Stills, and Nash. That's right, yeah. What do you got, Jay? I got Honor Lemmy. And I went post Ace of Spades, which everybody loved. And then they kind of took a smile to step down, stripped down the production, and made a record a lot of people kind of don't talk about, which is Iron Fist. Iron Fist is a great fucking record. Jay, I just listened to that the other night. Fucking great record. Don't Need Religion is on there.

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Don't Let Them Grind You Down. There's so many good songs on there. Last tune, Remember I'm Gone. That's right. It's the last original three record, too, with Fast Eddie. How scary is that? Fast Eddie's the last one left of those three. We're going to have to just start calling him Eddie. Or Slow Eddie. We're going to have to start playing Fastway pretty soon. I got the reissue of this on vinyl about maybe two months ago. They did some really nice Motorhead remastered vinyl stuff.

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I got that too. Yeah, it's a good one. It's a good one. Duke. Yep, going back, listening to my classic death metal was turned back onto an album I found years ago when I first found Bloodbath. This is the album Cursed by Morgoth. Just a classic German death metal album. It has a really Swedish death metal sound. It has a little American obituary in the vocals a little bit. Which is a good thing. Well, that's neither here nor there.

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It's a really cool album. The first track, Cursed, into Body Count. I love the opening of this album. Right on. My classic has taken us back to 1985. This is one of the early metal blade bands that I got into. This is Tyrant and Legions of the Dead. I remember it. I had it. John, was that good or bad? I heard a little whimper. No, no. Anytime we go back that far, it's good. Okay. I was expecting.

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He was thinking about his girlfriend in the fourth grade. John was like, uh... That'd be like when he was a senior in high school. Yeah, let's amp that up a little further. I was expecting crickets on that one. Yeah, but I'm saying, John, your girlfriend was in the fourth grade. John was getting his master's then. Not in fourth grade, she was in sixth. He's honest. All right.

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Vinyl Purchases!

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Mitch Buke, for the record, they are the early 90s stuff. So that stuff I still like a lot. And obviously the big one for me was the Opeth, Deliverance and Damnation. I got everything on that, all versions of it. So that's it. Did you have anything, Will? Well, yes and no. I don't have any vinyl purchases because I don't have a record player because I have two kids who would destroy it. My son can literally destroy a DVD. Good man. Just imagine what he would do to a record. Sure.

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some digital purchases.

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Let it rock.

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I did buy the round table recently,

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Dead Marches Under the Bloodied Regalia.

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I did pre-order the Megadeth and Anthrax.

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The Megadeth, like I said earlier,

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I think I did it on a dare,

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just like because the last one was so horrific.

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Just cancel that credit card.

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I know, I know.

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But literally just hours ago,

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I was scrolling through iTunes new releases,

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And I got about a third of the way through it. And I just saw the name of this band called Pile of Priests. And I'm like, I need to check this out. I think I sent them to you on Spotify. You did. Sent to me on Spotify? Yes. They're still all of us, I think. I think it's everybody. You probably didn't missed it in the ongoing stream of posts going through there. It's okay. You have kids. You're not really plugged into social media. Was it sent on Spotify or was it spent on the Facebook Messenger?

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I have music from now on for you, Will. I would directly send it to you on Spotify. Just send it to me. Call me. Just call me. Okay. I love hearing your sweet voice. Yes. Apala Priest, it's a void of enlightenment. It's not the most well-produced thing, but it's good death metal that I listened to the entire way driving over John's house for 20 minutes, and I'm really digging it. I like it. Cool. Right on. Jay. I had a record store in Tucson.

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It used to be the most amazing record store. They closed for a few years. I was there for the holidays. Amazing. Amazing Salmon. And long story short, they reopened, and not the amazing place it used to be, but I did get a bunch of what we'll call classic rock metal stuff, all original releases, so I'll just list them fast. I got the first Michael Schenker Group album. I got Unleashed in the East, which I didn't have. I got the first Rainbow record, which I didn't have, Perfect Strangers. Deep Purple Made in Europe, which is really good.

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I got Saxon Stronger by the Law, UFO, this was the ones I was most happy about, I got No Heavy Pet and Enforce It, I got Thin Lizzy's Bad Reputation, and I got Van Halen Diver Down, only other Van Halen record I really like other than Fair Warning, and that was like $40, by the way, for all those records. Nice. Yeah, big score. Wow. Is that a yard sale or something? No, it was called PDQ Records in Tucson, and they were all like, you know, $4 to $6. Most of the covers were in pretty rough shape, but all the vinyl was pristine. Nice.

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Yeah, it was a nice little package to carry home under my arm on the plane. Duke. Hold on, I'm pulling up my collection right here. Oh, also, and the vinyl copy of Swallow the Sun showed up, so I've got that, too. And that alone is like 47 records. Yeah. It's a lot of vinyl. Like, how many literally physical records is it? It's five. Is it really? Five records, yeah. That was three albums on five records. Three albums on five records, yeah. That was three UPS deliveries? Two of the records are on. Yeah. Two of the records are on.

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on two vinyls and one of the albums fits on one single vinyl. And it also came with the nice CDs and stuff. Nice packaging. Shipping and handling, $75, $25. I don't remember what it was, George. I think it was $60 or something. Wow! $60 for shipping and handling? Oh, no, no, no. I mean, the record itself. But, I mean, you ordered it, George, didn't you? Yeah, it actually came from outer space, Will. Came from the space station. Actually, there won't be a lot of records coming out for a couple months because they used all the vinyls. Yeah.

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No more final left on planet Earth. It's a shame. Buke, you got anything? Yes, I have. Since the last pod, I have been a naughty boy. I've done a little borknoggering at the record store. That's the spirit. I have picked up on Jay's recommendation, Chemist, Absolution. Yeah, that's a great album. I picked up Crowbar. And by Jay, you mean Will. Well, whoever, everybody. No, that was not me. That was me. I thought that was Jay's. Chemist? No, that was me. K-H. K-H. Yeah, I thought that was Jay.

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I actually have it. I do have it. I don't think I told you about it. Okay. I picked it up on George's recommendation. Crowbar, they're self-titled. I love that fucking album. Finally was able to grab at Soundgarden, Opath the Roundhouse tapes on vinyl. Nice. Oh, you finally got that? Yeah, finally. How much? I think it was $30. Wow. That's not bad. That's really good. Jungle Rot, Kill on Command, Ice Earth, Night of the Storm Rider. I got the Between the

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I got a nice cancer benefit album. Real cool pink vinyl. Because like George, I'm a vinyl junkie addict with a problem. Death Haven, New Bermuda. Wait. That's a joke, right? No, that's 100% serious. Can I just point out that I don't have that either of them on vinyl? That's why he has to validate that. You cannot be fucking serious. I'm 100% serious. He buys shit he doesn't like because it's on vinyl. It's on vinyl. I think with

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As much press as it has, I need to own it. I have it. I'll send you a picture. I was surprised at how many lists it was on this year. Yeah. I actually was. It was. I was surprised. Just like Sunbather, it made so many lists that I'm thinking I must be doing something wrong. I think it's way better than Sunbather, personally. That's not saying much, but I think it's way better. Have you listened to it yet? I haven't listened to it now. You plan to listen to it. You just want to own it. I just have it. It's an addiction. Will you listen to it? It's hanging on the wall right now.

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Look at it this way, Will. It's one more copy that's not out there so somebody else can listen to it. I'm saving the world. Yes. I'm saving virgin ears from this. Any more? Yeah, I got a couple more. Okay. Amorphous, Under the Red Cloud. Yes. Still, start to finish an amazing album. Was Amorphous the top album of all our lists last year? I think it was as a group. It was on every list but one. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

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To show how much I value my friends' opinions, also at the Soundgarden, I grabbed Clutch, Psychic Warfare. Wait, wait, wait, hold on. Are you not a Clutch fan? No, I am. I didn't have it on vinyl. I bought it because you loved it so much. Dude, it's phenomenal. I loved their last couple. Number one. Yeah, number one. Winterfelleth, The Ghost of Heritage, My Dying Bride, Field of Misery, finally picked up Paul Bearer, their first album.

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Ich hab. Ich habe ein Fortsch, der Restarter

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Because remember that one you sent me was like that beautiful blue sky with clouds in it. Yeah, that's what I picked you up at. Death Fest. Death Fest last year. That's like one of my nicest looking albums. But I wanted to go on record. That's my catchphrase this episode. If you haven't heard the Woven War self-titled album, it's not super metal. And I know it's probably too poppy for this. But if you like hooks, give an album a listen, guys. Woven War, the guys who did not get arrested for killing their wives and came out of Oz LA dying. That's correct. And the lead singer from Oh Sleeper.

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I'd also like to pause here for a minute and just congratulate you, Buke, on coining the phrase, the girth of heritage. That was beautiful, dude. Everybody just let it go by. By the way, Jay, my friends have listened to the last episode, and their favorite moment, hands down, is Archivist. Sadly, you're a hero amongst all my friends right now. I have to say this here, because sadly there is no.

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No girth over here.

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The lowest comment.

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That's right.

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Okay, George, your turn, buddy.

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All right, I've only got two new ones.

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As Jay mentioned, I got...

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Have Rose been flipped this week?

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Apparently.

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It's been a slow year.

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It's been split this week.

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As Jay mentioned, I got The Swallow of the Sun, Songs from the North, 1, 2, and 3, 5-album vinyl.

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I also got Celtic Frost's Morbid Tales After a Long, Hard Search.

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Which is only covered with, it must be followed with Fuck You by me. I mean, he got a good price on it, he got a good quality copy. It's hard to find a quality copy of this album. How did you buy it? How did you buy it? I got it on, I think it was Discogs. It was Discogs. Yes. And he got the, he has the lyric poster in it and everything. It looks good. Yeah, and it's like, yeah, it was listed as like VG Plus near Mint, but like the vinyl's spotless and the, even the cover is in,

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I got a notification today George from Discogs for a VG plus both media and cover for 65 bucks and I'm honestly thinking about it but I just don't know if I want to spend that yeah because that's like way at the top of my must-have list yeah yeah I also pre-ordered three albums uh but I haven't obviously received them yet uh I pre-ordered the Abbath it's shipping by the way because I got a shipping notice on there all right uh and I pre-ordered the new Anthrax and I pre-ordered the new Borknogger

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Yes.

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You know what? I'm going to need to get that on vinyl. That's a good record, dude.

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That one's going to sit with me for a while.

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Cool.

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All right, deep tracks.

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All right, I'm going, I'm picking a deep track from a deep track.

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Because if you're a Rush fan, this is going way deep.

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This is off their Caress of Steel album, for any of you Rush fans.

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Fountain of Lameth, it's the third part of it.

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It's called No One at the Bridge.

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Most of you guys probably don't know it, but it's...

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I know it. I went through a huge Rush phase.

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Yeah, it's beyond deep for Rush, because they have such a massive catalog. But it's one of those songs, it's got a solo on it that reminds me of Tangerine from Led Zeppelin. Nothing special, but Jimmy Page has hit the notes just perfect on the solo. Same here with Alex Lifeson. That Tangerine solo is almost out of tune, but it's not, and it's perfect. You know what I mean? It's just right on the edge, and it works. And so that's the solo for this song. Same for me. That was back when he used to still play Les Pauls. Actually, that might be an ES-335 record.

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He was playing them again, but they're all refashioned and badass now. Yeah, it's his signature Les Paul. It's thin because he's fat now, and it's got a whammy bar on it and shit. Yeah, it's a little different. But a good choice. We could talk Rush sometime, John. We'll do it next week. Yeah, when you guys see each other for the first time. Actually, when John will see, you will be the first person to meet any of us. John will be the first person to meet you.

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in person. Yeah, and I'm looking forward to it. John's coming to my neighborhood. Yeah, we're going to get together and have a beer. I'm jealous. This one? This one beer? Wait, first of all, it actually will be one. Share a beer. Yeah, you'll share one because Jake doesn't drink. Actually, I'm drinking now. I am drinking the Trappist Rocafort. If you guys have seen his hockey play recently, what number? It's in my cold cup, so you can't see it. Hey, what number? Oh, BS. Hey, Jay, what number on the Rochefort? Eight, eight. And it's got, is that how you pronounce it? Rochefort? It's got eight. Eight, eight.

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That's how you pronounce it, yes. And it's like 11-7 volume alcohol. Yeah, it's nice. All three of them. All right, Will, deep track. Oh, my deep track. Slayer off the Diabolus of Musical, which is probably their most hated album ever, which it actually has. I love that album. I love it too, but people freaking hate this album. But there's a song on there called Love to Hate, which I think is perfect because people love to hate this album and the song on this album is Love to Hate. I love it. Me too. That's it. Good song. Mine is,

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I'm still we decided to go Lemmy again this week or Lemmy off of the deep track album completely deep album Another Perfect Day the lead track is called Back to the Funny Back at the Funny Farm it's a great song excellent that's it cool opeth off a morning rise a beautiful song to bid you farewell yes excellent choice cool mine is from 1989 Wrathchild America and the song is Silent Darkness Smothered Life from their Climbing the Walls album

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Dude, I saw them in concert. Me too? In Philadelphia. Yeah, was it the Megadeth show? No, it was definitely not a Megadeth show. I saw them on this tour opening for Megadeth. I think it was Testament. I think it was Testament. Oh, wait, maybe it was Testament. They supported Testament. Yeah, the practice what you preach. I saw them open for Faith's Warning. All right. Yeah, in Tucson. Cool.

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What's your best way?

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Woldera,

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Symphony X Paradise Lost,

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Wolderun made my list for favorite honorable mentions,

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their last one,

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Pagan's Mind Celestial Entrance,

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Bugle Scratches Head Why This Isn't My Top Ten,

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Opeth Ghost Reveries.

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I'm scratching my head.

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You're also scratching my head.

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Forknagarb.

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I got Forknagarb!

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Enslaved Below the Lights,

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and my last one Isis Oceanic.

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Okay, and what's your number 10?

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My number 10,

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the only band I got two entries,

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Opeth Deliverance. Okay. Will, what do you got? Alright, my honorable mentions are long, but not in any particular order. Yesterday's Saints, Generation of Vipers, Iron Maiden, Brave New World, High on Fire, Snakes of the Divine, Deicide to Hell with Fucking God, Testament Formation of Damnation, Macedon, Leviathan, Cavalier Conspiracy, Inflicted, which was fucking great, Behemoth, the Satanist, Candiria, What Doesn't Kill You, Sick of It All, Death to Tyrants,

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GR, which used to be formerly, the artist formerly named at, called Voyager, Hypersleep, and every fucking Cannibal Corpse album since 2000. And what's your number 10? My number 10 is Hark, Crystalline. Nice. Wow. British, sort of doomy, rock up. Unbelievable, I love it. I love those guys. Yeah, good stuff. Jay, what do you got? Honorable mentions, Vandenploz, Christo, Dead Again. Yeah, it's such a good one. Dead Again,

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by Goat Whore, Blood for the Master by Goat Whore, Pig Destroyer, Terrifier, and then two records that don't necessarily fall in the metal category per se, but I think they're really good records, Tool, Lateralist, and System of a Down, Toxicity, which I think is a great fucking record. Can you unplug this fucking mic, please, for that one? Even though I have it. I love it. I love it. Put away the makeup. All you Californians are all communists, so it's all right.

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I'm from California. I was a late adapter, but I have to say I love that record. My number 10, Iron Maiden, Brave New World. Great. That's the first repeat. Is this the last 15? Oh, yeah, I got confused. You know what? There's going to be a bunch of repeats because you guys, all your honorable mentions. We said 15 years. I figured it was 15 actual real years. 2001 to 15 is 15 years. We're talking in the last 15. I did 2000 to 2015 myself.

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What are you guys? All right. Brave New World's on my list. Yes, I did 2000 to 2015. Yeah, that is 16 years. Oops. You remember, I brought this up, but I didn't actually think about that. Yeah. Anyway, who cares? Okay. Let me just say, I'm including this on my list. I'm kicking myself in the fucking pants. Like we all will when we hear other things. Nevermore, Dead Heart in a Dead World.

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Children of Bodom, Hate Crew, Death Roll, Tombs, Savage Gold, Demiou Borgir, Death Call Armageddon, Ice Earth, The Glorious Burden. I can't believe these are... Me too. I was just putting those on your list. This is massive right here. Mastodon, Leviathan. I mentioned that, yeah. Great. Iron Maiden, Brave New World. Another Iron Maiden. And the album that got me into fucking heavy metal is going to be an honorable mention. Really? What?

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that I know in the metal world it's not liked. This is probably my number one of all time behind Alice in Chains, Pantera, Revenge of the Steel. Wow. And your number 10. And my number 10, Anthrax, Worship Music. Wow. Excellent. Start to finish, it's a catchy as hell album. True return to form. I associated this album more with Anthrax than any other album of theirs. Well, it's because you weren't born when the other ones came out. But yeah, of course. I will say this moving forward, this list to me, guys,

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is more important because I found metal in like 99,

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2000.

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When you guys were on.

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When I brought the metal to you.

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Just come on,

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say it.

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Say it.

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When George brought the metal.

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Albums of all time.

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Yeah.

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So this for me is my favorite albums of all time.

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Yes.

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Let's do it next time.

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Next time.

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All right.

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My honorable mentions.

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Dissection,

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Reign Chaos,

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the only one that came out in the 2000s before he killed himself.

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Amon Amarth with Odin on our side.

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I forgot that one.

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I mean, I'd have to add that to mine too. Machine Head, The Blackening. That's a fucking honorable mention? That is an honorable mention. Oh my god, George! Yeah, I was drunk. I thought that was going to be on my list and it just got pushed off. That's an honorable mention. Yep. Wow. In Morning, The Weight of Oceans. It's an ocean album, so it's got to be on the list because all ocean albums are cool. Which brings me to my next one, The Ocean, Pelagial. And just to keep everybody else happy, Iron Maiden, Brave Nose.

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New World.

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Oh, fine.

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Boom, boom, boom, boom.

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Did you just throw that one on there?

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No.

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I would have guessed that would have been on there.

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That's an honorable mention, George.

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Yeah, I thought it was going to be on his list, though.

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Yeah, I thought it would be on his list.

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We should put that.

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That's probably your number one.

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Make a list.

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That's the number one honorable mention, Brave New World.

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Yeah, send me your honorable mentions.

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I bet it's going to be Brave New World.

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And my number 10, which is also going to make Buke have paroxysms.

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Paroxysms?

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Is that right?

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Sure, why not?

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What?

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The Convulsions is Bloodbath, Resurrection Through Carnage.

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But it's on the list.

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It's on the list.

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Honorable mention. Fucking blackening.

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Oh my god.

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Alright, John, number nine.

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Just mentioned it, George from the Ocean.

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Peligio.

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It's my number nine.

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I love that fucking album.

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That's a great album.

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My number nine, Pyres, Year of Sleep.

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Wow.

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Dude, if you have not heard Pyres out Toronto, Canada, there's a lot of great music coming

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out of the northeast of Canada. But Pyers, you're asleep. It is like a slightly doomy, rocky, deathy sort of art. It's amazing. Yeah, I bought that on your recommendation. All right, my number nine is one of the two albums I'm confident nobody else will have. But it was really, this has been the era of doom. And this was one of the foundational records. And it's good, I think. Electric Wizard, Dope Throne. Oh, yeah, that's good. No one else will have it, but it's good. Yeah, I thought there'd be crickets.

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So that's cool. No, no. No, it's cool. Buke, number nine. Number nine. Honorable mention George Washburn. He is feeling betrayed right now. Do you know how much we talked about that album? Yes. Hey, hey, hey, hey. Three inches of blood, advance and vanquish. All right. I'm surprised it's not low on your list. It should be really high, but this might, I'm sorry, I'm a little fucking list drunk right here for my best friend. We're just really drunk. Well, hey, you know, I expected those to be higher for you as well. So my number nine, Children of

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Bodeham, Hate Crew, Death Roll. Okay. That's it? That's it? An okay? Really? He's okay with it. I'm fine with that. That's because he honorable mentioned it. Yeah. Or wait, did you? I did. Good point. All right, John. All right, my lone true prog metal album on this whole list, Arch Matheos, Sympathetic Resonance. Nice. Sorry. Yeah, I'm a sucker for Arch. Yeah, me too. Actually, you know what?

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But John Archer's EP on my honorable mentions. I listen to that record so much. Yeah. And as far as I'm concerned, they're both the same band. I love they're both great. I love them. How do you spell his? Is that A-R-C? Yep. Okay. If you like modern Fate's warning sound and Arch singing, that's what you get. Okay. All right, Will. My number eight, Borracho, Splitting Sky. There you go. If you have not heard Borracho from DC, who are friends of mine, who have made beer for these guys, but irrespective,

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I think it's their first full-length album. First one, yeah. They're a fun show live. Awesome band live. It is an unbelievably great album. And this was actually my daughter Evelyn's favorite album for years. And she's only five years old. And this is her favorite album for years. Will likes borracho like Jay likes burrito. Yeah, burritos. That's an East Coast burrito. It's a borracho. Was this again, Jay? Borracho means drunk or drunkard in Spanish.

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The album name again? Splitting Sky. It's a good album. They're the most humble, great dudes in the world. Oh, they're awesome. Yeah. John knows them. Yeah, they're cool. Jay, number eight. My number eight, I think these guys are one of the more important post-2000 bands. I had to have one of their records, and this is my favorite. Blessed Black Wings by High on Fire. Cool. Oh, yeah, yeah. It's a cool album. Buke, number eight. Bloodbath, Resurrection Through Carnage. All right. Nice. See, it was close to mine, you know?

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All right, my number eight is Anthrax Worship Music. Wow, so nice that you guys both put that in. Oh, you guys complete me. I thought our list would be pretty much, let's go borknock each other. Hey, can you borknock me under the table there? All right, John, number seven. I can guarantee nobody will have this guy on their list. The madman from Canada himself, Devin Townsend. And it's his poppy album. It's Addicted. I absolutely love that album from start to

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Well, minus a couple clunkers at the end.

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Yeah, but nobody's going to get on you for it.

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But nobody else will have it, so I stand out.

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No one ever heard it, so no one's going to give you crap.

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I love having these guys as part of the pod.

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Fuck you guys. You all know who Devin Townsend is.

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Fuck you.

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Of course we do. And we all like him, I think.

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I think it's fair to say we all like something he's done.

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This is Devin Townsend in his sober years.

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Now, John, what's the difference between the Devin Townsend project

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and the Devin Townsend band?

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Nothing.

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Or anything else he's ever done, dude, for that matter. Well, I think it was just really kind of his creative process. That's all it is. If you know much about him, just real quick, he went through a pretty dark period of, I guess, I don't want to call it partying, but he went to some dark places, cleaned himself up, and he just decided he wants to have a bunch of different projects. It's all the same Devontown. Okay. I'm surprised you didn't go with Ghost. I thought that was pretty critically acclaimed. Ghost is his, what, ambient album?

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What? Just did that, George? George. You better get that on call at all times. The cricket sound, that was priceless. You need to hire a sound guy. George, turn this into a sound board. It makes these drops every now and again. If you want to go there, we'll go there. Oh! Yeah, I'm going to load some shit up right now.

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That was all George over here. All right, Will, number seven. Slayer, Christ Illusion. Cricket Sound. This list is worse than 2015. I don't know why that could easily... I will have to say my number one through... Actually, my whole top ten could be all number ones. Yeah, you didn't play Crickets for your album.

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Nobody laughed at your last album, John. Jay, number seven. Jay, your pick. You know what? You skipped out. I missed Wills. I couldn't hear Wills for whatever. It was Christ Illusion. My number seven from the honorable mention file, my number seven is Machine Heads the Blackman. Well, Buke likes you better than me now. It might not be high enough for him. That's it.

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Lamb of God as the palaces burn. They're going to be there somewhere. You know what? I have one problem with that album. The music is phenomenal. I just hate how much they riff against the military in that album. That was my number one pet peeve with Lamb of God. I love the music. But man, they say they support the military. All the lyrics are like, we're a bunch of, because I'm a United States Marine, they just think we're a bunch of fucking diddo-ed retards. That's a common veteran opinion about them.

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And the recording quality on this album is not good. Yeah, that's a debut. George? My number seven is Powerwolf, Blood of the Saints. We drink your blood. I didn't myself. I cricketed myself. I love this album. It's a great album. But over the fucking blackening? Yeah. George, you just got some serious street credit by cricketing yourself. That was good.

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Suck. I was not expecting much. He just yawned at you. That's true. All right. John, number six. All right, my number six, you could have picked any one of their last six albums. Well, four of the six, but it's the first for their comeback, Amorphous, Eclipse. All right. Love it. That works. No crickets for you. I'm already going Skyforger myself. All right, Will, number six. Number six, Paul Bearer, Foundations of Burden.

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I was wondering if somebody would do that one. Like I said, when it comes to, like, I'm getting this point in my list, all these could have been number one, so. Yeah. And that is a fine, fine album. This one I could have done, not unlike John, I could have done anything from Below the Lights up till now. But probably my favorite all-time enslaved record is Rune. I think it's just solid from start to finish, and it's a great record. That and Below the Lights are my two favorite by them, yes. Great album. Right on. Buke, number six. Call me Metalcore if you want, laugh me off the fucking podcast,

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your crickets wait wait wait wait wait well let us all cue everything up before you sign it

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let's get everything ready to go kill switch engage alive or just breathing

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i don't care i don't give a fuck wait wait wait george don't you call them kill suck engage no this album i have listened to thousands of times this album like it or not started a lot of bands and a lot of success for a lot of bands in the metal world around this time after this album

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This is right before Howard joined the band. I love it. Yeah, he's been pretty... I've been flying the flag of these guys before they fucking broke. Yeah, he's been pretty loyal the whole time. George, don't you hate these guys? I'm not a fan. No, he is not a fan. And him and I don't really talk about it, but I have always been on these guys' bandwagon. Hey, Will, to put that in your perspective from the military, it's kind of a don't ask, don't tell thing. Yeah.

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I will say that I've seen

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Killswitch a couple times. I have a bunch of albums.

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I like Killswitch. I don't love

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them. They were cool live

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and I enjoyed them live when I saw them.

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I like the Howard years because

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he is an incredible vocalist.

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I could put the end of Heartache right in this spot

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and it could. That album is amazing.

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But a lot of just breathing

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just started me down this path.

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My number six, Celtic Frost

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Monotheist.

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I'm surprised that's at number six, not higher. Oh, just wait. Higher being lower, closer to number one. Yeah. All right, John, number five. Do you have a banjo to keep with those crickets there at all? What, are you going to do Panopticon? No. Not Death Heaven either. November's Doom, The Pale Hunt Departure is my number five. Yeah, I like them. Yes. Cool. Will? My number five, Clutch.

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Blast Tyrant. Who? Ouch, yeah. I won't give you crickets. I like Clutch 2. Well, we are in our top five now, just to kind of note that here. So we're a hometown band, so give them respect. I know, I give them that too. All right, Jay. My number five, Isis Oceanic. Nice, great album. The second mention for that. Just to be clear, Jay supports Isis. Yeah, he supports Isis. Yeah, you do support Isis. But Jay meant to say it was Isis the band. That's right. I give him credit who refused to change your name. Good for them.

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As in Anthrax.

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Same with Anthrax.

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Back in 2001.

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Why should I fuck them?

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Not the band.

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Right.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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Buke, number five.

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Hatebreed Perseverance.

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Cool.

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Oh, nice.

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Right on.

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I've been a big fan of those guys for years.

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My favorite album by them.

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All right.

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Let me just cue up the crickets again.

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Because nobody knows my number five.

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Buke should.

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But number five.

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Timeless Miracle Into the Enchanted Chamber.

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Yeah, nobody knows that one.

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But it's a classic, let me tell you. It's one of my all-time favorite albums. It's power metal, and it's good. It's real good. So check that out. Literally, I've never heard of it. Yeah, I knew nobody would. The image of Will and I on the screen is evidence right there. It is very good, very good. This should be a live recording so you can see. The podcast should also include the video of all three of us so we can see the reactions on people's faces. Yeah, it's been a lot of days, looks. Yeah.

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We're doing all right. Jay's yawning. Well, I'm trying to get my rim shot rolling here until I have it ready. I thought you said rim job. The next record I hear, that's a joke. Or in some circles, the Borknogger. Yes. Yeah. All right, John, number four. My next four are all badass fucking albums, so I don't want to hear no fucking crickets or any rim shots. Bring it, buddy. Primordial. The name was dead. The crickets have been set down.

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There you go. That's one of my favorites, too. Yeah, that was on a lot of lists throughout the years, yes. That's probably my most intense album in the last 15 years, from start to finish. I like We're Greater Men Are Falling More myself, but that's just me. That was your number one in 2014, right? It was. That was my number one album last year. Yeah, that's a great album, too. Will, number four. My number four is Bloodbath, Nightmares Made Flesh. I know it's not Michael Ackerfart, but I think the music quality is, I think the songs are

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way better than anything else they've done. No open beer for you now. Yep. Get that away from him. Knock that out of his fucking hand. Are you a hypocrisy fan? I am a fan of whoever the lead singer was on that album. That's Peter. Yeah, that's Peter. Peter from hypocrisy, yeah. Hypocrisy. No, I've never. I don't know. I don't give him crap what other band he was in to music on that album was way better. Jay, number four. All right. Even though Buke and John are always talking about it, I went through a period when I was in the

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I was obsessed with these guys and it lasted up through, well, right before one record that you guys love and I don't. One Direction? No. Blackwater Park by Opeth. You will get no complaints from us here on that one. Nope. People call that one of the greatest metal albums of all time. I considered it. Buke, wait, wait, Buke, have you had an Opeth album yet? Not yet, because my whole list could be Opeth. So like the top three? I'm not saying anything. At least I mentioned two so far.

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Number 4. Between the Buried and Me. The Parallax 2. Future Sequence. Start the Finish. Amazing. Same vein as the Ocean album. And to watch them play it live, Start the Finish even does it for me more. Liver. Right on. My number 4 is Ahab and the Giant. I forgot about that. I forgot about that. That's a great one. Okay, here we are at top 3.

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My list is just getting more badass as we go on. I know Will will like this one. Gojira. Gojira. Gojira. Gojira. From Mars to Cirrus. Yep, that's a very strong album too, John. That's a great one. Strong choice. Strong choice. He got it on the green with that one. I felt like when I heard this album for the first time, it somehow revolutionized metal for me. Yeah, it was great. No complaints there. Heavy as fuck. Double bass. Yeah.

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And actually, that's the first time we hung out of the show. Oh, look at them kissing each other. Put the tongues away. Hold on, I've got to cover up the camera for a second. John, don't we expect your album out this year? We do. They're working on it right now. Which, incidentally, they toured with Machine Head, whose Blackkney record was out that same year, and that was quite a tour. Booyah. All right, Will. My number three, Creator, Hordes of Chaos. That's good.

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Easily could have been my number one. It is from start to finish, there's not a bad song, which to me was return to form for Creator, going back to just putting out amazing thrash metal. I just listened to Pleasure to Kill yesterday. I'd listened to it in a long time. I love Creator. There's a period where in the 90s, every band dropped off. They got lost, yeah. They picked up Hordes of Chaos. I could listen to that every day. I love it. Excellent. My number three, Easily,

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One of the most important post-2000 bands. I think they've fallen off a little bit, last couple records, but you cannot deny that Leviathan is great by Mastodon. Very good. Oh, yes. Blood and Thunder is probably the greatest song in the last 15 years. I think about this a lot when I was putting this list together is, what is the first riff of the first song on an album? Well, that's the best way to put it. I think that someone's trying to kill me. And it's about Moby

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I mean that there are bands that sprung out of that album literally Ahab was inspired by that yeah I will say I will I will I will make a slight tangent here my whole brewery that I work at Fair Winds and Following Fair Winds Brewing Company comes out of the phrase Fair Winds and Following Seas which is from Herman Melville's Moby Dick which I read by the way because of Leviathan it was just an amazing book I can't read it's so good it's good

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I'll just say this. Is it my number three? It is your number three. Number three. Sentenced, The Cold White Light. Excellent. Definitely no crickets there. No. No crickets there at all. Start to finish an amazing album. Not super heavy, but yep. My number three, Trypticon, Milana Kazmata. Yes. I was wondering what I was going to figure. It's nice. Yep. You'd be surprised it wasn't higher, I would think. Yeah. Three's pretty good. Three's pretty good. Yep. All right. John, number two.

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I'm going with the big beast from the ocean with Macedon Leviathan. Oh, fuck yeah. There you go. Yep. Great. Let me tell you right now. It's all the other songs outside of blood and thunder that I love on that album. Really? That's great. No, it's a blood and thunder. Iron Tusk is just badass. Yeah. Seabees. Yeah. Seabees. Hearts Alive is the centerpiece. Even though it's at the end. That's the song of the album for me. It is, dude. That's one of the songs of the decade. That's your beer right there. Hops Alive, man. Hops Alive. Hops Alive, man. Well done, John. And I could agree.

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It's epic. I know every note of that record backwards and forwards. It's one of the few albums from this period that I like every song from start to finish. It's so good. So fucking good. Don't wait on me. Can I say it for us that no matter where we really put these albums, it doesn't make one better than the other. In our opinion, these are all great fucking albums. Including honorable mentions. You would go wrong. I have messed up on the bithynal honorable mentions. Same for me.

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We probably could have easily put that at number one. Exactly. If any of our listeners went out and spent their money on buying every single one of these, you would not be wrong. Mark is going to make one hell of a playlist. Except for the ones that George mentioned. Yeah, except for the ones that George mentioned, and good luck there. Don't buy any albums until John puts together the top ten list from our top ten. Yeah, yeah. Wait until John puts it out. Yeah, let me finish that list first, then go buy them. Yeah. All right, my number two.

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Cannibal Corpse Kill. I was wondering if you were going to have any of them. I felt like this was, and this is going to sound weird, I felt like this was their more approachable, the first approachable album that they did in a weird sort of way. I just felt like they got sort of more, the song structure was a little bit more melodic, and this is the first album I felt like you can tell the difference between the songs, and every album after this has been phenomenal. And I named a beer after, I brewed a beer at my last brewery called Maniacal,

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which is one of the later songs off this album. I love this album so much. And my favorite beer from that former brewery. Yeah. A lot of people's favorite beer. All right. I got to tell you, Mastodon, I was like a Mastodon, you know, just worshiper throughout the decade. And so the fact that this record creeped above Mastodon says a lot about this record. And I think there's no dead space on this fucking record. Nevermore This Godless Endeavor. Yes. Great fucking. I have listened to that record. I have listened to that so many times. And I, and it was the one that when we started making this list,

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I listened to more than any other record once I started going back. And I just sentient number six and fucking Sama Lydia. God damn it, that record's good from start to finish. It closes out with a great track. It's amazing. Yeah, I love that album. And it was a great tour. Everything about it was good. Yeah. All right. John, have Nevermore, do they play Prog Power back in the day? They have been asked several times and they've canceled. And we'll have to talk about Nevermore later. We still haven't done that.

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He was there with Sanctuary. Okay. And that was cool. I got to see Sanctuary, so that was cool. But never, never more there. But I've seen Nevermore boatloaded times when they've toured Opeth, it seems like the first half of the 2000s, a bunch of times. A bunch of times, yeah. I saw Sanctuary when they opened for Megadeth, not Wrath Child America. Wrath Child America was testament. I saw Sanctuary on the Refuge Denied tour with Megadeth. That would have been cool. Definitely cool. Yeah. Awesome. Duke, number two. Every Opeth album could be,

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and honorable mention are on this list from 2000 on. I'm going to list my favorite that got more plays than any other album, Opeth Ghost Reveries. Wow, nice. For me, they all could fill this whole list, but that's just stupid to do. Yeah, I feel the same way about all the Cattle Corpse albums. Yeah, all of our lists could be four or five of the same band. Yeah, I felt that way about my number two and my number one. My number two is Bukes' number three, Sentence to the Cold White Light.

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Yes, sir. Yes. Yes. A little bit of borknogging going on. Yes, I hear a borknogging going on there. We just lost video from George Buick. He threw a towel over the camera. Good choice, buddy. And they're both smiling. Well, this is where it gets ugly, number one. No, it's not going to get ugly because if you don't know what this is, you don't know me. Buick, you want to do my number one? Are you going Blackwater Park? Blackwater Park, number one. I knew it, my friend. From open. Without question.

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You know what, buddy? You can look at multiple lists, websites, books. Again, I said earlier, I think when Jay mentioned it or Will, whoever mentioned it, Jay mentioned it. This is, people say, one of the greatest metal albums of all time. It is. It would be, if this was an all-time list, it would probably be on my all-time list. Yeah. It simply did not make mine because, not that I don't like it as much, I just didn't listen to it as much as Ghost Reveries. It's not my favorite Opeth album, but it's my favorite for this period.

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Yes.

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That's funny that you say that because Leviathan is not my favorite Mastodon record, but it's the one I put on the list.

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What is your favorite Mastodon album?

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Crack the Sky.

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Yeah, nice.

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But I love Leviathan. Nothing wrong with it.

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Leviathan is by far my favorite one.

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Leviathan of Mission.

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Well, I didn't even say this.

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This will sound strange, but I think Leviathan is their best record, but Crack the Sky is my favorite record.

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Jay and Will, and John included, what did you guys think of Re-Mission when you first heard it?

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Loved it.

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Loved it? Yeah. I love it. March of the Fire Ants? March of the Fire Ants, yep. But the jump from that record to Leviathan was fucking astronomical. Yeah. And I feel like every album that's come out has been a huge jump to the point that they're irrelevant. Yeah, that's a great point you bring up there, Will. Every album has been a huge jump. They're in the wrong direction, by the way. I did like Up the Fire Ants. See, but you know what? John, I'll go on in.

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Even the last couple. They're good. They're still catchy. Groundbreaking. I have them all. I don't like them all. I think we listened to it one night. You and I were just like, eh. It's the way I feel about Opus now. What's your number one? Number one, Gojira from Mars is serious. That was a good one. What's weird is I was surprised this was going to be my number one because I... I would not have expected this from you. I would have thought a cannibal corpse would have been. I would have thought Kill would have been your number one.

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When I heard Gojira from Mars is Sirius the first time, I just actually felt like this was something completely new in metal. Even though it wasn't that new, but the way they slide the guitar between riffs and the double bass drums, it's very drum forward. But it's not traditional death metal. There's a progressive side to them. Oh yeah, absolutely. Flying Wells was like, what? Really? But I remember, I will never forget this, and this is what I have to say.

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I was my wife and I took a trip before we had kids down to southern Africa and we ended up in Cape Town South in the country of South Africa. We went to Cape of Good Hope, which is the southernmost point. And I actually for whatever reason, I had my iPod on me. I should say for whatever reason because I always have it on me. And in the in the bay and one of the bays of Cape of Good Hope, I saw some humpback whales. And I literally quickly found this track and I started playing flying whales.

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from this album Gojira. It's a long song. It's like eight minutes long. I started listening and just watching the whales. It was a beautiful day outside. It was very surreal. My wife was coming back, walking back toward me. She's like, let's go. I'm like, leave me alone. I'm just going to listen to this song and watch whales. I actually see whales, not flying, but swimming, listening to this album. This album, when I heard it for the first time, just absolutely

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Absolutely sort of blew me away. I found it was familiar, but so different. That's all I'm going to say about that. But I really, really like it, and I think it's a great album. Jay, number one. My number one is a record that I think is one of the true works of art to come out after 2000. I should think you would know what it is, George. Jay, I have a feeling you and I can be number one. Don't you disappoint me right now, Jay. I'm sorry. I'm about to disappoint you, because there's no way this is your rule. Are you serious?

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Yeah, there's no way. Is that what we talked about playing hockey the other night? Is it Monotheist? It's Monotheist. Celtic. Yeah. That was... You're so disappointed. It's a fucking great album. I loved it so much, and it's just good from start to finish. I saw some on that tour, and they were fucking artful in fucking person. It was amazing. But Jade and George, for both of you, don't you think, though, after the duds that came before that for this album to come out, you're like, what the fuck? Yes! As a reunion record, too. Yes!

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And it took forever to make, and I was like, it was worth it. It was worth every minute it took to make this record. Now that I let you down, Buk, I thought we talked about Machine Head the other night. After talking about this playing hockey the other day, I'm going to be really quick. As a band that completely found themselves again, that breathed new life into a fucking band, I'm getting all passionate, getting all up on the mic here. Well, let me stop you there. You already heard me say it, dude. It was down on my list a little ways. It was on your list a little ways, Jay.

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But that doesn't make a difference right now. It's a winger. And to a band that completely changed themselves and fucking grew and showed maturity. Machine Head the Blackening. George, I'm disappointed there was an honorable mention from you. I just want to go on the record with that. I will tell you, it was one of the first things I put down that I thought of. I was like, oh, it's got to be on there. But it just got pushed off. But you loved it. We loved that. I know. That's why that album.

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is why I said this list would not be accurate. Fork Nugger. Yeah, I was obsessed with it, Buke. It was my number seven, so it is on my list. That album has put them back on the map and put them one of the greats. That's their master of puppets. That album alone is, just like he said, a master of puppets. And we could even go into other bands, honorable mentions, Trivium, End of the Dragon, all those albums were fucking great around this time. Well, Buke's the only one that could possibly guess my number one, I'm thinking. I can't right now.

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I'm so lost. It's sentenced. I'm sure it's something by sentence. No, my sentence came in at number two. New Bermuda. New Bermuda. By the way, when I re-listened to the podcast and heard that, I laughed for like five minutes. Both my kids were in the car and they're like, Daddy, what are you laughing at? Before George takes this, I want to give one honorable mention I forgot. Amon Amarth with Odin on our side. I'm surprised that wasn't on there. Go ahead, George. My number one.

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Cue Crickets. Oh, come on. Is it Crickets album? Could this be Tripticon? No, Tripticon was number three. 1993 album. Nope. This is from 2012. Woods of E. Prairie 5. Great Skies and Electric Light. Yep. Fair enough. No, don't get Crickets for this. I should have known. Yeah, that's... I should have known. That is definitely my favorite album of the last 15 years. I kick myself for not knowing that, yes. Interesting.

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Okay, so we had a lot of doubles there. Mastodon showed up. Machine Head showed up a couple times. Looking at all of our lists, though, Leviathan probably could be the podcast. Well, that and Machine Head probably. That and Machine Head, yeah. I think Gogeta. Blackwater Park. Mastodon and Leviathan. Blackwater Park was mentioned on all of our lists, maybe. Iron Man and Brave New World. Brave New World was everybody as well. So our top ten list is going to have, when we do it, it's going to have an honorable mention as one of the top albums of the year.

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You know what? You gotta get it where you can get it from, you know? That was my idea today at the last minute to do the most disappointing albums of the last 15 years. So here they are. Go, John. All right. I don't hate these albums. I like them. I was still disappointed. Maiden's last album, Book of Souls. Bah! Yes. I agree with you. You got my vote there. Those are my two. Oh, John. I liked them. I was just disappointed because I didn't expect them. Will. Sure. Yeah, so mine, The Sword, High Country.

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I'm sorry Buke, it was a huge disappointment for me, and everything by Metallica after the Black

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album. Everything after Justice for All. What are you talking about? Yeah, go Jack. You guys have named some that I could go along with, so I'm just going to add those.

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to my list, but I will just say two records. These guys were on my list. Electric Wizard. I thought their last record sucked so bad after like four great records. I mean, I couldn't even get through it. And then I thought the follow-up to Brave New World, I thought Dance of Death was pretty fucking lame. So I was really disappointed in that record. Book of Souls was a major disappointment. And I was in Yellowstone at the time going backpacking through the country. I had one album called Heritage on my iPod. Hadn't heard anything about it.

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Here we go. This is going to be the best week ever. I was like, yes, sir, going into the backwoods with this brand new OPEF album. Why me? If a grizzly bear would have come and ripped my throat out, I would have been fine at that point. Take my life. That's awesome. Major disappointment. But I've grown to love that album. George. I don't have anything that... He's quickly doing some research trying to make up something.

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I just saw George type. I didn't know he could type. I wanted to get some specifics. All right. Well, most of the stuff people have already mentioned. I was going to say. If it's obscure, though, can anybody really hate it? No, no, no. If somebody hates an obscure record in the forest alone, does it? Well, can you forget it? I don't know where it's going. Does anybody hear it? Yeah. Yeah, no, but St. Anger, Lulu.

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Yeah. And, uh, Pale Communion was a disappointment? Yes, it was. I think Heritage established what they were, though, now. I still liked Heritage more. He was disappointed that they didn't correct their mistake. Yeah. And then finally, uh... Not even they learned from that album. Sorry, George. A whole bunch of Megadeth. Endgame, 13, Super Collider. Oh, yeah, sure. All of them. So, yeah. And you can probably add dystopia pretty soon. And myself, one more quickly, everything after Hate Crew

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for children of Bodum.

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Oh, come on. The new one is all right.

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The new one's all right.

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Yeah.

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And everything after Death Cult Armageddon for Demu.

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Also supposed to be working on a record right now, so we'll see.

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Yeah.

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All right.

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Before we get into the last bit here, I want to mention to check us out on Facebook.

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You can check us out on Twitter.

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I think you are.

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Thank you for confirming.

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And you can also check us out on Instagram, we're on YouTube, we're on Stitcher, and as always, at WeAreMetalHeads.com. All right, we're going to leave you now with the last bit from Roundtable, and then we will finish up with another song from them. So we'll see you next time. All right, here we are at the end of the episode, and as promised, we've got a little bit more with Roundtable. Before we get into the last song, I wanted to ask you guys,

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You could give us some information. Where can people find your stuff, your music, or anything else? What can you pimp? You can find us at roundtableband.com. That just directs you to our band camp at the moment. That's where you can buy a copy of our album digitally and soon in physical formats. You can also buy t-shirts there. Also, we've got a Facebook account at facebook.com slash roundtableband. That's where we post and

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news most regularly about what's going on with us. Gigs and whatnot. Probably mostly, you know, relevant to local people. But nonetheless, we sort of post first about, you know, releases and things like that and interviews and whatnot in there. We like to know what you're up to. Do you have a Twitter account? Nah, yeah. You've got to draw a line somewhere. That's our line, you know, Facebook, Twitter. I think a lot of investors say that exact same thing about Twitter. You've got to draw a line somewhere.

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And I cut you off. Is there anything else that you guys wanted to mention? Yeah, we're on SoundCloud as well. I know if you just look up Roundtable Melbourne, it'll direct you straight to it because there's a couple of roundtables floating around on SoundCloud. It's just the same stuff. Yeah, a Japanese band called Roundtable. And here in America, we have the delicious Roundtable pizza. So don't be confused by that. So Google these guys. Google these guys. It's Roundtable band, Roundtable slash Melbourne. You'll get

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to where you're going. Yeah, that's right. Excellent. All right. Before you go into the next song, I just want to say how much we appreciated you guys being our first Across the Ocean interview. Yes. My pleasure. We definitely appreciate the effort that it took to put all this together. And, you know, I've been talking to you for a while and we finally got to make it happen. So thank you very much for coming on. So the last song we're going to play is called The Siege of Uther's Keep. Can you talk about that a little? I guess lyrically,

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It's about a part in the story where the warlord Kral is sort of seeking revenge on his former ally, Uther, and launches a siege on his keep. So the song... I'm sorry. It's all coming together now. I understand the name now. The song is about that attack from beginning to finish. So he slowly lays waste to the forces of his enemy and then discovers that the

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We assembled a soundscape to set off the story a bit more. So at the beginning of the song, there's that sort of stuff throughout the album, which we kind of like the idea of. It'd be a bit different. But I guess it's a bit more pronounced in this song. At the beginning, there's a lot of sounds of the forces amassing and riding in and battle horns and whatnot. And then later in the song, you've got the sounds of battle and the rhythmic banging of the ram against the castle doors, etc.

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I thought you were gonna say wenches but that's cool too.

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A couple of those samples came from original recordings of Polish cavalry or something wasn't it back in...

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Oh really?

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Did you end up using them?

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No it was stuff from I think one of the sort of contributors on the site that I used was the sort of Finnish National Archives or something.

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Yeah that's right.

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So I think they were recordings from the 70s or 80s or something like probably reenactments or something of the Civil Wars or something.

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Yeah, there's some really cool stuff out there. Don't try to convince me any of those are medieval recordings, because that's just, you know, we're not. They sound pretty convincing. Fair enough, fair enough. We're glad to have you guys, man. Yeah, thanks for coming on. And like we said, make sure to look them up. They are Roundtable. And this is the song, The Siege of Uther's Keep. See you next time.

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Dawn's first race

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Creep over the eastern peaks The black horizon Stirs with foreign shapes The drowsing God Springs from his tormented state Lights, skirts and lips To reveal his certain fate

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The archers on the ancient wall Torn their bones, their shaking hands They both create a fearsome sight Rolling through the dusty veils They wonder at the horrid tales

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Семкингл,

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The arrows weighed down on crossbeds

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Here are they twist and fall, split their ranks and break in two. Keeping up their many pace, the frontal force, raise their shields above their heads to land protection. Let it come apart directly to the fortress wall.

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The liver of the western pike

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Spend the walls and fight one handed

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Blinging to the parapets

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Encroaching like a rising bomb

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They bring it to the clearing swing

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Spreading panic and confusion

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The slower of the gentleness

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The slower than the amicus

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The ancient Hulk, Roman priests, with each strike of the Iron Reb. Once it makes its function,

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Raiders force her entrance Like water under pressure Through the wounded gate

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Through the Great Hall empty to the intersection of the spiral staircase mining to Lord Huthers vacant suite. The coin chest is wide open

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In all its riches, the linen is immaculate and its writing holds on high

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Where are you now? Rebuild yourself And lean your face

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Where are you now?