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Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, metal's my religion, and yeah, it's my dope. Standing in the thunder on stage in the pouring metal rain. What a feeling, baby, the lights are exploding.

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And I don't need my gun. Metal's my religion.

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Yeah, it's my toy.

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It's safety from the politics, baby.

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Metal's my religion.

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Hello and welcome back to MetalDisciple.com's Metal Heads podcast. My name is George. And I'm Buke. And we are back again. It is now the holiday season. It's early December. We're starting to feel a little festive around here. Yeah, you got your Christmas satanic pentagram Christmas sweater on. That's right, man. Black. It's got red and green upside down crosses and a baphomet goat pentagram with a Santa hat on.

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Anything on the bottom? No. Just upside down crosses. Yeah, there's just more crosses and snowflakes on the back. We'll be getting into some more Christmas stuff this episode, but there's a few items of business we need to take care of first. First of all, the program that I'm using to, it's like a plug-in to host the podcast, unbeknownst to me, had a limit of 20 episodes that it would allow in the feed, which then propagates out to iTunes and the rest of the world.

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of the world. And so when I tried to post the last podcast, it said it was published, but it wouldn't show up in the feed. And I'm like, huh? What's going on? And I went to unpublish it and I accidentally unpublished the previous episode. And lo and behold, the new one showed up. I quickly surmised that there was a limit of 20 podcasts. I wrote to the developer and he came, he actually wrote me back and said, well, I'm working on this. There's going to be a fix. But in the meantime, you could do this, add this to the end of your feed.

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the feed URL and that'll take care of the problem. Problem is, for me to do that, I basically have to rebuild the feed, which I will not bore you with the technical details of that, but it's a lot of work and, you know, I'd have to resubmit to iTunes and I'd have to recreate the feed and it's just a big pain in the ass. So, I'm sort of playing a game of chicken with the developer of what's going to happen first. We run out of room or he fixes and rolls out a fix.

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I had to this. This is technically episode 19, but because of the two retrospective episodes and the barbecue special episode, we're technically at like 22. So I dropped the two retrospective episodes. I know you're going to be crushed. They've been unpublished. They haven't gone anywhere. They're just not published. Once this is resolved, I will put them back. Yeah. And we just wanted to say this in case you, and we'll remind you, you know, next episode also.

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If you've subscribed to the feed, and I know around the holiday time, we missed a couple weeks, but when you normally go to your podcast player and you pull up episodes, if it's not there every day or so, do another search for MetalDisciple.com's Metal Heads. Just search for it again. Hopefully, we don't have to navigate somewhere else.

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Move it. We'll give you guys, you know, enough heads up. And we hope you stay with us, you know. Yeah, if you're subscribed, you might have to resubscribe. But like I said, I'm hoping that he gets the fix out before too much longer. I mean, you know, I can just start unpublishing the early episodes. If we need to do like a revolving door of episodes, one goes out, one goes in. Until it gets fixed. Yeah. That's what we have to do. And if after a couple of months he hasn't gotten it done yet, then we'll just have to move on to

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something else.

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And then, of course, then they'll all be back.

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I'm sure you'll be missing the George Retrospective episodes quite dearly, so it pains me to have to do that, too.

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There's another couple of things about last episode that I wanted to mention.

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Probably nobody else noticed this, but when I went back and listened to it, when I was talking about Celtic Frost's Morbid Tales, and I was like, 30 years ago, you know, this came out, and this is the beginning of blah, blah, blah, you know, Trypticon,

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and Tom Warrior, I was fully aware of the fact that he had a previous band called Hellhammer. I just meant that it was the beginning of Celtic Frost. And in case anybody out there was going, you dumbass, don't you know about Hellhammer? Now, I know about Hellhammer. I just, I was referring to specifically Celtic Frost. So, in case you were cursing me out about that. And see, to me, you could have told me anything about them and they would have gone right over my head. I realize that probably goes over most people's heads, but for me, I'm a perfectionist. I wanted to clarify.

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that I was in fact aware of Hellhammer. I just hired people out there who knew too. Sure, sure. Also, I wanted to talk about when we talked about the Testament albums last time. And you jumped on me for a second saying Dave Lombardo was never in. No, no, no, no. It's not that. Okay. I actually went back and listened to Low. And I remembered why I really didn't listen to that era in Testament very much. Pretty much everything up until Low was a particular way. It was 80s thrash.

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And Lowe came out in, I think it was like 94 or something like that. And while it's awesome that James Murphy was on the album, because I love James Murphy, I was a little disappointed that they changed their style to try and fit in with the current scene. In 94, Death Metal was the thing. Yeah, Lowe was in 94. And while, you know, I can listen to it now and I go, that's a badass album. It wasn't that it was a badass album, or that it wasn't a badass album, that I didn't really listen to it. It was because I was a little disgusted that they were,

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changing with the time they were trying to fit into something else instead of doing

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their thing you know because chuck billy started doing a lot more deeper harsher vocals and

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you know compared to like vocals harsh vocals now is was nothing it was just sort of putting an edge on

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there and listening to it now i'm like this is fucking awesome but at the time i was just a little put

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out that i was like you know you're just trying to change with the times that's not real that's why you got to do

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that you know why you gotta why you got to change what you're doing just to try and fit in with the new

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Okay, so then when I mentioned last week The Gathering, that was my number two or three album. That was like two albums after that. Yeah, that was. That came out in 99. And that had, you know, my favorite song, DNR, on it. Right. And again, I mentioned Lombardo on drums. I'm not saying you had tapped out on Testament, but you were kind of like... I was, essentially. Yeah, that's what I was saying. You were kind of like, yeah, you're not into what they had evolved into at that point, right? What was the one between those?

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It was like James Murphy album, not James Murphy album.

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Demonic.

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Demonic, yeah.

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It was 97.

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And it was just, you know, those were heavier albums that I was just like, whatever, you guys changed.

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I'm just going to listen to the classic albums and, you know, do something else.

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And so it was sort of a lost years for me.

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And so while I saw them and I even bought them, I have the CDs, didn't give them that much attention, which is obvious since I didn't even know that Dave Lombardo played on The Gathering.

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And then from the gathering to the formations of damnation, almost nine years went by from 99 to 08.

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Right.

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Which is why when the formation came out, I was like, oh, yeah, Testament's back.

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I wonder what it's like.

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And I was like, oh, well, this is.

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And then I was happy because they had updated their sound to be more contemporary.

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But, you know, it took me a while to come around to that.

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And, you know, I'm not such a.

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And look at this now.

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Like we said last week or sorry, last episode, dark roots of the earth.

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It's amazing.

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Yes. Fresh. In fact, I was just coming back from the gym today and I stopped at the bank, which is why I delayed us 15 minutes. And as I was wearing my testament, uh, was that a hoodie? Sweatshirt? I don't know what you call it. Hoodie. When did the sweatshirts become a hoodie? I don't know. I'm old. They were called sweatshirts in my day. Whatever it is, I was wearing my testament one as I was going into the bank in the pouring rain. And some other guy who was of similarly, uh, aged as me,

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who you wouldn't ever look at and go,

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Metal Fan, like stopped me in the pouring rain and was like,

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dude, I love your sweatshirt.

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He's like, they have a new album coming out.

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I was like, yeah, next year.

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Leave me alone.

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I'm getting wet.

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But so yeah, Testament's still going strong.

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Yeah, Testaments, they certainly are.

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Yeah, when we saw them live a couple of times the past couple of years,

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amazing live show now.

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That totally blew me away how much energy they have up on stage

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and how much fun they seem to be having up on stage too.

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That's great.

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I mean, I'm so happy that Alex Skolnick is back in the band. Oh, can I mention something also that I was looking online? We talk about bands, you know, like Testament finding themselves and coming back again. I mentioned months back how happy I was to see Superjoint Ritual now playing under the name Superjoint reformed for the Hardcore Horror Fest. Why did they drop the Ritual? I don't know. Was it like a licensing, like, you know, rights?

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I'm not sure. Is somebody not in the band that owns the name? I don't. There was some problems between Phil and the drummer for a while. I don't know if it was rights and stuff like that. But now is the time of year when festivals for next year are starting to be shored up and artists are being named for big open air fests. Superjoint's playing open air festivals next year. In Europe? Yes. So there's a chance. There's hope. There's hope for my Superjoint ritual yet.

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will come back and come back around. Somebody needs to tap Phil on the shoulder and be like, hey, remember all those down EPs you were going to put out? You're supposed to put out four of them, I believe it was. You've put out two of them in like the last three years. I thought this was going to be like boom, boom, boom, boom, you know, sort of a we're not going to put out an album, we're just going to put out an EP every couple of months, not every couple of years. What's up with that? I've said it too, if we do the first Convincing George segment, they're the band that I'm starting,

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with first. It's fair enough. You'll probably get a good result out of that. Boy, I love those guys. I hope today this would turn into a U.S. tour. We get more Superjoint. Never can tell. All right, so back into this whole Christmas thing. Christmas is just around the corner. I haven't started shopping yet. I am not being a good consumer. I'm being pestered by my family to come up with ideas for things that I want. I'm like, I don't know. I don't have time. Leave me alone. But I was thinking the other day,

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Heavy Metal and Christmas. You know, not everybody that listens to Heavy Metal is a heathen or a pagan or a devil worshiper or what have you. I understand that. But at the same time, wouldn't it be a little odd for a hardcore true cult Black Metal fan to be into Christmas? You would think? Be like, yeah, Black Metal Man down with Christianity. But Merry Christmas. But Merry Christmas. Let's hang the stockings and let's put up the nativity scene. Yeah. So I'm like, well, maybe they don't.

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do that. Maybe they go old school and they're like, yeah, man, this is Yule. It's like pagan and stuff, you know? So, marry Yule, you. Yeah, but you wonder with how many of these guys, the black metal, true, how many of them actually practice that outside of them? Some do. Of course, some do. John from Dissection, he believed that pretty firmly as he shot himself. Yeah, I know he did. But you wonder how many of them actually believe it.

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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I like it all. And I'm not, you know, I am not a religious person. I do Christmas solely as a consumer holiday. I don't have any deeper meaning behind it than that. But I'm not going to go and be like, no, man, it's you. It's Christmas, whatever. You know, it's a holiday for everybody. It doesn't matter if it's religious or not. Even if you don't believe in it, I have no problem admitting I'm Catholic. I was raised it my whole life.

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Sometimes the meaning escapes me. It turns into a consumer thing. Sure. But I have no problem if people want to celebrate another holiday of giving and spending time with family. Sure. I mean, you know, Slayer, one of the biggest, most evil bands out there, Tom Araya. Yeah. Many times has come out. Yeah, he's religious. I think he might be Catholic as well. He is. He's actually come out and said that, hey, he doesn't believe it. It just makes for a badass subject matter. Exactly. So, you know, whatever.

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And that'll lead us into,

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we were,

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we were,

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you and I were sitting around talking last week,

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doing a prep for this.

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And we were thinking,

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Hey,

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for the metal heads in your life,

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what would be a good gift?

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Exactly.

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And so I don't know about you,

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but I came up with a list of some ideas,

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some of them holiday related,

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some of them just kind of cool ideas.

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The first one that instantly jumps to mind,

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a hundred bucks,

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go to your local Best Buy,

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go on Amazon,

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Sony.

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I think you and I both have it.

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The turntable.

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The Sony turntable is a excellent,

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Excellent gift to have. Yes, vinyl is cool. I mean, it's starting to bug me because vinyl is actually becoming so popular that it's trendy. I hate to say it. Yeah, it is. And so I kind of cringe every time I start to expound upon my love of vinyl because I know somewhere somebody is going, hipster. And also, to me, us going to the store. I go to the store just like you a couple times a week, even if I don't buy anything.

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Just to browse. It's starting to seem like it's turning into a money grab quickly. Oh, yeah. Because they're seeing that people are buying vinyl. Just reissuing everything. Just reissuing everything. And hey, let's reissue it again in a box set. I can't believe you bought that Dio Record Store Day thing and they totally raped you in the ass. I know. You're like, ooh, let me pay, what did you pay, like $18? $18, yeah. $18 for like- For two tracks. Three tracks from the Tribute album and three live tracks.

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When I paid... 18 probably for the whole album, right? I paid a little more than that, but I got the whole thing double album, red vinyl. Just normal, not record store day. So I... Okay, I did. I'm a gimmick. I fell for the gimmick. I fall for them, too. Mastodon. I got the Motherlode. The 10-inch or... Was it 10-inch or 7-inch? No, it's 10. 10, yeah. Picture disc. Motherlode on the front. That's it. Do you have the album on vinyl? Yes.

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Point. It was a pretty picture disc. Yeah. 18 bucks. Hey, well, I fall hard, too. Like I told you last night over a text message, I, you know, Century Media just reissued, like, most of the In Flames catalog on vinyl, and I ordered six of them. Two of them I don't even like! It was, like, the soundtrack and reroute, I think, were the ones that I've never been a fan of, but I was so happy.

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I just got caught up because I was like ooh clay man ooh Oracle ooh just erase ooh colony I don't want to go off on a quick side note here but yesterday I went to Soundgarden which is probably the greatest music store squirrel it's probably the greatest music store around in this area in this area hands down that's probably one of the best in the nation has to be we should do a tour of the country and find out can I tell you guys how much it breaks my heart when I

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I leave their store yesterday with my little bag of records little bag and I oh no what's doing dollar bag of records and I send George a message saying oh yeah I got this and that doom album I got yesterday funeral circle yeah and I'm like I kicked you in the balls and said yeah that's not real good for George to tell me I I saw that I passed on it yeah oh it's funny because you just did that to me when I got those a storm of light albums only I know that they're good yeah I've seen them for like the past month I know they're good

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I tried to Spotify them in the store. The signal was bad. So I'm like, yeah, the album covers. Cool. It's got to be good. It's not terrible. It just wasn't enough to hook me to want to because there was so much other stuff in there. If it was like only two or three albums there that I was getting, I would have bought it too. The album art's cool. Yeah. But given how much, you know, you drop a couple hundred dollars there easy. Out of doubt. So it was

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It was just, you know, it was on the fringe of what was, I was like, something's got to stay. You have to stay. Okay, the people who like structure and order are going crazy right now. Back to the gift guide. So a turntable is a great gift. Maybe to go along with it, a pair of headphones. Yep, I was going to say the headphones that Buk and I are using right now are the Motorhead motorizer headphones. They got the cool Motorhead logo on the side. They're the big over-the-ear headphones. They're, I'm not going to give you a price, you know, they're not cheap, but it's

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As far as headphones go, they're not that expensive either. And personally, I think they sound really great. I've got some other ones that I use for reviewing and stuff that are like in-ear ones that are even more pricey. But these are a fairly good priced and a good quality headphone. They're geared and set up for listening to hard rock and heavy metal. So that would be a nice gift to get somebody. Actually, Amazon has them right now for $90. Nice. Yeah, I paid at least $30, $40 more than that. Yep.

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Magazine subscriptions to Heavy Metal Magazines. First of all, we've got to keep them alive. Yes. Second of all, it's funny that I'm going to actually promote them. The two that I like the most, Metal Hammer and Terrorizer. I know I was busting on Metal Hammer earlier in the year, but that's on a business level. On a content level, I like what Metal Hammer does. The two British magazines, they are just badass. You could also go with Decibel and Revolver. To a point, they're okay, but they're kind of lame, too, in some aspects.

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But, you know, a magazine, keeping abreast of the metal situation. I pour over all four of these magazines every month. That's how I find out about new bands. I'm like, I read the articles, I look at the reviews, and I pour over the advertisements, you know, because there's just tons of ads in there for, you know, little labels and stuff. And I'm like, oh, who's this band? Okay, check them out, listen to them. That's my obsessive compulsive disorder is trying to find new bands, and that's how I do it.

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So another thing I saw that was interesting that I

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I'm half tempted to get but can't quite justify is the King Diamond Garden Gnome. Have you seen that?

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Awesome. That's a little badass dude, man.

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I'm sure if you Google that you can find it. It's pretty cool.

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Yeah, I was also thinking I know, you know, money situations vary, you know, person to person.

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If you have, hey, $20, even $9, you can spare a month. You want to give it for, you know, husband, wife, boyfriend, girlfriend, even for a friend. If you don't have the money to go out and buy vinyl records every month, a Spotify subscription makes an excellent gift. Sure. Because you and I countless times have on the fly when we're out and about. Even now, you mentioned a band. Eight times out of ten, it's on there. Yeah, yeah. They're pretty good with metal. I got to give them that. Yeah, so it beats going out.

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I'm trying to illegally download it. Just stream it. It helps the artists get some revenue from it. Barely. Yeah, barely. But still. Yeah, it's better than not doing anything. You could take the music on the flying with you. So I thought that was a pretty good gift. Yeah. Another one I've got is a book that I read this year that I thought was pretty cool. It's called Black Metal Evolution of the Cult. It's a really thorough, really in-depth book on black metal. If you're into black metal, it's a really good read. Another kind of silly item that I came across was

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Metallica Monopoly. Look, what exactly is that? Is that like, you know, Headfield Boulevard and, you know, Hammett Street? Would the Black Album be Boardwalk? I don't know. I don't know. I couldn't really see the board to see what was on it, but apparently there's an ACDC version as well. And even, you know, I don't read as much as you, but one of the books that got me actually up to speed on a lot of history is that book, A Sound of the Beast. Yeah.

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I can't remember who wrote that is that Ian Christie yes yes yeah excellent excellent book on history from the early days you know Sabbath blue cheer type of stuff all the way up to where we're at when the book was written a couple years back yep I've got that one too yeah great book oh there's a great this was a great summer for a year actually for documentaries yeah the Lemmy documentary yep I was gonna I'm sorry I know I didn't I was going to put it on my list but I forgot to but that was one

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is a good one to get the limy documentary you may shy away from it the alice cooper

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documentary was released yeah anything sam done is good you know there's the evolution evolution yeah

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is that what it's called or metal evolution metal evolution something like that yeah someone like that

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like a series and that was really good it was didn't come out this year but you can also get the uh

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flight 666 the iron maiden documentary and then of course there's the lamb of god one that just came out

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as the palace is burned don't need to watch that i haven't watched it yet you and i need to have

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You should try and hold out. You're going to have a viewing party. Exactly. And we're coming out here and share our thoughts. Which are actually, I'll tease it. If you want to watch a documentary, we're going to have an interview with Cam Pipes on the show later. If you want to go online, we can include the notes in the podcast notes. Three Inches of Blood earlier this year released a documentary on their touring throughout Canada. Really? I didn't know that. Yep. Wow. So that was actually what the basis of the interview was for, to talk about that.

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It's a documentary. It's released online. They were followed around for a couple months on this tour as they trekked all throughout Canada. As you may have guessed by my ignorance of the documentary, I was not a part of this interview. Buke ventured out on his own and got this one. So I haven't actually heard it yet either. So we'll see what happens. What else you got? It's the Christmas spirit and who doesn't want some spirits? Obviously, most people by now have probably heard of the Iron Maiden Trooper beer, which,

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I was going to mention this in the news, but did you see that they're going to be releasing them in the U.S. in Tallboys? Yes. In cans? I was like, what? I was like, well, you know, I'm optimistic about this because maybe I can get it in a keg. You know, if they're going to be bottling it more here, maybe it's possible to get it on tap because I would love to have that on tap. It's, you know, it's not the best beer out there, but it's Iron Maiden beer and it's pretty good beer, I think. It's not the best, but it's certainly no, you know,

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Pabst.

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like 30 years. Yep. Yep. So just saying, hey, maybe for those of you with a little more classy palates. Well, I think Motorhead has a wine too, but they also have a vodka and something else. But, you know, it's impossible to find. If you know where you can find that, I'd love to get a hold of that too. Perhaps you're more of a foodie than a drinkie. The Sword have their own brand of hot sauce called Tears of Fire. I'd like to try that out as well. That sounds kind of good. I like spicy things. I like

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hot sauces. You picked up the guar barbecue sauce? Yes, which I have not cracked yet. I better look at that and see how long it's good for. I meant to do something. I was waiting to do some grilling, and I don't think I did any grilling after barbecue this year. Remember that fine thing about edible metal stuff? When I was downtown in our local record shop, I saw that anthrax killer bees. I went in there looking for it after you mentioned that. I didn't see it. It was actually jam, I mean honey,

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Made from killer bees. Yeah, and it was old because that came out in like

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91 92 something like that is maybe even older

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So that probably wasn't very tasty anymore honey actually a strong fun fact honey never goes goes bad really? Yep

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Well, honey is one of the only foods that never goes bad. It'll harden right?

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They don't never go bad you can heat it up again. Well, I still wouldn't eat it

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No, I wouldn't eat it either, but I would have liked to have had that on the shelf

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I also want to say this too. You have turned me on to it. If you're looking where to get a lot of these stuff, these items, and you don't have a local record shop nearby, because they are dying, you may have a Best Buy or something like that. And if they are selling vinyl, they're selling a small rack of the popular stuff. You've turned me on to Amazon. Oh, yeah. How extensive their vinyl collection is. And, you know, I've got Prime. So a lot of these, I'll be like, oh, okay,

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Well, the new Bloodbath. Okay, well, Amazon has it. Or I can get it from Soundstage Direct. You look at them side by side, and the prices are the same. Difference is Amazon's going to ship it to me for free. The shipping is almost half the cost of the record. Yeah, yeah. And so I've been sort of going towards Amazon for a lot of my pre-orders and things like that. Unfortunately, they're not real prompt.

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Yeah, Bloodbath. And there was a line of Deathless King's My Dying Bride that also was released last week on vinyl. They haven't even shipped yet. They gave me the Bloodbath, I think it was, they gave me, maybe it was the My Dying Bride. One of them, they gave me a ship date of like end of December. I'm like, really? And like Exodus, when that one came out, they moved it back. And the Iron Maiden singles, a couple of them. I finally have them all, but you know, they got held up. I don't know, too much demand, whatever. But so if you don't mind waiting, the price is right.

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Yeah.

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The only other thing that I had to mention as far as a gift was Christmas songs.

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The Twisted Sister, A Twisted Christmas album.

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I grew up a big Twisted Sister fan.

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I love Dee Snider.

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They do some pretty rockin' versions of Christmas songs on there.

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There's also another one.

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I think it's called A Very Metal X-mas or something like that.

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That's the one where you can get Dio and Iomi doing God Rest You Merry Gentlemen.

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That is like the best Christmas song ever.

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So that's what I got for gifts.

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Yeah, and of course, you know, a shirt always works. You know what I think sucks, though, is how lame it is that you can't order beer online because there's so many cool things. Like, what's his name, Adam, who is in one of those magazines I just bashed, his Brutal Truth column. You know, they feature some really cool beers in there. And you're like, well, where can I get it? I don't know. If I could just order it online, that would be hella easy. I realize it probably has to do, well, actually, a small reason of it is so kids can't order alcohol.

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But I think it has a lot to do with licensing and shipping and taxes and, you know, crossing state lines and bullshit like that. But come on, there's got to be a way. And there's some states where you can ship wine. Yeah. But you can't do beer. It's crazy. It's like when I was in Wyoming and I had that moose drool. Remember? Do you have some of that when you were out there, weren't you? Yeah, when I was in Yellowstone, I had it. Yeah. And I was like, moose drool, that's pretty cool shit, you know, but you can't get it around here. If I could be like, hey, ship me some moose drool.

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That would be a good thing. Trooper beer. It's not available everywhere. I'd like to be able to get that. Running Wild has a mead. I'd like to be able to get that. Ghost has their grail. Yes. I haven't been able to find that yet. If I could order it online, that would be helpful. So maybe when Will joins us on the future episode, he can enlighten us. Possibly find us a way around it. Like, how do you get beer? How do we skirt the system? Exactly. So...

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Also keeping in the holiday spirit too. We, uh, it's a little cheesy, but George and I were having fun with it. Yeah. We have put together our holiday naughty or nice list. Yep. So, uh, you want to go ahead and start it out who we have on the list? All right. Well, this one didn't actually happen this year. Um, but it sort of bled over into this year. Uh, this is my first naughty. That would be Tim Lambesis. You naughty, naughty boy. Don't try to have people killed.

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He was sentenced this year. How long did he get? Nine years, I believe. Nice. See ya, sucker. So definitely naughty for him. And like we talked about last episode, Wino. Also on the naughty list. Naughty. He's kinking off the meth. He's hoping that Santa won't leave him coal, but he'll leave him a pile of meth and stocking this year. Then he could end up like our next naughty, Dave Brockie.

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Deceased, while Dave was a nice guy, he was a little naughty with the heroin, and well, now he's not with us anymore. The fact that he has deprived us of him and deprived himself of all that he could have done with the rest of his time, I think that's naughty. Yeah. On the nice side, you gotta give Baby Metal. They're just cute little Japanese girls. Come on. Love them, hate them. They're cute little Japanese girls. Come on. They're nice. When I saw that Metal Sucks poll this past week, that that was what the Readers picked as the album of the year,

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I slid out a scream. I'm not behind that. No. You know, the music's okay for what it is, but... They will never be in my ears. You can't take that as a serious thing. No. I mean, come on. But yes, they are nice, you know, fun little girls doing metal. Yeah, it's cool. And while he's not bringing you any presents for Christmas, King Diamond gave us a present by coming back and going out on tour this year, and so I'm putting him in the nice list. And he may not like that, but he's on my nice list.

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Also on my naughty list, Phil Rudd from ACDC. He tried. He didn't actually try to lambesis, but I read, I think it was yesterday, that he just, the only reason, the only thing he did was make a threat over the phone saying he was going to have somebody killed. Like, really? You can arrest people for that? That's fucked up. So, eh, he's kind of naughty in that he got in trouble anyway. You know, on my nice list, and actually, this was before speaking to him, and even after talking to him more, Brian Slagle. All right.

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For the fact that he continues to wave the flag of heavy metal. And take time to talk to nobodies like us. Yes. But, you know, he continues in his label, Metal Blade, to put out excellent releases, you know, championing in new bands. So he's definitely nice. All right. Well, you know who my final nice on the list is? Tomarea. Or as I like to call him, Santa Claus. Have you seen the latest picture of him?

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Big, bushy, gray beard. I'm like, dude looks like Santa Claus. He does. You know, he's the metal Santa Claus. He's bringing metal to all the little good and bad boys and girls. That's the metal Santa Claus. That's awesome. That's all I got for that. All right. You want to get into some news? Yeah. On a downer note, I was just busting on Dave about his wine, but unfortunately, Dave Mustaine's mother-in-law's remains,

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were found roughly half a mile from the campground where she went missing. I assume she died of exposure or something. We're sorry to hear about that. Isn't that tragic when you hear these stories pop up every so often of people with Alzheimer's or dementia? And you always hear how tragically close they're found to where they went missing from. Yeah, they were talking about all the people that were out canvassing the woods. Well, a half mile isn't that far away. They obviously didn't canvas that far.

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find her. It's just tragic because you wonder, you know, did somebody walk after her? If there's, you know, you would think going from where she was first missing out, make a circle. God, you hope nobody maybe walked past her. She was down somewhere in bushes or something. Or maybe she was confused and she was scared and she heard people and she got scared and she hid. So they didn't see her, you know, who knows? But our condolences to Dave and his family. That's not the only bad news on the Megadeth camp this past week. Guitarist Chris Broderick and drummer Sean Drover have both quit Megadeth. Wow.

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I don't expect that'll happen. But wouldn't that be something if he did? And wouldn't it be something if I had no idea that that happened until like 15 years later? Have you heard online too what the lineup may be that people would like to see? The classic Rust in Peace lineup possibly getting back together? I don't see it happening. That's what the talk on the internet was. Well, that's what I would like to see that too.

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But Marty Friedman has been pretty clear about his not having any need to come back to Megadeth. He's perfectly happy doing what he's doing playing pop music in Japan. And Nick Menza, I know he's got some other project going on. And as far as I know, he and Dave weren't getting along. So I don't know. I would love to see it happen. Yes. What if it happens and then the crap that's been released from Megadeth the past couple years is wiped away? They come out and they just hit us hard with something. Stranger things have happened like Metallica.

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and Megadeth getting along. So obviously anything's possible, but... You have to think, when two members leave like this at the same time, something serious has to be happening in that band. Could be. I don't know. We will see what happens. So this kind of came out of the blue, but next month in January, Napalm Death are going to be releasing a new album called Apex Predator. I know you're a big fan of Napalm Death, and by big fan, I mean not a big fan. I need to listen to them. I don't even know where to start with them. Yeah, they've been around for so long, and they're sound

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It's kind of evolved from the early days to the Barney years. Only album I know by that. What's that? Scum? Scum, yeah. It's considered a grindcore classic. That early stuff's a little too raw for me, like some of the early, early carcass. But yeah, some of the later stuff's not too bad. You've never really been... Not a big fan, no. I pick up the odd album every couple of years. I'll get a new one just to see how they're doing. I'll probably pick up this one. Another album coming out.

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The Depths on January 27th. I call it Venom, but it's really just Kronos and some other dudes. I'm not sure what I think about that. Venom really hasn't been Venom for quite some time. I'm a big fan of the early Venom stuff. I've listened to some of the middle later years stuff. You know, it's alright, but at this point it's just Kronos. While at least he's the singer, meh, you know, I think I'm just going to stick to the old stuff. Did you see this thing about Cannibal Corpse in Russia? Yeah. Apparently the translation of their lyrics has been

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ruled illegal because of the violent content. So you can probably, you can listen to cannibal corpse in English apparently, but do not translate it into Russian or you will be breaking the law. Not surprised with how they treat bands who are controversial. Or anybody over there for that matter. We like their hockey players, but. Yeah, that's about it. And you know, vodka. Their government policy on acceptance is kind of. Yeah, it's pretty bad. So I don't know if you've heard this yet, but I just listened to the lyric video for Blind

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Guardian's new single Twilight of the gods did you hear this mm-hmm I listened to it yesterday and there was a glimmer of hope I'm like okay you know I sort of got out of them the last couple albums because I have it just kind of it's all gang vocal you know I don't know it's only like singing song yeah exactly that's what I'm going for yes and it's like I like the gang vocal as much as the next person but they really were overusing it it's like the half the song is gang vocal and I'm just like man I don't

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I don't care about this very orchestral and

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recently as of late a lot yeah and I like that stuff but they just kind of overused a lot like when I picture a lot of their songs now and how they've kind of evolved it's kind of like when you're at a concert you put your arms around the two guys next to and you're just heave ho and singing along you know

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we'll all go down together

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that's Billy Joel by the way

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but yeah good night Saigon

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Yes.

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See, look at that call. Look at that guy. My mom would be so proud.

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Yeah.

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Wow. Man, that's awesome. I called that.

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I can't believe you did that.

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I'm a big Billy Joel fan, just in case you want to bash on me.

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I have his vinyls. I got like eight of them.

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Yeah, me too.

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But anyway.

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That's what's scoring some points there.

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So I listened to the song, and they have gang vocals, but there was a lot of cool guitar stuff.

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The production was really clean and it wasn't overburdened with just, you know, the kitchen sink and everything. The song had a little more room to breathe. So, you know, the first half of the song, it was a lyric video. I was reading the lyrics along and I shouldn't do that because then I'm paying more attention to what he's saying than what's going on around it. And so I closed my eyes and listened to the second half of the song and I had hope. So we'll see what happens. I, of course, immediately went out and pre-ordered the vinyl.

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You're crazy. I know. So can I talk about lyrics real quick? I'm glad you just mentioned it. I was listening last night and on the way over here to the newest Josta episode. Okay. His podcast, his interviews are great. He was talking, did you hear, he was talking to Jesse from Killswitch Engage? No, since I've started telecommuting for my job. Oh, your podcast listening. My podcast listening has gone down dramatically.

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I need to figure out a way. I like to listen to it in the car when I'm in the car. When you're at your desk, just put on headphones. Yeah. I mean, I've been so busy this month that I've had to focus on other things. And so even if I put it on, I'm not going to hear it. Podcasting. Just kind of in the background. Yeah. You can do that with music, but a podcast, if you're not paying attention, you're not really going to get anything out of it. But him and Jesse were talking about lyrics. Okay. And it kind of hit me, maybe because I'm dense.

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I don't really ever find a connection with lyrics like this song's talking to me man yeah I never again I say I'm dense because I never read a couple lines and be like oh this means this or what did he mean on this I just listen to the songs to hear the song yeah as much as opeth I've listened to over the years I've never even gone back and read the lyrics and

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and try to see what's it mean.

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Yeah.

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It had me thinking, do you do that with lyrics at all?

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Not anymore.

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When I was a young lad in my teens, in high school, I, you know, get a Metallica album,

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pour over the lyrics, learn every lyric, every Metallica song, every Megadeth song,

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every Slayer song.

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Because my world was so much smaller then, I could do that.

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I could realistically pick a couple of bands and just get that into them.

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But once I was in my 20s and I had more moolah to blow on music, I just went nuts, you know, and it hasn't ever slowed down. I've just constantly consuming music and there's no time for me to get that in depth. And frankly, a lot of the music I like, I don't really give a shit about the lyrics. I mean, like death metal, black metal, particularly death metal. I mean, unless it's cannibal corpse and I'm curious because they have some truly amusing ways to kill people in there, you know.

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and barbed wire and something like, you know, I might read that just to get a laugh out of it or whatever. But if otherwise, I don't really care. But there are the odd band out that for whatever reason, either their vocals are intelligible enough that I make them out on my own or something about it makes me go to the lyric sheet that they really connect to me. Great example, Woods of Epre. Those lyrics are a big part of why I'm such a big Woods of Epre fan. It's funny you mentioned Josta. That is actually one of the things

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that has pulled me into Hatebreed a little bit is that he's got cool, empowering, powerful lyrics. And that's what he talks about on the episode. And I'm like, yeah, you know, okay. I'm not a big fan of hardcore because it kind of all just, you know, they, they, they scream. They don't enunciate too much. There's not a lot of dynamic range there. And I tend to get bored. But in the case of Hatebreed and Josta, the lyrics are cool enough that I'm like, okay, well, this is a reason to listen to it.

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because I dig what he's saying. I guess I'm hearing the lyrics in the moment. Simple example that everybody listening here could understand. If I throw out sentence or blah, blah, blah, it could go over many people's heads. Sentence is another great example. Metallica. Disposable Heroes. Right. Okay. The lyrics are right there. The song's talking about soldiers charging in to battle. Yeah. The lyrics are cool. I'm hearing them right there in that moment. I could, you know, you could picture.

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The visual going along with the song. But as soon as that next track goes on, I'm not so sad, oh man, that was deep. Right. Well, you know, like one of the greatest heavy metal songs of all time, as far as I'm concerned, Angel of Death by Slayer. The lyrics do have meaning. Of course they do. I mean, you know, about Dr. Mangala and Auschwitz and things like that. Those are deep and meaningful lyrics. But at the same time, if you're not a fan of history or you just don't give a crap,

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You can get into Angel of Death and rock your ass off without giving a crap about what the song's about. And that's kind of tragic in a way, but it's not essential to get into the music. Yeah, so listening to this episode, it made me think maybe, you know, we can do this more with vinyl, is that if, you know, we're sitting there with our nice speakers or headphones, you can sit there, open the vinyl, and really, just like the old days, sit there and just read along again. So maybe I need to start going back and doing it.

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I just wanted to get your take on the lyrics. Yeah, because I find that the songs and the albums that I make that connection to are the ones that stand out to me more and mean more to me in the long run. So, yeah, obviously, you know, do what you will. Yeah, because it was weird because I heard this interview and I thought, hey, when I listen to music, I'm just listening to the music. The lyrics are just, to me, part of the music. I've never, again, heard something and be like, wow,

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Do you just hear that line? It's because not everybody has, you know, some lyrics are, they have a cause or, I mean, a cause like, oh, you know, we're protesting. Whatever. Human rights or whatever. And if you're not part of that cause, then it doesn't mean anything to you. But some people are looking for that cause or that. If you haven't had relationship problems, a song talking about relationships, you wouldn't understand. If you haven't had depression and loneliness and, you know. Exactly. You know, you can like a song.

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without relating to the content of the song. But when you do relate to it, that's when it really makes a connection. Cool. Right on. And to finish up the news here, we had to spend a lot of episodes in our short run here, 19 episodes in, about talking about Opeth and my love for them. And they released their newest album this year, a couple months back, Pale Communion. I've had mixed things about it, where it'll end up on my list, if it ends up on my metal albums of the year list.

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I will take some serious thought but there was talk like there always is talk with Opeth in recent years as if they're done with the heavy stuff and I just wanted to make note that here George and I are recording this on a Saturday that earlier this week this the fourth Opeth kicked off their tour with In Flames here in the States and they only played two songs off of the new album really yep and the rest was off of Heritage I'm not gonna spoil it for anybody if you want to if you

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They have videos

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of, no, the videos that, and I take this story from Skulls and Bones, they have videos of them playing these songs at various times over the years. I would assume you can't play Deliverance, one of their heaviest songs, and not. Yeah, that would, even Mike would not have the balls to go and be like, all right, we're going to retool these all to have clean vocals now. That would seriously, I'd have to take a look at the band if they were to ever do that.

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that. I'd be curious to hear it just like once, you know, just to be like, hey, what's this sound like with clean vocals? But yeah, I don't. He's got to be doing it with the harsh vocals. Has to. So if you were wondering, they're playing the old stuff. They're on tour now with In Flames and Red Fang. They're not coming here because I would be there. But yeah, I can't believe they're not coming here. I don't understand it. Weird. All right. Well, we've actually been going quite a while now and we still have to get into the new releases. So let's check that out. There's not much

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I was really scraping the barrel here because this is that time of year when music releases just kind of slow down until January. Last episode, what I was listening to was Eye of Solitude and their Dear Insanity EP. One long 50-minute song. That came out this past week. There's another band, Moore's Principium Est Dawn of the Fifth Era. Kind of death metal, melodic death metal sort of stuff. I've heard them before. I haven't actually listened to this one yet, but I've heard them before in the past and it was pretty good.

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There's a Samael reissue of Solar Soul. Not one of my favorite albums from the band, but there you have it. And then this next band, they're called Triosphere, and they're releasing their new album, The Heart of the Matter. Not a huge fan of the band, but I bought their last album when I was in Norway. They're from Trondheim, and I don't think I was actually in Trondheim. I think it was in Tromso at the time when I bought it. But, you know, it was a Norwegian band that I bought in Norway, so it has a little

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special place in my heart. And so I thought I would mention that they have a new album out. Finally, there's two Voivod re-releases. Infinii and Katorz are both being reissued this week as well. And nothing really excites me this week. Just like I've told before, I'm a big video game guy. Video game releases for the year are pretty much done right now. Maybe the occasional indie release or something comes out. Yeah. But this holiday season, probably to about, what, February? No, January's got some good stuff.

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Oh, wow. You know, Blind Guardian's coming out in January, and Silosis is coming out in January, and Napalm Death is coming out in January, so January picks up again. Can I mention a new release? Actually, was it last week? The new EP from Early Man? Yes. Did you hear that thing? Yes. Oh, man, Mike. Oh, that is amazing. We should probably get the frickin' title of it. Yeah, that new Early Man EP is called You Fancy Me Mad, and there's three new songs on there.

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Mike was on here. He was talking about how he's just going to start, you know, releasing like EPs like constantly and be just incredibly prolific. Hopefully he doesn't oversaturate, you know, because that is something that you have to be concerned about. It's not something most bands have to be concerned about these days because nobody releases shit anymore. It's like three years between albums, but I'm always on board for more early man. So check that out. You know, he just put out the Halloween EP on Halloween and now here we are a little over.

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A month later, boom, another EP. So check that out. You get that on Bandcamp. It's like five bucks for a download. Yeah, it's really, really good. So we're going to get into an interview now. I had the pleasure, not spur of the moment, but unfortunately George wasn't able to join me because of my doing and because Cam lives in Vancouver, so there's a three-hour time span where he's behind us. He works. So a weeknight at like one o'clock interview with Cam.

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For those of you who don't know, I'll say it again. He's the lead singer of Three Inches of Blood, an almost return to classic new wave of British heavy metal type of sound that Three Inches of Blood has. His falsetto vocals are definitely at the forefront of the band. Various lyrical topics from fantasy to hockey. Yeah. To fantasy hockey.

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You know this song about storming Juneau Beach in World War II. Yeah. So this interview we talk about, they earlier this year released a documentary called Three Inches of Blood, Warriors of the Great White North. And this documentary was Cam's friend filmed them in a van as they went around touring Canada. So you're hearing this interview, you know, we talk about the band, what they're doing.

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a hiatus where they're each in their various jobs and stuff like that. They kind of got a little burnt out from the Relentless touring that they had been doing. Again, they're not throwing in the towel. They're just taking some time off right now. Again, we're putting client in the notes, but Vimeo, I think, is the site. Okay. So you can watch it on there? You can watch it on there. It costs like three bucks. Sweet. I'm going to be doing that. Yep. So here we go. Here's the interview with Cam Pipes of Three Inches of Blood. All right. We'll see you after.

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Okay, this is MetalDisciple.com's Metal Heads podcast, and this is Buke, and I'm flying solo tonight. I am joined by Cam Pipes from my favorite group, Three Inches of Blood. What's going on, Cam? Oh, you know, just hanging out. Just hanging out, huh? Yeah. I just got done watching. First of all, I just got done watching my Capitals inch past the avalanche there, so I just have to ask you to start. Okay. Are you happy with the Vancouver season?

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Yeah, I've got the game on pause right now against Anaheim because they're going to overtime, so I'm just waiting on that. I've missed pretty much the whole game being out all night, but listening to bits and pieces on the radio. I'm not going to spoil it, and I'm not going to take you a lot from it, you know? No, no problem, man. It's on pause, so I can watch it whenever. I'm going to say work and evening shift. I watch every single game on DVR. So for the listeners out there,

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This is one that you guys have heard me saying numerous times. That three inches of blood in the 20 years or so I've been listening to metal is my favorite group in metal next to Opeth that's come out. You want to give a little history for yourself about the band and the type of sound that you guys have for many people who haven't heard? Well, the best way to describe us really is we're a heavy metal band.

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I mean, that's really the best way to describe it. Our influences are very classic and traditional, so I think that's what you'll hear if you've never heard us before. It's really the best way to describe it. I mean, people have lumped us into their made-up sub-genres or whatever, but I think just classic metal. Now, Kim, for those who haven't heard, your voice is the best in metal, in my opinion.

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High Pitch, one that you associate with Rob Halford, King Diamond. Has that something that throughout the years you've had to try and carve out your own name or people just say, oh, you're just trying to be the next king? No, no one's ever accused me of trying to be like somebody. I just get a lot of people saying, oh, you remind me of this guy or are you influenced by this guy because you sound a lot like me.

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I like him. And yeah, so no one's ever tried to call me out and call me some kind of imitator, which is awesome. And it's equally awesome compared to guys like Rob Halford or King Diamond and guys like that, guys who I love. Was that something when you first started singing you just naturally went with? I guess. I didn't try and emulate anybody.

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That's just kind of how it came out. I just developed it on my own. When I first joined the band, I was really not very well trained. I mean, I've never had training, but I guess I've never really sung in a band like this before. It was just something I could kind of do. Just kind of driving in my car, singing along to aforementioned bands, King Diamond being a big one, actually.

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Just hitting those screams on songs off Abigail were kind of like my favorites. So, you know, it's something that in the early days of the band, I just kind of developed and worked on myself and found my own voice, as it were. And I think over the albums, especially compared to our first record, Battle Cry, then to Advance and Vanquish, I think there's a very,

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I can hear it yes and I think that just came with time and playing more shows and and collectively just getting better at writing songs so knowing what I had on my hands and then knowing what to do with it were were things I had to learn yeah now when you joined the when you guys formed you know when you started putting out battle cry under a winter sun were you one of the first

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members with the group and the guys then? No. I came into it, they hadn't really been active for that long, but they were all guys I knew. We were all living in the same city at the time, and eventually, you know, they just kind of got wind of me being able to do falsetto vocals. Back then, like, Three Inches of Blood was very,

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Heavily into the gallopy, Iron Maiden style. No one, at least in our neck of the woods, from what I can tell in Canada or maybe even the U.S. No one here in the States around me that I can think of. Yeah, this was late 90s. No one was really doing that. No new bands were doing that anyway. Jamie Hooper was the only vocalist.

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He was a hardcore screamer kind of guy. He can do falsettos. You can hear it in some of the really way older stuff. But he didn't really lean towards that too much. So I think with what they were playing with this gallopy, new wave of British heavy metal style,

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with them they heard like oh i heard you can do falsettos like do you want to do some guest vocals on a song on our on our demo so i was like okay cool and uh um after they heard it they were like oh that's that's great do you want to do it on the whole demo so i was like all right how do you do i have do you want to give me some direction on what you want me to put in there and they're like oh you know just do whatever you want pretty much so um i i i sort

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I've consulted Jamie, I'm like, okay, what are the lyrics to this song? And more or less, I just almost doubled what he was already doing, but just with what I was doing. And, you know, it was fun just laying that down. And I never, I thought the idea of being in a band would be really cool, but I didn't want to, like, step on anyone's toes. I'm like, well, they've already got a singer. They probably don't want two singers. And then eventually one day they're like, hey, do you want to join the band as a second vocalist? I was like, yeah, totally.

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By that point, a lot of them had moved to Vancouver from Victoria, where we were at the time. I'd been living in Victoria for 12 years or so, and that was kind of, I wasn't doing anything musically at the time, and I was just like, this is my out, I need to get out of this city, and so I made the leap and moved to Vancouver.

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Unless you could skate, you know, maybe you could be like, you know, a tough guy role, you know?

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Yeah, and I couldn't skate.

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Oh, come on.

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A lot of them, actually most of those guys who were in the band with me at the time, they did skateboard, but not me. I used to, you know, back in the 80s. I did a little bit when I was a kid, but I never was really very good at it. I still have that old skateboard that I grew up with, but it's cracked. But I still maintain it just for, like, memories, you know. So then the band moves, and that's right around, what's it, the 2003, 2002 time, or is this still the 90s?

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I joined the band in early 2001, and by that point, most of them had been living in Vancouver for a little while. It was just myself and the bass player were still in Victoria, but we both moved over to Vancouver about the same time, and then we just kind of went at it and just started playing shows in the Vancouver area, and eventually got on to booking our own tours and doing a DIY for a little while.

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a little while and things just kind of happened. And then

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this is where you guys burst on my scene.

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Correct me if I'm wrong. 2004

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is it? Advance of Anquish comes out? That's right.

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And you know us as metalheads I speak for a lot of us

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you know when there's so many bands out there and so many albums that while they're good

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it just sounds the same. Advance of Anquish was the first time I

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I had to hurt you guys. And it was instantly. And I've only had a couple. It was that instant you put it on and you're like, holy shit. This is amazing. Well, thank you. Did you guys realize in the metal world that little, you know, something different that you guys had touched off here with this record? Really? Well, I don't know if we maybe realized it. I don't. I think.

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Obviously, there was something that we must have known was special about it because Roadrunner Records was calling and other labels were taking interest. So we're like, oh, okay. We had done a few tours at that point, including one fairly high-profile tour in the UK, which maybe garnered us a little bit more attention from labels. But we knew the songwriting was getting better.

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and we were progressing. I think things just kind of happened within the span of a couple of years from, all right, we're doing some tours and we never really thought we would go very far with it. We certainly didn't rule out the possibility and we certainly were into taking opportunities. But all of a sudden we're signed to Roadrunner Records and we're

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We're recording an album with a really well-known producer, Neil Kernan, who his resume speaks for himself. This was all really new to us. Things happen the way they do, and you just kind of got to roll with it. It's all a matter of whether you're equipped to handle it and whether that's what you want to do.

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We're wanting to.

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2004 was a very pivotal time for us.

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A lot happened in that year.

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Some good, some very...

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I mean, I wouldn't say bad necessarily,

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but very strenuous and stressful.

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A lot of things happened.

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Do you think the location where you guys were coming? I ask this because I'm here in the D.C. area. I must have seen you guys three, four times right around the 2004-2005 area. Like we'll talk about later, you guys released this amazing documentary. Was it hard being up north traveling throughout the states with this grueling schedule in the bus?

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on the group that some of the guys just, maybe they were realizing it wasn't for them? Well, I don't know. Well, we never really toured in buses so much. We were mainly a van. If I said bus, I meant van. That's fine. But for listeners out there, there is a huge difference. Touring in a van is not for everybody. It is very, very hard.

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Touring Bus is very expensive. We have done bus tours when they were reasonable within our budget and the situation. OzFest in 07 was kind of the... or was that 08? I'm trying to... I think it was 07. I think it was 07. Yeah, it was 07. We toured on a bus. We shared a bus to cut costs, but that's one of those tours where

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I won't get into the specifics why, but a lot of it has to do with refuge from the elements and so forth. Oh, it's brutal those days. Those are the kind of tours where there's a lot of night drives. You need your sleep, and if you're not, then you're pretty much shooting yourself in the foot in terms of jeopardizing your performance or whatever. But getting back to the point at hand,

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I don't know if it was necessarily the vehicle thing, but just being in a touring band is not for everybody. It's really hard slogging it out, especially in those early days when you're paying your dues. You're not making much money. You can't really afford to have crew unless you've got buddies who are willing to work for basically nothing or chump change, you know, just a per diem, like five bucks a day here and there.

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A lot of hard lessons learned, but even before we were at that point of promoting Advanced

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Banquish, there's just guys who just either weren't cut out for it and we had to make some changes, or it was people who were just, their hearts weren't into it. They didn't want to, they were already getting fed up with the business aspect of things. They had other ambitions and what have you. And that's mostly what it's been.

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with people who've been in this band and then left. They just

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weren't into it for whatever reason or another. They liked playing the music, but

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they had other things on their mind, other ambitions. They didn't want to be away

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so much.

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Only one guy we've ever had to fire, but

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it's not for everybody.

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That's really what it boils down to. I could imagine it. You had just joined a band years earlier. Prior to the tours around here, had you even done any major touring like this? Nothing really. Nothing that I'd call major, anyway. I'd done a couple of tours down the West Coast with a couple of different bands.

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know what it was all about. We were all pretty green. We'd done little bits of DIY touring here and there. And that sort of gets you prepared a little bit. But until you're on a tour with a bigger band and see the way their production is and their crew and just kind of learning the ropes and learning not to be so green and learn to know your place, be appreciative

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for what you're getting because you're getting good exposure. In fact, the first time I met you, it always stays with me, was at Jack's in Springfield, VA. It's now a different name. I walked in and you were selling your shirts. If I talked to you for 30 minutes, you were more than willing to talk to me. Yeah, why not? You're going to have to be there anyway, right? Regardless of whether I'm at the merch table or what,

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We're usually hanging out. What are we going to do to sit in our van? Or this dressing room? Or even if there is a dressing room, sometimes there just isn't. But we're out and about. We're there to hang out and meet people and interact on and off stage. When you're not at the show, when you're not at the venue, when you're not on stage, it can be really boring.

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is just driving.

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So to have that interaction with people is, you know, that's part of why we do it.

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Because you're there to see us play and we're there to entertain you.

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So, yeah, we want to talk to you and hear what you had thought about the show and what your favorite songs are.

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And, you know, kind of like say, oh, sorry, when you say like, oh, why didn't you play this song?

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I love that song.

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and be like, oh, maybe next time. I've still never seen you guys play Revenge is a Vulture. Yeah, and we've done that on lots of tours, probably, I don't know when the last time you saw us was, but we've played it fairly recently, I guess. Maybe not the last tour we did. Maybe the one before it. And that's another thing we like to keep in mind is we may do a set list that is

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the same for a whole tour, but then we're usually pretty mindful of songs we haven't played since the tour before. So we'll throw in some songs, and then we'll put some on the shelf, and there's ones we always keep in there. That's just stuff we're conscious of ourselves. We don't have to necessarily always ask the fans, like, hey, we're going to do an online poll. You pick our set list for this tour.

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And that's a cool idea. We just haven't actually done that. Sometimes people are like, oh, are you playing this song tonight? I'll be like, I'm not sure. I don't like to give away too much about what's our set list beforehand. My partner, George, who I normally do the podcast with, he will look up a set list and then he'll put the whole set list on his iPod and do some concert prep. I said, no, George, when we saw King Diamond,

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a couple weeks ago, I said, George, I was so hyped to see Abigail. I was excited. I was looking forward to it. He didn't even fucking play it. But George knew that was going to happen. I like that waiting, and then, hey, if it happens, it's a great moment. If not, it doesn't happen. Well, one of the benefits we have sometimes of being a band at our level is when we're doing a tour, if we're not doing a headliner, sometimes we will get those days

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off from the main tour where we are doing our own headlining shows. So we'll prepare set, like headlining sets. We'll prepare 30-minute sets or like we'll know in advance usually of how long our set's going to be for a whole tour. And some nights it'll change. Sometimes you'll get an extra five minutes. So be like, okay, we'll throw this song in. So there's always songs that we're kind of rotating usually as well. And we'll say, okay, we'll play this one tonight or that one went really well last night so we'll do it again.

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or like someone wants to hear this song. We didn't play it the past couple of nights, so we'll hear this one, you know. Like fans will say, are you going to play this? And like, well, I don't know, maybe. And then someone will come in the dressing room and be like, hey, there's a guy who's asking if we'll play this song. So we'll do that. So sometimes we do those little requests. Maybe they won't necessarily know that we threw it in the set list because of them. But, you know, if there's people listening who have ever asked us that and we have ended up playing, then there's a

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was a decent enough chance that we put it in there because somebody asked. And you know what? Maybe one night just work it into like a three inches of blood bit of like, you know, your own little medley. Just rock in three or four songs into one. We've never actually done anything quite like that. The only thing similar would be we've thrown in a piece of a Rush song here and there. Of course. Into like the end of a song and then leading it into one song. Into a

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So, now going with your songs here, maybe I have, you know, read the lyrics and interpreted them wrong. If I have, great. I recommend everybody listening to follow you on Instagram, follow you on Twitter, at Camp Pipes. Reason being, me personally, I like you, I'm a tabletop gamer. I have been playing D&D for years. Is the subject matter, is it you putting your own hand in it,

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with the fantasy world that you spend your free time sometimes involved with? Well, I've been asked before if D&D influenced my lyric writing, and I'm going to have to say no, because I've never been the DM when I've played D&D. I've always been a player, so I've never been in control of the story of any of the campaigns I've been involved.

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involved in.

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You know, maybe some of the

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imagery within the game

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or just, you know, words

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the way the DM has described certain

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stuff. Maybe that's, you know, influenced

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me indirectly. But, you know, I've never written

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a song based on any D&D campaigns.

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And that, you know, that probably will surprise

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some people.

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Yeah, it's, that's a, I'm learning

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something new there. I never would have

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known that.

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And it's not that I am opposed to anything

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like that. The campaigns I'm usually involved in are very open-ended. There's not usually any endings. Players come and go. DMs change their mind on what rule sets they want to go with. And they go, oh, we're going to try a different world this day. Everybody roll up a first-level character, which is kind of annoying because I hate playing first-level characters. They're way too vulnerable. Very much so.

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You know, it's them trying to keep it interesting, or maybe they just want to grab something new. Have you had a chance to look at the new rule set that came out? I know you play, well, you still play second edition, right? Yeah, like I started playing 3.5 about 10 years ago. Did that for a while. Then the guys I play with decided to switch to fourth edition when it came out. Did that for almost a year. They weren't really feeling it too much.

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So we reverted back to first edition AD&D. And that's pretty much the basis of what we play now, except for the DMs kind of throwing in their own little rules here and there. But I have guys who they'll revert back to OD&D or something that's not even necessarily a traditional D20 rule set.

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But they just kind of do their own thing. And, you know, there's, you know, you'll only use like six or 12-siders sometimes. Like, there's not even D20s involved. But it's all, you know, it's all role-playing still. Now, going back to the music here for the band, when you guys released your two albums, right, I'd say in the middle of where I'm, your most recent long-lived heavy metal, Fire Up the Blades and Hear Waits Thy Doom.

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From an avid fan of you guys, it seems those were records where you guys were not trying to find your footing, but trying to find the sound or the direction of the group. Is that a correct statement to make for those albums? I don't think so. We've never really approached our songwriting in terms of a direction we're going for or an idea. It's always

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We've got some riffs. Let's see where they go. And we just stick with what we liked. That's really the only way to put it. It's really not really much to elaborate on it other than that. We don't think about repeating ourselves or wanting to emulate past success of some sort. We're not going in there thinking

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thinking like, oh, we need to write another Deadly Sinners or something like that. So we've always been very, you know, we're doing what we like. And for the most part, we've been with labels that are supportive of that for the most part. And, you know, any, you know, creative control that has been tried to be exerted other than by anyone in the band has been met with much resistance.

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and sometimes a little hostility and it's always been like okay they back off so um because we're like you know you you heard the demos the way they the way they are and we haven't changed the songs from demo to recording the master and now you're saying you want something different so the middle finger goes up and then they back off and say okay um but luckily that's only happened like

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like once or twice. Wow. Now, fast forward here. We are at Long Live Heavy Metal. Your guys' most recent album came out a couple years back. I, even though Advance and Vanquish is my favorite, I think Long Live Heavy Metal is your guys' years of experience now is definitely shining through. This is a perfect 10 out of 10 in my book. The song Look Out Alone is amazing work on that. Do you have anything?

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This album, you guys just went to the studio and just decided you were going to sit down and just do a kick-ass album, right? Yeah, I mean, this was an album that was written probably faster than any other record we've done before and probably recorded a lot quicker than any records we've done. You would not know if I'm listening to it. Yeah, I can't explain why, but it's just kind of what happened. We were writing it in the fall of 2008.

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and it was uh we were in a very cold uh rehearsal building and it's just one of those things i mean we didn't uh we did kind of set out a rough guideline of when we wanted to be in the studio and we were there was a little bit of a crunch you know it was a little bit uh stressful at times thinking about like okay shit we got to finish this up we got to go into the studio we don't we wanted to have songs done by the time we hit

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the studio, if not, have them done by the time we started pre-production. There were a few, a couple of skeletons that were still, you know, hadn't been totally fleshed out by the time we hit pre-production. And they weren't 100% done by the time we finished pre-production. You know, there were lyrics that I was still writing while the guys were laying down the bed tracks for the, you know, with the drums and all that.

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all that stuff. So there were a couple of songs that I had, by the time I was ready to go, all the lyrics were done. I just hadn't necessarily arranged a couple of songs. I hadn't really arranged them with the music quite yet. The Lookout was one of them, actually, and those were songs that I just kind of like, okay, this is what I think I'm going to do, and I just kind of went for it.

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Let's go for it.

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And with a little bit of trial and error and figuring out, okay, that kind of vocal pattern and that melody doesn't really quite work. And Justin actually was pretty instrumental in helping with the way some of the vocals were arranged on that one. And Men of Fortune being the other one. That was like the last song that we wrote before going into the studio. Which was probably the end. The way it turned out was probably the big surprise of all.

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But those last two, we didn't think too much about, oh shit, we're really pressed for time. We were making good progress when it came down to actually laying down those newer ones that were a little less familiar. We're very pleased with how they turned out and we're ecstatic with how the whole record

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It turned out it was just very surprising at the overall result. I think we all thought we made our strongest record. It wasn't this crazy ups and downs that struggled to get the thing done. It was just kind of a... It was what it was. It turned out really cool. Not to say I lost faith in you guys. I, along with a bunch of fans,

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I talked to right around the time Jamie left and stuff. We were like, God, there's three inches of blood. What will they change into? Will they change? Will they still even be around? Was that talked about when Jamie left, if you guys still go on? More so in the aspect of how are the fans going to react. From the time Fire of the Blades came out, Jamie hard, well,

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Jamie first started getting his voice problems about the time we were recording Fire of the Blades and then subsequently toured right after it was done. From when it was done to when it was released there was about a six month gap so we toured for about three months straight right after we recorded just because we had these good opportunities come up.

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And then it was in that time that we got offered Ozfest. And then, you know, these issues started coming up with, you know, Jamie's having trouble with his voice and saying, I don't think I should tour for a little while. I should like recoup. So Justin, you know, like a champ, just said, fuck, I'll do it. Pete's saying in bands before I'd been in bands with him before where he'd sang. So I knew he had he was able to do it because he's, you know,

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He just said he had to practice a little bit doing guitar and vocals and being able to do these complex riffs and do some of the vocal patterns. I needed to, some stuff I needed to take on a bit of Jamie's parts too, but did it in my own sort of way. But we adapted and we did really well, I think. And after it became clear, like, well, Jamie's not going to be doing this for a while, if ever, again.

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And we just kind of soldiered on, not really thinking too much about it, because we thought we were doing fine. We weren't struggling. People were naturally curious about where he was and how he was doing. And if he was coming back, we're just like, yeah, this is what's going on. And the reactions were very encouraging, though. And they're saying, well, you know, we like his vocals, we miss him, but you guys certainly sound great still.

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So that was validation enough when it finally came down to

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Jamie saying look

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I don't think I'm going to be able to do this anymore

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and we said okay

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That's the way it is

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You mentioned at the start of that answer there

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that you were a little worried what the fans think

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We see it every year

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Most recently

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in news a couple months back

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when Opeth was getting ready to release

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their album they said hey

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This is like a 70s prog sound. And hey, honestly, we're going to play whatever we like to play. Have you as an artist and now, you know, in the band, are you afraid or are you apprehensive of trying something drastic or new for what you guys may want to do in the future? Not really. I used to be about the way certain song.

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I used to think, oh, well, that's not really our style. That's a little more outside the box. But ultimately, we wanted to give it a shot. We didn't want to pigeonhole ourselves and do sounding a certain way. I think you can listen to all our records and think and find, okay, you know it's Three Inches of Blood, but yet each album has its own

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sound in a way. So, you know, some people have heard some songs that we've, that may be a little bit different, like, you know, like Infinite Legions on Fire of the Blades has like lots of blast beats. That was, that was just something that we were, that was another song we were just kind of wrote in pre-production and we needed, we needed some more songs. So, someone just started jamming out a riff and, you know, just things kind of went from there and it ended up being more of a,

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It's blast beats. We're not really known for doing blast beats. And then you've got a song like Preacher's Daughter off Here Waits Thy Doom, which is very more rock and roll. But it's definitely something that stands out from songs on that record and even on any other song we've done.

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will tell us, oh, I love this song, this is my favorite song off that record, or this is my favorite song that you've done. So from a whole song, even little ideas like Justin wanting to bring in some keyboards, you know, that never really bothered me. I've always liked the sound of keyboards. I know the kind of place he was coming from when he first said, oh, I want to put some heavy keyboards in here, a la John Lorde, Deep Purple. So I was like, okay, that would probably sound pretty cool.

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So we've always tried

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We've ended up putting some on the past few records

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And people responded well to it

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So

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Nothing's really backfired

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And blown up in our faces

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In that respect

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Speaking about songs throughout the disc

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Why hasn't the NHL contacted you guys

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To have Leave It On Yice

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Be the anthem for the frickin' NHL

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Well you know

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This whole debate about

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Taking Fighting Out of the Game is one of the... What is your personal take on it? It's got to be there. It's part of the entertainment value. Okay. Okay. And it's... Yeah, I mean, it's something no other sport really has. And you know when it happens, it's not like, oh, shit. They're like... You're like, yeah, okay, fight. And it's usually pretty short anyway, which kind of sucks.

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But it really gets the crowd amped up. It gets the team amped up. That's another reason why they do it. I mean, I don't really like the staged fighting where they're just kind of like, okay, yeah, are we going to do this? I like the fighting to be a result of something like a dirty hit or like, you know, you slew foot the goalie or something like that. And then a fight breaks out. Then it's like, yeah, then it's like retribution. It's not just like, okay, let's give these guys a show or we need to get our teams fired up. So, hey, let's you and me

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I still like seeing it regardless, but the motivation or the reason behind a particular fight may not be quite to my liking.

01:28:35.460 --> 01:28:39.640
Hey, I don't have a problem watching stupid George Peros get his face past you in a couple of times.

01:28:40.300 --> 01:28:44.280
Yeah, there's some guys who you just like to see go at it.

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Now, over the years, you know, I guess a couple of questions, I'll let you go.

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You know it way better than I do. Now we live in this age where people, except it seems metal fans, but people are buying singles here. They're doing streaming stuff. What is your whole take on where the industry is going now? Are you guys on board with whatever? Ultimately, you're at the record label's discretion, right? I guess so.

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our next release is.

01:29:26.240 --> 01:29:28.940
I kind of hope it doesn't come out on CD.

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Oh, wow.

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Okay.

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Because I don't really see the point anymore.

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People are just going to, they're either going to download it or they're just going

01:29:36.120 --> 01:29:40.040
to like rip it on their computer and throw it on their iPod or whatever.

01:29:40.420 --> 01:29:45.000
And like, like how many people have, who listens to CDs at home anymore?

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I mean, I don't have a CD player in my house.

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Nope.

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How many people listen?

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I mean, unless you're just listening to it on your computer, which you don't really need to have the CD for there, unless you're just, unless you throw it on your iTunes and then you shelve the CD, right? So it's kind of seems like a pointless bit of manufacturing now when you can cut down on that cost and just, you know, do the digital download or stick with the vinyl. I'm a big fan of vinyl. So am I, so am I. So I like having that. There's always like cool stuff you can do.

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with special packaging and limited edition kind of stuff. So I think I like that kind of thing. But people are still going to grab it off their computers in some form or another. And I know there's a lot to be said about having the physical packaging and the artwork and all this stuff. And I totally agree with that. But that's where at least the vinyl kind of maintains that aspect.

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at least. Better sound quality. Yeah, and you get the download copy when you want to take it on the go and you got the nice audio quality when you're sitting there at the house and you want to look through it on the couch. Yeah, exactly. So that's sort of where I stand on it. As long as the vinyl is still there, that's always going to be something cool. And even if people are just like, oh, but I don't have a record player. And then it's like, well, it comes with a download card, which most of the time it does now. It's like you got a record player.

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You at least got the artwork. You got something cool to look at. And maybe, especially like with, if you get a record early on and it's released, then sometimes the first press will be on a colored vinyl or be like hand numbered or picture desk or something like, something special about it right off the bat. Now for, will we ever see Advance and Vanquish on vinyl? Yeah. You know, it's been Advance and Vanquish and Fire Up the Blades have been, we've been sort of working on it.

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with a label from Winnipeg, Manitoba called War on Music. They re-released Here Waits Thy Doom on vinyl. They released Battle Cry Under Winter Sun, our first record, on vinyl for the very first time. It had never been on vinyl before, and they were in talks with Roadrunner to do the other two. But Roadrunner's a very frustrating label to work with, I know, firsthand. And not being on the label anymore, they're still...

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It's just not high on their priority. They've given the okay, but there's all this red tape and paperwork they've got to deal with. I let the Warren music guy deal with it. He's basically reached a standstill where he can't get a hold of the people at Roadrunner that he's been trying to deal with, so I've even tried to help him out and say, drop the guy a line to no avail. It's gotten the green light, but then

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There's some red tape that's being delayed. So this hasn't been going on for a while. And it's really frustrating because War on Music wanted to do, release all the records as a package. Oh, nice! Do some kind of collection with it. But he was waiting to get the go on manufacturing of the two Roadrunner records first.

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to really make that happen, and then he was going to do it all. So people are asking about it, and yes, they will happen eventually. It's just a matter of wait. Just got to wait, yep. So as we sit here talking right now, where does three inches of blood stand now for any new album, new tours, or anything? We're dying to know. Yeah, right now the band's sort of been on a break for most of this year.

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that we just needed to take a break for a little while. We've been at it so long, going hard, that we just kind of needed a breather from the music and just kind of take a break. So, I don't know. We'll see. We're not really sure. There's no set time is when we're going to start getting back at it. But we've done the odd show as our Rush tribute band here and there. So that's something that we'll do every now and then.

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Certainly not hanging up the leathers, though, right? No, I wouldn't say that at all. Some people feeling burnt out and just don't really feel like writing at the moment. If the heart and passion is in it right now, you know? Yeah, it's just we want to be like, we don't want to just shit something out and say, oh, here you go. We want to actually, like,

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Be feeling it. It's something that we just need to recharge our batteries on for the moment. Yeah, because you guys were the deafness and road dogs there for a while. Yeah, absolutely. I'm sorry. No, no, that's it. You're right. I was just saying, just one last thing here. Earlier this year, and I'll include the links in the show notes here, you guys released an amazing documentary.

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And I've watched a bunch of these. Three Inches of Blood Warriors and The Great White North. How was that whole experience filming that that followed you guys around? That was really interesting. We've never really had somebody travel with us for any purpose other than working for, you know, being like a road guy, like a sound guy or tour manager, that kind of thing. You know, we just...

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Our buddy Tom McLeod, he just one day was like, hey, I want to make a documentary about you guys. And we're like, oh, okay. What are you thinking? And he's like, yeah, I want to follow you guys on a tour. And we're like, all right. So the more we talked about it, the more it seemed kind of like a neat idea. And he's just like, yeah, I just want to make a documentary on you guys. And it was totally his thing. He did a little bit of crowdfunding for it and said, okay, well, why don't you just come out on this Canadian tour?

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So he flew out east and met up with us in Quebec and then just drove home with us from east back to west. It was on a really cool tour. It was a really cool time for us, especially in terms of our hometown hockey team. That was during their Cinderella run through the playoffs, which ended quite... I was not going to say anything, but I was not going to say...

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Yeah.

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It's not, even to this day, sportscasters here kind of refer to it as, well, you know, that time.

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But anyway, yeah, it was a really neat time.

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It was a good tour.

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As long as you didn't take a brick through a window, you know?

01:37:06.780 --> 01:37:11.820
No, I live far from downtown, but I could see the smoke rising from downtown.

01:37:13.000 --> 01:37:13.660
It was interesting.

01:37:14.520 --> 01:37:16.780
But, yeah, it was pretty rough.

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The tour itself was great. We were on tour with an awesome band, Cancer Bats, and one of the funner Canadian tours we've ever done. It was a good one for Tom to join us on. Like I said, it was his thing. He wanted to do it. He gave us some power of

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He would do a draft and then we'd watch it and he's like, if there's anything you don't like, anything about the way you're being portrayed, then absolutely. So that was really cool. But ultimately, it was his thing and he did it. But he wanted us to be involved still on a creative level and on a distribution level as well.

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a bunch of money out of it. That's why we just

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kind of got it out there

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and put it up for like five bucks.

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Yeah, I'll put the link there for everybody.

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Five bucks.

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The thing that strikes me about this

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is the, like a traveling junior hockey team.

01:38:34.400 --> 01:38:38.280
The camaraderie between you and the guys.

01:38:38.490 --> 01:38:41.280
It shines through in that.

01:38:43.340 --> 01:38:45.440
Yeah, we're a pretty tight-knit bunch of guys.

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A lot of bands might not get along or have fistfights. We've never been really like that. We've always been pretty level-headed. We have our opinions, but we all face the same hardships while we're out there. We all persevere and we know how to settle our differences pretty quickly and talk things out. We're all doing it for the same greater good. That being our performance and our fans.

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Well, Cam, with that, I'll let you go, brother. I truly, from joining me here in the podcast to me personally as my favorite singer today in metal, thank you for giving me your time. No problem. Appreciate you having me. And again, guys, follow Cam on Twitter. Follow him at Cam Pipes. Follow him on Instagram. He's very responsive. I've tried to talk crap to him about USA hockey, and he always puts myself in my

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I placed and stuff. Cam, thanks, man. Yeah, no problem. All right. So that was my interview with Cam. Sorry if I got a little overly nervous and excited there. I'm just a huge fan of him, and I think more metalheads out there should need to be hearing what Three Inches of Blood are doing. And I'm jealous because I wasn't included. You know, I'm just giving him a hard time here, but, you know, it's like 7 o'clock, 8 o'clock.

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8 o'clock on the day that he does the interview. And he just shoots me a text and he's like, hey, I'm going to be doing an interview with Cam Pipes in a little while. And I'm like, what about me, motherfucker? What about me? It's all about me, really. And I was like, all right, man, cool, do it. But I'm a little bummed I didn't get to sit in on that.

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As you heard, Cam is, you know, the band's had some ups and downs, but he still loves singing metal. And we talk about, as you heard, Dungeons and Dragons for a little bit. A new Dungeons and Dragons came out this year. I will be picking it up and playing it with my brother in a month or so. So it was a fun interview. So glad you guys enjoyed it. If you didn't like it, shoot me a message. George is at Disciple OV Metal on Twitter. I'm at Opeth Fan.

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Shoot us an email, george at wearemetalheads or buke at wearemetalheads.com.

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But what are we going into now?

01:41:13.420 --> 01:41:15.800
Now we've got an indie band that we want to cover.

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The drummer for this band emailed me a couple of weeks ago, sent me their album.

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I get stuff like this all the time.

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Unfortunately, I can't listen to all of it, but in this case, I had a few moments.

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I popped it on, and what I heard, I liked enough that made me want to hear more.

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So ultimately, I asked him to send me a copy of the album.

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I downloaded it.

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I listened to it, and I think it's actually pretty great.

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So we're going to play you a couple songs from the album today. The band is called Goat Hanger. They're from Australia and the album is called The Hook. It's kind of cool. Their logo, like their name, is basically two coat hangers, one on top of the other in such a way that the coat hangers look like the goat head pentagram, sort of. And I'm like, oh, you know, it's kind of funny. And I wasn't sure what I was going to think of something like that. Is it going to be really kind of goofy? Or I mean, because they have a song called like Suck My Balls or something like that. But listening to it, I was pretty impressed.

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It has a real kind of groove metal, almost Pantera-ish kind of sound to it. And... Like I told you last night, it's a timeless classic metal sound. Yeah. Very accessible. Yes. So, you know, it was just real easy for me to get hooked on this album. So, we're going to play you a couple songs. We're going to play you one now, and then we'll play you another one at the end of the show. Let's start off with that timeless classic love song called Emma, You Bloated Whore.

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Yeah!

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These minds could only come from you.

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One-turned-attack to my cold war.

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I smell like a gentrification.

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You're nothing more than a war.

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¡Vamos!

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I'm watching the face to calm you down. I'm kicking the balls, returns the flavor.

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This time the battle you have won But I will always win this war Get out, you can't hurt me With love, let's get it on Come on, cause I'm the best of you You are the best of me Get out, you can't hurt me With love, let's get it on

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Come out, 'cause I'm the best of you, you are the best of me.

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Where are you bloating?

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Overbloater.

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Where are you bloating?

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This love got hit by a patron I could never ever leave you And if you tried you would be dead

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All right, that was Goat Hanger from Australia and their song, Emma, You Bloated Whore from The Hook.

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Stick around to the end of the show and we will play you another song from Goat Hanger. Alrighty, let's get into our top three for this week. Again, I posed you the question, what should we do? You came back at me with a choice. I didn't expect. No, I did not. And of the two that you suggested, I chose Morbid Angel. So, let's do it. I think this may be the first time where we maybe are in agreement. I don't know. I doubt it.

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I look at my number three. Number three, Domination. Where the Slime Live. Where the Slime Live. I love that fucking song. And again, for those of you who've never heard Morbid Angel, just true death metal. Is anybody any other way to describe it? Right, George? Yeah. It's just classic death metal, right? It is. Number two, this is a tough one because I battled back and forth on this.

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from like a historical impact where they are number two covenant okay god of emptiness the death song is ridiculous

01:48:34.390 --> 01:48:41.560
okay but number one authors of madness the classic classic i think you're already laughing because i know

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we're probably not going to be anywhere near each other but like chapel of ghouls suffocation maze of

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torment um immortal rights yeah you know and uh interesting fact about them while george you know just

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laughs at me and looks on me. You know that all their albums go in alphabetical order? Yes, I knew that. Altars of Madness, Blessed of the Sick, Covenant, Domination. Yeah. It's interesting. I wonder if they'll ever get to Z. So what do you got? My number three? Domination. Oh, yes. Yeah. That's the only one we line up on. Oh, no. My number two is Altars of Madness. Now, I really had to struggle to figure that out. My two and my one could easily have flipped.

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But I was like, you know, I mean, Ultras of Madness is a classic. It's, you know, genre defining.

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Did you get it back in 89?

01:49:32.460 --> 01:49:52.540
I didn't get it then. However, I did see them on their tour. They played the Michigan Death Fest. The first Michigan, I don't know if there were more of them, but it was the very first Michigan Death Fest. And they headline. And that had to be in 90. So that was between, you know, Ultras came out in 89, Blessed came out in 91. So I'm assuming that that was on the Ultras of Madness tour.

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And it was pretty like wow. It was impressive. I mean it was just in like a stupid little like hall of some kind. Like a firehouse hall or something in Jackson, Michigan. But the Morbid Angels set up, you know, the drum kit was just massive. And it was something. I saw them twice myself too. Yeah. With Pantera. Okay. My number one, Blessed Are the Sick. And I know you're going, how come he didn't include Covenant? Well. Yeah, because I thought Covenant was your favorite. No, no.

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The Sick is my favorite. It's been my favorite for a while. I don't know. It's just something about the production and the songs. Just the sound of the album was always my favorite one. You know, Covenant, you make a very valid point about Covenant being a good album and it could easily be on that list. But, you know, those are my three favorite. So, that's what I did. Have you stayed with them through the lineup with Steve Tucker taking over the vocals and stuff like that? Nope. Yeah. Okay.

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The reason I was going to ask is there are 2000 release gateways to annihilation. Yeah, not bad. Really? I don't know that I've ever listened to it. Domination was pretty much it for me. It was. Yeah. Yeah. I haven't listened to them in years. You know, the whole alphabetical thing just reminded me. So that last album they did that began with I, right? Wow, it did? Pretty sure it did. Yeah. I was wondering why they had such a strange name. And I was like, duh, of course, because it's an I. So the next one would have to be a good one.

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be a J. What are they going to come up with that sounds evil that starts with a J? Juggler. Extinction Massacre. Now, you know David Vincent's back in the group. Yes. And that was why I was willing to give that last album a listen until I heard it and I was like, oh, oh, sorry. This is excrement. I thought it was metal. And Pete's not on the drums for them anymore. No. He could fucking play some skins. Indeed. So that's Morbid Angel. You know what you're getting to when you listen to them. Yes. Well, usually.

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Oh, and more depending on the album. Yeah. So what have you been listening to this past week? Okay, I listened to this album, and I'm hooked on it. It's going to make my top 10 list. It's going to be somewhere in the album. That's all I'm going to say. You told me about this yesterday, but you wouldn't tell me what it is. And so for the last 24 hours, I've been like racking my brain going, what could it possibly be? The anticipation is killing me. We liked the Bloodbath release. We liked it. That classic death metal sound. Yeah.

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a good return for them. This, I'm actually nervous, this is a Pennsylvania, South Carolina band, Horrendous. I was listening to that today. And their 2014 release just came out, E-C-D-Y-S-I-S. Oh yeah, I can't say that either. Yeah, again, I cannot, I cannot pronounce it. E-C-D-Y-S-I-S? E-C-D

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Album Art, by the way. Yeah, yeah, the Album Art's pretty good. But it's classic death metal. I think it's done exceptionally well. The thing that I liked about this is that the guitar work is... Horrendous? I'm just kidding, just kidding. I know. That was good, though. It's really technical. I was getting sounds in There Be On My List 2, Revocation. I was getting sounds of a lot of pre-skilled technical guitar work from this on some of the guitar parts. So I was really excited.

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I've been excited for this album. I've had this for, I don't know, a month or so. I haven't given it an in-depth listen yet. I saw it was coming out on some of the year-end lists, so I picked it up to give it a listen. I've listened to a little bit. It hasn't hooked me, but I haven't. It was probably like a YouTube video or something. I need to put on the headphones, like I've been telling you. I've got to put the headphones on, immerse within the music, and see what I think, because there have been a couple albums in this last couple of weeks that I initially wrote off and was like, nah, not so much.

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I put on the headphones got deep into and I'm like oh shit this is gonna make the list so you know I'm not gonna discredit you you know what I just remembered making my list that freaking rigor mortis album came out yes I know that better be on there somewhere man I just forgot about that bad boy making my list the other day yeah there's those two guys from Texas that we know that I was surprised to see that the rigor mortis did not make their list yes I was like what huh well interesting

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A lot of interesting lists out there. Some of them I agree with. Most of them I think are shit. And again, the nice thing I like about this list is it's us. Our tastes are really going to shine. It's going to be clear on my end of the year list. No black metal is going to be on it. As much as I like to bash, like I was just bashing and saying there's a bunch of shit lists out there. As much as I like to do that, that's done in fun. Yeah, it is. It's always done in fun. Because you always got to keep in mind that these lists are subjective to the people that are listening to them. I like what I like.

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you like and there's no telling the other person that they're right or they're wrong because that's what it is you know you like what you like so would you ever not to get away from you doing your what you're listening to would you ever get away or sorry would you ever like i know there is a grammy for heavy metal but it means nothing they don't even put it on the show anymore it's not even worth the paper that the nominations read off of would you ever want to see like a real industry award like that that has some weight to it you mean like the golden guy

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That was good. That was good. Because you know how when you, it's never our music, but when you win the Grammy for album of the year, I know some of them are one hit wonders and stuff. Sure. But in that music world, it carries a lot. Yeah, but I don't mean anything to you if metal had that? Where like, hey, the panel is like your Brian Slagle. It's your. If it were people like Brian Slagle that were picking the releases, it might have some meaning to me. But I mean, it's just like the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame being.

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a joke, you know? It's like, oh, you included, you know, somebody that's not even rock, you know, in it. Okay, fine. It's like, I'm not going to say the band that we were talking about before the show started, somebody that made a number one on a list that I said, that's not metal, you know? It's fine that that person likes that band enough to put it as number one on their list. I'm not going to berate them for it. Personally, I don't consider it metal. It's like when Jethro Tull beat out Metallica at the Grammys, like, and everybody's like, but Jethro Tull's

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It's not metal. Yeah, well, same case here. This band that took this number one spot, I don't consider them metal. I consider it pop music with a double bass and a distorted guitar. Otherwise, like I said, you could drop out the drums, drop out the guitars, remix it with a drum machine and a keyboard, and the vocals would work just fine as a pop song. And this applies to video games, buddy. You look at when they do end-of-the-year video game reviews, lists, I'm sorry, you might not be a first-

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I may be a first-person shooter fan. Right. Yeah. So where's the common ground that we find? Exactly. I don't like black metal. You like black metal. It's, you know, the greatest black metal album this year could have ever been released. To me, I, you know. Well, this week's convincing buke, I am going to work you with some black metal. Okay. So what were you listening to? But what, and what, actually, what I was listening to, I have two of them. I'll start with the first one. The first one is something that you might like. It's called, it's a band from New Zealand,

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called The House of Capricorn.

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And their album Morning Star Rise.

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And this is one that I just finally heard this past week.

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It's going to be on the list somewhere.

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My list is going to have to be more than 50.

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It's just going to have to be.

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It's kind of Doom, but it's like quicker.

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You know, it's not slow like Doom.

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It's kind of mid-paced to even fast at times with clean vocals.

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You know, maybe a little stoner, but it's heavy metal with relatively clean vocals.

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And I dig it a lot.

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So that's the first thing I was listening to this week is also going to be the convincing Buke. Okay. And they're a black metal band from, I want to say Colorado, Denver perhaps. I forgot to look it up. They're on Prosthetic Records. It's a very much contemporary sounding black metal. And the band is called Wayfarer. And the album is Children of the Iron Age. Unfortunately, I could only find two songs from the album on YouTube. So for those of you following along on Facebook, there's only going to be two songs.

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I have provided Buke with the entire album so he can listen to these two songs and more to make his evaluation. Now, Wayfarer, they have sort of a classic black metal style in terms of music, but the music is really good. The vocals are harsh, but it's got a pretty clean, modern-sounding production. The execution and arrangement is a bit more contemporary, and so I feel that you might be able to get into this because the

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The songs are kind of long, and the music itself is just badass. And that's what I'm hanging my hat on here, is that you're going to listen to this and think the music is really cool, and the vocals, well. True classic black metal vocals? They're harsh. I mean, it's not, I don't think it's quite as screechy. Because that's the turnoff to me, it's always been with black metal. Just to give some history for the convincing buke, is that, like putting on mayhem and stuff like that. It's that screechy, you know? Yeah, I don't really, I don't think of it as,

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is quite that screechy. It's a little more, you might even consider it more death. But the two songs that I've got that I'm going to be putting up on Facebook are the title track, Children of the Iron Age, and another song called A Place Among Stars. So, your mission is to listen to Children of the Iron Age by Wayfarer, and next time we will find out, can Buke like a black metal album? Because I will admit, because the only black metal up to this point is a symphonic black metal trend.

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that was happening in the 2000s, like Immortal, not Immortal, like Demu was doing for a while. So, yep. I'm hoping that this might be the gateway drug that we can back you into gently into some black metal, get you started out. Do you think you can never start anybody with black metal? You got to start somewhere. I mean, you know, I started somewhere. Everybody started somewhere. So we'll see. We will see. I'm only about 50-50. I really think this could go either way. I think you might dig the music. But on the other hand,

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Sometimes you just don't hear what I hear. So we'll see. Alright. What's your classic for this week? You talked about them earlier in the Lyric video. This is the way for Wikipedia to pop up. This is the 1992 release from Blind Guardian. They're somewhere far beyond. Right on. This is when Tales from a Twilight World came out in 1990. This is when Blind Guardian's really starting to get the gears turning on.

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the power metal sound that they would really hit their peak, I think, in for Imaginations from the Other Side, which would follow three years later. But this album has the classic crowd live performance loving the Bard song on it. It's their fourth album. Again, if you want to see classic power metal and what power metal has really evolved into now from when it left the 80s and started to really go into the 90s.

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This is a great album. This is before, I think, what George was talking about earlier, Blind Guardian started to kind of get old. You had heard it many times before. It's not my favorite Blind Guardian, but I do love the Bard song. Excellent. I wanted to go with that. Well, I sort of neglected to spend some time. It's been an incredibly busy week, and I forgot to come up with a classic. So, as we've been going through the podcast today, I've been sort of frantically looking for something that sort of fits the classic

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category that I could talk about today. And I just came up with something. Another album that just turned 30 years old a couple months ago. Not the biggest album from this band, but this was sort of an album that re-jump started their career in the 80s. This is Perfect Strangers by Deep Purple. I love that album. Wow. That was actually, you know, 84. That's like right around when I started getting into metal. Perfect Strangers, not like a huge metal album, you know. I mean, it's

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It's more of a hard rock album these days, but it brought back Ian Gillen, Richie Blackmore, you know, the whole Mark II lineup, I'm pretty sure. I'd have to double check that, but it was their 80s comeback album, and, you know, had songs like Knocking on Your Back Door. Oh, man, I love that song. Under the Gun, Nobody's Home. Do you know how many times I see this album in the record store and I pass it? Oh, man. It's funny, because when the album came out, the title track, Perfect Strangers, didn't really, that was like one of the songs that I would

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skip over and god knows why i guess i just my my taste hadn't evolved enough to

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understand it yet but now perfect strangers the song is like my favorite song off that album it's just

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it's badass you know richie blackmore john lord you know fucking a yeah roger glover yeah ian pace but it is

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this it is the classic mock-2 lineup so it was just a great album and then the one that came after that too

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house of blue light another good great you know middle era album you think kids today listen to deep

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I bet you that if they even know the band, they're like, oh yeah, Smoke on the Water. Or what are the other ones they play on the radio? Space Truckin' and one of my personal favorites, Woman from Tokyo. That's a big one. Yeah, you know, if you're looking to get into the purple, Perfect Strangers isn't a bad place to start. That's where I started. Look where I am now. Like Joe Elliott,

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from Def Leppard said,

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in 1971, there were only three bands that mattered.

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Zeppelin, Sabbath, and Deep Purple.

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Hell yeah, man.

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Yeah, I mean, Purple was not as big over here as it was in Europe.

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And still, even still.

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Yeah, in Europe, Deep Purple was massive.

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So, check it out.

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Was it last year when they lost their keyboardist?

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Or was it this year?

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No, it was.

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Was it last year?

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Or was it even the year before?

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Because, God, you look at the impact.

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I remember, like, Larsen guys were coming out, you know, saying how much he meant to...

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Oh, John Lorde was huge.

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And yeah, he died in 2012. Wow. Wow. Yeah, huge loss. I cried. I cried when John Lord died. What a great, great pull. That was, that was, man, I really need, I passed on that album. Yeah, no, definitely you should get that. All right, well, we're just about ready to wrap up the episode. We're going to have fun today. We're going to, yeah, it was definitely went a lot longer than I thought it was going to, given the lack of news and releases. But we're getting ready to play you another song from Goat Hanger. But before we do. Before we do, I just again just wanted to thank Cam for the time.

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for the interview. Again, check out the documentary from them. If you need a place to start with Three Inches of Blood, I would highly, highly recommend Advance and Vanquish. I have not been that excited for an album in 20 years or so. I've been listening to Metal. And their most recent album, Long Live Heavy Metal, came out last year, I believe. Maybe two years ago. Yeah, two years ago now. Yes, two years ago now. I apologize, Cam. But Long Live Heavy Metal, their most recent album. You can see where the band

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And of course, like he said, make sure to check us out, Facebook, check us out on Twitter. I'm DiscipleOVMetal.com. At OpethFan. And of course, MetalheadsPod. Check us out on Stitcher, on YouTube, and of course, at WeAreMetalHeads.com. All right, let's wrap this episode up with another song from Goat Hanger, the Australian band from their album The Hook. This is Pre-Mortem Autopsy. See you next time.

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There is a reason

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That you have nothing

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It's who you are

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Take flesh from the bone

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You are the vulture

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Is what they see

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Broken gunning

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Washing off a man

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With who I am

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Buried flesh from above

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You are the fortune

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Is what they see

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Broken and gutted

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What's your own manner?

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That's who I am

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It's all because of you

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Dream on it, dream on it, what's on it?

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One blade falls on you

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Dream on and dream on and wards of sea.

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One dying season, dead like your heart, you are so cold.

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Dissect my life, to exploit my weakness, my blood your god.

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What dying Satan?

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Dead like your life

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You are so cold

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Dissect my life

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Which blind my weakness

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My blood you're cold

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It is all because of you.

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WALKING

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I need escape from the hell you're bringing

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I'll no longer be your living sacrifice

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Sacrifice

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But now it's time to bring you down

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There is a reason

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That you had nothing

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With who you are

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Die alone

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Die with nothing

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Just die

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It's all because of you

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WANT TO TAKE