WEBVTT 00:00:00.020 --> 00:00:05.220 Metalhead Podcast, Metalhead Podcast, go! 00:00:26.260 --> 00:00:28.000 You must listen. 00:00:28.899 --> 00:00:30.180 You must listen. 00:00:31.300 --> 00:00:32.580 You must listen. 00:00:36.440 --> 00:00:39.980 Now, here is the Podcast Metalheads Podcast. 00:00:40.740 --> 00:00:42.380 Hello and welcome to the Metalheads Podcast. 00:00:42.600 --> 00:00:43.340 My name is George. 00:00:44.220 --> 00:00:44.820 This is John. 00:00:45.480 --> 00:00:46.020 This is Matt. 00:00:46.680 --> 00:00:47.600 This is Markisan. 00:00:48.120 --> 00:00:51.160 And we are joined today by our friends Stacy and Justin. 00:00:51.440 --> 00:00:51.820 Welcome back. 00:00:53.120 --> 00:00:53.300 Hello. 00:00:54.820 --> 00:00:55.100 Yay! 00:00:55.600 --> 00:01:25.380 Good to be on again. Thank you. Yes. Thanks for having me back. Yeah, no problem. So Will is still too busy to hang with the likes of us. Jay has COVID. But, you know, there's still plenty of us here to have a good time. So welcome and thanks for coming on. This is we are about four or five days out from Decibel right now. And so we thought it would be fun to get together and maybe talk about, you know, the fest. 00:01:25.600 --> 00:01:55.120 What people are looking forward to? So my impression is first day is going to be pretty sick. And the second day, I'm going to be drinking probably more than watching. That's kind of my initial impression of the lineup that they announced. Wait a minute. Did you take my itinerary, Justin? For me upstairs. Exactly. On Sunday. Hanging out in that fucking lounge room upstairs. Drinking beers. Yes. Yeah. So it's Friday and Saturday. 00:01:55.600 --> 00:02:25.240 And then the bunch of bands, a bunch of breweries. Friday opens up with Phobophilic. And then Worm, Undeath, Frozen Soul, Mizmore, Gorguts doing Obscura and what's the other one I forgot? Considered Dead. And then the return of the Black Dahlia murder. 00:02:26.500 --> 00:02:55.460 without Trevor. What do people want to see this day? I'm going to, because I'm just going to start with Stacy. What do you want to see this day? Oh man. Like this day alone, I think is enough like incentive to travel, right? It's such a sick lineup. I'm excited to see frozen soul again. If you've never seen them live, they're such a treat. So good live. If undeath doesn't play fiend for corpses, I'm going to cry because they had, it's like my favorite song. 00:02:55.600 --> 00:03:25.560 that album they didn't play it last time i saw them um excited to see black dahlia murder again i'm excited to see what they're doing without trev i'm glad that they're still continuing on um excited to see me's more i've never seen them live um phobophilic is sick uh it's just gonna be it's gonna be such an awesome day i'm hoping to get in a nap before we go it's my travel day too so i'm like yeah that's rough at four 00:03:25.580 --> 00:03:55.060 It starts at 4, yeah. I'll be at the airport. My flight is at 6.50 in the morning. So I will be traveling early, early. So yeah. When do you get there? I get there at like 9.30. And there was no middle of the day kind of flights where I would be able to get there, wake up at a reasonable hour and still get there in time to catch everything. I didn't want to miss any of it. So whatever. Nap time. 00:03:55.580 --> 00:04:23.760 Hopefully. Except that, you know, as soon as you get off the plane, we're going to grab you and fill you full of beer. Please, I can't check in until like two. I'm going to need somewhere to hang. So, yeah, I'll be crushing your party. Whatever you guys are doing, I'll be banging on your door. Yeah, and being like, can I nick a nap? Yeah, right. All right, Justin, what about you? I am obviously looking forward to Gorgots. I've never seen them live before, so that'd be cool. 00:04:25.140 --> 00:04:32.100 I don't really understand why they're not doing Erosion of Sanity, but they're not, because that's actually 20 years. 00:04:32.440 --> 00:04:34.940 I thought one of the guys said he didn't like that album or something. 00:04:35.920 --> 00:04:37.700 Well, I think I was telling you that, yeah. 00:04:38.260 --> 00:04:42.960 He apparently doesn't like it because he basically said he was just trying to make a suffocation album. 00:04:43.100 --> 00:04:43.980 Oh, yeah, yeah, that's right. 00:04:46.080 --> 00:04:52.720 But it would have been cool to see that album too, but I'm very excited to see those two records live, and especially since I haven't seen them. 00:04:53.920 --> 00:05:23.740 Phobophilic, I'm definitely down for. I haven't really seen anyone on here, I don't think. Yeah, I haven't either. It's cool just to kind of see everyone. I mean, probably take a break during Ms. Moore, I'm going to say. Like, maybe listen from afar. That's going to be tough. Yeah, I mean, I might too. I am interested to see Frozen Soul. I'm not completely sold on them, so I'm hoping a live thing will make me, 00:05:23.940 --> 00:05:25.280 be sold on them. 00:05:25.520 --> 00:05:25.900 You know what I mean? 00:05:26.699 --> 00:05:27.020 Yeah. 00:05:27.260 --> 00:05:27.480 Yeah. 00:05:28.400 --> 00:05:28.480 Yeah. 00:05:28.520 --> 00:05:29.760 There's got to be breaks in there somewhere. 00:05:29.980 --> 00:05:31.020 And there's more probably, 00:05:31.420 --> 00:05:33.140 I want to check it out at least some of it. 00:05:33.880 --> 00:05:34.140 And, 00:05:34.520 --> 00:05:34.680 you know, 00:05:35.260 --> 00:05:35.480 I don't know. 00:05:35.600 --> 00:05:35.980 It might not. 00:05:36.419 --> 00:05:37.660 I'll probably check him out. 00:05:37.680 --> 00:05:40.660 Like I checked out Imperial triumphant at the last one. 00:05:40.780 --> 00:05:40.900 Yeah. 00:05:41.320 --> 00:05:42.200 Like to that degree. 00:05:42.260 --> 00:05:42.880 A song or two. 00:05:43.000 --> 00:05:43.160 And then, 00:05:43.320 --> 00:05:43.400 yeah, 00:05:43.460 --> 00:05:43.920 this is stupid. 00:05:44.040 --> 00:05:44.380 I'm out of here. 00:05:45.400 --> 00:05:45.560 I mean, 00:05:45.820 --> 00:05:48.060 except I don't feel going to be hammered by then. 00:05:48.700 --> 00:05:48.940 Yeah. 00:05:49.460 --> 00:05:49.520 Well, 00:05:49.600 --> 00:05:50.000 I don't know. 00:05:50.140 --> 00:05:50.220 See, 00:05:50.740 --> 00:05:52.600 given that most of us are going to be there Thursday, 00:05:52.760 --> 00:06:22.260 We're going to get destroyed on Thursday and Friday. It's going to be like, oh, I can't believe none of you are going to go check out the pre-show. I know a bunch of pussies. No kidding. Sonia live. Holy shit. They're so good. That last album, it was my album of the year. I drove like two hours to go see them play like a 40 minute set. 00:06:22.740 --> 00:06:52.700 They're not good, but yeah. Go see it. I'm sure you can still go see it. Convince these monogers will go with you. What's that? I didn't really like that album very much. I tried to listen like three times. I just couldn't get into it. I like it. I think we'd really just want to drink and hang out. I think that's the thing of it, you know? We'd rather do that than see bands that were kind of lukewarm on. Yeah. I mean. I wasn't even aware. Who else is on the pre-show? Satan? Right? Yeah, Satan. Haunt. Night Demon. I like all of those bands. 00:06:52.760 --> 00:07:21.840 actually. The last pre-show we did was pretty epic. Yeah, that was like Will bleeding on the white sofa epic. He was either handing everybody beers or he was in the middle of the pit. And honestly, I think he was in both places at the same time when I was seeing him. Getting taken down by James. And that night for me was the first time I had met a lot of you in person, and so I was already just tripped out. Like, oh my god, I'm seeing you in the flesh. And there's Will owning the pit and bleeding everywhere. 00:07:21.920 --> 00:07:51.900 And why are we on a boat? You know? It's just not the same without a boat. We're recording right now. Are we? Yes. Yeah. Oh, that's awesome. I derailed the conversation. That's all right. That's what we do. Yeah. So Justin, that moves us to Markisan. Yeah, I mean, actually, I'm looking more forward to Saturday because... 00:07:51.940 --> 00:08:21.580 We'll get to Saturday when we get to Saturday, do Friday. I'm just saying everybody was like, I'm going to take a nap on Saturday. But for sure, Saturday is the big one for me. But for Friday, Worms is the big one for me because I love Blue Nothing so much. I really want to see them live and I haven't seen them. Yeah, I'm curious about them. Yeah, me too. And I really like their last two releases I love. And then Phobophilic was really high on my year-end list. I think they're becoming one of my favorite death metal bands. 00:08:21.940 --> 00:08:51.060 So I'm really curious to see them. The rest, Miz Moore, I think, actually, while you guys are off, I really want to see Miz Moore. Yeah, I think that it could be really interesting, but it could also be Ahab at Vakken. You know what I'm saying? He has a lot of performances and stuff, and I've missed him a couple times here in Chicago just because I was somewhere else. So the other bands like Frozen Soul and Undead, they don't really do much for me. They're just kind of straightforward death metal bands to me. 00:08:52.699 --> 00:09:21.220 And I'm not huge on Gore Guts or Blocked Dahlia murder, so I think I'm mostly going to be drinking. But, you know, I always want to check out all the bands, like at least a little bit. Yeah. Unless it's somebody that I know I hate, I'm going to check out a little bit. So. All right. Marcus Sondes wants to ensure injury could only possibly happen the second night, not the first night. I'm hanging out with John. I don't think I'm going in the pit. Even though. 00:09:24.900 --> 00:09:26.040 I thought you were like 00:09:27.770 --> 00:09:29.840 yeah but even though last show I went with 00:09:30.000 --> 00:09:31.920 Stacy I was in the pit like I've been in 00:09:31.980 --> 00:09:33.780 the pit since I've been injured I 00:09:33.870 --> 00:09:36.320 haven't I haven't said this to anybody 00:09:36.500 --> 00:09:39.440 yet I don't think at the adroit theory 00:09:39.620 --> 00:09:41.480 show a couple weeks ago that John was 00:09:41.660 --> 00:09:43.680 not there for I was there with Warren 00:09:43.900 --> 00:09:48.060 and and will I got fucking hammered on 00:09:48.180 --> 00:09:51.139 the on the edge of the pit I like I like 00:09:51.140 --> 00:10:21.120 I had to pull an Irish exit after that. I was kind of skirting around the back. There hadn't been a pit like all night. Scaldor played, no pit. Deva played, no pit. Okay. But then Deceased came on and they played like two or three songs. And then all of a sudden just massive pit exploded. And there was this guy standing in front of me who must have been like 6'4". 00:10:21.160 --> 00:10:50.300 And so I couldn't see anything around him. And I just happened to be behind him as I was moving. And he was launched at me from like a foot away. So I had no time to like put my hands up or anything. And he just body slammed me like full on like torso slam. And I was just like, couldn't breathe, felt like my my liver was going to explode. And I just like limped out to the car and left. Okay, do you have any after effects, George? 00:10:50.440 --> 00:11:18.200 I was sore the next day. Like my lungs hurt. It was bad. I'm old and pathetic. Well, if I get hurt this time for some reason, I don't plan on going there. I'm not going to the hospital, so I'll just die on the floor. Because it didn't matter anyways. I waited. Bang your head against the stage and metal takes its place bonded by blood. Yeah. I don't have any plans just because of what happened last time. Even though, like I said, I've been ripping it up here in Chicago. Yeah. 00:11:20.460 --> 00:11:50.420 I have health insurance so I'm going to stay far away. Wise choice. Wise choice. The good news is my cousin will be with us and he has both a degree and a medical degree so he can kind of be our medic for us. In lieu of Eric. I was just going to say he'll be our Eric. Yeah. Eric took care of my foot at Valken. You did a great job. You did. I still have a foot. MacGyver Medical. Actually I feel like I was going to get upstairs. Well I was going to say if I ever got sent to the hospital 00:11:50.440 --> 00:12:20.220 It would have been because of Eric, because he almost fell down the stairs and I was in front of him. That would have resulted in a bad thing. Yeah. All right, Matt, what are you looking forward to? All right. Phobophilic, definitely want to see Worm, definitely want to see. I saw Undeath over the summer or last summer or whatever. They were good, you know, straight up death metal. I would like to see Frozen Soul. I've never seen them. At that same show with Undeath, I saw Mismore. 00:12:20.440 --> 00:12:26.740 I really like listening to them live but it was what was the Vakon reference 00:12:26.940 --> 00:12:49.119 charge? Ahab. Ahab at Vakon for me which I always hate saying that and it's definitely I mean even if like had I not already seen them I would definitely go see it even if I knew that's what it was going to be. Gorguts would be my highlight for the day. I'm super excited to hear those two albums. Luck to your murder as well. I don't know if I've told the story of like years and years and years ago they were on the Jägermeister tour and they were like 00:12:49.420 --> 00:13:18.400 number five out of six in the billing. They were like right before Hatebreed. And before them was Exodus and Napalm Death. And I was like, what the hell is this? Like, I'd never heard of this band and they're playing after Napalm Death and Exodus. And they start playing and like the guitar player almost got in a fight with somebody. And I'm looking at him like, wait a minute, like you guys are my age. And that was like this epiphany for me. Like, oh my God, these people are all like, I'm getting old. Like these people are all my age. But that said, I just feel like I've kind of vicariously grown up with these guys. 00:13:19.120 --> 00:13:48.740 And so I'm super interested to see what things look like now. Because that said, I have seen them like probably 10 times because they've been on so many different tours that I've gone to. So I would say it's a pretty full day for me. Yeah. All right. John. A lot of lounging. So George knows this. I wasn't going to go this year because I was extremely underwhelmed by this because for me, there's not that much variety style wise. Like there was a lot of depth. Yeah. 00:13:49.140 --> 00:13:50.840 I like death metal but I was just like 00:13:52.440 --> 00:13:54.160 and George said well I think there 00:13:54.580 --> 00:13:56.900 I don't know maybe there might be more to be 00:13:57.060 --> 00:13:57.880 announced and so I 00:13:58.780 --> 00:14:01.000 thought well I might just suck it up and go 00:14:01.680 --> 00:14:02.800 and then Gorguts got announced 00:14:03.000 --> 00:14:05.080 I was like I don't have to see anybody else the whole weekend 00:14:05.840 --> 00:14:07.060 because Gorguts is it for me 00:14:07.160 --> 00:14:08.320 now I'm a little disappointed 00:14:08.700 --> 00:14:10.640 that they're not playing a full 00:14:11.100 --> 00:14:12.940 run of Colored Sands that's my favorite album 00:14:13.040 --> 00:14:15.100 by them and it's 10 year anniversary but fair enough 00:14:15.560 --> 00:14:16.460 get to still see them 00:14:17.180 --> 00:14:19.100 so I mean I want to see 00:14:19.120 --> 00:14:48.420 I like Markisan. I do like them. And I like the last two albums. Everybody else I will check out. I'm not into Ms. Moore, so for me that's going to be a break, unfortunately. And I don't really care much about Black Dolly Murder. I don't dislike them. But I want to check them out just to see them because of all the stuff they've been involved with lately in terms of losing their singer. And I actually commend them for continuing. Most people would say not to. 00:14:48.520 --> 00:15:17.700 It's their band. They could do what they want. Yeah, Led Zeppelin pussed out. Yeah. Bunch of jerks. All right. That's an interesting take. It's just the first thing that popped into my head. Well, the who kept going on, dude. Yeah. So, yeah, this is of all the decibels for me. I think I've only missed one in Philadelphia. I wouldn't mind seeing a few other. I'm glad you're going. 00:15:18.520 --> 00:15:46.960 I see you. Yeah. Well, not only did we talk you into it, but TR is going on Thursday, right? Right. So it's, and so Stacy, to answer your question, this is what I will be seeing on Thursday. Okay. A cool band from Santa Rosa, California called Pliny the Elder. And I plan on seeing all their sets. Me too. Yes. I'm going to see the opening act, Blind Pig. 00:15:48.500 --> 00:16:18.280 and maybe Hill Farbstead will be there. So that's what I'll be doing on Thursday. And I was, again, I've seen Satan before the cool. I was underwhelmed by Thursday also. And I just thought it was a good opportunity to go hang out at Monk's. So I was like, you guys can join me or you can go to the show. I'm cool. The way Mark is on, it's like, I will drink with you. Like, we got two. Very progressive band, by the way. You get more progressively drunk as the night goes on. Yeah. So, yeah, that's like the only place I can get that. So. 00:16:18.500 --> 00:16:48.480 I will take all I can get. If not, they're still going to have great beers there. Don't say things like that. This isn't the best lineup. I wish there was more variety. We just don't have... There's not any real progressive metal or... Well, it's weird because usually I like to... I usually like to take a lot of breaks. Like, watch a band, skip a band, watch a band, skip a band. And I don't... Well, at least on Friday, I don't see a lot of that happening. Saturday... 00:16:49.180 --> 00:17:18.480 Sure, I can do a little bit. A little. But I guess let me do Friday. Hold on, wait. Before you go to Friday, let me ask just one question. Other than Gore Guts, is anyone not from the United States? Because I would not be shocked if this was a visa issue billing where they got the bans they could get. And I'm not saying they didn't get good bans. It's a stacked lineup for a number of people. 00:17:18.500 --> 00:17:48.260 I mean, a lot of people like a lot of these bands, but if you don't have to deal with visas and you can get these types of bands, you're going to go with this because they're here. Yeah. You know? Yeah. And they are, you know, and they are, even though they're in the sub genres of, of the music still, they're not like super duper popular. They're the most popular extreme bands right now. So, or the sounds that are the most popular right now. So it makes sense if they couldn't get more different, varied Europe acts, you know? Well, it's just the visa issues gotten even harder, you know? 00:17:48.970 --> 00:17:49.060 um, 00:17:49.830 --> 00:17:50.720 and they already brought, 00:17:50.860 --> 00:17:52.120 they're bringing in three big names, 00:17:52.640 --> 00:17:52.800 you know, 00:17:52.940 --> 00:17:53.780 already to play four, 00:17:53.830 --> 00:17:54.200 I guess. 00:17:54.710 --> 00:17:56.420 I don't want to discount incantation. 00:17:56.420 --> 00:17:59.740 I know there are they second to last or third. 00:18:00.020 --> 00:18:00.440 I can't remember. 00:18:00.580 --> 00:18:00.980 They're down there. 00:18:01.200 --> 00:18:01.280 Yeah. 00:18:01.640 --> 00:18:01.720 Third. 00:18:01.980 --> 00:18:02.060 Sorry. 00:18:02.090 --> 00:18:04.060 I stopped listening that listening after you said, 00:18:04.200 --> 00:18:04.280 God, 00:18:04.310 --> 00:18:04.700 even harder. 00:18:07.700 --> 00:18:07.940 Anyway, 00:18:08.080 --> 00:18:08.840 somebody has got to be will. 00:18:08.940 --> 00:18:09.160 Come on. 00:18:09.720 --> 00:18:09.860 Yeah. 00:18:10.340 --> 00:18:10.420 So, 00:18:10.620 --> 00:18:10.780 Oh, 00:18:11.020 --> 00:18:13.060 I'm sure somebody will bring up the black album at some point. 00:18:13.500 --> 00:18:13.620 Yeah. 00:18:14.420 --> 00:18:14.620 Actually, 00:18:14.630 --> 00:18:15.380 I was thinking about it, 00:18:15.460 --> 00:18:16.600 but I just did. 00:18:17.980 --> 00:18:18.140 Oh, 00:18:18.220 --> 00:18:47.680 I thought maybe you were going to say Leviathan by Mastodon, but I don't know. I actually had that written in actually for later. So Friday, I pretty much want to see everybody, but my least favorite would be Black Dahlia just because if Trevor was with the band, that would mean something just because maybe I have seen them before. So now it's more of a curious kind of thing. 00:18:47.700 --> 00:19:17.360 Like, well, okay, let's see what they sound like now. Other than that, I pretty much want to see. Yeah, I mean, the guitarist, wasn't the guitarist already singing, like, kind of already? So. I don't know. I don't know them well enough. I don't know them well enough. Like, I know a couple of their records and I like, you know, some of their songs, but I don't follow them, I would say. But if I remember correctly, I think the guitarist, like, was already singing kind of background for things. So I can't imagine it sounding so gravely different than what they were doing, you know? Right. I think you're right, Justin. 00:19:17.700 --> 00:19:18.960 Sounds like another band from Seattle. 00:19:20.399 --> 00:19:21.200 Allison Chains. 00:19:22.160 --> 00:19:23.660 I was just going to say it's kind of 00:19:24.460 --> 00:19:25.800 it's kind of weird when they 00:19:26.020 --> 00:19:27.660 replace a singer particularly one that has died 00:19:27.720 --> 00:19:29.100 with somebody that sounds the same. 00:19:29.460 --> 00:19:30.640 I almost want somebody that sounds 00:19:31.540 --> 00:19:32.900 drastically different so that it's like 00:19:33.000 --> 00:19:35.080 all right we're still here but this is a new era 00:19:35.260 --> 00:19:37.400 kind of like David Lee Roth and Sammy Hagar 00:19:37.620 --> 00:19:38.780 completely different eras. 00:19:39.240 --> 00:19:41.240 But then you realize that Jared Cantrell 00:19:41.460 --> 00:19:43.020 sang on basically half of the songs. 00:19:43.220 --> 00:19:43.460 Yes. 00:19:44.320 --> 00:19:46.140 So it still sounds like them for a reason. 00:19:46.780 --> 00:20:16.080 And that's why it's so disappointing when you have these bands and everyone's like, oh, they kind of sound like Alice in Chains. And I'm like, it's almost impossible you're going to find two people that sounded like they did that sang together to actually recreate that again. That's why it's always disappointing to me. Like, I remember when that Dirt cover album came out, I was just like, oh, no, just don't. Yeah, I feel like we tore that up a little bit on here. Yeah. Didn't Chemist do a song on there? That was pretty good. I feel like some of the songs were good. 00:20:16.260 --> 00:20:44.460 Some of them were really bad. Oh, there were a couple clunkers on there. Yeah. I don't remember that now. Was the Opeth version of wood on that? Or is this completely different, this one? Do you guys remember? No, I would remember that. That's a good question. Somebody did wood, though. Yeah, okay. Who's got wood? With a question mark. Yeah, because they covered wood years ago, and their version's awesome. And I hate cover. 00:20:46.240 --> 00:20:48.720 versions of songs by bands. I generally don't like them. 00:20:49.500 --> 00:20:49.860 Really? 00:20:51.300 --> 00:21:04.780 It's not that I want it to be exactly the same, but if you go too outside of the box with it, then I'm like, eh. And most of the time, it just feels like filler on an album when it's done, if it's not part of a band's repertoire live. So, I don't know. 00:21:04.980 --> 00:21:07.180 I just heard one today that I really... 00:21:08.400 --> 00:21:08.780 Go ahead. 00:21:10.240 --> 00:21:39.580 I said, I also think it's very hard with particular bands like Alice in the James, where it's like, you have to walk that fine line of sounding like it's an Alice in the James song, but also like doing what you do. And I feel like it's difficult. They seem to be one of those bands that to me, at least in my eyes, it seems like it's difficult for bands to be able to kind of walk that line, you know? I like some, I like some songs, but generally I'm not a fan. I just brought it up. So chemists did down in a hole. The otolith did wood as the final. 00:21:40.060 --> 00:22:09.140 That's right. That actually kind of matches them. I think the Otolith version was good. I have it on vinyl. I just haven't played it. Believe it or not, a cover song I absolutely love. I don't know if anyone's an Elysian fan, but when they covered... Roundabout? No, when they covered Subdivisions. Oh, yeah, that was awesome. Actually, it was really good, but I joked when somebody posted, I was like, just remember, this is five guys playing the song. 00:22:09.440 --> 00:22:35.640 Not three. Three guys. No, but they actually, I thought they made it their own song and still respected the song. So I, that I appreciate, I appreciate doing it like that. So, you know, whenever we're in the car and Rush comes on, Barb changes the channel. But, but, just so wrong. Recently, Subdivisions came on and she was like, that one's all right. 00:22:39.460 --> 00:22:41.960 I didn't get to the end but I got through a good chunk of it 00:22:43.780 --> 00:22:45.600 anywho let's move on to Saturday 00:22:47.100 --> 00:22:47.260 Stacey 00:22:49.220 --> 00:22:50.640 the only thing I can think of 00:22:50.820 --> 00:22:51.440 who's on Saturday 00:22:51.880 --> 00:22:52.640 oh sorry sorry 00:22:53.000 --> 00:22:53.860 and then suicidal 00:22:54.200 --> 00:22:56.220 I've got the list in front of me so let me run through them 00:22:56.550 --> 00:22:56.960 thank you 00:22:57.180 --> 00:22:59.540 I forget that I'm not sharing my screen 00:23:00.860 --> 00:23:02.740 so first up is Escuela Grind 00:23:03.880 --> 00:23:05.120 super stoked about them 00:23:05.640 --> 00:23:06.440 Fuming Mouth 00:23:08.540 --> 00:23:09.420 Fuming Mouth 00:23:09.420 --> 00:23:38.100 I'm excited about them too. Drowning Man. Crickets. Yeah, indifferent. All Out War. Indifferent. Incantation. Excited. I hate God. Like, I don't need to see them again. Okay. Unpopular opinion, but I'm like, eh. And then Suicidal. Suicidal I'm excited about. Though I've heard, oh, I don't want to do any spoilers, but they played at FTA, which is like a camping sort of metal fest out here. 00:23:38.860 --> 00:24:08.420 And everyone reported to me that they were a little disappointing. No! I know, I know. And it's hard because it's like a camping festival, right? Like, I don't know, like, what condition they were in. They probably didn't have enough Pepsi. Maybe not enough Pepsi. Maybe not, like, a comfortable mattress. Just, like, a good night's sleep is really important. You know what I mean? And I don't know how easy that is to come by when you're in the middle of fucking nowhere with a bunch of drunk people. But, yeah. But, like, I wasn't there, so I don't know. 00:24:08.440 --> 00:24:36.360 I'm still excited to see them there. That's a band from my wee years. Yeah, that's a bucket lister for me. Yeah. All right, Justin, what about you for Saturday? Yeah, I'm looking forward to viewing Math. I dig them. All Out War, I actually thought the most recent one was actually surprising. I was surprised how much I liked it, I guess. 00:24:38.480 --> 00:25:07.620 Maybe. Incantation, that's definitely my excitement for Saturday. I was just listening to Diabolical earlier, actually. And I really want them to play that last track. Well, I guess they're going to. They're going to play the whole album. Yeah, I was just going to say, but I'm super stoked for that. I'm so bad with track names, but whatever the last track on is on there, it's like that. 00:25:08.020 --> 00:25:38.000 It's like two songs in one and it's awesome and it's probably my favorite incantation song so definitely looking forward to that. I too saw I Hate God once and I'm fine with not seeing them again. I've never seen them. Yeah like I said I got I think I was talking about this Georgian when we were chatting I said I'm like I like a lot of sludge music like I love crowbar I love you know corrosion of conformity and acid bath and like all that but I've 00:25:38.020 --> 00:26:07.920 For Some Reason, I Hate God, it just never really did it for me. And then I'm like, maybe I'm missing something. And then I went and saw them live. And I'm like, maybe this is going to be my aha moment. And I was just like, you know, I'm good. So I think I'm pretty good with them. And it was, yeah, I mean, like, you know, it's like, that's kind of like, it's funny. It's like, I don't really know if I know this album, but it's like, I feel like when you're in, when you've been listening and you have friends that listen to metal for so long, it's like, oh, no, I know this entire album. I just didn't realize I knew the entire album. 00:26:08.840 --> 00:26:37.580 I saw your mommy and your mommy was dead. Sorry. Yeah. Anyways. So yeah, that's, uh, that's my, my take on it. All right. Um, oh, sorry. Marcus. Uh, the name of those, the song, the last song is unto infinite twilight and majesty. Right. Okay. I use some of the words, but you know, all of them. So I just said too many words. 00:26:38.020 --> 00:27:07.980 Yeah, that's a lot of words. But yeah, that's a fucking great, great song. Yeah. So yeah, for Saturday, I'm most excited. I don't, I mean, different to all the bands of Reincantation. So, you know, Reincantation's my favorite death metal band. And it's my favorite album that they've done. They're playing it in its entirety to celebrate the 25th anniversary, as we know. And we're also going to have the Mead from Brimminghorn. So that's like all I care about. 00:27:08.060 --> 00:27:10.680 I actually may have to go in the pit for this one. 00:27:11.080 --> 00:27:12.300 So there's a chance I might get hurt. 00:27:12.560 --> 00:27:12.660 Medic! 00:27:13.420 --> 00:27:18.940 Because I don't, they've been even saying that they might not even play this again like this. 00:27:19.100 --> 00:27:20.180 And it's an entirety ever. 00:27:20.980 --> 00:27:22.400 So this is Jake for me. 00:27:22.620 --> 00:27:24.920 So Marcus, if I could interject just real quick. 00:27:25.160 --> 00:27:27.620 Maybe you don't want to go in the pit and I'll tell you why. 00:27:28.000 --> 00:27:28.700 No, hear me out. 00:27:29.100 --> 00:27:37.060 If this is possibly the only time I'll ever do this, you might want to find a spot and just soak the whole fucking, yeah, stay scared. 00:27:37.380 --> 00:27:42.160 soak the whole thing in and just you can get in the pit anytime you want yeah 00:27:42.560 --> 00:27:47.800 that'd be like if opus was going to play still life somewhere i would just say everyone just leave me the 00:27:47.900 --> 00:27:53.100 fuck alone for 60 minutes just give me this one hour of my life maybe you might want to think 00:27:53.200 --> 00:27:57.160 about that and if that's a good point because you're in the pit you're not really like soaking in the 00:27:57.220 --> 00:28:03.539 music enjoying it you're you're you know soaking or or you're soaking yeah maybe just stand close 00:28:03.640 --> 00:28:33.240 Maybe stand close enough so that if you really get jazzed up, you could just push through. Jack-a-dude didn't come back out. Jack-a-dude didn't come back. I like that. Of course, pick him back up. You don't want him laying on the ground. That is true. I really want to take it in and just really enjoy it because it might be the only time they ever do the album in its entirety. How amazing would it be if they got that Horchata guy to come? Daniel Corchato, yeah. 00:28:33.540 --> 00:29:03.380 I know. I know. I keep saying that. From the chasm? There's been no announcement. I don't think it's going to happen, but I would love that. I would love if they did it as a surprise. Yeah, exactly. That would be sick. I hope they do it. That would be great. Then the pit would be insane, I think. Yeah, that's what I was saying. I feel like if that happens, it's almost like you're going to go in the pit. Yeah, I could see them doing it last minute and announcing it. I really could. Yeah. But yeah, I definitely do want to see Escuela grind because I hear they're just amazing live. I've watched. 00:29:03.540 --> 00:29:05.400 some of the performances and 00:29:06.140 --> 00:29:07.520 I dig it so I like the 00:29:07.720 --> 00:29:09.640 energy in that so the other ones 00:29:09.760 --> 00:29:11.040 yeah I'm going to check them out but 00:29:12.240 --> 00:29:13.660 really you don't have any reference to 00:29:13.680 --> 00:29:15.280 that drowning man band 00:29:16.120 --> 00:29:17.620 no I don't know anything about 00:29:17.700 --> 00:29:19.740 drowning man okay it's like some 00:29:19.840 --> 00:29:21.760 hardcore band yeah it's like a 00:29:21.880 --> 00:29:23.660 hardcore band but like they came 00:29:23.760 --> 00:29:25.440 from that era of like that that 00:29:25.580 --> 00:29:27.020 sound that they've had at 00:29:27.620 --> 00:29:29.220 that soul before so I was just 00:29:29.400 --> 00:29:31.080 I thought have they been around a 00:29:31.240 --> 00:29:33.520 long time it was one of those ones 00:29:33.520 --> 00:30:03.380 I think they released, I looked it up today, they released a few albums in the early 2000s and then dropped off and then released something like last year or two years ago or something like that. It's like Albert's Dead Guy for this year. Yeah, like a comeback type of hardcore band. I feel like those are popping up a lot more. It sounds like they probably came out when I was really getting more into metal and less in hardcore stuff. So I probably just missed them. But I'll check it out. I do like hardcore, so I'll check it out. 00:30:03.540 --> 00:30:33.420 Yeah, I mean, I'm interested in all the bands. It's just that Incantation, I would go just for that band. Like, I don't, if I could just see the Incantation play the album, that'd be fine. That'd be worth it to me. So that's the thing. I'm going to be so anxious just waiting for that. All right, Matt. I have actually really loved the newest Squilla Grind album. And I mean, it's a ripper. So I'm actually excited to see them live. My daughter is in Spanish. So I, 00:30:33.520 --> 00:31:02.400 to say that escuela is the only Spanish word I know, which I believe means school, so it's very fitting. And it is? I think it means school. Oh, does it really? Yeah, I think it's so grind school. Oh, well. Yes. You should know all about that then. Yeah, absolutely. I don't know. I mean, I'm sorry. I like Fuming Mouth. Looking forward to seeing them. Like you guys, I don't know so much about Drowning Pool, but I'll probably maybe spin a little bit more. Drowning Pool? Let the bodies hit the floor. Oh, my God. 00:31:03.520 --> 00:31:32.760 Why is that a slip? So yeah, Drowning Man. I'll probably spend a little bit of that before whatever day. All Out War, same thing. Not super familiar, but we'll check them out. Incantation, definitely looking to seeing them. Not as familiar with that album, but you really can't go wrong with Incantation. I've never seen I Hate God live. Interestingly enough, I can't say I've really followed them closely, but because I've, I mean, I stood next to Mike Nine for like two seconds at a hotel, which was, 00:31:32.780 --> 00:32:01.580 You know, underwhelming, I guess. But I would like to at least check them out. Also saw Suicidal last summer. Really liked them. My only disappointment was not seeing institutionalized. But they just had a really good energy. And I mean, Mike Muir just, you know, with the microphone, I feel like is a good thing. So I would say a fairly busy day for myself again. Yeah. With drowning pools. So it should be pretty awesome. A special guest. 00:32:02.200 --> 00:32:32.060 I wish Drowning Pool was on the bell. Honestly, like what? That would be wild. I saw Drowning Pool. I've seen Drowning Pool live. Really? Who did they play with? They played with Dimebag and his brother, whatever that band was after Pantera. Oh, damn. Damage Plan. Damage Plan and Hatebreed. Unfortunately, Dime got killed like two weeks later. And I blame Drowning Pool. I saw them at, I think, 00:32:32.200 --> 00:33:00.540 I think it was 2000 maybe. That's 2000. Yeah. That's all I have to say about it. It's all good. I'll save my OzFest stories for another time. In a few days. You can do a whole bit on that thing. I'll pour the shit out of you. All right, John. So I'm looking forward to Brimminghorn and Three Floyds and all the beer I can drink. 00:33:04.139 --> 00:33:31.860 I'll watch Incantation because all you are so excited to see them. Other than that, I never got into hardcore. I'm so much older. So old. I am. A lot of that stuff just was under the belt for me at that point because I was listening to other things. And my metal upbringing was so much different. So I don't really care much about hardcore, to be honest with you. 00:33:32.200 --> 00:34:02.140 And the rest of the band's like, eh, I mean, whatever. I'm there to have a good time. I'm a free agent that day, so I can just float around. You'll have a martini glass and you'll just be, how you doing? How's everybody doing? Where did he get that Hawaiian shirt from? Why has he got a lay on? My little coconut. I'll be like the total tourist in there. But I'll probably end up watching more than I think, just because I want to see every band. But I'm not committing to anything, which is kind of a great thing. 00:34:02.200 --> 00:34:03.180 feeling when you go to a fest. 00:34:03.810 --> 00:34:06.700 Because you end up, I think, enjoying it more than you would expect. 00:34:07.000 --> 00:34:08.080 Because I'm not anticipating anything. 00:34:09.120 --> 00:34:10.159 I got no high hopes. 00:34:10.659 --> 00:34:11.220 I'm just hanging out. 00:34:11.600 --> 00:34:12.220 Well, that's true. 00:34:12.340 --> 00:34:13.440 Because a band could surprise you. 00:34:13.560 --> 00:34:14.940 You don't really have a lot of interest. 00:34:15.110 --> 00:34:18.760 And then if they're really good live, they give you good energy. 00:34:18.929 --> 00:34:19.480 And then, you know. 00:34:19.740 --> 00:34:19.879 Yeah. 00:34:19.879 --> 00:34:23.879 Like, Inter Arma was like a complete 180 for me. 00:34:24.620 --> 00:34:25.440 You know, I listen to the albums. 00:34:25.510 --> 00:34:26.600 I'm like, oh, they're all right. 00:34:26.730 --> 00:34:28.240 But the production kind of sucks. 00:34:28.580 --> 00:34:58.340 And then when we saw them live at the pre-show, it blew my mind. And I was like, okay, I'm all about this band now. So it doesn't happen a lot, but it does happen. Matt talks about Wake a lot. I was just thinking about that. I mean, that was the 2019 when I'd never even heard of them and they started playing. I was like, what the hell is this? And I've been a devotee ever since. Yeah, they're so good live. And I was in the same boat too, because I like their albums, but then you see them live and you're like, oh, now I get it. 00:34:58.540 --> 00:35:27.940 And then they came out with even better albums. So yeah. So yeah, I hope that happens. I hope, you know, I'm watching it and you know, I get into a band because like, like I said, frozen soul on death. I'm kind of lukewarm in those bands, but if they put in a good performance, I might, I might think otherwise. I don't know. Yeah. We'll see. All right. So for me, it's another day where I pretty much want to see just about everybody. I don't care about drowning man. Um, at least I don't think I do. 00:35:28.540 --> 00:35:56.720 So that's probably a break time. All Out War, I've never been a fan, but I was reading about this album because I guess they sort of changed a little bit. It's a hardcore thing, but it's also got some black metal in it. And I listened to it and I was like, this does not suck. So I'm going to at least check it out to see what it's all about. Incantation, duh. 00:35:58.920 --> 00:36:03.220 I like them live and I like their more recent albums. I'm 00:36:06.100 --> 00:36:13.540 controversial in the fact that this is my least favorite incantation album because the production is one of the worst productions I've ever heard. 00:36:15.620 --> 00:36:25.160 They actually just remastered. I got it again. Actually. Yeah, I think that does appeal to me more. Wait, wait, wait, wait. So you're saying that Diabolical Conquest has 00:36:28.300 --> 00:36:29.740 is what you're saying? 00:36:31.020 --> 00:36:32.600 Well, they're both early albums. 00:36:32.830 --> 00:36:36.240 So actually, they might be just as bad. 00:36:36.440 --> 00:36:43.520 But I think I only say that because it's Diabolic is such a big favorite of Marcus 00:36:43.700 --> 00:36:47.620 that I've listened to it more, trying to be empathetic about this. 00:36:47.800 --> 00:36:50.960 And it's just not happening because the production is absolute, 00:36:51.350 --> 00:36:53.260 just total dog shit garbage. 00:36:54.980 --> 00:37:23.360 I don't think it's that bad. I'm just picking at the wound here, but I'm sure it's going to sound awesome live. He likes it to sound like Lady Gaga. Yeah. This particular album is pretty special for me because it was one of those when I was a teenager going into the used section of a record store and just pulling something because it looked cool. 00:37:23.440 --> 00:37:52.260 I pulled that because it looked cool. Oh, yeah. I'll give it that. Appreciation for that particular record. But I've gotten burned doing that so many times. It's worth it, though, because even if you just find one gem out of like 10, come on, it's worth it. Yeah, back then it was that was that was just the odds you lived with. But I hate God. I definitely want to see that. I've never seen him live. I'm not a huge fan, but I have a lot of respect. 00:37:52.300 --> 00:38:22.280 And I like some of the stuff. So I want to see it. Suicidal, you know, How Will I Laugh Tomorrow is one of my favorite all-time songs ever. Like probably like top five songs ever. So I told Albert at the Adroit thing the other day, I was like, if they do not play that, I will kill them. And he said, don't worry, they're going to play it. So I'm looking forward to that. I wish it was, they weren't the last band on the show. 00:38:22.320 --> 00:38:52.220 the last night because I tend to be tired and want to, you know, sneak out early on that last night, but not going to be able to do that. So, yeah. I mean, it's going to be fun because we're going to be together and that's the cool part to be able to see you guys. Shiny, happy people holding hands. Except for Marcus, he's not into that. Incantation for sure. I actually, I'm really excited about, 00:38:52.400 --> 00:39:22.000 seeing Enslaved with Stacy like two days before. I know, right? Without Ivar, though. Oh, we'll talk about that later. But yeah, that'll be cool. Yeah. Stoked. Should we talk about the beer? Yes. I knew there was, I was like, wasn't there something else I want to talk about? Yeah. So let me scroll down here. There are so many beers. I think I might just camp out at Bremminghorn and just, 00:39:22.320 --> 00:39:51.880 Just get a tap for goat's blood and just... Yeah. This doesn't have a... Where's the full list? I know that came out more recently. I will probably drink four beers the entire weekend. Wait, four total? Four total, I swear. I won't be. I'm a lightweight and if I have more than two a night, I'll just be sleeping somewhere. You're just going to find me in a corner. I don't care how fucking loud it is, how many people around. I'll just be like, 00:39:52.300 --> 00:40:20.560 That's called BeanTR. Yeah, I just need to. And I won't even be super drunk. I'll just be tired, right? So if I want to enjoy any of the music, I gotta slow the roll with the beer, even though I bought the beer and metal ticket or whatever. Well, if I'm being honest, at the last one, I had the whatever it was that Brewing Horn had on top, and that was it for the entire weekend. 00:40:21.420 --> 00:40:51.380 Oh, the emulation one, right? Yeah, I did not. But that was like full mask COVID time still. And I was just like, I'm not having this like sliding between people. You know, it's just body to body, wall to wall. And I was just like, I'm not doing this. I did it once and I was like, that's enough. I'm going to go sit over here by myself in the corner. Having the beer upstairs made it definitely like a can of sardines kind of water. 00:40:51.440 --> 00:41:21.000 walking through there in some spots, you know? Yeah. And I'm assuming that's the way it's going to be this time, too. Yeah, I would, too. Well, I'm going to hang out with Stacy the whole time because she can just come up with me and say, get this beer for me. You're not going to drink it. Yeah, especially the ticketed one. A twofer. I got you. I'll just give you my beer. Yes. Does anybody? Sorry. Does anybody have the list? I can't find it. Yeah, I do have it. It's up on their Facebook page. There's like a five image. 00:41:21.420 --> 00:41:25.760 Yeah, go ahead. 00:41:26.880 --> 00:41:30.180 All right, so the first one, Three Floyds, they got a bunch of stuff. 00:41:30.600 --> 00:41:36.280 One's Buried in Ice. This is the Frozen Soul collab. It's a kettle sour at 6.5%. 00:41:37.720 --> 00:41:38.520 Anybody into that? 00:41:39.710 --> 00:41:40.600 Wait, it's a sour? 00:41:41.600 --> 00:41:44.080 I hate sour, so I'll try it. 00:41:45.460 --> 00:41:48.180 The next one is Phantom Blade. This is the official 00:41:48.180 --> 00:41:51.800 Fast Beer at Pilsner at 5.5% from Three Floyds. 00:41:53.800 --> 00:41:54.300 Gotta try that. 00:41:55.760 --> 00:41:57.140 I mean, I kind of want to try it. 00:41:57.320 --> 00:42:01.460 Now, I never get to all the beers because there's a lot of them, but I kind of want to try all of them. 00:42:02.260 --> 00:42:04.900 But now that I have Stacey as my wing woman. 00:42:07.320 --> 00:42:11.020 Zombie Ice, which I had, John, because you mentioned this, I think, in the last cast. 00:42:11.100 --> 00:42:12.480 I have a ton of them now. 00:42:12.570 --> 00:42:13.300 I can't find it. 00:42:13.840 --> 00:42:14.160 It's awesome. 00:42:14.740 --> 00:42:15.380 It's pretty good. 00:42:15.600 --> 00:42:18.160 It's double pale ale, 8.5%. 00:42:18.180 --> 00:42:47.420 I'll be all over that. Nice. Then they have hella boozy barrel aged imperial stout 15%. I'm staying away from the stouts. That's all I got to say. Gotta have that. I'll be there. No, you gotta try it. They're so small. You gotta try it. Yeah. That's what I've been telling them for years, but they don't listen to me. Yeah, but you could do something about it this time. Yeah. And that's not the only barrel aged one they have. This is the last one on the three Floyd's list. French vanilla militia. 00:42:51.960 --> 00:43:17.980 And that's going to probably be a ticket then. Yeah, they're both, I think, tickets for that one. Those two. So then we move on to War Pigs. They've got three beers. The first one is Blinding Light Show. It's an IPA with orange and lemon peel at 7%. Foggy Geezer, I've had that one. Hazy IPA, 8.5%. And then, 00:43:18.760 --> 00:43:48.020 Another one called, I want to say this, Pareidolia. Mizmore Collaboration. Another sour, a kettle sour, 5.5%. Probably a pass for me. Yeah. All right, moving on. We got Broken Goblet Brewing. They also have three beers. Oh, no, they have four. The first one is Under Her Spell, a Saison at 8.5%. Saison? Yep, I do like Saisons. 00:43:48.160 --> 00:44:18.140 That's a little high for a farmhouse. Right? I thought that too, John. I'm in. Curious. Clawing at the casket lid, a dry stout at 4.8%. Nice little session stout. Also, there's our session except for that under her spell. Eisenbrew, a Kolsch at 5.2%. And then they have a Candlemas collaboration called Doomlogger at 5%. 00:44:18.160 --> 00:44:47.700 You gotta try that. Yeah, right? Yeah, they kept all their stuff on kind of low, which is nice because that way people can enjoy their stuff without being stupid. Yeah. Excuse me, I would like a doom lava. All right, moving on to the next image. It's true brewing. They brought everything. There you go. Two, three, four, five, six, seven. Is Zach gonna be there? I wonder. What's that? I wonder if Zach will be there. 00:44:48.160 --> 00:45:18.140 Oh yeah. I wonder, I guess we could add. Yeah. Yeah. So the first beer is the black Dahlia murder collab child of night, a pale L at 8.5%. Huge. Right. God damn. I got to try that one. Uh, next one is a, is called cold, a Keller pills lager at 4.9%. Then we have a tunnel of trees and IP at 7%. 00:45:18.160 --> 00:45:19.620 7% it's Friday only. 00:45:22.420 --> 00:45:23.180 So I don't know. 00:45:23.340 --> 00:45:25.980 Yeah, it just says IPA doesn't say anything else about it. 00:45:26.120 --> 00:45:28.100 So I have no idea what kind of hops are in it. 00:45:29.880 --> 00:45:33.000 Astara 2023, a mixed culture sour. 00:45:34.200 --> 00:45:35.600 7% Saturday only. 00:45:36.740 --> 00:45:36.920 Good. 00:45:38.620 --> 00:45:42.800 And then beyond the fields we know, a rye saison. 00:45:43.640 --> 00:45:44.320 I'm down with that. 00:45:44.320 --> 00:45:44.700 It's rye. 00:45:45.380 --> 00:45:46.840 4.5%, so it's low. 00:45:47.200 --> 00:45:47.900 Friday only, John. 00:45:47.920 --> 00:46:17.700 Yeah, I know. Then we have a, oh, this sounds good. Blood Axe, Nordic Farmhouse Ale, 7% Saturday only. Really? Yes. And the last one on True, man, they got a lot of beers. Eclipse of the Dual Moon, IPA, 7% Saturday only. I'll try that. So they had a few that are just day specific, but I mean, they have so many, so. All right, so we're moving on to week. 00:46:18.040 --> 00:46:18.300 Brewing. 00:46:18.460 --> 00:46:20.120 And they've got four. 00:46:22.120 --> 00:46:23.000 Southern Discomfort. 00:46:23.500 --> 00:46:25.380 This is the I Hate God collaboration. 00:46:26.640 --> 00:46:28.720 A Pilsner at 4.5%. 00:46:29.320 --> 00:46:32.280 I am not a big Pilsner fan, but you know, maybe I'll try it. 00:46:32.290 --> 00:46:38.060 Some of these lower ABVs I might do like the last day or something. 00:46:38.380 --> 00:46:44.860 Yeah, but you know what, Marcus, on Pilsners and Lagers, if they're top flight, 00:46:45.000 --> 00:47:14.520 If they're that good, then you know the rest of the stuff is going to be good from the brewery. Because they're not easy to make. As Will says. Yeah. No, they're not. And so if you get a good pills, I'm not a fan either. But I've been drinking them more. Because if I actually end up liking it, I want to try more from the brewery. So. Well, here's a brewer, a beer I definitely want to try just because of the name. Frost Hammer. Oh, yeah. DDH Hazy IPA 6.9%. Double dry hopped. 00:47:15.040 --> 00:47:44.100 Wait. Yes. That's hazy. I like hazies. I know brewers, a lot of brewers don't like it. Will hates them. Okay. I don't mind. Not a super fan. The next one. Oh, definitely want to try this one. Two evil barrel aged barley wine. Oh, yeah. They spelled two wrong because it's gonna be like this. Two evil. Yeah, exactly. To the evil, I guess. 00:47:45.020 --> 00:48:14.540 I will be hugging and maybe making out after a few of those. So the last one is the Scuela grind collab. It's a Hefeweizen called Strange Creature 5.2%. It's not very heavy. Most of these beers aren't though. If you look at them, the ABVs are not all, but a lot of them are on the 5 to 6, 7 range max. Well, I'm not talking so much in alcohol, but like a Hefeweizen. Come on, for a grindcore? Come on. That doesn't make sense. 00:48:14.580 --> 00:48:44.020 Yeah, you think it'd be a little beefier, I guess? Yeah, you know, I mean, or just something else, like an IPA or a stout or something. Yeah, I mean, the band may have chosen that, too. I hope they did. I hope they, you know, had input. True. All right, so you can hear me? Am I okay now? You sound better now, yeah. You're good. Okay, that's so weird. Okay, so I've never had these beers, I don't think. Widowmaker beers? Widowmaker Brewing? 00:48:46.960 --> 00:49:14.560 I've never heard of it so this that's interesting because I feel like a lot of these breweries I've had before so here's Widowmakers four beers Blue Comet a New England IPA 7.1% that's all we got return to Oblivion a Vienna lager at 5% try that and then there's an I hate God 00:49:14.600 --> 00:49:15.120 collaboration. 00:49:17.340 --> 00:49:19.160 Drink As Needed for Pain. 00:49:20.000 --> 00:49:20.160 Yeah. 00:49:20.480 --> 00:49:23.880 A double New England IPA, 8%. 00:49:23.980 --> 00:49:24.660 I'll try that. 00:49:25.480 --> 00:49:26.560 So that sounds pretty good. 00:49:27.600 --> 00:49:32.320 And then the next one is the Gorguts collaboration called Obscura. 00:49:33.270 --> 00:49:37.380 And it's a Czech dark lager at 5.1%. 00:49:39.500 --> 00:49:41.460 I feel like all their beer should have had some kind of... 00:49:41.460 --> 00:49:42.400 It's funny because like five... 00:49:43.200 --> 00:49:43.660 Go ahead, Marcus. 00:49:45.260 --> 00:49:45.920 He's trying 00:49:46.900 --> 00:49:48.580 I was gonna say it's funny because 00:49:49.640 --> 00:49:50.880 you know 5% is not that 00:49:51.060 --> 00:49:52.980 bad but I'm so used to drinking like 00:49:53.180 --> 00:49:54.980 10% like this beer I'm drinking now 00:49:55.030 --> 00:49:56.940 is like shit 00:49:57.010 --> 00:49:59.000 I don't even know like 13% or 00:49:59.060 --> 00:49:59.800 something I don't know 00:50:01.740 --> 00:50:03.080 I just feel like Widowmaker 00:50:03.250 --> 00:50:04.820 all their stuff should have been like Navy 00:50:05.200 --> 00:50:06.940 submarine themed you know the whole idea 00:50:07.010 --> 00:50:07.760 behind the Widowmaker 00:50:10.280 --> 00:50:11.120 Is that an old 00:50:11.340 --> 00:50:11.520 style? 00:50:12.520 --> 00:50:41.720 What is that? You got that, Marcus? No. Oh. Yeah. Their beers are Master of Extremity, the Fuming Mouth Collab, West Coast Pale at 5.5%. Extra Naked, a Table Beer. I don't know what that means. How do you get Extra Naked? It's a Session beer. Session. Table is the new Session? Weird. No, it's the same thing, basically. Okay. And then their last one is Caustic Abomination. It's the All Out War Collab. 00:50:42.520 --> 00:51:12.480 Honey and Ginger at 7.8%. So I'm curious about that. Then we got Kings County Brewers Collective. And they have Venomous Villains, a West Coast IPA, Friday only 6.9%. Rise from the Grave, the Undeath Collab, and Maybach at 6.2%. Zombies, a Fruited Sour with Tart Cherry, Guava, and Lime, 5.5%. 00:51:12.520 --> 00:51:16.720 Friday only. Marble of doom, 00:51:17.480 --> 00:51:18.700 fruited sour with strawberry, 00:51:19.220 --> 00:51:23.300 tangerine and peach 5.5% Saturday only. 00:51:24.700 --> 00:51:26.500 And then this is the one I kind of want to try. 00:51:26.700 --> 00:51:27.320 Culp fiction, 00:51:28.620 --> 00:51:32.780 DDH double IPA 8% Saturday only. 00:51:34.430 --> 00:51:39.620 And then we move on to brimming horn where I'll probably be most of the 00:51:41.150 --> 00:51:41.340 time. 00:51:41.680 --> 00:52:10.180 Viking Fruit Punch session mead 8%. Even their session means are pretty high. Wolves of the Ironwood. Love that one. 8% mead. Nuclear Blast Beats. A session mead at 8%. And the star of the show. Goat's Blood. The Incantation collaboration. Also 8%. Nice. And then the last page. Oh no, we have two more pages. Jesus. Fuck that. 00:52:11.660 --> 00:52:41.640 Magnanimous Brewing, Juice Lord, Hazy IPA 7.5%, Dark Messenger Vanilla Porter at 6%, Shadow Side is the Worm Collaboration, a Hellas Bach at 7%. Yards, Bit Viper, Hazy Citrus IPA 6.5%, Frozen Fresh Hop IPA, a Fresh Hop IPA at 7.2%. 00:52:42.220 --> 00:53:11.360 Gold, a strong gold nail. Interesting. 8%. I definitely want to try that. Animated is another brewery. Super Touch Vanilla IP at 7.2%. It will end in hops. The Drowning Man collab. IPA at 5%. I see a pattern here. Whenever the band does the collaboration, the ABV goes down, it seems like. Cosmic Eye, Cathedrals of Blood. This is the Phobophilic collaboration. 00:53:11.660 --> 00:53:41.640 A Ghost with Blood Orange, 4.8%. Dead Man's Run, Premium American Lager at 4.8%. And then on the last page, we got Victory, which I do like Victory. Motel Paloma, Grapefruit Summer Ale at 6%. Brotherly Love at a Hazy IPA at 6%. And then Adroit Theory, one of my favorites. A Stout Darker Than Death or Night, an Imperial Stout at 14%. 00:53:41.660 --> 00:53:42.980 15.5%. 00:53:43.850 --> 00:53:44.200 Bye-bye. 00:53:44.700 --> 00:53:45.220 Approximately. 00:53:46.680 --> 00:53:49.000 And now I am death. 00:53:49.760 --> 00:53:50.940 Destroyer of worlds. 00:53:51.420 --> 00:53:51.820 I've had that. 00:53:51.900 --> 00:53:54.620 Hazy triple IPA at 10%. 00:53:54.920 --> 00:53:55.620 I've had those too. 00:53:55.860 --> 00:53:56.080 Yeah. 00:53:56.640 --> 00:53:58.400 And then the final brewery. 00:53:58.510 --> 00:54:00.160 They've got more breweries than they got bands. 00:54:01.360 --> 00:54:02.100 Empress Rising. 00:54:02.660 --> 00:54:04.240 Dustin Stone Volume 1. 00:54:05.340 --> 00:54:06.980 A Bond Palace collab. 00:54:07.740 --> 00:54:09.380 An English Pale Ale at 5%. 00:54:09.880 --> 00:54:39.340 And then Dustin Stone Volume 2, Human Robot Collab, a Dry Hopped Pilsner at 5%. So that's what we're going to be drinking. And now my mouth is tired. I have fuming mouth right now. Yeah, yeah. I'm probably going to be in the Stacy train there. Like, definitely not nearly even half of those or a quarter of those. I think I'm going to have to make the list, like, what do I want the most? 00:54:39.380 --> 00:55:09.320 I feel like maybe I did this last year and just get those. Mostly I just want the incantation mead. Plus I kind of freak out when I get in there and there's so many people and they're walking around and I'm like what brewery are you? And they're like what? What do you want? I'm like what brewery are you? And I run away. Can't handle it. You went away. Okay I see. Alright. I was hoping there was going to be some coffee stout again and I didn't hear any of that. No coffee stout. That was clenched for me. 00:55:09.400 --> 00:55:38.980 Last time I was like fading and I'm like, wait, coffee style. I'm like, there's coffee in that. Made a difference. Made me rally. I'm not going to be serving any like Red Bull vodkas. This is. You can probably get those at the, at the bar, but you have to pay for those. Yeah. All right. Well, let's move on to t-shirt and beer check. We're at about an hour now. So we're due. Stacy. Ah, what? Okay. Well, it's for, 00:55:39.400 --> 00:56:08.119 I've got my summoning the lich shirt yes and then so I was a little a little unprepared for today I forgot that I needed to like have like a beer for this and so I grabbed what was in my fridge and this is courtesy of my father who likes to leave beer here whenever he comes to watch my kids and it is a it is a Steve Austin oh nice I've seen that 00:56:12.260 --> 00:56:37.760 I wasn't even a Steve Austin fan when I was watching wrestling. But yeah, it's not it's not terrible. And I am keeping it in a Necropanther koozie. Gotta keep it stone cold. That Necropanther album's really cool too. It's El Segundo though, isn't it? It is El Segundo. El Segundo's got good beers. Yeah, no, this is a good beer. I'm surprised. I was not expecting a lot. Being that it was. 00:56:38.120 --> 00:57:07.920 from my father and that it is a Steve Austin beer. But it's good. Yeah, cool. I mean, I love wrestling, but Steve Austin, he wrestled. I got out of wrestling when I was a kid. I watched it a lot. And then when I kind of got out of it, Steve Austin came around that time. And now I've been in wrestling for like maybe the last 10 years, but I missed all the Steve Austin. Yeah, he does come back and he does broken skulls like a podcast that he does where he talks to people. That sounds terribly uninteresting. 00:57:08.140 --> 00:57:36.060 What is he talking about? It's so good. It's actually good. He interviews wrestlers and he might even do people that aren't wrestlers too. And he's actually asked really good questions. He gets pretty in depth with people. So it's actually pretty good. All right. Justin. All right. I'm wearing. Let's see. There you go. I'm wearing my mall t-shirt. Ice mall. Yep. 00:57:38.840 --> 00:57:40.080 I think over Christmas. 00:57:41.960 --> 00:57:43.180 And I'm drinking 00:57:46.440 --> 00:57:47.360 what is it called? 00:57:48.260 --> 00:57:49.920 The Dead Rabbit 00:57:50.940 --> 00:57:51.180 Whiskey. 00:57:52.340 --> 00:57:53.560 Yes, I think that's what it's called. 00:57:54.260 --> 00:57:55.680 It's an Irish whiskey. It's very good. 00:57:56.520 --> 00:57:57.860 Let me move my camera back down. 00:57:57.930 --> 00:57:59.400 I was going to say, move that back down. 00:57:59.760 --> 00:58:01.220 You were pulling a mat there for a second. 00:58:01.310 --> 00:58:02.840 Just starting to slide down the screen. 00:58:04.480 --> 00:58:05.640 I pushed it back too far. 00:58:07.220 --> 00:58:08.100 No, I 00:58:08.120 --> 00:58:36.780 Buddy and I brought this over a couple weeks ago, I think. Maybe around St. Paddy's Day. It's pretty good. I never had it before, but it's good. For an Irish whiskey. For an Irish whiskey. What do you got against Irish whiskey? I just feel like it's kind of indiscernible after a little while. A lot of the ones that people bring by, they all taste the same. I like Chalamardu. That's funny. 00:58:38.120 --> 00:59:08.060 some of that for the first time. Tell me how he's in the Irish coffees in San Francisco at the Buena Vista. Yeah. Nice. Which is like world famous for their Irish whiskey. So yeah, we had that Irish coffee. I should say. Excuse me. Yeah. Tell me how he's in Bushmills. I like that too. Hey, Mike's on. Yeah, I'll start my beer first. It's a new beer I just got. It's from Hidden Hand. 00:59:08.780 --> 00:59:21.580 Brewing Brewing Brewing Brewing Brewing Brewing Brewing Brewing Brewing Brewing Brewing Brewing Brewing Brewing Brewing Brewing Brewing Brewing Brewing Brewing Brewing Brewing Brewing Brewing Brewing Brewing Brewing Brewing Brewing 00:59:38.920 --> 01:00:07.300 This is not a traditional logo for them. It is Alice in Chains in a metal fucking logo. Nice. That's awesome. I love it. I got it on their website and I was like, this is perfect. It's very appropriate for Alice in Chains. I never really got a cool metal logo, but they do now. Okay. Matt? 01:00:08.120 --> 01:00:38.060 Yeah. Gosh, my one Alice in Chains shirt I had was the cover of the album. And because it was slightly album dirt and slightly inappropriate. And so my mom wouldn't let me wear it. So maybe I need to rebuy it. I'll wear it to her house again. Tonight, I'm wearing a Crip Sermon shirt. I'm wearing it tonight because at the last Decibel Fest, I just did not have the best of luck getting shirts that fit. Two ago, I had like the two Decibel Fest ago, I think I bought like 10 shirts. But last time I was trying to get a Blood and Kenti. 01:00:38.460 --> 01:00:40.460 shirt and I ended up having to go with a long sleeve which honestly 01:00:41.220 --> 01:01:08.080 a long sleeve death model shirt is you know no one should argue about that but my Crip Sermon shirt was another long sleeve which I really love but they didn't have a large so I got a medium and I'm just on the fence as to it fitting it almost fits so I was like in the meantime I have to get a you know Crip Sermon shirt this is it this one fits just lose some weight you chunky bitch I know tell me about it I gotta slow down for this and then so I started tonight with Ghost in the Machine 01:01:10.320 --> 01:01:37.820 Never a bad day with that. And then from Old Irving, I believe it's called Mecafont. It's a barley wine, which I've grown to love recently in the last few years. And yeah, that's it for me. John? All right, Matt, I am wearing my All Out of Incantation interdimensional extinction shirt. My first beer was Trooper from TR. Had it a million times. It is what it is. 01:01:38.880 --> 01:02:07.640 And then I just like broke out like a huge bourbon barrel in my room. My whole room smells like a distillery right now. This 2021 from Dishud's Brewing. Nice. Nice, John. Going down deep. I mean, we're going to be talking about death metal bands in a little bit and to see how the cavern is deep, dirgy sound. If only you had it in a bis from 2015. 01:02:11.880 --> 01:02:12.800 You're thinking 01:02:14.140 --> 01:02:14.660 I might 01:02:16.220 --> 01:02:17.220 Hold on wait 01:02:17.360 --> 01:02:17.640 Hold on 01:02:18.800 --> 01:02:21.040 It might have to fit in this bag if I do 01:02:21.880 --> 01:02:24.020 That keeps it nice and cold for the whole ride 01:02:24.400 --> 01:02:24.580 Nice 01:02:25.200 --> 01:02:27.600 I might be 2016 01:02:28.120 --> 01:02:28.260 Okay 01:02:29.080 --> 01:02:30.100 Shit 2016 01:02:30.360 --> 01:02:30.900 That sucks 01:02:32.140 --> 01:02:34.360 I gotta get my beers together for decibel 01:02:34.920 --> 01:02:35.960 I'm not bringing much 01:02:35.960 --> 01:02:40.240 because we're going to be drinking so much everywhere so i have a few i'm gonna bring a few 01:02:40.290 --> 01:03:05.940 yeah i was hunting around there's a local brewery by me the great south bay i was trying to get i've been digging some of their stuff and i can't they can it and they had their local places and i can't find it anywhere now and they're not selling it out of the brewery i'm like god damn it so gotta reassess that yeah i'm wearing my decibel uh death to false beer fest shirt with the uh the goat baphomet pentagram and i'm 01:03:05.960 --> 01:03:35.940 I'm double fisting right now. On one hand, I have Nepente Brewing's Odin's Bane double IPA. I was like, oh, that's a cool art. Yeah, they have all kinds of cool art and stuff. They're Baltimore. And it seems like they have something new every week. And at the same time, I got this one for Markesan. This is the Bushido Way of the Warrior Sake. Yes, I love sake. Yeah, I saw that. Man, I was just 01:03:35.960 --> 01:04:05.940 I miss sake so much from Hawaii because there was this place called the sake shop and they knew me there and I would I drank a lot of sake because they just had really good stuff from Japan and stuff in Hawaii and so I miss it but I found a place that actually imports sake and has a club here so I'm thinking about checking that one out I just bought that decibel shirt by the way George yeah because I ordered because I was featured in decibel as you guys know yeah I got two more magazines of it just so I could have copies of it and then I was like oh the shirts on 01:04:05.980 --> 01:04:33.340 on sale for 10 bucks. I might as well buy it. Yeah, I wore the other one. It was the 2021 shirt. Well, same year as this one to the adroit theory. And Albert saw me and he was like, dude, great shirt. I got to take a picture. Yeah. So that was cool. Nice. But yeah, no, I was in I was in Delaware and I saw this sitting all by itself on a shelf. I was like, okay. And I was like, all right, I'm gonna get that small. 01:04:36.040 --> 01:04:39.260 The only time I've ever drank sake is when we did like sake bombs at like 01:04:39.880 --> 01:04:44.820 restaurants. And that was like literally the only time I've ever had it. I don't think I've ever actually just drank it on its own. 01:04:45.040 --> 01:04:45.920 Yeah, it sounds pretty trashy. 01:04:46.300 --> 01:04:46.920 Trashy. Yeah. 01:04:47.480 --> 01:04:48.400 Long Island trashy. 01:04:48.460 --> 01:04:48.560 Yeah. 01:04:48.680 --> 01:04:48.820 Okay. 01:04:49.840 --> 01:05:02.220 No, I think I'm actually, this is probably the first time I've ever bought it too. I've only ever had it at a restaurant. But yeah, I saw, you know, the whole little, like little ninja fox or whatever that is on there. 01:05:02.220 --> 01:05:02.360 Are you drinking that next? 01:05:02.980 --> 01:05:05.340 No, it's in tandem. 01:05:06.620 --> 01:05:34.740 Nice. I see. Well done, George. Yeah. All right. Oh, before I forget, I need to raise a glass to a former coworker of mine named James Harris. He passed one year ago today, and it's been a really rough fucking year without him, and we all miss him, and cheers to you, man. We miss you. Okay. Cheers. 01:05:37.480 --> 01:05:39.860 All right, now let's move on to the news. 01:05:53.119 --> 01:06:02.720 So first up, apparently the roof collapsed at a Morbid Angel show in Illinois when a person was killed and 28 were injured. Is this near you guys? 01:06:03.600 --> 01:06:09.400 I was supposed to go to the show. Oh shit. I had plans with a few friends that well 01:06:09.660 --> 01:06:33.000 tenanted plans because I ended up was supposed to fly out to San Diego that night but my flight got canceled but it was like surreal. I was in bed because I'm old and I started getting a bunch of texts from people like hey you okay like were you there with like what's what and I was like what happened and then like somebody sent me the link. It's like holy shit so then I start texting like the people who I was supposed to go with like are you okay. 01:06:34.700 --> 01:07:03.080 And then ending up having to text their wives because they weren't responding to me, of course. But everyone I knew was okay, thank goodness. Excellent. Man. Yeah, I was supposed to go too. Were you? It's not near me. I guess it's closer to you, right, Stacey? It's like an hour away. I mean, it's like Chicagoland, right? I don't think we've been heard of. Yeah, it's not in Chicago. It's like an hour and a half or something. 01:07:03.180 --> 01:07:32.960 for me or something like that. But my buddy Dan, it was C2E2, which is a big comic convention here. So I was at that. And my buddy Dan, who does our end tags for us. We need some new ones, by the way. I know I told him. I don't know what he's doing. I told him he's got to do more. So he came out to see me for the convention and everything. And he's like, I want to go to a metal show because I've never been to one. And there's this morbid angels playing. I was like, oh, yeah, we could do that, I guess. And then I thought about it a little bit. 01:07:33.000 --> 01:08:02.980 And because I was at the convention, I just didn't want to drive all that way because I'm exhausted from the convention. So just decided not to get tickets to it. But yeah, we were pretty gung ho and going before the show. So I'm glad we didn't. Yeah, it's pretty close to home. Yeah, really close. Yeah. What I think is so like, wonderful, though, I think it speaks so much to like, the metal family, right? Is like how fucking 01:08:03.500 --> 01:08:32.259 Like that GoFundMe got filled. I mean, like hours. I saw that. It was crazy. Yeah. Hours. Yeah. It's like sort of great to say. I mean, it's like super sad, right? That someone lost their life, but like really sort of comforting to know like how many people are there for each other, right? Like we have a real community. We do. We do. We're so, we're so misunderstood, right? It's funny. Like when students like of mine, like find out what I listened to or like coworkers, 01:08:34.680 --> 01:09:02.980 Yeah, I mean, so many stories about how good the people in the metal community are. We like to pretend we're evil, but we're just LARPing. Yeah, here we are. We're just pretending. A bunch of fluffy puppies, really. We are. Yeah. Well, I'm a kitty. I'm not a puppy. I'm a puppy. I'm totally a puppy. I mean, cats are like bitchy and like... 01:09:03.460 --> 01:09:04.400 And I'm like, 01:09:04.759 --> 01:09:05.259 that's not true. 01:09:05.370 --> 01:09:06.680 Jump up on you and be like, 01:09:07.109 --> 01:09:07.600 give me love. 01:09:07.650 --> 01:09:08.259 Show me attention. 01:09:08.850 --> 01:09:09.080 You know, 01:09:09.259 --> 01:09:09.580 I'm a puppy. 01:09:10.080 --> 01:09:10.660 I'm a puppy. 01:09:11.100 --> 01:09:11.240 No, 01:09:11.500 --> 01:09:13.080 thanks for the stereotype on kitties, 01:09:13.220 --> 01:09:13.299 George. 01:09:13.640 --> 01:09:13.819 Yeah. 01:09:14.000 --> 01:09:14.819 I'm just saying, 01:09:15.740 --> 01:09:16.200 you know, 01:09:16.410 --> 01:09:17.080 you guys do it. 01:09:17.080 --> 01:09:17.759 You guys do it too. 01:09:17.970 --> 01:09:18.560 The whole like, 01:09:18.960 --> 01:09:20.460 what did you say you were last time? 01:09:20.529 --> 01:09:21.259 Were you a badger? 01:09:21.380 --> 01:09:22.000 Is that what it was? 01:09:22.779 --> 01:09:22.900 Oh, 01:09:22.950 --> 01:09:23.400 I don't remember. 01:09:23.920 --> 01:09:24.020 Oh, 01:09:24.200 --> 01:09:25.120 now we're going down the, 01:09:25.730 --> 01:09:25.819 uh, 01:09:26.490 --> 01:09:27.380 I forgot what it was. 01:09:27.380 --> 01:09:28.020 It's already started. 01:09:28.299 --> 01:09:28.940 It was right. 01:09:29.200 --> 01:09:30.160 Cause we were talking about, 01:09:30.220 --> 01:10:00.180 We were talking about bears and I wanted to be something else. Right. I don't remember what it was. You want to be a wolverine. It could be a honey badger. Wolverine. Honey badger. The bitchiest of bears. I'm the fucking emperor penguin of metal. All right. Fair enough. Penguins poop a lot. All right. So this next one, it's not metal, but I just had to put it 01:10:00.220 --> 01:10:29.080 in here because what the fuck uh so apparently bud light did some sort of uh partnership with a trans activist uh dylan something i didn't i didn't write the name down uh but uh the whole like uh kid rock conservative like world lost their mind about this and kid rock posted something uh where he uh uses his machine gun to shoot cases of bud light 01:10:29.660 --> 01:10:59.060 And misses. And misses half of them, yeah. The cans that didn't get hit, it's okay, because the bullets only went and hit school children. It was no big deal. I don't know why Kid Rock's in our news, but fuck that guy. That is what I was leaning towards. I hope he gets shot in the face with a can of shit beer every day for the rest of his life. The whole thing is, he just wants to get people to be paying attention to him. You know he doesn't genuinely feel one way 01:10:59.080 --> 01:11:28.880 or the other. He's just using it to get attention to himself. That's exactly what I thought, Justin. Yeah. It's all I thought. But it leads to a lot of good memes. Oh, yeah. Did you see the Sanguisugabag? I don't know how to say their name. Yeah. Sanguisugabag. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah, they used a little clip of them to promote their show. Nice. Coming tour. Yeah. I just don't understand why he's shooting a whole bunch of cases of water. Yeah. 01:11:29.680 --> 01:11:30.120 Exactly. 01:11:31.440 --> 01:11:46.660 I just think it's really funny that the type of people that are behind that kind of beer, you know, the redneck hillbillies that like Bud Light, they're all of a sudden like, oh, no, we can't drink this anymore. 01:11:47.620 --> 01:11:48.180 Oh, please. 01:11:48.340 --> 01:11:50.660 It's not just redneck hillbillies that like Bud Light. 01:11:51.320 --> 01:11:51.800 Come on. 01:11:52.620 --> 01:11:53.620 Let me generalize. 01:11:53.760 --> 01:11:53.980 Come on. 01:11:54.050 --> 01:11:54.980 People forget, too. 01:11:55.240 --> 01:11:55.320 Right. 01:11:55.440 --> 01:12:25.380 And people forget too, like right now, unfortunately, trans people are like under the, the, the scope of, you know, the extremist people. Yeah. Like being erased and like actively attacked. No, it's horrible. Yeah. Like some, yeah, somehow, you know, addressing that as an early age, they statistically said, uh, makes it set like 73% less likely that they'll try to hurt themselves as a trans person. But yet, you know, 01:12:25.420 --> 01:12:55.400 It's bad and it's evil and all that shit. What I was getting at is people don't... I remember it, but when Bud Light basically endorsed gay people 10 years ago, the same shit happened. It's just people forget and they're just using the opportunity to draw attention to themselves over... Yeah, that's ridiculous. You know what else is ridiculous? The Motley Crue drama. I mean, not... I guess the Motley Crue 01:12:55.440 --> 01:13:25.220 is not as ridiculous, but it is still ridiculous. So apparently, McMars is suing Motley Crue over some stuff. I don't know. Like they were trying to get rid of him. Oh, he's suing him for all the money they're trying to screw him out of as a member of the band because of the agreements they signed when they formed their corporation or whatever it is, their business dealings. And if any of his story is true, which I, 01:13:25.420 --> 01:13:55.160 I tend to think it might be based on how many musicians have come out and supported him. Yeah. I don't like Motley Crue, but I've always sort of liked him because there was something about him. He never was in the media or the news outside of Motley Crue getting in trouble being a felon like the other guys. You're speaking my words. Other than the fact that I do actually like Motley Crue a lot. I like Motley Crue too, George. The early stuff, like first two albums, 01:13:55.280 --> 01:13:56.040 first three albums. 01:13:57.540 --> 01:13:58.500 Yeah, he's a pretty good player. 01:13:58.570 --> 01:13:59.200 I think he is. 01:14:00.300 --> 01:14:01.060 He's a good player. 01:14:01.320 --> 01:14:03.560 He's a lot older, not a lot older, but he's older than those guys. 01:14:03.740 --> 01:14:05.160 Yeah, he's like 10 years old. 01:14:05.940 --> 01:14:07.360 He's garbage as far as I'm concerned. 01:14:08.440 --> 01:14:10.100 He's the only one that's not garbage. 01:14:11.340 --> 01:14:13.220 I don't even like Motley Crue, and I know that. 01:14:13.380 --> 01:14:17.760 Yeah, it just seems like everyone is supporting him on this across the board, 01:14:18.100 --> 01:14:20.520 both a fan and other colleagues in the industry. 01:14:21.120 --> 01:14:50.140 Yeah. I mean, I read the book and I feel like, I mean, he really was the driving force behind the band when it started. I mean, he was the musician who wanted to create the band. He had to add, you know, somebody from Mars or whatever, you know, put in the, in the, in the ads. I would say he's the only member I've never actively disliked, you know, which is probably the same thing of like, he's the only one we've. Well, his story sounds better too, because it's, you know, he had to leave because of, you know, his condition. 01:14:50.460 --> 01:15:18.960 Which he's been playing with for how many years now live? For many years. Many, many years. He still could perform if they were going to do an album. And they knew that. And they just decided to cut him out of everything. Brian Johnson? What? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, it's Brian Johnson's slightly different because he chose to do the race car thing. And so he injured his hearing that way. I didn't know that. I just know they can't do it because of his hearing. 01:15:20.480 --> 01:15:24.220 Part of the beef between them, if I remember correctly, 01:15:25.820 --> 01:15:28.760 McMarris didn't choose this disease to have. 01:15:29.400 --> 01:15:29.980 Of course not. 01:15:30.260 --> 01:15:32.000 His spine, I guess, fuses together and everything. 01:15:32.350 --> 01:15:34.640 Oh, does he have ankylosing spenolitis? 01:15:34.760 --> 01:15:35.480 I don't know what he has. 01:15:36.120 --> 01:15:37.160 That sounds right, yeah. 01:15:37.230 --> 01:15:38.120 I think that's what it is. 01:15:39.460 --> 01:15:42.500 The other thing I would comment on is what he says about the backing tracks. 01:15:42.740 --> 01:15:46.180 I've seen the video where you don't see Tommy Lee playing, 01:15:46.190 --> 01:15:48.560 but they're playing the song and somebody's drumming. 01:15:49.180 --> 01:15:49.760 Clearly the tape. 01:15:50.540 --> 01:16:19.640 So I, it's funny you should bring that up. Any chance I can shit on Tommy Lee and Nikki's sex, I will. Vince Neil, how he's even still allowed to walk around is beyond me based on his past transgressions. But I just find it so funny that what was it, like six hours or the 11th hour, Tommy Lee had to back out because he got injured playing drums. Yeah. And the guy they're trying to kick or got kicked out. 01:16:19.820 --> 01:16:49.780 or whoever Mick Mars left the band has been playing for years with debilitating disease and he stood up there and still played and that dipshit Tommy Lee was probably whipping his junk out to take a picture for Instagram and hurt himself fuck that guy man seriously he's not even that good so it pisses me off and they're all assholes you know you know I does anyone watch the Randy Rhodes documentary I did I watched it that whole it's Kevin DeBrow right yeah Kevin DeBrow when he was they had those 01:16:49.800 --> 01:16:52.440 with him when he was talking about how Nicky Six came in. 01:16:52.940 --> 01:16:54.120 He was terrible. 01:16:54.380 --> 01:16:56.220 And he's like, he nice enough guy. 01:16:56.270 --> 01:16:57.760 But of course, I was back there. 01:16:57.760 --> 01:16:59.040 He said, but he couldn't play at all. 01:16:59.240 --> 01:17:01.420 He literally did not understand how to play his bass guitar. 01:17:03.260 --> 01:17:04.680 He couldn't even teach him. 01:17:04.680 --> 01:17:05.400 He didn't know how to do anything. 01:17:06.120 --> 01:17:09.860 And I just found it so funny that Nicky Six later years saying, oh, yeah, well, they 01:17:10.080 --> 01:17:15.240 asked me to join the band and the band flat out denied it across everyone representing 01:17:15.360 --> 01:17:15.660 the band. 01:17:15.690 --> 01:17:18.760 So I just think that guy's a piece of work. 01:17:19.100 --> 01:17:19.180 Yeah. 01:17:19.480 --> 01:17:24.520 I don't want to say anything. So I've got a friend who's friends with 01:17:24.620 --> 01:17:29.320 Mick Mars and so I've heard lots of good things about Mick and 01:17:30.840 --> 01:17:36.840 you know to piggyback on what other people have said he's the only one that hasn't 01:17:36.860 --> 01:17:43.740 OD'd killed anybody or had his junk on the internet. So I tend to lean towards believing him. 01:17:45.300 --> 01:18:15.260 Or put out that Methods of Mayhem shit. Remember that stuff? Dude, I got the CD in the other room. I sure do. Don't hold that against me. I'm not a big Blubbermouth fan because I think they stoked the fire for all the wrong reasons on dumb shit, but their headlines from this have been just outstanding. And what was the one he said? Just recently I said it to you guys about it. He's the one who's not the felon in the band. And apparently that's built into their business agreement and the contracts that they have. 01:18:15.320 --> 01:18:18.640 signed about those guys being felons. 01:18:19.250 --> 01:18:20.620 And it comes into play. 01:18:21.020 --> 01:18:22.180 And that's why his lawyer, 01:18:22.400 --> 01:18:23.520 they're going to have a field day with this. 01:18:23.620 --> 01:18:24.460 This is the new Queens, 01:18:24.530 --> 01:18:24.640 right? 01:18:24.740 --> 01:18:26.720 Slash pink Floyd kind of thing. 01:18:27.070 --> 01:18:28.540 I feel like it might be on a bigger scale. 01:18:28.700 --> 01:18:29.340 Mick Mars is. 01:18:29.400 --> 01:18:32.960 He has been hanging out with these guys for a lot of years. 01:18:33.780 --> 01:18:34.700 So what does that. 01:18:34.820 --> 01:18:34.940 Yeah. 01:18:34.980 --> 01:18:35.200 But she, 01:18:35.540 --> 01:18:35.620 yeah, 01:18:35.800 --> 01:18:36.140 but he, 01:18:37.090 --> 01:18:37.220 he, 01:18:37.460 --> 01:18:38.400 there was a comment that was made. 01:18:38.560 --> 01:18:39.100 All these guys, 01:18:39.360 --> 01:18:40.460 most of these types of bands, 01:18:40.660 --> 01:18:41.440 none of them like each other. 01:18:41.650 --> 01:18:42.880 They know that they're in it for the business. 01:18:43.760 --> 01:18:43.840 Yeah. 01:18:44.020 --> 01:18:44.440 So money. 01:18:44.590 --> 01:18:44.680 Yeah. 01:18:45.880 --> 01:18:47.400 You're gonna go where the money's gonna be 01:18:47.400 --> 01:18:49.720 That's a long time to be in it just for the business 01:18:49.920 --> 01:18:50.240 though, John 01:18:52.600 --> 01:18:53.940 I've been a government contractor 01:18:54.110 --> 01:18:55.920 for 24 years, I don't like any of these 01:18:56.040 --> 01:18:56.360 motherfuckers 01:19:00.040 --> 01:19:01.540 That's not true, I like my team, but 01:19:02.280 --> 01:19:02.800 you know what I mean 01:19:03.300 --> 01:19:05.860 Marcus, they go on tour before this whole 01:19:06.220 --> 01:19:07.140 fake retirement thing 01:19:07.720 --> 01:19:09.920 they were probably making bank on some of those 01:19:10.020 --> 01:19:11.480 huge shows each night 01:19:11.980 --> 01:19:13.900 it's hard to walk away from that when you have 01:19:13.920 --> 01:19:43.860 that lifestyle. You guys make a good point. I'm just different. No, I agree with you. It makes you wonder. But then again, I mean, look at the Eagles. They all hated each other. Yeah. They still toured. Well, not really. But, you know. Hell froze over. Yeah. Several times for those bastards. All right. So, moving on. This is like just all shitty stories so far. They're not really getting any better. Enslaved guitarist Ivar Bjornsson. 01:19:43.920 --> 01:20:13.640 is going to miss the band's North American tour. Stacy's making sad face. Yeah. So is Markisan. I mean, that's a big piece of the puzzle. Oh, it is. I don't know. How are they going to? He's the primary songwriter. Yeah. Hey, Ozzy's going to go out without Ozzy. Okay. Right. I mean, I'm so excited to go see them. Right. I will never miss an opportunity to see them when they come through. Me too. But yeah, 01:20:13.900 --> 01:20:43.880 It was pretty hard to read. And it came, like, I saw that, like, right after I saw, like, another band that I really love. Their singer's going to be missing their tour, too. Neckar Gobble Con, if anyone's a fan. Oh, wow. Yeah, so it was like a one-two punch. It was pretty sad. Yeah, it's tough, but, you know, they're pros, so they can do it. I'm sure it's still going to be a great show. I just saw when the Contortionists and Rivers of Now toured together, the Contortionists was missing one of their 01:20:43.920 --> 01:21:13.880 are two guitarists. So they went as a five piece instead of six piece. And the singer from Rivers and Nile wasn't at the show. That's right. Well, he had to drop off the tour. Well, you later found out because of the hearing issue. So the bassist had to sing a lot of the show. And so I just saw that. And both bands went out and just fucking crushed as best as they could, missing their musicians. Contourist was better off because they had everyone minus the one guitarist. But we'll 01:21:14.480 --> 01:21:43.600 I have plans to go see them with Warren in DC. You bitch. Cheating on me. Fuck you Warren. Anytime I can cozy up to Warren. Sorry and I got to see him at Detroit without you. I know. They'll be fine. It'll be weird. You're right because he's one of the two main guys in the band. Do we know who's replacing him? Is it anybody? No replacement. Four a piece. Four a piece. Wow. Just ice two. 01:21:43.900 --> 01:22:13.680 Yeah, I think the part they get hurt on the most is his extra vocals, to be honest with you, because he does all the kind of guttural stuff when he does sing. So. Well. Do you think they'll just play like backing, like just like a track? Like, I don't know. No, they're not Motley Crue. I was going to say, maybe they could get Nikki Sixx to do it. Somebody else could probably. He pre-records it in advance before the tour. I don't know. I mean. Well, maybe this will. They have three other singers in the band. I'm sorry, George. I didn't interrupt you. They can fill that part, I think. It just will be different. 01:22:13.920 --> 01:22:43.140 And maybe this will be one of those times where you're like, oh, I saw them that time. They were a four piece, you know, you know, it'll be special somehow. And this album, this album is so good. Like, I know it's like a lot of your album of the month. Yeah. I'm excited to see it. Yeah. Yeah. And they're always awesome live. So I haven't done a show with Stacy in a while. So that's going to be, I know, I know. What was the last one? Was it goat horn? I think so. I think it was. 01:22:43.220 --> 01:23:13.120 No, we went out into the suburbs. Go over us here. Oh, yeah. No, we saw Gate Creeper. Yeah, Gate Creeper is a lot. That's when I was in the pit. Yes, yes. For anybody that doesn't know, Stacey is the metal queen of the Midwest. She goes to more shows than anyone ever. I go to a lot of shows. I do go to a lot of shows. There's people that I see out at those shows that I think are at more shows than me, but I try to go as many as I can without being like a bad mom. 01:23:13.740 --> 01:23:42.440 Yeah. April and May are stacked. I'm going to be like, like my kids are going to hate me. But we were talking about it too, because decibel, you know, it's two days later and we were like, should we go to this enslaved show? Yeah. Got to. And then there's, I know. And then when I come back and you guys want to hear my show calendar, well then I got to pull it up. I won't go over everything. There's so much, but like when I come back, there's carcass. Yep. Moons of Waste and Creeping Death. 01:23:43.220 --> 01:24:12.900 And then that Friday, the 21st, I'm going to go see an all-gay ACDC cover band called Gay CDC. Yes, yes. I'm really excited about that. I bought like a VIP table because I'm old and it was $30 and I like to sit because I'm old. That's cheap, $30. That's not bad. Yeah, no, right? Oh, God. So it's at this place called the Livewire. It's like the size of the room I am in right now. It's so tiny. It is. I buy seats all the time and I hate paying twice as much for the seats. 01:24:13.240 --> 01:24:42.980 Tickets, but at like halfway through the set, I'm like, I'll have another beer. I know. Marcus, are you going to the chemists? Wake Conjure? Yeah. Chemists, Wake and Conjure on what? It's funny. I saw that. I saw that concert announcement. I'm like, Marcus, I'm probably freaking out over this right now because it's chemists and Wake. Like chemists and Wake are like two of my favorite bands. Like I'll see either of those bands anytime they come if I'm here. Yeah. I was, I was excited too, 01:24:43.100 --> 01:25:11.160 But we are headed to California that day. So. And I just saw Wig. They were just here. But I'm going to see it again. I don't care. Jeez. Yeah. So it's stacked. Yeah. And May. May is really stacked too. My concert schedule for the rest of the year. August and September. Bruce Springsteen, Madonna, and Peter Gabriel. Nice. Yeah. Metal! 01:25:13.100 --> 01:25:41.160 The only two things I bought tickets for so far for after Decibel is Moontooth's playing Brooklyn. And I love my Moontooth. So I will be seeing them there. And the Emperor show. Warren's talking about going up for that. So yeah, so I'm so fucking stoked for that. Did you guys hear the news about Emperor? The door might open for a new album. What? 01:25:43.600 --> 01:26:13.060 if the situation is right, Eson said. I was like, oh, they're going to do it. They'll probably do it, yeah. That would be awesome. Or at least I hope it would be. Oh, Herakiri for the Sky. Oh, yeah. Mother's Day. Unrequited. Are you going to it? Yes. Of course she is. It's Mother's Day. I get to do whatever you want. You can do whatever you want. I'm a mother. I think we talked about this, actually. Vukhari is also playing. Unrequited is like what my husband 01:26:13.080 --> 01:26:42.800 I know you're excited about that. They've never played live. Ever. Because it's this one guy. He had to get a band and he lives across the ocean. Right. And they canceled this tour because of COVID. Now they rescheduled it. So I'm like, I'm really excited for this. Yes. Yeah. No, I was supposed to see, well not on record, but I was supposed to see Harakiri before, right before lockdown. It was one of the shows that like I had, I think it was within a month of lockdown. Like I canceled. Like one thing. Yeah. There was like, 01:26:43.100 --> 01:27:12.960 I think like three or four shows that I was supposed to go to. I can't wait to hang out with you on Mother's Day. I know. It'll be great. I was supposed to see the Rolling Stones and that got canceled by COVID and then fucking Charlie Watts died. Dang it. Dang it. Damn it. Anyway, I've got I have Carcass right after a decibel on my wife's birthday. And I told her like she was like, you can absolutely go because she like Carcass is obviously my band of bands. And then I've got I think it's the decibel. 01:27:13.120 --> 01:27:43.020 with Calvary Decapitation in May. Oh yeah, I'm excited about that one too. And Dark Angel. And Dark Angel with Black Braid. So good. Yeah, that was a good stuff for me. And then I want to say 200 Sab Wounds maybe is on that bill. Oh yeah, no, I think you're right. What an odd lineup. I don't think I'm going to the Carcass. It should be interesting. Oh, you have to. Why am I doing that? And then I'm taking my kid to Queen. It's going to be his first rock show, so I'm excited for that. That's so exciting. 01:27:43.580 --> 01:28:12.160 Yeah, that'll be good. I saw them. Yeah, cattle cattle. I might go see Macedonia and Gojira playing at the end of the summer. I might go to that because I missed Gojira the last time. That's with Lorna Shore, right? That same tour? Yeah. It's like, yeah, I'm going to that one too. That's in September out here. Are you going on 6-6 Yob Kaven? Oh, no. I don't know if I am. Hold on. I think it's because there's something else. 01:28:14.440 --> 01:28:16.020 I've never seen Yob live. 01:28:16.460 --> 01:28:17.240 So I'm very excited. 01:28:17.300 --> 01:28:17.820 They're awesome. 01:28:18.000 --> 01:28:19.060 I actually have. 01:28:19.460 --> 01:28:20.400 Yeah, they are really good. 01:28:20.450 --> 01:28:24.660 I think I saw them, well, they were headlining, but I think I saw them with Huntsman. 01:28:25.240 --> 01:28:25.600 Okay. 01:28:26.120 --> 01:28:28.200 I saw them with Bellwitch. 01:28:30.140 --> 01:28:30.500 Bellwitch. 01:28:30.660 --> 01:28:32.080 I saw them with Neurosis. 01:28:33.360 --> 01:28:34.240 They were great. 01:28:34.780 --> 01:28:35.040 Ding. 01:28:35.620 --> 01:28:37.180 Hey, Matt, did you have a question about Queen? 01:28:37.400 --> 01:28:38.180 You looked like you did. 01:28:38.670 --> 01:28:39.700 Did they play Stone Cold Crazy? 01:28:39.960 --> 01:28:40.260 Oh, yeah. 01:28:40.760 --> 01:28:40.940 Okay. 01:28:41.400 --> 01:28:41.740 I'm good then. 01:28:43.500 --> 01:29:12.900 It's all I need. Is that like looking up a set list? Can you do that? I do that all the time. I am totally fine with spoilers. Are you? I would do that. Yep. I do sometimes because I have really bad anxiety and I just want to know. Yeah. I'm like, if you're going to ruin my night, let me know now so that I can, you know. Sometimes, honestly, for this concert, it's a whole different scenario because really I just want my son to go and enjoy himself. Right. That's really all I care about. Yeah. If I wasn't taking him, like when I went to see the 01:29:12.920 --> 01:29:42.160 Cure. If you don't, like, are they going to play Bird? That's my ultimate Cure song. And they did. And so, but part of me wants to know that up front so I can go in and know I'll hear that at some point or I can go in and be like, everything is fine. It's not coming. I shouldn't expect it. I was going to say that's from the Crow. Absolutely. My favorite soundtrack of all time. I almost mentioned it earlier because John was talking about hating covers and I was like, dude, you got to like Nine Inch Nails, Dead Souls cover of Joy Division. Love that song. That whole album is. 01:29:44.060 --> 01:30:12.260 That's a good one, yeah. I really wanted to see The Cure, but they had that thing where you had to put in for tickets and they notify you if you can get tickets. Everybody does that now. It's so dumb. Yeah, I did that for, I think it was Springsteen, actually. And they were just like, nah, you can't have tickets. Wait, what is this? I don't know what this is. I don't think I'm... It's a lottery. So it's not everybody like pounding on 01:30:12.320 --> 01:30:41.820 on the site at the same time trying to get tickets, they have people sign up ahead of time. And then they randomly pick people and give them a code and say, okay, you know, X many number of people can go in and shop for tickets. And then it's like after that's done, then the general public can go in and pick over what's left, which is what we did. Yeah. I mean, they do that for sneakers. That's so weird. They do. So my husband's a sneakerhead. Yeah. 01:30:41.920 --> 01:31:11.900 And like, so when there's like Nike shoes, like certain Nike shoes that are coming out, that are big, they do the same thing. It's like a lottery. Like you sign up to see if you can get it. And then like, they'll email you if you have the chance to buy. And it's not even like buying your size. It's like, here's an opportunity to buy like whatever we have. Yeah, it's wild. And I had never heard of this until the whole Taylor Swift debacle. Cause my wife was trying to get tickets for our daughter and she said, Hey, will you sign up to be part of the lottery as well? Of course I did. And I was the 01:31:11.940 --> 01:31:12.960 one of us to get chosen. 01:31:14.220 --> 01:31:17.320 And, you know, she sat on the phone for 12 hours and got tickets. 01:31:17.580 --> 01:31:19.740 But times have changed. 01:31:20.160 --> 01:31:22.080 When you were like, screw you, daughter, I'm going. 01:31:22.640 --> 01:31:22.840 No. 01:31:23.910 --> 01:31:31.240 When Bruce toured for Born in the USA, when all you guys were still probably in grade school. 01:31:33.240 --> 01:31:37.220 So that's back when you had to actually go get the tickets or call on the phone. 01:31:37.560 --> 01:31:38.340 You're staying in line. 01:31:38.550 --> 01:31:38.920 Oh, yeah. 01:31:39.780 --> 01:31:40.440 I remember. 01:31:40.800 --> 01:32:10.780 They did a lottery for Bruce. People lined up for days and they gave you wristbands. You're standing in this line and then they'd start calling off the numbers, the group. You could be standing literally the first person in line and not get tickets because it was all lottery based, but everyone had to get in line to get their wristband. We did that for you too. That's what they did in the 80s. They did wristbands standing out. I don't care about anything enough to do that. I don't know. We used to get in line for 01:32:10.820 --> 01:32:40.740 Tickets for shows all the time. We get out there at like four in the morning. I camped out for Metallica tickets on the Justice Tour in 88. Yeah, you're like, how did all these people get here already? We spent the whole night at the fucking mall in Ann Arbor. And there was like nobody there. Like we did it because we were like, oh man, we got to get tickets. So there's like three of us there all night. And I had to like... Did you ever have a day? Huh? Sorry, George. No, what was the question? No, I was like, did you ever have a day where like there was like two big shows going on sale at the same time? 01:32:40.820 --> 01:33:10.760 and you're competing with other people. I remember trying to get Jane's Addiction tickets the same day that Garth Brooks tickets were going on sale. Oh, wow. And missing out because of the Garth Brooks people. Because they were in the way. Gotcha. Yeah. Now, I don't know if I feel like that might have happened, but I can't recall it. But yeah, it was rough back then. But yeah, I stayed out all night at the mall. I couldn't stay the whole night. I had to like leave in the morning to go to school because my parents wouldn't let me skip school to get the tickets. So I just stayed to make sure my friend didn't get killed. 01:33:11.180 --> 01:33:40.780 and then like left at like six o'clock in the morning and wow so yeah what were they for metallica justice tour wow yeah i don't wait in line now well except for record store day i will they don't there's no more lines for tickets so i mean it's everything on your phone wow stacy virtual it's not quite true john because sometimes they do they do a surprise announcement sure jack white comes here and you gotta stand in line and get tickets yeah i know to get them but you're right for the most part 01:33:40.800 --> 01:34:10.520 I'm just thinking, Stacey, the planets that had to align for you to be getting tickets the same day as Garth Brooks tickets. So we're talking about all these bands and they're all big. But Garth Brooks was in his prime. Holy shit. Oh, yeah. He blows everyone out of the water when it comes to selling tickets. He played in front of a million people in Central Park. So, I mean, whether you like him or not, you can't deny the guy had massive. I do actually like him. I mean, when you see people doing two shows, 01:34:10.800 --> 01:34:40.760 Like in an arena, he's doing like 10, he did like 10, 10, 10 nights in one day. It's insane. Yeah. And that's in New York, which I wouldn't say is exactly, I mean, just country. Yeah. I mean, but that, that tells you a lot about his, his power to pulling people. Oh yeah. I mean, he created pop country really. Right. He did. Pop country. Yeah. And somehow he still sounds old school compared to current modern country. Yeah. Go figure. I thought pop, I thought pop, 01:35:01.360 --> 01:35:10.280 I've been there too. 01:35:10.800 --> 01:35:40.680 On like big show days, like having people, they do the, they do the lottery. So that you not spending the night in the parking lot, but then you, you end up having people doing that anyway. There's a big, there's like a big story. I wasn't there for that, but like during the, there was a sale for ICP in St. Cloud Posse that like got so fucking crazy, like obliterated, like the parking lot at Tower Records. Like it's a legendary, I think like for people who, who worked at that tower or, 01:35:40.800 --> 01:36:10.260 I grew up around like when that was happening. I'm getting depressed talking about Tower Records. I know. Oh sorry. I grew up in Northern California and Tower Records you know was from Sacramento so they were everywhere out there and now it's just like I think there's the one in Tokyo. Yeah. I don't think the one in Sacramento is still there so. No I think that they have like a very small online presence. I'm not even sure how it works but occasionally I'll see them pop up in like my Facebook feed or whatever. Such a bummer. 01:36:10.320 --> 01:36:10.920 Yeah. 01:36:11.400 --> 01:36:11.540 Yeah. 01:36:11.650 --> 01:36:12.140 I like, 01:36:12.320 --> 01:36:13.000 I loved it. 01:36:13.080 --> 01:36:14.340 Like when I first learned to drive, 01:36:14.560 --> 01:36:15.560 like that was where I would do it. 01:36:15.620 --> 01:36:16.240 Like on a Sunday, 01:36:16.270 --> 01:36:21.160 I would just drive to tower records and just spend the day there looking at fucking everything. 01:36:21.580 --> 01:36:21.740 Yeah. 01:36:21.960 --> 01:36:22.960 Literally it would be everything. 01:36:23.140 --> 01:36:23.320 Yeah. 01:36:23.580 --> 01:36:29.400 I would spend two hours just like started a and just go everything a to Z and, 01:36:29.810 --> 01:36:30.160 you know, 01:36:31.040 --> 01:36:32.400 look for metal bands that, 01:36:32.680 --> 01:36:33.040 and I'm like, 01:36:33.150 --> 01:36:33.760 is this metal? 01:36:33.770 --> 01:36:34.320 I don't even know. 01:36:34.320 --> 01:36:35.140 It looks kind of metal. 01:36:35.580 --> 01:36:36.200 I'll buy it and see. 01:36:38.040 --> 01:36:38.380 Man. 01:36:38.420 --> 01:36:38.880 If you could afford it. 01:36:38.880 --> 01:36:39.560 What I used to do, 01:36:39.760 --> 01:37:09.740 What I used to do is I would stand in the magazine section and go through all the magazines. And then if there was like a band that I saw in there, then I would go up for it. I would do that shit too. That's smart. I found some good bands that way though. I mean, I found Sentence that way. Nice. And that's all, you know, as many of you know, it was one of my favorite bands and it was one of those rough days where you just couldn't find anything and I was like Sentence. That sounds metal and the cover was just shit. And I was like... 01:37:09.760 --> 01:37:39.640 So I'm curious if this is like a Long Island thing, but there used to be a Tower Records commercial that would play, and it seemed very local to me, and they would advertise the same two albums, but for like 10 years, it was always the same two albums on the commercial, because it was like, it seemed super local, and it was this, it was some kid's thing called Zebby Zoo, and then it was Cannibal Corpse, and it was just weird, because like, it would just be, but it was like 10 years, like, they just ran the same, 01:37:39.780 --> 01:38:09.660 They never changed the albums after a while. That's why. That's weird. But I don't know. I'm assuming that's a local thing. Yeah. I don't remember many Tower Records commercials. Even like being someone who like worked there or whatever. I don't remember. Do you remember what Cannibal album it was? That they were advertising? Oh, shit. What's the one right after Vile? Shit. Yeah. Someone look on their phone. Yeah. Look on your phone. It's funny. 01:38:09.780 --> 01:38:39.740 because I remember as a kid seeing commercials for Iron Maiden, which was very unusual because it was like before I was even really into music. So it was like early 80s and that was probably like peace of mind or something like that. And I mean, you never saw commercials, at least not in Michigan, for music, hardly ever. So it was kind of a strange thing. But then a few years later when I learned what Iron Maiden 01:38:39.780 --> 01:39:09.740 was like, oh, this is that band. It was on the TV. That's weird. Anyways. Yeah, it was Bloodthirst. Oh, yeah. Okay. I was gonna say Gallery of Suicide, but yeah, Bloodthirst. Right on. Let's move on to our new releases. First up, we have the new All Father album, A Violent Truth. This is their third album. They're a UK 01:39:09.760 --> 01:39:39.680 Doom Sludge Band. Tom's been on here a couple of times. And I gotta say, when the single started dropping, I was kind of like, I don't know. But I listened to it front to back, and this is a fucking banger. Just a solid album. Yeah, I liked it. Actually, I think from him being on here, I started listening to some of his stuff. I liked it. Yeah, this one's pretty good, too. It hasn't made it into my playlist yet. I'm giving it a couple spins, but I'm digging it a few times I listen to it. Yeah, I'm digging it a lot. 01:39:40.420 --> 01:40:09.740 It's an EP, technically. Technically, yes. That's what I'm upset about. What is it, like 26, 27? 27 minutes. I don't know what it is about this year for some reason, but I'm noticing they're playing fast and loose with the EP thing this year. I don't know what it is. I read about this. I forgot where, though, but I think it just makes more sense economically for people to keep dropping EPs because I think you can do them more frequently than a 01:40:09.780 --> 01:40:39.560 a long player. Yeah, somebody's been doing that. There was one record that just came out that was like 26 and change, and it was considered an EP, and I'm like, I don't know if I, I mean, I don't know. Where do you draw the line? I think that technically falls as an EP, though. Yeah, so, podcast rules, podcast rule is the rain and blood rule. It has to be. It's a podcast rule, but it's not a real rule. No, it's just podcast rule. How long is the time on that? I don't remember. 28 something. 01:40:41.940 --> 01:41:09.420 I'm pretty sure Allfather is considering this a full length. And to be perfectly honest, after... Spotify is tagged as an EP. Yeah, Spotify does it a lot, I noticed, yeah. Okay. But I don't know, I mean, that doesn't mean I can... It's the same argument. When a Grand Corps band releases a fucking 17-minute album, and they charge you more for that than an EP, you're kind of like, really? Yeah, and we're going to get to that with our next album. Right, there are even certain bands I noticed, like, I'll look on, 01:41:09.440 --> 01:41:39.420 I'll look them up on Metalum and it'll say it's an LP and then you go to Spotify and it says it's an EP. My rule is always Raid in Blood. It's just short of 29 minutes, like 2855. If you guys want to put it on, I don't give a shit because it's enough to use it. You know what Metal's all about? No rules. I'm not putting it on, but you can. I'll tell you why. Because there's no extra bonus bullshit. There's no cover, there's no demos, there's no live track on it. It's a full 01:41:41.160 --> 01:41:44.280 It's over 24 minutes 01:41:45.520 --> 01:41:47.440 and I like it enough, I'll probably 01:41:47.570 --> 01:41:49.380 throw it on my regular albums 01:41:49.530 --> 01:41:51.500 of the year instead of keeping it as an 01:41:51.640 --> 01:41:51.800 EP. 01:41:53.520 --> 01:41:55.120 It comes in at 27.05. 01:41:56.000 --> 01:41:57.560 Metal Archives does call it a full 01:41:57.700 --> 01:41:57.900 length. 01:41:59.340 --> 01:42:00.380 That's tough. I'm like 01:42:01.300 --> 01:42:02.180 a minute. 01:42:04.300 --> 01:42:05.600 I wouldn't begrudge 01:42:05.700 --> 01:42:07.600 you a minute if you wanted to call it an album. 01:42:08.240 --> 01:42:37.500 I know. You gotta draw the line somewhere, though. Yeah, I understand that. Does it matter anymore? When does it matter? When you're buying the physical format? I don't know. Like, when does it matter? It matters with our number two, and that is the new Rotten Sound album, Apocalypse, their eighth album, their finished grindcore band, and they're calling this an album and charging like $10 for 20 minutes worth of music. You see how much the vinyl is for this? No. It's like 33 on Bandcamp. I'm like, fuck that shit. You know, 01:42:38.260 --> 01:43:07.580 So good. 18 one minute or less songs where they just screech at you while playing as fast as they can. No, Rotten Sound. It's a good album. I like it. I always thought grindcore bands got a pass when it came to that, when it came to albums. Well, you know, what irks me is that anymore, you can put out a 15, 18 minute grindcore record and call it an album. But you go back into the day, like Anal Cunt, their songs were like short, but they had like 58 of them. 01:43:09.180 --> 01:43:37.360 You know, it's like the first AC album was 58 minutes long and I had 58 songs. Sorry, you know who's getting screwed on this deal is Cult of Loda. They're putting out 40 minute EPs and they're getting fucked on this deal. Yeah. So, I mean, you know, if you're going to, I don't know. I mean, my main gripe is like, I'm not going to pay $10 for 10 minutes worth of music. No. You know, or even 20 minutes worth of music. 01:43:38.260 --> 01:44:06.640 But, I don't know. Regardless, I like the Rotten Sound release, whatever you're going to call it. It's pretty fucking banging. Not so much, Marcuson? I'm okay if you put it on. Do it. Put it on. Was the thumb down for it being an album or whether it was good? Both. Screening, I'm going home. I'm with you on that, Marcuson. I'm not a fan. 01:44:08.260 --> 01:44:38.220 most controversial, controversy album of the episode. And that is the band that I don't know how to pronounce. It's either Lamp of Murmur or Lamp of Murmur. I don't know. Maybe there's a cow in there somewhere. It's just Murmur. Murmur. It's just extended Murmur. Lamp of Murmur. Matt 01:44:38.240 --> 01:45:08.180 I was going to Lamp and Murmur as well. Come on, Marcus. If I didn't know, I would put it into Google and see what Google, how that pronounces it. It's a real name. He's not going to know what to say. Well, that is a whole other level of problems for me. A whole other bag of issues. Dr. Finkel signed about that later. It's a whole other podcast. There's more debate than just how to pronounce the name. Saturnian Bloodstorm, their third album, their, his third album, L.A. Black, 01:45:08.260 --> 01:45:38.180 Black Metal Dude. And apparently this album's causing a lot of controversy because the first two albums were very old school, raw, Darkthronian Black Metal, which at first annoyed me. But then I was like, this is actually pretty good. And you could write songs. Yes. Yes. I was like, oh, good. Another really raw piece of shit that you actually have to work to make sound like shit. Because with this recording technology these days, it sounds good whether you want it to or not. 01:45:40.420 --> 01:46:08.220 But this album is a giant leap forward, whereas the first two albums are more like 93 Dark Throne. This is much more modern sounding. The production is really good. The music is way leaps and bounds forward, I think. And apparently people are complaining about the production improvement. And as John told me, the fact that it sounds a little bit or a lot of bit like 01:46:08.240 --> 01:46:12.040 And after listening to it again today, I'm guessing that's in the vocal department. 01:46:13.120 --> 01:46:22.240 Yeah, well, and it's a little thrashier than some of the early stuff. I find this just, music fans in general just annoy the fuck out of me for this reason. 01:46:24.520 --> 01:46:30.660 It's good, but if I want Immortal, I'll listen to Immortal. I like the first two albums. Oh, you mean the albums that sound like Dark Throne? 01:46:31.460 --> 01:46:35.720 I mean, so what you're saying is you just like Dark Throne more than Immortal. 01:46:36.100 --> 01:47:04.300 Yeah. Honestly, this album's better than anything Immortal's ever done, as far as I'm concerned. I like Immortal. I don't know about that. I like Immortal. I like Immortal. I like Immortal. And it's funny, too, because I felt the same way. I had listened to some of their earlier stuff, and I'm not a Dark Throne guy, so to me, I didn't, nothing really. I was surprised by this. Yeah, actually, to me, it was Immortal and Old Man's Child production value put together. 01:47:06.100 --> 01:47:09.520 I don't necessarily know if it's going to be something that I'm going to continue to listen to. 01:47:09.880 --> 01:47:12.500 But I dug it and I kind of dug some of the sounds. 01:47:12.660 --> 01:47:15.960 But again, I'm not like I'm picky with my black metal. 01:47:16.200 --> 01:47:17.660 So we'll see if it sticks or not. 01:47:17.800 --> 01:47:18.640 But it was good. 01:47:18.800 --> 01:47:19.820 I mean, I was surprised by it. 01:47:20.240 --> 01:47:20.760 I'd be surprised. 01:47:21.560 --> 01:47:22.240 It's not slick. 01:47:22.800 --> 01:47:23.780 It's just better production. 01:47:24.080 --> 01:47:24.200 Yeah. 01:47:24.340 --> 01:47:24.460 Yeah. 01:47:24.780 --> 01:47:24.840 Right. 01:47:25.180 --> 01:47:27.220 I remember the lyrics are pretty raw. 01:47:27.400 --> 01:47:29.700 They sound really raw and actually don't sound. 01:47:29.700 --> 01:47:29.820 Yeah. 01:47:29.880 --> 01:47:30.820 It sounds like pure. 01:47:31.040 --> 01:47:31.860 Well, that's the whole thing. 01:47:31.860 --> 01:47:34.900 It sounds like pure Holocaust era immortal. 01:47:36.360 --> 01:48:04.000 Like the more raw sounding immortal. But they are definitely, I definitely hear immortal riffs in there for sure. Yeah. It just sounds like they actually know how to use their, the studio for once. Yeah. And I'm not saying it at this. Yeah. You know what I mean? I got more guitar sound on it. It's, it's, it's more aggressive. Oh yeah. Yeah. It's got operatic parts to it. It's very ambitious. I agree. I think it would be different than before. Almost impossible that this isn't on my mid-year list. 01:48:04.920 --> 01:48:34.840 I had never heard of these guys. I actually learned of them through the NPR guy, Lars... Gotrich? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Gotrich. Oh, they were on NPR? Yeah, yeah, Viking's Choice. I get his blog post every week or every two weeks. Me too. You know what's funny? He actually talked about By the Horns on an NPR episode. Did he really? And he contributed to my Kickstarter. Really? Yeah. That's awesome. That's a sidebar. Yeah, he seems to have really interesting taste, especially, and I like his taste. 01:48:34.900 --> 01:49:04.880 on metal just because he's much more has a much more eclectic taste in things than i do um npr pays attention to metal well he does he does like yeah yeah i always argued like people would be you know we have a couple local metal stations and people like do you listen to that and i was like no i mean i would argue that npr knows more about metal than our local metal stations you know it's more than liquid metal drowning pool well they get an expert to come in and talk about it they don't just talk about it off yeah he's he's in yeah he's in our area george he's here oh yeah yeah dc 01:49:05.620 --> 01:49:06.020 So, 01:49:07.320 --> 01:49:07.660 well done. 01:49:07.720 --> 01:49:07.820 Yeah, 01:49:07.920 --> 01:49:08.440 I like it. 01:49:08.740 --> 01:49:09.300 But he listens, 01:49:09.580 --> 01:49:11.320 but he listens to everything. 01:49:11.380 --> 01:49:14.720 Cause I paid attention to some of the stuff he buys, 01:49:14.820 --> 01:49:17.560 like on band camp or some of his other sites, 01:49:17.720 --> 01:49:18.820 not NPR related. 01:49:19.080 --> 01:49:20.860 And he's listens to a shit ton. 01:49:20.960 --> 01:49:22.560 He's just a music aficionado. 01:49:22.780 --> 01:49:24.360 So he follows me on band camp. 01:49:24.440 --> 01:49:27.000 I follow him and he's all over the place with it. 01:49:27.040 --> 01:49:27.140 Yeah. 01:49:27.380 --> 01:49:28.220 And he's a, 01:49:28.360 --> 01:49:28.640 he's a, 01:49:29.140 --> 01:49:30.540 I think he's a good writer as well. 01:49:30.900 --> 01:49:31.500 So I agree. 01:49:31.520 --> 01:49:31.620 Yeah. 01:49:32.860 --> 01:49:33.220 Interesting. 01:49:33.520 --> 01:49:33.680 Nice. 01:49:33.830 --> 01:49:34.840 And he's in Dubai the horn. 01:49:34.840 --> 01:49:36.420 He loves Arctic Sleep as well. 01:49:36.900 --> 01:49:36.980 Nice. 01:49:37.100 --> 01:49:38.220 Well, who doesn't love Arctic Sleep? 01:49:38.440 --> 01:49:38.660 Come on. 01:49:40.880 --> 01:49:41.020 Yeah. 01:49:41.480 --> 01:49:41.780 All right. 01:49:42.130 --> 01:49:44.720 So next up, we have a band called Sermon. 01:49:45.660 --> 01:49:47.520 And their second album of Golden Verse. 01:49:47.780 --> 01:49:48.740 They're a UK... 01:49:49.480 --> 01:49:50.300 I don't even know what to call them. 01:49:50.420 --> 01:49:51.700 Like, I go prog doom. 01:49:53.840 --> 01:49:54.880 Do you think there's doom in that? 01:49:54.960 --> 01:49:55.180 Really? 01:49:55.900 --> 01:49:58.700 Oh, well, only in that it's... 01:50:00.020 --> 01:50:01.100 So they've been compared... 01:50:01.160 --> 01:50:30.920 The only comparison that I've heard is to Catatonia. I think it's more modern Catatonia. What's that, Mark? You sound like an offspring of tool in Catatonia to me. Yeah, I mean, I like this way better than Catatonia, at least modern Catatonia. They have a lot. So everything I've seen is like, if you're a fan of like, so in modern Catatonia, later porcupine tree stuff, I think he would be a fan of this. I think that's probably fairly. 01:50:31.120 --> 01:50:34.580 I agree with that they're more rock to me they definitely have metal parts don't get me wrong 01:50:34.580 --> 01:51:01.080 that's pretty heavy oh it's fucking heavy out there's some super heavy parts yeah I mean like the drums and stuff and that's kind of what my thing was like a heavier so and yeah they're a little darker and a little more metallic than porcupine porcupine trees later material what's interesting that this follows lamp of murmur is that you know we're talking about how people think lamp of murmur kind of like follows other bands this one definitely to me sounds like 01:51:01.080 --> 01:51:31.060 bands I've heard before so I have I had a little bit of harder time getting into it because I just I just heard the influences of way more not that it's not a good album not that it's not better like George said than some of the Catatonia but I just hear that sound so much it doesn't sound unique that's interesting because for me when I heard it I was like I liked it right away I was like oh this the production is just fucking slick as hell and I was like okay but 01:51:31.080 --> 01:52:00.980 And I couldn't figure out what it reminded me of. And it wasn't until I read about it later that I made the Catatonia connection. I was like, I don't really know what this sounds like. But that's partly because I don't listen to music like this. But they don't necessarily sound like Catatonia, the way Catatonia writes songs, because Catatonia is really big on the big intro. And then they do that quiet breakdown bullshit. And I like, I've got a gazillion Catatonia albums. I've seen them a ton of times. And then they go to the big chorus and they go back. 01:52:01.100 --> 01:52:31.000 to that quiet ambient bit. This band doesn't do that. In between the chorus and their verse, like George said, there's heavy drums. That's why I said tool, because their song structures are more like tool, but they also sound like Cat Antonio. Yeah, I like the tool. That makes sense. To me, I think it's... Yeah, but they don't... But tool's got that rhythmic thing that goes on that they don't necessarily... The tribal thing, yeah. Yeah, more tribal than rhythmic. But yeah, if you're a fan of tool, you might like this band. 01:52:31.720 --> 01:53:01.040 I think so I need to spin it more like I said when I listen to it I just really heard a lot of those influences in it and that not that it detracts from it but I have to I'll have to spin it a lot more to to understand how they're more unique than some of these other things that I could get elsewhere that I think it's darker and it's it's definitely heavier and there's more aggression I think in the sound not angry aggression there's more forward sounding and now I think I feel a little bit more 01:53:01.040 --> 01:53:31.020 like what Markisan is saying like it felt very kind of like I don't know it felt like pieced together from different influence instead of it being like a like a mix of it I don't know it was like I remember like I think like the first track he he comes in the way he sings very Ackerfeld like we'll say and then like he never does it again throughout the rest of the record and I'm like because at first I'm like oh this might be something I'm into you know whatever and then like 01:53:31.020 --> 01:53:32.280 It never showed up again 01:53:32.440 --> 01:53:35.380 And then the rest of it just kind of threw me off 01:53:36.800 --> 01:53:37.700 Stuff like that 01:53:38.340 --> 01:53:39.540 If I'm picking out things 01:53:40.240 --> 01:53:41.520 This doesn't happen a lot 01:53:41.620 --> 01:53:44.760 But when I hear it, I'm like, oh, this sounds like something I know 01:53:45.420 --> 01:53:47.360 If I'm constantly picking things out 01:53:47.400 --> 01:53:49.240 Then I can't really enjoy the album as a whole 01:53:49.260 --> 01:53:51.220 That's why I think I have to keep going back to it 01:53:51.640 --> 01:53:53.140 Until I can get over that part of it 01:53:53.140 --> 01:53:55.100 And just enjoy the music for what it is 01:53:55.260 --> 01:53:57.040 But I haven't gotten to that point yet 01:53:57.160 --> 01:53:57.680 Cool 01:53:58.980 --> 01:53:59.860 I like it 01:53:59.880 --> 01:54:29.760 And that whole Catatonia thing, I think it's just for fans of Catatonia. To me, I don't necessarily hear Catatonia. No, I agree. It was more of just like the closest port in the storm of like, you know, well, you know, where can we? Maybe when Catatonia was heavier and not doomier. Yeah. His voice kind of sounds like him. So I hear that, but yeah, it's different. Anyway, our last new release is the brand spanking new Zeisma album. 01:54:29.860 --> 01:54:59.720 No Place Like Alone. This is their sixth album of like Finnish garage rock. And I didn't know this, but it's like their first album in 25 years. I mean, I knew these guys back in the day, so I didn't realize they weren't around. But I fucking dig it. I don't care what Markisan his thumb down says. And I know Stacey's a fan. I am. I'm a fan of this band and sort of all of their. 01:55:01.360 --> 01:55:06.620 And then they sound so drastically different from their first few albums. 01:55:08.180 --> 01:55:11.800 It's every album too, right? They venture out more and more. 01:55:11.980 --> 01:55:15.360 More, yeah, yeah, yeah. They get progressively more pop, almost. 01:55:16.900 --> 01:55:22.660 But I had a long talk with myself about this album when I was listening to it. 01:55:23.460 --> 01:55:28.040 And I'm like, a lot of this sounds like an 80s action movie. 01:55:28.580 --> 01:55:30.720 And then a lot of it is like, 01:55:31.820 --> 01:55:33.800 like if I didn't love this band so much, 01:55:33.800 --> 01:55:37.340 like if I didn't know them in the way that I know them, 01:55:37.640 --> 01:55:40.280 like would I pay attention to this album at all? 01:55:41.600 --> 01:55:43.080 I really liked the single. 01:55:43.250 --> 01:55:43.960 I really liked well, 01:55:44.350 --> 01:55:45.780 well seasoning a lot. 01:55:45.900 --> 01:55:46.660 I liked that. 01:55:46.900 --> 01:55:48.460 Those sort of like pretty parts. 01:55:48.470 --> 01:55:51.660 I like his rough sort of like vocals when he, 01:55:51.780 --> 01:55:54.740 he's like trying to do like clean singing and it's not, 01:55:55.240 --> 01:55:56.540 it doesn't quite get there, 01:55:56.740 --> 01:55:58.120 but I like that about it. 01:55:58.320 --> 01:56:28.040 But there's some tracks on here that really hit this sweet spot between like, ah, that's kind of like, just like your standard kind of like rock and a pop. And like, and then he brings in like those distorted vocals and it gets a little murky. Like, I, I, I think this is going to be an album that the more I listen to it, the more I appreciate it. But that said, like, I don't know if I would give it the same attention if I didn't already like them so much. Yeah. I, clearly, 01:56:28.200 --> 01:56:57.520 I haven't listened to them in a very long time because I think Lotto was the last album I picked up in like 96. Right. And I remember you asking me, hey, have you heard the singles for this yet? And I was like, no, I haven't heard that. And that was one thing. But then James from Decibel also was like, dude, have you heard this is Iismal? And I was like, all right, that's two. I'm going to have to go listen to this. And I don't know if we, I think we got the promo. 01:57:00.160 --> 01:57:27.300 And yeah, I dig it. It's definitely cool. I have a really bizarre take on this album. I don't know the band, so it's my first time listening to them. And Marcus, I'm going to play a little bit off what you just said about sometimes you hear stuff in music, whether it's you're looking for it or it just pops in your head, then you can't get it out. Which is what you're saying about Sermon. I had with this band and I'm listening and everything, George, you and Stacy, you both just said about the band I got. 01:57:27.340 --> 01:57:57.260 But then when his vocals, when he tried to get a little, I don't want to say gruffer, but a little more aggressive with his singing, I swear I heard inflections like Danzig a little bit in there. Hmm. Yeah, talk to Kano, yeah. Is Danzig where you land where you're trying to like do clean singing, but also like you came from like this like grind death metal background? Like is that where you land? No, I just, it just, it's a way he, obviously, I don't know. 01:57:57.340 --> 01:58:23.280 of English. Obviously, it's not his native language, but it just came off a little bit like that to me. I don't think he sounds like it. It's an inflection that reminded me of him. I'm not even a Danzig fan, but obviously I've heard Danzig a bazillion times. I had absolutely no reference to this band at all to the point where I think I saw their name a bunch and I thought they were like a one-man black metal project. 01:58:27.320 --> 01:58:56.820 You can understand like my confusion. I'm like, what is this? And, um, yes. So I, I, I, I have respect for being on the podcast. I like, I powered through the whole fucking thing, but it was when it was over. I'm like, thank God. I'm a host. I couldn't get through the whole thing. Justin, I didn't, I didn't either. Has anybody heard like their first albums? Has anybody like listened to like first and magical? Yeah, I've got. Okay. First, 01:58:57.360 --> 01:58:59.280 and the fourth albums, I think. 01:58:59.840 --> 01:59:01.440 It was more Grancor, was it back then? 01:59:01.920 --> 01:59:03.760 Yeah, it was just Grancor. 01:59:04.300 --> 01:59:08.640 I haven't heard any of the old stuff, and based on listening to this, I never am going to listen to it. 01:59:09.020 --> 01:59:10.640 You should. No, it's great. 01:59:12.060 --> 01:59:15.180 And they have really great song titles. 01:59:16.020 --> 01:59:16.960 Uranus Falls Again. 01:59:18.660 --> 01:59:18.780 Right? 01:59:21.340 --> 01:59:22.060 It's a planet. 01:59:22.720 --> 01:59:23.280 It's a planet. 01:59:24.060 --> 01:59:25.120 That sounds like a shitty song. 01:59:25.200 --> 01:59:26.920 It sounds like a necklace somebody might have. 01:59:26.960 --> 01:59:55.000 Onesthetic genitoplasty, right? Pathologous perversitis. Priest fomented in excrements. This sounds like a burbed rectum. This sounds like somewhere between carcass and what's that other band that's just like carcass that's not carcass? They're really good, too. General surgery. General surgery. 01:59:56.940 --> 02:00:25.500 No, I think you have to listen to their old stuff to understand the new stuff. He's not going to do it. You can see on his face, he's like, no, I will not do it. I mean, if you don't like Grind, you're not going to like it, but I think it's worth it. I like my Grind cut with something else. I need my Grind cut with something. I don't like straight up Grind. So that takes me to Pupil Slicer. Yeah. 02:00:26.940 --> 02:00:56.120 Previously, Pupil Slicer, was pretty much just straight-up grind, but I don't know if you've heard the new song. It is like grind mixed with Evanescence or something. That's kind of wild, actually. It is, and I really like it. I'm like, this is so different from what they've done and just so different from what I'm used to hearing from these types of bands. I'm like, I want to hear more. Yeah. If you mix grind with something else, it can be good. That's definitely true. 02:00:56.960 --> 02:01:03.340 So, waiting for that. All right. What are we listening to? 02:01:27.580 --> 02:01:56.020 Stacey. Ah, I'm always first. I have an order. Okay. Okay, so I have, I've been in, like, sort of heavy rotation with, like, my blanket music. I don't know if you guys have, like, blanket bands, but, like, the bands that you, or, like, the albums or the songs that you listen to when you just, like, I'm, like, really anxious. Like, there's, like, a lot going on in my life right now, and I need, like, comfort. I need to be, like, in a warm blanket, like, hugged. So, 02:01:56.940 --> 02:02:26.700 What I listen to when I am feeling like that is Omnium Gatherum. It's really embarrassing, but like. Not Insomnium? Not, no, I do not like Insomnium. And you know what, I did not like Omnium Gatherum either the first time I heard them, really, but then I saw them live and it changed everything for me. See, it happens. Like I'm a super fan now. So Omnium Gatherum and Night, I just like both of those, both of their albums, just like on repeat, like love them, love the way they make me feel. 02:02:27.760 --> 02:02:31.040 And then outside of that, the new 02:02:31.330 --> 02:02:34.500 or the last Ghoulrod is fucking spectacular. 02:02:36.860 --> 02:02:39.000 And what else have I been listening to? 02:02:40.000 --> 02:02:42.400 I think getting ready for the shows I have coming up. 02:02:42.400 --> 02:02:45.820 So I was listening to the new Enslaved a lot. 02:02:49.060 --> 02:02:49.420 What else? 02:02:50.080 --> 02:02:52.420 Oh, Fires in the Distance. 02:02:52.560 --> 02:02:52.760 Yeah. 02:02:52.760 --> 02:02:53.200 Those singles. 02:02:53.560 --> 02:02:54.140 So good. 02:02:54.460 --> 02:02:56.100 I'm so excited about the new Ghoulrod. 02:02:56.120 --> 02:03:25.640 Did I give you guys the promo? You've heard it. Not you. I haven't listened to it yet. Oh, fuck you. I know, right? You son of a bitch. I've been so busy. And, you know, my phone crashed. So I think I had it on there and I had to reload it and I didn't do it. So I need to do that tomorrow. Oh, man. I am so looking forward to their album. And then Soul Mass is really good. That last one. I guess it's kind of old now. 02:03:25.720 --> 02:03:54.240 That was like mid-March, I think that came out. So old. Well, compared to like how you guys listen to things. And there was one other that's been, oh, you know, I've been getting that like Megaton sword in my head that I'll have to like go back and like I need to listen to this song because I can't stop. Somewhere Jay is high-fiving you. Yeah. Jay, yeah. 02:03:54.810 --> 02:03:54.920 Yeah. 02:03:55.660 --> 02:04:24.880 Well, Jay said it's going to take a spectacular record to dethrone Megaton Sword from his number one spot. Which I honestly don't get. I mean, I like them. Don't get me wrong. I'm not hating on them. But it's not number one. It's just not. Everybody's different. Think about the number ones you've put up. Yes, but mine are awesome. I'm just saying that it's, I don't know. 02:04:24.940 --> 02:04:54.880 I don't know. I mean, I get it. You like what you like. And I know the kind of stuff that Jay likes. I'm not trying to diss him. You like the Zy's my record, so I don't know if you give me credit. I do. Hey. But it's... He loves it. That's his thing. It's like, yeah, this would be the great number one album from 1988. But it just isn't new enough sounding. I mean, it's not... I don't know. It's not doing anything new for me. What have you done for me lately? 02:04:54.920 --> 02:05:24.900 But you're not Jay, though. Exactly. And I'm not trying to... I just don't get it. That's all. It's got some hooks. Oh, I agree. It's a great album. I'm not saying it's not a great album. I'm just saying it's not a number one album. So, anyway. Okay. Yeah, that was me. All right, Justin, what are you listening to? All right. Let's see. Well, my warm blanket band for all the shit I've been going through the past couple months, I listened to their... 02:05:25.360 --> 02:05:54.600 That's my warm blanket band. Even though I know all you motherfuckers have shit all over them. I love that. Dude, I love Red. I think Red's awesome. Early stuff's good. I know. Did you? The Red album, I should say. Let me tell you, the new stuff is just as fucking good and I don't understand why people aren't into it. The fucking guitarist, Gina Gleason, that they have now. He is amazing. I am obsessed with her. She is fantastic. She's one of those people. She just can talk with her guitar. 02:05:54.920 --> 02:06:24.900 like really fucking well. Stacey loves her. You know, I do. I do. Did you see them? Did you catch them when they were on the like, yes, I went, I saw them at St. Vitus and it was the set list tour and it was probably one of my top five live shows I've ever been to. It was so fucking good. Transformative. Like it was like, yeah, I, they came through twice for a set list show and it was like 70 bucks and I paid 70 bucks full time to go fucking see that show. It was like, I think 02:06:24.940 --> 02:06:26.460 it's what people feel when they go to church. 02:06:27.000 --> 02:06:28.300 That's what that was like. 02:06:28.740 --> 02:06:31.720 It was like, okay, I'm sorry, I interrupted. 02:06:32.060 --> 02:06:33.880 All right, now we can totally geek out. 02:06:34.160 --> 02:06:36.320 I know I have someone to geek out to Baroness to. 02:06:36.360 --> 02:06:37.200 Oh, yes, anytime. 02:06:38.140 --> 02:06:42.580 Because all these motherfuckers left before they went on at that one decimal. 02:06:42.620 --> 02:06:43.220 I did not. 02:06:43.520 --> 02:06:45.680 I watched the first two songs before I left. 02:06:45.780 --> 02:06:46.700 I've seen two songs. 02:06:48.160 --> 02:06:48.740 Oh, my God. 02:06:48.900 --> 02:06:50.680 I've seen them live so many times. 02:06:50.860 --> 02:06:52.780 I saw them on so many tours. 02:06:52.880 --> 02:07:22.440 I think I saw five or six shows when they opened for Opeth. So this is going back when they first started. So right. You know, I say, you know, give the latest one a shake. There's a lot of filler in it, which I don't really love on that one. But the songs that are there are so fucking good. I like most of their stuff, honestly. Yeah. Anyways. All right. I'll move on from my love of fairness. But I love fucking love. What else you got? Or is that it? All right. So. 02:07:22.880 --> 02:07:51.740 No, of course it's not. Come on. I know. So let me see. I'm really into that Command Death Age record. It just came out. If you like Bolt Thrower, you will like them. I feel like we'll get into that conversation about the top five. Right. There's a lot of bands that are obviously pulling from different areas of classic death metal and integrating it into their music. 02:07:52.900 --> 02:08:00.000 a pretty good job because they're they're focusing more on the riffs if you like like to me i want 02:08:01.100 --> 02:08:06.620 like i kind of want frozen soul to take like notes from them because that's how i feel like frozen 02:08:06.810 --> 02:08:15.060 soul like that crypt device song is a fucking amazing song right but i feel like that record like i just 02:08:15.200 --> 02:08:20.360 feel like i got crypt device over and over again in my head that's why i want to see them live i'm hoping to 02:08:21.540 --> 02:08:49.560 I feel like Command is really good. That Astropharis record, Pulsations of the Black Orb. That's a pretty good record. That sounds dirty. Yeah, it's got a lot of cool mixing of there's some Chasm in there, there's some Orbit in there, there's a whole bunch of, they get a little Doomy, it's cool. It's an interesting record. Close to Recon. 02:08:50.380 --> 02:09:20.340 Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Um, that Necropanther record is really good. I have that kind of unlocked that I'm still working on. I have, uh, um, the Hyperdauntia record I'm digging, but I want to listen to it a couple more times. Um, Catacomb kind of a death doom. Um, kind of interesting. Again, I got to see where that goes. Um, I'm still working on the contrary, the newest contrarian record. Um, kind of 02:09:20.360 --> 02:09:22.860 of not feeling it. 02:09:23.700 --> 02:09:26.060 And I feel like I'm in the minority with that. 02:09:26.880 --> 02:09:27.260 Um, 02:09:27.520 --> 02:09:28.100 but I'm not, 02:09:28.520 --> 02:09:31.700 I feel like it is work for their albums. 02:09:32.020 --> 02:09:33.600 I love their last two records. 02:09:33.880 --> 02:09:34.840 I was really into them, 02:09:35.080 --> 02:09:36.600 but I don't know this one. 02:09:37.360 --> 02:09:37.760 It's like, 02:09:37.920 --> 02:09:40.640 they're contrary trying too hard. 02:09:40.640 --> 02:09:41.180 I don't know. 02:09:41.360 --> 02:09:41.640 And like, 02:09:41.640 --> 02:09:44.240 I just don't like the production choices they're making. 02:09:44.660 --> 02:09:45.440 And I don't know. 02:09:46.440 --> 02:09:46.660 I'm not, 02:09:46.800 --> 02:09:47.940 I'm going to give a little bit more, 02:09:48.080 --> 02:09:48.260 but, 02:09:48.380 --> 02:09:48.540 um, 02:09:49.040 --> 02:09:49.940 the old father one, 02:09:50.000 --> 02:10:19.960 we talked about and the new raider that just came out yesterday i'm really digging that it's like you know i feel like it's like better it's a little bit more extremer if you like children of bodum like you're a bodum fan i feel like you can get into them um and yeah i think that's the only thing i needed to the only stuff i wanted to pimp out let me see if there was anything else that i'm like why aren't fucking people listening to this right now um i'm still listening to that hacks 02:10:20.720 --> 02:10:49.060 I'm really loving that. John, did you ever go back to that? A couple times, yeah. Yeah, I'm digging it. I really am. Omniss Scriptures, really good death metal band, kind of straight up death metal, but very good. And yeah, that's all Pim for now. I think everyone else has talked about other stuff. Nothingness is still probably my most listened to death metal band right now. I really love that record. All right. Mark Saan. 02:10:50.000 --> 02:10:54.880 Oh, yes. Um, Alcyon, cult of Kukulkin. 02:10:57.160 --> 02:10:59.980 Just last episode, Carl was on here. 02:11:01.420 --> 02:11:04.540 That's pimpin' this album that was going to be so great, and they were shopping. 02:11:06.120 --> 02:11:07.360 And then what do we see? 02:11:07.440 --> 02:11:19.100 And then I sent it to everybody here on the cast, and I was chatting with Carl a bunch on Facebook Instant Messenger, and we actually talked about potential labels for the band. 02:11:19.120 --> 02:11:49.060 So it was even deeper than that. And I sent him maybe 15 labels. Cause I keep a list cause you know, we have our lists every year. So I actually keep a label, a label list so I can go and check to see what new releases are coming out. Um, so we talked about what might be a good fit for that band and, uh, no one that was recently. And then like a couple of days later, they broke up announced they were done due to personal differences. Did you find out from him what that was? I don't know what it is. We sort of talked, 02:11:49.120 --> 02:12:18.180 but I don't think he really wants to talk about it. Well, that's a bummer because that stuff's pretty cool. Yeah, no, it's a shame because I think it's a tremendous record. I think it has a good shot of making my mid-year list. It's black and progressive metal, but it has a tech heart to it, I think. And Carl is like, his vocals are amazing on it. I've never heard anything quite like what he does. No, it's hard to classify that band, but it works. It's cohesive. Yeah. 02:12:18.320 --> 02:12:45.220 They have posted the album. You can get it on Bandcamp, YouTube, anywhere. And I think it's just pay whatever you want. And it's just a shame. Even the artwork's good. So yeah, I really like that album. And yeah, especially talking to Carl and kind of getting to know him a little bit. And he seemed so excited about it. And then we broke up the band. Two days later, just wind out of the sails. That's terrible. So that's the first thing. 02:12:48.940 --> 02:13:17.620 This one's a surprise for me. I haven't really gone a day without spending this record. And I got it from one of our listeners. So if you're listening, Hardy Schwamm, you posted it on our New Music Friday thread. I had not heard it, which is crazy because I post a lot of stuff on New Music Friday. But you always miss something. Marcason is the new George. I do. I post a lot of shit. So it's dark, atmospheric black metal with this eerie, 02:13:20.640 --> 02:13:48.260 It evokes an emotional response in me, which does not happen that much. And I didn't expect that. So I love the song arrangements on it. It's just, it's gorgeous. Mesmerizing the records mesmerizing to me and you know, it's good when it unseated it unseated in slave, which I thought was a shoe in I and I was going back and forth. But the thing with it with this record is I just, I had it on repeat. I couldn't stop listening to it. 02:13:49.160 --> 02:14:18.100 And I love Enslaved, but this is the record I just spun the most. So that's why it had to be my album of the month. I was eating when Stacy was talking or else I would have commented on this. Fires in the Distance, Air Not Meant for Us on Prosthetic Records. I've listened to this album like 15 times. We got the promo for this. It's about a month before it comes out. It comes out April 28th. I really liked their first album, which was like just a couple years ago, but this one's better. 02:14:18.300 --> 02:14:47.060 It's got the raspy death vocals, soaring guitars, that big brooding mellow death riffage that they do with gothy keyboards. So it's like the first album, but I think they just go a little bit bigger. I think they're just better at song craft. It kind of gives me this weird like enchanted feel. I almost feel like I'm in the middle of a movie legend sometimes when I'm listening to this thing. You're not Tom Cruise, are you? 02:14:48.040 --> 02:15:16.840 Yeah, I am. I would like to wear a metal skirt sometimes in the juggles. But yeah, I love this Fires in the Distance record. Another one that I think has a really good shot of being on the mid-year list. I don't think the first record made any of my list, but I did quite like that one. And I know the boys in Brimminghorn really dig this band. Yep, and Looch. Yes, it's very good. Hellish Form, Deathless, it's an independent release. 02:15:17.060 --> 02:15:47.040 they play this devastating funeral doom harrowing and uplifting at the same time I say. Oh wait you said death doom sorry I was thinking funeral doom I was like how can funeral doom be uplifting? No no it is funeral doom I did say funeral doom. You did. Damn it I can't hear I'm old leave me alone stop talking. Okay I was right then yeah how can funeral doom be uplifting? I don't know listen to the record you'll see I don't know it's weird it's definitely funeral doom but they have these uplifting passages 02:15:47.120 --> 02:16:15.860 to it is really strange. But it works for this band. And actually, when I was adding albums to my list for this cast, I also noticed that the Bandcamp page mentioned that the album is meant as a judgment of the purveyors of systemic transphobia and a bomb to those suffering beneath its hold. Wow. So a little anti-kid rock here, which I didn't know because I liked their last song. 02:16:15.920 --> 02:16:45.820 I think their last song was like number 25 on my list or something. So that made me like the album even more. So next time, um, next time I listen to what I'm interested in reading the lyrics, cause I'm, I think that they, they talk about that in the lyrics. So when I spit it out, I'll, I'll read those. But, uh, I thought that was pretty cool, especially since we had the, the kid rock. Yeah. Bullshit thing. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, lurk ages on transcending obscurity records. Um, chilling sludge doom. Um, there's a, 02:16:45.900 --> 02:17:14.840 a good bit of death thrown into this one too. I spun their last record a ton. So I was really looking forward to this one and it did deliver, but I just don't, I'm not sure they raised the bar from the last record. It was called. Yeah. I listened to it too. I kind of feel the same way. Yeah. Which it was a, that last record was really good. Yeah. It just seems like it, maybe it's on the same level as that one. I have to, I'll have to spin it a little bit more to see how I feel. Yeah. Yeah. 02:17:15.900 --> 02:17:45.860 Yeah, it's like, what's the Megaton Sword? Jay said this. When we first were talking about Megaton Sword, Jay was like, I don't know if it's as good as the last one. And then later he came back and he's like, I think it's just as good, if not better than the last one, just because he spun it more. And I kind of feel like maybe that could happen with Lurk. I don't know. And then the last one I have on my list is a band called Rye and the album's called In. That's the English translation because it's in, 02:17:47.461 --> 02:18:15.860 It's on Reflection Nebula Records. This is another band that I had on my list a couple years ago with their last record. And this one is mellow, ritualistic black metal. Just bleeds this kind of like dark, lonely atmosphere to it. It's kind of a departure from the last record in that it emphasizes the ambiance over the riffs. But I really like the arrangements on it. I like the slow churn of it. I like that they did some 02:18:15.920 --> 02:18:45.860 something different from the last one which I really enjoyed. So this one when I first heard it I wasn't sure about it and I've come back to it recently because I think it came out maybe January and I was like I don't know about this maybe I'm in the mood and then I came back this month and I was like okay now I understand it. So enjoying that. Awesome. All right then Mate. Sweet sweet sweet. So I just finished Only the 02:18:46.699 --> 02:19:15.179 The Tom G Warrior book with some commentary by Eric Martinane. So like we probably all do with books we read about music and musicians, I kind of made a playlist that followed along the things he talked about. And this book really goes through to Megatheron, i.e. Celtic Frost. So a lot of Angel Witch, Venom, really Hellhammer, Celtic Frost, obviously. As far as newer stuff, really digging. 02:19:15.900 --> 02:19:22.920 by Cruelty, as well as Vortex of Disgust by Bastard Grave from a Dirty, Dirty Death camp. 02:19:23.300 --> 02:19:24.400 Yeah, that's a good one. 02:19:24.920 --> 02:19:25.139 Yeah. 02:19:26.130 --> 02:19:31.599 Also, Diggling the new Alcyone, Dirge, self-titled, really, really good. 02:19:33.500 --> 02:19:39.059 Also, the new Go Rod, really, really, really enjoying that one. 02:19:41.660 --> 02:19:42.160 What else? 02:19:42.639 --> 02:19:45.040 Also, Old Throne is the band. 02:19:45.219 --> 02:20:14.400 The Albums Called In The Land Of Ghosts, as well as the band Blaze Of Sorrow, and the album is called Voltus Fati. Both those albums are good. They're a little more complex. Problem is, I'm just always looking for Wayfinder. I won't like any band like that to be Wayfinder. They're not quite there. And then I kind of made a playlist of anybody who's doing like a full album set of decibels, so like an Incantation, Suicidal, Gorguts, I Hate God. 02:20:15.220 --> 02:20:45.180 I feel like I'm missing one but kind of been spinning that I've been meaning to do that and I haven't I'm woefully behind on my prep it's all right you have time no I got like four days I am woefully behind you have plenty of time so that's it for me all right John all right metalheads broadcast here we go yeah so uh broadcast I like that yeah I use that at the year end also last time 02:20:48.420 --> 02:21:14.640 Yeah, I think I said it at pick 23. So it's possible we are all feeling pretty good at that point. That's right, we were. So my first one, Nea Oblivisgaris, their new album, Exul, is a band I never was able to get into because I had a lot of listening fatigue with them because it's just constant blast beats. But I keep hearing from some of my friends to listen to them. So this album seemed to click with me. So I've been kind of digging through their stuff. 02:21:15.220 --> 02:21:45.180 I don't know them. Australian. What? They used to be black and progressive death, but now it's a little less on the black inside. It's cool. I like it. I like that one too, John. Yeah. And this one seemed to grab me a little more than the other ones, but I'm finding I'm liking the other ones a little more now. They're the big thing is they use a lot of violins. And I read, you know, those awesome critics online saying it's a gimmick that I'm like, wow, really? So Rosa uses violins or they did. It's cool. Get over it. So to Kansas and Kansas is 02:21:45.200 --> 02:21:45.340 Cool. 02:21:45.960 --> 02:21:46.940 Who said that angry? 02:21:47.170 --> 02:21:48.400 Carry on my wayward son. 02:21:48.820 --> 02:21:49.200 Thank you. 02:21:49.440 --> 02:21:51.060 No, just jackass people online. 02:21:51.100 --> 02:21:51.540 That's dumb. 02:21:51.920 --> 02:21:52.000 Yeah. 02:21:52.080 --> 02:21:52.640 It's just dumb. 02:21:52.680 --> 02:21:53.280 That's a good record. 02:21:53.620 --> 02:21:54.180 I think so too. 02:21:54.930 --> 02:21:59.140 A band called Scorched Moon, which is a cool name for a band. 02:21:59.640 --> 02:22:01.560 And the album called Obsidia. 02:22:01.870 --> 02:22:04.840 It's a debut album from a prog metal band from Georgia. 02:22:07.860 --> 02:22:12.480 I don't even know how to describe their sound, but it's kind of a modern prog metal sound, 02:22:12.660 --> 02:22:42.620 but they have a lot of 90s influences early mid 90s melodic progressive metal there's some 70 cool 70s prog keyboards in it you know they they throw a little jazz fusion just in tiny spots here and i think it's cool i dig it uh we mentioned sermon ready i actually do like that album a lot um i do hear all the influences we talked about but i think there's something a little different about it from there um if you got an opus itch from like the blackwater park delivered 02:22:43.240 --> 02:22:45.640 period. A little bit. 02:22:46.330 --> 02:22:47.040 Okay, maybe a little. 02:22:47.660 --> 02:22:48.180 It's a little. 02:22:49.840 --> 02:22:50.860 I got a big itch. 02:22:52.400 --> 02:22:53.520 Band called Stormhaven. 02:22:54.360 --> 02:22:56.600 Album is called Blindsight, and they're from France. 02:22:58.020 --> 02:22:58.980 We've heard about them before. 02:22:59.700 --> 02:23:02.920 Yeah, I think they made my year-end for their last album. 02:23:03.040 --> 02:23:03.280 Yeah. 02:23:04.120 --> 02:23:05.040 It's good stuff. 02:23:05.200 --> 02:23:06.160 I mean, it caught me by surprise. 02:23:06.290 --> 02:23:10.500 I mean, I like them, but this one really caught me nice in the right sweet spot. 02:23:11.280 --> 02:23:41.220 Yeah, they got that Opethian sound in them, but they got their own thing going too. But there's parts of it that remind me of that period, which is kind of cool without sounding derivative, which is, you know, at this point, most bands sound like somebody else somewhere down the line. There's very few that actually stand out on their own where you can say, fuck, that's completely different. There's not many anymore. But that one really caught me and I just got it. I think, was it yesterday? It came out. So I've listened to it like four or five times since then, which I don't know when I have time. 02:23:41.260 --> 02:23:42.440 to listen to music that much. 02:23:43.190 --> 02:23:43.340 So, 02:23:43.940 --> 02:23:47.720 and then the last one is a band that was mentioned. 02:23:47.910 --> 02:23:50.040 Their first album came out fast Cassiones, 02:23:50.440 --> 02:23:51.180 which is two dudes. 02:23:51.370 --> 02:23:52.460 Their names are from Greece. 02:23:53.070 --> 02:23:54.960 That was called cynical silence. 02:23:55.110 --> 02:24:00.700 They are a band that kind of harkens back to the early nineties, 02:24:00.880 --> 02:24:02.720 fates warning Queens rag, 02:24:02.860 --> 02:24:03.940 early dream theater sound, 02:24:04.590 --> 02:24:06.340 but more on the fates warning side, 02:24:06.840 --> 02:24:10.860 which I don't think anyone's really had the courage to kind of, 02:24:10.980 --> 02:24:40.360 If you're a Fate's Warning fan, has the courage to kind of mimic that sound. No one I don't think has. And they actually do it, and it sounds really good. So that's all I got. I know we've talked about all the stuff we've listened to. I've been listening to a shit ton of Bowie, if you want to know what else I've been listening to. Yeah. How come, John? What? Because Bowie. Oh, Bowie's one of my five favorite artists of all time. I didn't know if there was a specific reason you were listening to this all time. 02:24:40.980 --> 02:25:10.920 Yeah, I got the Width of a Circle box or two CD thing that came out, which was part of the Man Who Sold the World period, which they re-released the album under the original name, original cover, and it was remixed and remastered again, and it sounds fucking incredible. It's actually, some of the songs are proto-metal on there. If you don't know the album, if you're not a Bowie fan, the big song off that is Man Who Sold the World. Love that song. Yeah. And the best song on the album, but it's a huge Bowie song, so. 02:25:11.000 --> 02:25:40.880 I love the Nirvana cover of that too. Yeah. Yeah. The only good thing about that cover is that it made Bowie play it again live. Nice. Because he had not played it for a long time and then once they played it he was like all right let me show you how this is supposed to be played. Even though their version is very good. It is. All right so have I mentioned I am woefully unprepared. I am still woefully unprepared. I mostly work so I don't get to listen to stuff. I'm on calls all fucking day. 02:25:41.180 --> 02:26:10.960 So I listened to the stuff that were our new releases. And other than that, I don't have a whole lot. I listened to the first two Lynyrd Skynyrd albums. Because when I'm not working. Yeah, Jerry Rossley. Yeah, he did. But that's not why. We watch, Barb and I watch like American Idol and The Voice and stuff like that. And there was this dude on American Idol that did a, for his 02:26:11.080 --> 02:26:12.500 He did Simple Man. 02:26:14.479 --> 02:26:16.960 Which is like probably my favorite 02:26:17.200 --> 02:26:18.520 Skynyrd song of the first album. 02:26:18.660 --> 02:26:19.440 Yeah, it's a good one. 02:26:19.600 --> 02:26:20.380 It's a good tune. 02:26:20.770 --> 02:26:23.440 And he did it really well. 02:26:23.490 --> 02:26:25.500 And I was like, oh my God, I got to listen to some Skynyrd. 02:26:25.640 --> 02:26:28.060 So I picked up the first two albums on 02:26:29.680 --> 02:26:31.060 Cobuzz, I think that's called. 02:26:31.840 --> 02:26:32.920 George, you'd love it. 02:26:33.180 --> 02:26:33.560 You'd love it. 02:26:33.560 --> 02:26:34.960 You know who covered that song? 02:26:35.280 --> 02:26:35.380 Who? 02:26:36.100 --> 02:26:36.460 Deftones. 02:26:37.880 --> 02:26:38.180 Really? 02:26:39.659 --> 02:26:40.360 Is it good? 02:26:40.400 --> 02:27:10.360 Their version? I like Deftones. It's the Deftones. Clearly it's not good. Anything Deftones does is awesome. Just because his voice is so unique, that would be kind of interesting to hear that. I mean, I would like to hear that. But, Deftones. But, it was so good, I was like, I need to go listen to me some Skinner because I, you know. So, it's an intended deep dive. I got the first two albums on like 24, 192, high red, 02:27:12.159 --> 02:27:40.380 Those albums already sounded pretty good. Yeah. It sounds really good now. Yeah. So yeah, I'll probably get at least through the first three, four or five albums until the plane crash. Unfortunately, yeah, those are the best ones. Yeah. And I'm also always in the mood for Tom Waits. And I listened to Heart of Saturday Night the other day. So Tom Waits is probably 02:27:40.400 --> 02:27:58.920 One of my favorite artists of all time. You cannot not love Tom Waits. If you do, wait, if you don't, I don't, you know what I mean? If you don't like Tom Waits, then fuck off. That's fully to me, man. Exactly. So, all right. Let us do our top five. 02:28:10.500 --> 02:28:39.580 We made a list, we all made lists. We made a list, man, we all made a list. We made a list, man, we all made a list. And we're gonna tell you all about it right now. Which was picked by Justin? Would you care to explain this? Explain yourself. Okay, yeah, so it was just a simple thought I had. It was coming on here, and I think I was shower thinking at the time. 02:28:39.640 --> 02:28:41.440 I'm like I don't get this script from George yet 02:28:41.770 --> 02:28:43.560 and I'm like I wonder what the top five's gonna be 02:28:43.640 --> 02:28:45.700 I'm like what would my top fives be 02:28:45.920 --> 02:28:46.960 so it was 02:28:49.719 --> 02:28:51.680 it was top five I was touching 02:28:52.460 --> 02:28:53.680 myself I was watching 02:28:53.680 --> 02:28:54.340 my nethery 02:28:54.360 --> 02:28:55.380 I'm glad you were thinking of me 02:28:55.800 --> 02:28:56.240 George 02:28:57.479 --> 02:28:58.520 I got that song 02:29:01.580 --> 02:29:02.740 so I was either 02:29:03.300 --> 02:29:05.400 yeah so the two ones I came up with was 02:29:05.840 --> 02:29:07.040 top five Morbid Angel songs 02:29:07.040 --> 02:29:12.440 I guess unfortunately I was listening to Morbid Angel 02:29:12.520 --> 02:29:18.340 because it jarred their attention I guess with what happened 02:29:19.440 --> 02:29:25.320 and then the other one was top five post-2015 bands 02:29:25.620 --> 02:29:28.520 because I think if you're looking at 02:29:28.640 --> 02:29:31.600 you could even look at the Decibel Bill 02:29:31.920 --> 02:29:36.021 about how there's been this wave of resurgence of popularity 02:29:36.060 --> 02:30:04.920 and death metal bands. And I feel like right around 2015 is when you could really see, like, yeah, there were bands that kind of pushed it to get to that point. Like, I would reference, like, Dead Congregation, like, bands like that, you know, that kind of were molding things together that had been done but doing it in a fresher way that people were paying attention to. And I feel like that's kind of when everyone started paying attention. 02:30:05.720 --> 02:30:35.120 to that. And there were a lot of bands were putting stuff out and being super popular and people who weren't just into death metal, like knew who they were, which I feel like there was definitely a period of time where that wasn't the case really in the scene. Um, where like, if you weren't really into death metal, you may not know all the bands, you know, in that late nineties, early two thousands era of death metal. Right. But these new bands are coming up cause they're, they're kind of, um, 02:30:35.560 --> 02:31:05.380 They're pulling from different areas of this well-established scene now. And like I said, the, I, so I started getting a little bit, like I broke it down a little bit too complicated for myself. I'm sure everyone else probably isn't going to be as detail oriented as I am with this, but like, so I kind of broke it down by regions. Right. So like my picks are all like, I guess I could say are from different regions. And that scene in that region, 02:31:05.580 --> 02:31:35.380 and who I think is kind of doing it the best. Representing that type of sound, right? Where I feel like it feels like they're taking, they're keeping death metal where it needs to be and they're kind of sprinkling in other genres into it and kind of refreshing it and not sounding, what's the word? John just used it before and it was the word I was looking for. 02:31:35.560 --> 02:31:42.000 Derivative. Derivative. There you go. You can hear influences, but it doesn't sound 02:31:42.160 --> 02:31:47.060 derivative to me. So, all right. So, I guess, should I start my 02:31:48.200 --> 02:31:53.140 five now? Actually, we need to start with Stacy. Stacy, all right. Okay. 02:31:53.620 --> 02:31:58.520 I wasn't sure because of the protocol because I was explaining things. True, but yeah. 02:31:58.960 --> 02:32:02.240 No. We have to go in Georgia's special order. Otherwise, 02:32:02.940 --> 02:32:32.740 Otherwise, things go over. The universe collapses. Exactly. Yeah, I, so I don't have, I think, a lot of the same context that you all will have in terms of, like, whether or not a band is derivative. Because when I was first getting into metal, like, like, you know, mid to late 90s, death metal wasn't part of, like, what I was really listening to. And then I took a long hiatus from metal. And then coming back to it, like, I think I missed a lot of, like, those, those bands. 02:32:32.940 --> 02:32:38.740 those like seminal like sort of core bands but anyway and then i had a tough time sort of like 02:32:39.840 --> 02:32:46.200 thinking about like well is this death metal because i feel like the genre all genres like it's 02:32:46.260 --> 02:32:53.660 getting really fluid right um where the you know the the boundaries of what makes something death 02:32:53.720 --> 02:32:59.121 metal or black metal or whatever like it's those lines are getting grayer right and which i love 02:32:59.600 --> 02:33:28.040 So I didn't know how pure I needed to get with this. And then I had to go and be like, well, so when did they, when would this, when did their first album come out? Or does an EP count or demo count like for this? Cause there's some bands that like just sort of missed this, like Gatecreeper, right? Or like, oh God, how much I would love to talk about Slugge. Oh yeah. But so I think, and then. Gatecreeper made it though. Gatecreeper made it. They're 2014, their first release. Failed, Justin. 02:33:29.220 --> 02:33:34.380 I'm recording the band camp anyway so I think and that's like I had to go 02:33:35.060 --> 02:33:40.180 redo my whole list yeah just as like fuck it it's my list it's my list I'm putting it on there 02:33:41.219 --> 02:33:47.080 so yeah I don't know but um and then like I can't go like it this is all like personal taste too 02:33:47.200 --> 02:33:51.980 right and like best death metal band that's like a big thing to live up to and I think I came in 02:33:52.500 --> 02:33:57.341 like I dialed into this call just as you guys were talking about like well how established does 02:33:58.580 --> 02:34:25.100 This is one of the best male bands. They only have a release or two. Can you really say that? I just kind of threw everything out the window. This is just what I like right now. We all thought this same stuff. I bet. Yeah. I guess I would go with 200. Okay. They're sick live. They are. 02:34:27.340 --> 02:34:28.340 Justin, you're number five. 02:34:30.440 --> 02:34:30.800 Okay. 02:34:31.310 --> 02:34:50.060 So, again, to kind of make some more clarifications on how I went about it is, yeah, I excluded, I guess I think we were talking about it before we started recording, but yeah, I excluded things like Death Doom and, like, Tech Death and, like, the product of your death metal stuff. 02:34:50.560 --> 02:34:50.940 Purist. 02:34:50.980 --> 02:35:20.780 And I kind of try to keep it more in a purist mindset, I guess, just because I think I was just trying to make things more difficult for myself. I don't know. Yeah. Don't we all. So my number five is what I'm considering like the new school of like Gore Guts inspired death metal, where it has some avant-garde type of feels to it. And there's some dissonance in it, you know, you can, you know, that a lot of bands kind of pulled from. So my number five is Replicant. 02:35:22.181 --> 02:35:50.500 They're out of New Jersey. They're part of that, like, you know, Hath and Windfarer, that band. It's like a lot of those same members. And I just feel like it's a really good job of giving you that, the spices that you liked from like those Gore Guts records that like you reacted to. And they're able to kind of pepper that type of feel into their shit. But where it doesn't sound derivative to me, there's like a good, 02:35:50.540 --> 02:36:20.520 They have a very good group to them, and they're making a lot of cool sounds. I think you could look at other bands like Discord, who I love, and Devoid of Thought. I think they're European, though. But they kind of have that same adopted overall vibe where it doesn't get into super-duper dissidents, but it gets into it enough where you get those spices from the Gore Guts school of 02:36:21.140 --> 02:36:50.480 sound in death metal. So I just think they're doing it the best right now. So yeah, Replicant's my number five. Yeah. Markisan. Yeah. So, well, the conditions I did is that I decided I was just going to go with full length LPs. So if they had any EPs or whatever before. Yeah, that's actually what I did too. Yeah. I didn't count it because there were so many bands that I liked that put out EPs and I just don't really listen to EPs that much. So to me, a band truly arrives when they stop dead. 02:36:50.560 --> 02:37:20.300 They dig in and they fucking drop that first long player. Stop thinking about. Yeah. So that's what I went with. I just went, all right, what's the first LP? If it's 2015 and later, then it qualifies for me. All right. And I didn't do pure death metal. As you'll see, that's my first band. I love this band. I know John does too. And it's cryptic shift, inventive interstellar death metal. Visitations from Enceladus was like in my top 25. 02:37:20.560 --> 02:37:50.060 I think like 21 or something like that. 2020 list. And so over the last couple of years, I've been spinning it more and more, which, you know, it's tough for us because we get a lot of albums every year and I'm constantly listening to new stuff. But when something sticks with you and you can keep revisiting, that's how you know you're really going to like it, that you really, you know, it's something that's timeless, something you're going to keep coming back to. So I wasn't sure that Cryptic Shift would make the cut because they only have that one album. 02:37:50.120 --> 02:38:20.020 and an EP in this time period that we're covering in the top five. And as we know, you say, fuck EPs. Right. And he's fucking good. It's really good. I'm not saying fuck EPs. I'm saying I like EPs. I don't tend to go back to EPs a lot. I'm going to go. I don't know. That's all I'm saying. I like EPs. Don't get me wrong. But Enceladus is just so good that they have that X factor. This band has that X factor that makes me feel like they have this promise. 02:38:20.120 --> 02:38:50.100 that they'll do even better things than that last record. And it was, you know, that's a high, high mark for me. So that's good enough for me for this band to take the fifth spot. And I'm really excited to hear the new material that they're going to be putting out. Awesome. Matty. Yeah, I had considered, I had considered Cryptic Shift at one point, but again, I felt like it was like their, their cake was a little bit like sectioned off into other genres. Whereas I feel like I was going to be a little bit more 02:38:50.140 --> 02:38:54.240 was trying to keep it like the base was death metal whereas i feel like cryptic shift like 02:38:54.340 --> 02:39:00.060 there's just as much thrash and progression in there too like mixed in you know i think their base is still death 02:39:00.140 --> 02:39:05.880 metal but i know what you're saying they're pretty technical thrash though too yeah i take some liberties 02:39:06.140 --> 02:39:12.602 with my list i mean it's like stacy was saying you know things cross over there's like a lot of 02:39:12.620 --> 02:39:42.280 It's a good pick. All right, Matt. So per usual, I did not have a lot of restraints other than five bands I could think of that were 2015 and the latter. I spent probably a good hour of letdowns thinking like, oh, oh, oh, oh, and then looking it up on metal archives going, shit. Yeah. Which made me realize that I need to listen to more modern death metal. So I'm going to say my pick and then Justin, I definitely want your commentary on it as this is your list. 02:39:42.380 --> 02:40:11.800 And I really dig kind of the links you've gone to to kind of classify and maybe over classify your picks. And I mean that in a good way, obviously. Yeah. So this band was actually number nine, excuse me, from last year. I would put them in my deity, deity, death category. That is Mortuous. Yeah, I was looking at them. Yeah. Yeah, I would, they fall into the death doom for me. So I kept that. Listen, I fucking love death doom. Fucking. 02:40:12.400 --> 02:40:38.580 Like, obviously, I have the same putty as you. Like, I love Death Doom. But I limited myself with it, you know. What he's trying to say is, Matt, you're wrong. You're wrong, Matt. Well, I'm used to hearing that. I take it, you know, as positive feedback. Excellent. Thank you, Seth. No, they're all going to be sick bands. Yeah, yeah. John. 02:40:42.380 --> 02:41:12.360 I got what Justin and asked him. I said, now is this when the band started 2015 or the first official release EP or album? Because in going back and looking at some of these start dates, there's not a lot of consistency on when bands started, nor is there any in some spots an actual date when a band did start. And he fortunately said, yeah, I'm going with when the first official release came out. So that's what I did too. But unlike Marcus, I did include 02:41:12.380 --> 02:41:39.800 piece because some bands did have some good 25 minute EPs that were worthy official releases. So that brought one band back into it for me. But like you guys, I just went with my favorite bands. I didn't try to go anything other than the fact that I wanted it to be more traditional death metal. Because if we're going to go into the progressive death metal, then this becomes a shit show for me. I'm not going to do that. And I didn't want to do tech death either. 02:41:39.940 --> 02:42:09.920 because to me it's wild death metal it's still a whole different world i did look up arch spire oh yeah i was like oh no fire didn't make it like 2009 or something right they're old yeah so i went with my favorite and it didn't matter how many releases they had if it was if it's a band i think is a favorite then i went with it so and i don't even know these are my favorites they for the most part are uh since 2015 uh this first one i'll get to it real quick i feel like this needs to be mentioned 02:42:09.920 --> 02:42:11.960 because of someone in the band. 02:42:13.440 --> 02:42:18.200 And I feel like mentioning this person has become like our contractual mentions, 02:42:18.520 --> 02:42:19.380 like underwater auto, 02:42:19.500 --> 02:42:20.100 Scott Travis, 02:42:20.300 --> 02:42:20.960 the black album. 02:42:21.520 --> 02:42:22.780 Mastodon is not death metal. 02:42:24.000 --> 02:42:24.180 Right. 02:42:24.180 --> 02:42:26.160 But they're contractually mentioned every episode. 02:42:28.300 --> 02:42:28.520 So, 02:42:29.180 --> 02:42:33.600 and I feel like Hannes Grossman is becoming contractually has to be 02:42:33.740 --> 02:42:34.420 mentioned every episode. 02:42:34.440 --> 02:42:38.060 Cause he's literally is on every fucking album for every band in the 02:42:38.140 --> 02:42:38.280 world. 02:42:38.680 --> 02:42:38.820 Yeah. 02:42:38.980 --> 02:43:08.700 He really is on this album and this album is by the same name. It's Moral Collapse. Not album, actually band. Sorry. Moral Collapse from India. I absolutely love this band. They only have one release, but they have a new one coming out in a couple months. And Hannes is on it, so he makes my list. Nice. That's a good one. Yeah. Yeah, I love that record. I have the test press for that record, actually. 02:43:10.319 --> 02:43:37.160 So my list came together this morning, not this morning, this day, this midday, this afternoon. Um, cause I didn't have time to work on it. And so I was like, fuck, you know, when you, when you mentioned it, I was like, oh, this won't be so bad. And then I started thinking about it and I was like, shit, I don't know when people started. And so, you know, metal archive, Hey, what did, no. Okay. Hey, no. Okay. So my list. 02:43:39.000 --> 02:44:07.960 I'm probably forgetting a lot of really cool bands and I've already heard a few. And at least two of my bands are questionable in terms of Justin's purity law. And my number five. It's my own purity law. I'm not like putting it on anyone else. It's mine, but I'm doing it. And my number five definitely falls into that category and that is Necropanther. Hmm. Nice. Hmm. 02:44:38.980 --> 02:45:08.960 I feel about that but it's fine you don't know how you feel about that you feel betrayed so short thrashy death metal yeah yeah metal archive says melodic death thrash metal I don't care it's death metal they say thrashy death metal so yeah from the horses from the panther's mouth exactly so ski you guys Nick a panther 02:45:09.000 --> 02:45:38.920 The Last One is Great. All their stuff's great. I didn't like the one before that. Before the new one? Yeah, In Depths We Sleep, I think what it was. Really? It was, I didn't like it. Oh, yeah. Technically, I think this is an EP because it's only four songs. And they had an EP before that last one, right? Yeah, but The Doom City was the last album. That was good. Yeah, that was good. No, in between this new one and Doom City is In Depths We Sleep. Yeah, no, I didn't. 02:45:39.000 --> 02:46:08.720 I didn't like it. Yeah. Yeah. But EPs is where you do the shit that people don't like. So. Yeah. What? Well, I mean, some people do. It's like where you experiment with things. You're like, hey, how does this work? Oh, okay. Not so good. Okay. We're not going to do that on an album. Oh, wow. I feel like they have a similar sound to Hot Graves, too, who put out a pretty interesting, I think the last EP I really liked from them, but I wasn't really digging this new one. 02:46:09.000 --> 02:46:38.960 I feel like it's skeleton witch like worship like not worship but like it's giving me the skeleton witch that I miss yeah you know I miss them too all right number four oh is that me again that's you again um wait let me pull my list I actually wrote this down actually my whole ride home from San Diego was making this list 02:46:40.920 --> 02:47:08.820 So my number five was actually Putrescine and then my number four was all of those maggot stop bands. But I'm going to put, I'm going to put Undeath at four. All right. Nice. A wise choice. Justin? They're definitely blowing the scene up right now. Oh, but yeah, I think, yeah, they're worth all the hype. Like all the hype is well-deserved, I feel like. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So my number four, this is kind of my, 02:47:08.980 --> 02:47:38.360 Like H2M, more European death metal based pick. In terms of a band that I feel like is doing it really well. And they're also drawing a lot of attention to the scene. And that's Beast. Beast. Beast based, yeah. Dude. Like that, like Bolt Thrower Worship, Be Graceless. You know, the H2M, like newer Graceless Incarnation and bands like that. But I feel like they're doing it. 02:47:39.000 --> 02:48:08.960 The Best. That was my number six. Okay. So that was on there and then it went boop. But yeah, totally. Yeah, because like all the records are killer. This last one, they just kind of blew up a little bit more from it. But like all the records are killer. Yeah. And they do a sick full thrower cover. Actually. Markazan. Yeah, my number four is Of Feather and Bone. Profound Lawrence. You know, I meant to look them up to see 02:48:09.000 --> 02:48:38.960 if they fit and I didn't. Yeah, I'm a huge supporter of this band as you guys know. They just deliver every time just a relentless freaking slaughter wave of the most evil death metal out there. Their first album, Embrace of the Wretched Flesh, came out in 2015. I liked that one a lot, but it really wasn't until 2018 that I considered them to be a top tier death band. And I think they just dialed it in with the 02:48:39.000 --> 02:49:08.940 the bestial hymns of perversion. And then they chased that two years later with a freaking killer LP, Sulfuric Disintegration. And both of those albums made my top 25 at number, I think, I think, um, hymns was three and Sulfuric Disintegration was like number 15 or something. Um, so the band is just a consistent death metal go-to band for me at this point. And that was something I considered. We haven't really talked about it too much. 02:49:08.980 --> 02:49:33.860 But I said it in Cryptic Shift because they have the one album, they have the EP. But a lot of these bands, the rest of these bands have at least two records. And I think, you know, I need a couple of really good releases for me to put them in that upper echelon, you know, back to back that have made like a real impression on me in order to have them on the list. So, yeah, love of Feather and Bone. 02:49:33.980 --> 02:50:03.960 Yeah, no, they're great. Yeah. I just didn't, I didn't, I took them out of the morning because it was, to me, they're like Deathgrind, which I love Deathgrind. Not pure. For myself, that's what I'm just saying. Oh, man. They are unpure. They must be cast out. The police got me again. All right, Matt. All right, number four. They've had releases on my list, at least at 02:50:03.980 --> 02:50:33.400 The Last Two Albums, the last two albums that have come out. They had their first full length in 2017. They are from the Netherlands. The band is Graceless. I think they are just so riff-centric. I find myself just completely addicted to their riffage, but I really just care about what Justin thinks. As do we all. Yeah. Listen, I mentioned them when I was talking about Beast because to me they're in that same realm of newer H2M bands. 02:50:34.000 --> 02:51:03.960 are doing stuff where they're paying awesome like homage to like the sweetest h2m sound but they're making it their own deal and it doesn't sound derivative to me so love it yeah okay good one john all right my number four um it's a band i like a lot and i've loved their last two releases and somehow they didn't make my top 25 for both of those years i don't understand why but i think they're a pretty cool band 02:51:04.120 --> 02:51:33.860 By the way, I noticed all my bands, no repeat countries, which is kind of cool when you think about it. So my number four is Faceless Burial from Australia. Yeah. Of their last two releases. And for some reason, they just kept falling off my list each year, but I keep going back to them and listen. It's like, fuck, this band is awesome. So I fucking love that speciation record. Last one was good too, but that speciation one was fucking amazing. I love that one. And I think the last two are, 02:51:34.000 --> 02:52:03.360 similar and in the first the EP and the first album are more similar to each other. It's because the last two of the songs are longer, but they're well-written songs. So it's a cool band. They're really good. I didn't really love the production of this last one. I felt like it kind of wasn't as good as the one before. A little different. Yeah, I agree. Yeah, so that's why they kind of lost it a little bit on me, but I fucking love them. Again, because I'm doing scenes too, in terms of it being popular, in terms of the overall metal thing, 02:52:04.000 --> 02:52:33.540 Australia has so many killer death metal bands that are coming up. But I feel like they're not quite where the other death metal bands, other scenes are at the moment. They don't have quite as much eyes on them yet, but there's so many killer bands there. Me? It's you. So my number four is going to be like, what? Because I think this is probably like... Alright, it's Tumult. Yeah. 02:52:34.819 --> 02:53:03.720 What? Number four. There was one. Yeah. Yeah, it's too mold. Yeah. I got the impression. So, Jay, who is not here, gave us his top five and all five of them. This is number four, too. All five of his were too mold. Go on, John. I'm sorry. I took that away from you, George. I apologize. Yeah, no worries. My fault. I'm sorry. I'll buy you beer a decibel and let Will slap your butt. 02:53:03.800 --> 02:53:32.020 He put two mold at number four. You don't know him anything. Exactly. Exactly. See, I told you, well, I was like, this is going to cause some controversy. I love saying that way, controversy, because it's number four, when there's probably like much higher eventually. But hey. It wasn't number nine, so you have nothing to complain about. Yeah, but you know, we got Australian bands we got to think about. So, and things that aren't pure. I'm having impure thoughts, Justin. 02:53:33.800 --> 02:54:03.740 Oh, boy. All right. Number three. For me, it's Creeping Death. I like that band. Yeah. That was another one. You got a new one coming out soon? They do. Yeah, they do. Yeah. They're great live. Really good time. Yep. Good Metallica song, too. Yes. All right, Justin. All right. What am I? I'm at number three, right? 02:54:03.800 --> 02:54:33.420 Yeah. Okay. So this is kind of my like, uh, um, not to mold, but like to mold sound that's happening like that ish. Yeah. So like that, like Northwest, like Seattle, Portland, like area sound that, you know, it came out and, um, to molds, definitely one of the more, I'm not saying I don't, they're from Canada. They're from Canada. Right. But like they had that same, they kind of share some of that same sound. 02:54:33.440 --> 02:55:01.340 And to me, I put in like Tumult there and like Ossuarium and like Necro, like bands like that, where like it's got like the grittier kind of more grosser sounds in it. My number three, though, is a band that I feel like they I think they self-admittedly said that they don't tour, which is why they didn't quite get as noticed as a lot of the Tumults and Gate Creepers and all that at the time. But Outer Heaven. Oh, shit. 02:55:01.920 --> 02:55:30.500 Yeah, because they put out really killer records. They're really fucking good. And they're just not ever like, they haven't, they didn't hit that peak. Like they didn't get quite on that train because he didn't tour as much. Well, we saw them. They were at Decibel. We interviewed him. George, we've seen them twice. Yeah, we saw them at Atlas. No, we saw them at Droid. Yeah, Droid. That's what it was. We saw Outer Heaven with Horrendous. Yeah. 02:55:31.380 --> 02:55:36.940 We did. Wait, when was this? The Drake Theory's 02:55:38.380 --> 02:55:40.840 anniversary party. Probably 2018, 02:55:41.220 --> 02:55:42.760 2019, something like that. Oh, because 02:55:43.580 --> 02:55:45.920 I just saw them with, it was, I went for 02:55:46.060 --> 02:55:47.540 Reeking Aura, it was Reeking Aura, 02:55:48.180 --> 02:55:49.760 Outer Heaven, and 02:55:50.080 --> 02:55:52.100 Horrendous. Yeah, I saw that. 02:55:52.360 --> 02:55:53.680 I just went in like January, 02:55:54.210 --> 02:55:56.020 I think I went for that. Yeah, I think they have 02:55:56.020 --> 02:55:58.000 a new album coming out, so they're touring again a little bit. 02:55:58.310 --> 02:56:00.240 Yeah, Outer Heaven's on my honorable mention. 02:56:00.440 --> 02:56:28.900 It would be number six on my list. I really like the band. I just don't have as many people say Outer Heaven when I feel like they should be talking about Outer Heaven just as much as they should be talking about. I think one more release. If the next release is real good, I think they'll be in the conversation. It's been a while since that last one. This is like gluttony of bands, this subgenre right now. And that's why when you said 2015, I got exactly what you're getting at. This is like so many bands. 02:56:29.460 --> 02:56:31.840 Yeah, and they're all good. 02:56:32.100 --> 02:56:33.400 You know, there's so many good ones. 02:56:34.540 --> 02:56:35.500 It's just what you like. 02:56:36.900 --> 02:56:36.980 Yep. 02:56:38.380 --> 02:56:38.900 Markisan. 02:56:40.580 --> 02:56:40.900 Oh, yeah. 02:56:41.080 --> 02:56:43.020 Number three for me is Blood Incantation. 02:56:43.800 --> 02:56:43.960 Nice. 02:56:44.120 --> 02:56:45.580 I think we're all big fans of this band. 02:56:45.700 --> 02:56:46.100 Shocker. 02:56:46.120 --> 02:56:46.860 It's really exciting. 02:56:47.620 --> 02:56:48.100 That's weird. 02:56:48.320 --> 02:56:50.820 Innovative blend, progressive psychedelic space death. 02:56:51.100 --> 02:56:51.220 Yeah. 02:56:51.400 --> 02:56:52.160 I love it. 02:56:52.400 --> 02:56:53.380 Starspawn was awesome. 02:56:54.220 --> 02:56:57.940 And Hidden History of the Human Race, that fucking blew me away. 02:56:58.680 --> 02:57:26.760 And if that wasn't enough, even though it's not death metal, they put out a killer Dark Ambient album in Time Wave Zero. And that choice to release something that was decidedly non-metal and just so damn good just made me love the band even more. And, you know, it still fits within their wheelhouse because they do that kind of spacey death. So love them. And they're really good live, too. Yeah, they are. 02:57:26.820 --> 02:57:56.520 Not to detract from them at all, but according to Justin's rules, they have three demos in 2013 and 2014. I don't give a fuck about Justin's rules. Fuck Justin's rules. Official release. I didn't have any rules. This won't be on his list because it's too progressive. Well, I didn't put it on mine because of that. Like I said, official release, the first one was their interdimensional extinction. 02:57:56.800 --> 02:58:26.780 EP, which by the way, is really fucking good. And that was in 2015. Very good. 2015. Yeah, I got you. Which I think all the demo stuff's on that, I think. Yeah. Yeah. I went with full release. I think that only really affects one of my albums because some of the bands on my list, they had an EP and it was like 2015. I think there's one band on my list that had an EP in 2014. Yeah. I think it was A Feather and Bone had an EP in 2014, but their first release was 02:58:27.500 --> 02:58:56.780 was in, you know, after that. So. Yeah, literally the only rule that I had come up with was when John asked me what it was. And that's when I decided what it was. I didn't know what it was. Yeah, because some of the band's formation dates are real sketchy, meaning like they are, they aren't a certain date and it's hard to tell for some of them. So. Yeah. All right. Matt. Great. But number three, they put out their 02:58:56.840 --> 02:59:24.540 First EP in 2015. I did actually count APs. I did not count demos. And they've had two full-length releases, 2019 and 2022, all the way from New Jersey. I'm going to call them Half as opposed to Hoth because there's a band called Hoth, but going with Half. Both are out. These albums are ranked high on my year-end lists and, you know, a little bit more progressive. Metal Archives has them listed as progressive black and death metal. 02:59:26.880 --> 02:59:55.620 I'm sorry. You are the weakest link. But it meets my rule. I will be shamed. I will be shamed by Justin. Death shame. No, listen, that was in my top, I think my top five records of last year. I fucking love Hath. But again, I was going, I was just trying to keep the, for myself, I was just keeping the core. But they were in consideration because I fucking love them too. We love contenders. That's all that matters. I could have been a contender. 02:59:56.800 --> 03:00:26.720 All right, John. Matt, for a second, I thought when you said Hoth, you were just being some snobby, pretentious jerk, but I didn't realize you were talking about the band Hoth. So my number three, I agree with Jay with my number three, and that would be Tumult. Well, you know, it's one more. It's not bad. Because I got to like more than Tumult, which is saying something because Tumult's three albums are pretty damn good. Yeah. Yeah, I was surprised, actually. 03:00:26.820 --> 03:00:55.620 to find them at number four. I was like, really? Yeah. So, hey, my number three. They need a new one. They do. They are new. They needed to take that break bad. That was a lot of shit for three years. Yeah. Well, because it didn't, um, it really came out in 2018 and then the next record was like 2019 and then they did right away right after that. Right. Yeah. And then the, well, they 2017, 18, 19. 03:00:56.800 --> 03:01:26.740 What was it? Yeah, I think I did three years in a row, didn't they, for their releases? Let me see. 18 was definitely Manner of Infinite Forms. And then I think Planetary Clairvoyance came out in 19. And the first album came out in 2017. Yep. So they did release that short little EP single kind of thing. It's really in Salvation. Like 15, 16 minutes long. So hopefully they got something in the box. Oh wait, that's right. The one dude's busy doing Dream Unending. So good. And actually one guy's in Outer Heaven. I totally forgot about that. 03:01:26.820 --> 03:01:56.480 Yeah. Yep. That's right. Fuck. These guys were so many bands. What the fuck? All right. Sorry. No worries. So my number three, I think is going to come up at least one more time. I think that would be cosmic putrefaction. Wow. Now that's cosmic. Nice. Wow. Really? Yeah. Some good shit. Good shit. And George, I don't know if you've done it yet, but they're total. 03:01:56.820 --> 03:02:26.740 And it's funny to say for a death mode band, they're a headphones band. Oh yeah, totally. So much shit going on in the background. Absolutely. Yeah, no. That was one of the ones that came up quickly. I was like, oh fuck yeah, that's going to be in there. Nice. That's a great pick. All right, number two. Back to you. I put Tribal Gaze. My number two. Chugger. Yeah, I know. I spilled the beans. 03:02:26.860 --> 03:02:27.780 early on here. 03:02:31.141 --> 03:02:32.960 Yeah, they're fantastic. 03:02:33.300 --> 03:02:34.840 I caught them. 03:02:35.700 --> 03:02:41.140 They hopped on a tour with Creeping Death and I think it was Spirit World. 03:02:41.880 --> 03:02:50.200 I think they were replacing somebody that dropped off like last minute and holy shit, like knock the socks off of everybody at that show. 03:02:50.240 --> 03:02:51.300 They were so good. 03:02:51.680 --> 03:02:53.780 That last album I thought was like fantastic. 03:02:54.980 --> 03:03:24.360 Yeah, that's my number two. Excellent. EP's killer too. That Travel Gaze EP from like two years ago, whatever it was, that was awesome. Okay, my number two is kind of my pick for kind of like the East Coast kind of brutal stuff that kind of gets, you know, ekes into more of the, you know, and I guess you would put, I would put it in like, 03:03:24.960 --> 03:03:54.920 Sango Suga Bog into this. Even on the East Coast, the band Laceration just has a little bit more of that stompiness, a little bit more of that grooviness and brutalness to it, too. I feel like they are criminally underrated. The band is Scorched, especially their album Epileptic Butchery. I feel like it's criminally 03:03:55.420 --> 03:04:24.840 underrated. And especially now that people are, I feel like getting a little bit more okay with, um, more interesting, but guttural vocals, um, with some of the more techie bands that I would consider like, you know, like artificial brain, like I would put into there and like, uh, bands like that. Um, they do it on a level that I think is a lot more digestible for, uh, other metal heads, but they have to like, 03:04:24.960 --> 03:04:27.340 I guess and I feel like 03:04:28.560 --> 03:04:29.440 they have a lot 03:04:29.640 --> 03:04:31.500 of more potential and 03:04:31.830 --> 03:04:33.180 I like the sound that they're doing 03:04:33.780 --> 03:04:33.960 and 03:04:35.540 --> 03:04:36.760 yeah so Scorched 03:04:37.250 --> 03:04:37.660 that's my 03:04:38.740 --> 03:04:38.880 excellent 03:04:40.079 --> 03:04:42.140 I feel like you've talked about them 03:04:42.270 --> 03:04:44.020 on the cast when you were on before Justin 03:04:44.240 --> 03:04:45.320 I know you have 03:04:46.260 --> 03:04:46.860 at least to me 03:04:46.990 --> 03:04:48.060 it's possible I have yeah 03:04:48.540 --> 03:04:49.780 it's possible I have yeah 03:04:50.270 --> 03:04:51.160 I really love that record 03:04:52.400 --> 03:04:53.700 and I love their other stuff too 03:04:53.700 --> 03:04:54.920 the other stuff's great also 03:04:54.940 --> 03:05:24.780 But I feel like they missed a little bit of like they were riding a little bit of a wave and they kind of got off a little bit quicker than some of the other bands that are maybe a little bit more popular now. So I'm kind of pimping them a little bit with my number two because I love them so much. Nice. Nice. Yeah. All right, Mark is on. Yeah, my number two. I think I'm the only one on the cast who's really into this band, which is a little surprising to me, but Frenolith. Just absolutely. Oh, no. 03:05:24.800 --> 03:05:54.780 I like monstrous death yeah they're good yeah I love the dark mystical energy that they have to their songs that's what um I kind of put some over the top for me because it's it's it's death metal but then they have this like atmosphere to them that I really enjoy and then the drumming and this band is just phenomenal um their last two albums were in my top 10 um and I love the EP we're talking about EPs they did one called ornamental dead eyes 03:05:54.860 --> 03:06:24.780 and I remember listening to the last record Chimera on repeat for a few hours on a plane ride it was in December 2021 because it it came out late in the year and I wanted to give it a fair shot for the list it was like the 10th of December or something we probably recording like mid-year or whatever and I must have listened to it maybe like eight times in a row and I took off my headphones and I remember thinking oh yeah I guess frontalis is one of my favorite death metal bands now so 03:06:24.780 --> 03:06:54.760 Yeah, all their last three releases, two full lengths and an EP, just phenomenal stuff. So yeah. I know Will likes them too. Yeah. And then last one was 2021. So maybe, I don't know if we're getting anything this year, but maybe next year would be great. Cool. Yeah. They're a cool band. Definitely a cool band. They're on Nuclear Winter Records, which I sent them a message because I wanted that album so I could listen to it for the year end. And so now we get some cool 03:06:54.820 --> 03:07:24.760 releases from them that I didn't really know about before that so that's also neat yeah all right Matt my number two should come as no surprise two mode just because they're two mode if Jay was here that would work better that's exactly that's all you need Matt yep yep yep yep all right John all right my number two 03:07:24.800 --> 03:07:52.920 Following George again, Cosmic Petrefaction. I knew you were going to have it. Hell yeah, I love this band. Well, the main dude. I know you. He's prolific, yes. Yeah. He's got like, I think, six of his own bands. It's crazy. And they're all cool. They're all good, yeah. A lot of bands. Yeah. And they're all just slightly different, each one. Just a little bit, so. All right. 03:07:57.500 --> 03:08:24.760 We're Wolves. Come on now. We're Wolves. Fucking A. I don't know. It's maybe more British than Australian, but I don't know. I've got a little South African in there. I don't know. That band's growing on me. I know how much you love them. They are just... I mean, in terms of my list and death metal, other than Two Mold, We're Wolves is the most... 03:08:24.800 --> 03:08:53.940 Like straight up fucking death, brutal, kick you in the face. Death metal. I remember listening to you pick me up from the airport. Oh, that's right. Damn, that's a good memory there. We were playing werewolves. That's right. I was like, man, I'm digging this. It was exceptional in the car, I thought. Yeah, as well. Oh, that was a good day. Yeah, that was a good day. Yeah. All right. 03:08:55.160 --> 03:09:24.740 Stace number one. Again, no surprise. I spelled these earlier. But, and they only really have one release. But fucking love them. And I love what I'm hearing from the new one that's coming out. And I love that they're kind of silly. Like, they don't take themselves too seriously. I love fucking video games and D&D and all that kind of shit. And, and death metal and summoning. 03:09:24.800 --> 03:09:54.700 The Lich brings all of that. Nice. I like them. Yeah. They were at Atlas, I don't know, like what, a month ago? With Gorod. Yeah, and I didn't go. You should have. I know, but I don't like to leave the house anymore. So. I couldn't go. Unfortunately, I had plans already. That's another reason I didn't go. Yeah. I had one or two shows like that where I planned. 03:09:54.840 --> 03:09:58.860 I got to and that didn't happen. Unlike Stacy who goes to a show no matter 03:09:59.080 --> 03:10:24.340 fucking what, I gotta have a partner. Just about, oh yeah, no, I always go by myself. Yeah, I'm like, if John's not going, I'm not going. That's just the way it is. Oh, I know, if Marcus runs with me sometimes. Yeah, but no. Like, you know, had I known earlier in advance that you weren't going to a droid, I'd have found an excuse not to go. Even though Warren was going, but, you know. It wasn't like I didn't want to go, I got sick. 03:10:24.819 --> 03:10:53.440 Oh, I know. I know. I'm not blaming you. I'm just saying. Oh, no, no, I know. I'm just saying, you know. Holy shit, I felt horrible. If I'm going to a show by myself, there is a 50% chance that I will be like, eh, and just not go. I think over half the shows I've gone to have been by myself. Yeah, I usually go by myself, too. I used to do that, but I don't anymore. All right. Go to as many shows. Whatever we like, man. You know? Yeah. Justin. 03:10:54.420 --> 03:11:23.060 Do it. Do it. Do it now. Say it. I mean, I know people probably going to think that I'm going to pick some like some super obscure, you know, band that no one's even fucking heard of. But I'm actually going with the opposite. I'm going with why I think. And again, I was going by LP not EP. So. You know, whatever, whatever. But I feel like the what really kicked off the. 03:11:24.420 --> 03:11:54.360 this new wave of popularity with the death metal was the Southwest death metal scene with bands like Creeping Death and Tribal Gays and all those. But I think the ones who kicked it off, even though they were not from Texas, but kind of close by, is Gay Creeper. And I think Gay Creeper is, they did a lot. They put death metal into people's attention more so than any other band had in the past. 03:11:54.400 --> 03:12:23.500 past 10 years prior to that, probably since necrophages, right? Where all metal heads knew what they were and what they sounded like. And I know some people are like, oh, they're kind of hipstery, whatever. They have the hipstery crowd and shit like that. And they do. But I think it's elevated death metal into this new wave of popularity. And I think that they did it the best. And they're fucking good live and all their records are awesome. 03:12:23.600 --> 03:12:52.440 So I feel like all of the kind of shit they get is just because they're popular and I think people are resentful of that. I don't know. So you're saying it's like the post 2015 Metallica Black album is what you're saying. That is weird with Gay Creeper because they're freaking vicious. I mean, they're awesome. Isn't this funny? This is a band that plays in front of like 250 people and they're too fucking popular and they're like the flavor of the month. 03:12:52.460 --> 03:13:22.400 And you're just looking at these ass clowns saying, look, just because your favorite band plays in your living room, don't don't shit all over my band that's playing in the next biggest room, you know, in the basement. Like, exactly. Exactly. It's just so fucking lame. I know. I never understood the whole gay creeper thing where people are shit all over them. Yeah. When bands, right. It's when bands get too big, too quick. Sometimes, even if it's deserved, like even if they're putting in all their efforts, 03:13:22.460 --> 03:13:51.520 and it just so happened that they hit at the right time. That doesn't mean that they're not deserving of it, but I feel like people try to take it away where it's like, oh, well, everyone knows who they are now, so they're not special anymore, so I'm going to kind of shit on them a little bit. I never understood that. It's kind of funny because it's like we were talking about the whole metal community and like, oh, we're so great, we're a community and all that, but at the same time, we've got some really fucking uptight, grumpy motherfuckers. 03:13:52.000 --> 03:14:21.620 Oh, we sure do. Not without our problems, right? Yeah. And then there's always NSBM, but you know, they're like the, we don't talk about them. Exactly. Gatekeeping is just fucking lame. Yeah. So it's like, as great as we are, we're still not perfect because we have shit that is just stupid. Yeah. Like again, like I made like these self-imposed rules on myself. Meanwhile, like every band that's been talked about so far is fucking awesome and they're amazing. 03:14:21.720 --> 03:14:51.680 and I love them and yeah they're fucking death metal too but I'm just being picky I don't know I will say so I started a new role at work maybe six months ago and so as I've gotten to know my new boss you know like all of us and all of our lifestyles you know my love of metal comes up and so now like it's a lot more on his radar and so he came in one morning it was like I heard this story on NPR about like the kind of the pitch at what death 03:14:54.419 --> 03:15:21.300 and they interviewed two people. So he's like, you know, maybe you've heard of him, I don't know. And he never went into specifics, but I went back and listened. And one was John Tardy from Obituary. The other one was Chase from Gate Creeper talking about it. And Chase's quote was awesome because if I don't taste blood in my throat, that hasn't been a good night. And I honestly, I didn't put him on my list just because they had the EP in 2014, EPs to make my, you know, kind of self-imposed rules. 03:15:21.360 --> 03:15:22.840 But like unexpected reality, 03:15:23.210 --> 03:15:25.860 I have listened to that album probably a thousand times. 03:15:25.910 --> 03:15:26.620 I listened to it. 03:15:27.220 --> 03:15:30.320 Like I hear this one song from that album every day of my life. 03:15:30.420 --> 03:15:31.120 Cause it's in my ring. 03:15:31.360 --> 03:15:31.580 Honestly. 03:15:31.790 --> 03:15:35.380 And like even temple avoid had a record out last year, 03:15:35.670 --> 03:15:37.500 but I would say that gatekeeper, 03:15:38.220 --> 03:15:39.400 like best death, 03:15:39.560 --> 03:15:39.760 doom, 03:15:40.680 --> 03:15:41.860 like track of the year. 03:15:43.340 --> 03:15:43.540 Yeah. 03:15:43.740 --> 03:15:46.760 I looked up temple avoid to see if they qualified and they did not. 03:15:52.340 --> 03:16:20.060 Yeah, they would have been my number one, obviously, if I was going by 2014. He could have just said 2014 or 2013. But anyway, yeah. All right, John. Oh, it's my turn. Is that about me? Yeah, because I thought we had to do Marcus and Matt. I thought Matt just went. No, I was just commenting. I haven't even gone. Ignore me. I don't fuck. 03:16:23.881 --> 03:16:27.700 Okay. My number one is 03:16:28.640 --> 03:16:29.220 Tomb Mald. 03:16:32.001 --> 03:16:34.160 My top 25 lists. 03:16:35.340 --> 03:16:38.740 It's the band with the best riffs and all the coolest cosmic gadgetry 03:16:39.660 --> 03:16:40.360 in their pockets. 03:16:40.940 --> 03:16:43.000 So love that band. 03:16:43.500 --> 03:16:45.920 And I think we should mention too 03:16:47.100 --> 03:16:47.860 that I don't know. 03:16:48.140 --> 03:16:49.880 It might have happened before I was on the cast, 03:16:50.080 --> 03:17:20.040 But since I've been on the cast, there's only one album that we've all agreed on. That is the only one. Yes. Planetary Clairvoyance album of the month. All six votes is the only one that I've known. It's the only one. You know, I thought we could get close with Enslaved last month. I did too. It almost happened. I knew Will wasn't. We knew Will wouldn't do it though. Yeah. But yeah, all the planets, all the stars, they aligned for once in a 03:17:20.100 --> 03:17:50.040 generation eclipse of metal it'll never happen again so yeah until the next two mold record which is pretty cool so yeah i love two mold i am definitely anxiously awaiting what they're gonna do next they definitely deserve the break like john said but uh hopefully they come back with a with a vengeance soon nice now matt now me okay so i have like a big three of death metal one is two mold one is horrendous 03:17:50.120 --> 03:17:57.900 who has been around too long which is horrendous and then this band uh blood 03:17:58.100 --> 03:18:05.040 incantation i really i mean i can't say enough good things i really you know i don't know 03:18:06.000 --> 03:18:12.940 star spawn when it came out in 2016 was my number one album of that year and game changer yeah and 03:18:13.080 --> 03:18:18.600 like hidden history of the human race was just it was just like time never passed but you know i felt 03:18:18.600 --> 03:18:22.440 I waited forever with that one. And you know, the Time Wave Zero 03:18:22.480 --> 03:18:24.520 is great, but I still just really 03:18:24.660 --> 03:18:26.340 want, I just want more 03:18:26.600 --> 03:18:28.420 Blood Incantation. So 03:18:29.220 --> 03:18:30.200 that's my number one. 03:18:31.020 --> 03:18:31.080 Cool. 03:18:32.560 --> 03:18:34.160 John, do you concur? 03:18:36.140 --> 03:18:36.800 I like that pick. 03:18:37.080 --> 03:18:38.940 I was going to say this band has gotten 03:18:39.380 --> 03:18:41.020 actually shit for being too popular now. 03:18:41.460 --> 03:18:42.660 Kind of like Gate Creeper. 03:18:43.420 --> 03:18:44.680 Which I don't understand. 03:18:45.000 --> 03:18:46.540 But apparently, you know, 03:18:46.760 --> 03:19:16.600 And they've apparently gone off the rails with their last release. And they're shit and they're never going back to what they used to be. I still think they're kind of cool. My number one is Blood Incantation. Isn't it amazing how the amount of crap that band has got. These guys are so fucking good. Which I don't understand. People lost it over Time Waves. I was like, it's a one-off. Relax. Relax. Don't do it. I think it's like a natural thing with certain people. 03:19:16.740 --> 03:19:46.720 It's like when certain bands get almost like the oversaturation of attention because they're that good. It's just like natural reaction. People just like they have to start like pretending like it's not good anymore. Well, it's going to happen on death because they blew up last year. And if their next release is big, they'll be the next band to get victimized by that by the smart metal fans. Yeah, well, I mean, honestly, with me, I was kind of 03:19:46.760 --> 03:20:16.240 I'm bummed out by the last one I'm not gonna lie I there's there's tracks on it that I love don't get me wrong but like I felt like uh the first one legions I felt like it had um it had that fresh take for me where I feel like it had you you heard all the influences right but it didn't necessarily sound derivative and I feel like with the newer one um I felt like I was listening to like a corpse record whereas I didn't necessarily get that vibe from the first one 03:20:16.760 --> 03:20:46.680 So I'm curious to see what they do on their newer stuff and how they ride the wave of popularity. I'd actually be surprised if there was backlash to their popularity just because they just I think they're always just going to give you that meat and potatoes death metal. I don't know if they're going to do anything above that. I don't think they're going to rise above if you will. No it's not that mark it's not it's just they get on a couple magazine covers and they become number one in somebody's list and right away well they're shit now. It's like what? Oh yeah. There's always going to be those people. 03:20:46.740 --> 03:20:48.240 It's unreal 03:20:49.140 --> 03:20:49.860 Well even me 03:20:49.870 --> 03:20:50.800 No I think they probably 03:20:50.840 --> 03:20:51.500 They probably 03:20:52.360 --> 03:20:53.320 Yeah they probably just listened 03:20:53.370 --> 03:20:54.800 I think that they came up with the second record 03:20:55.300 --> 03:20:55.680 They were 03:20:55.900 --> 03:20:57.540 You know they're trying to be a full time band 03:20:57.610 --> 03:20:57.960 And they're 03:20:58.120 --> 03:21:00.580 They're making sure that they're gonna be a full time band 03:21:00.760 --> 03:21:01.920 And that's cool too 03:21:02.250 --> 03:21:02.720 I just was 03:21:02.880 --> 03:21:05.580 I was expecting a little bit different from the 03:21:05.700 --> 03:21:06.240 The 03:21:06.880 --> 03:21:08.020 The past one 03:21:08.500 --> 03:21:09.200 But there's some still 03:21:09.440 --> 03:21:11.020 There's some killer fucking songs on there 03:21:11.220 --> 03:21:12.060 Human Chandelier 03:21:12.120 --> 03:21:13.000 That song's fucking sick 03:21:14.619 --> 03:21:15.060 Anyways 03:21:15.900 --> 03:21:16.720 Alright cool 03:21:16.740 --> 03:21:45.220 George, close it off for us. So my number one is so not totally death metal. It's technically, according to Metal Archives, black slash death metal. Oh, boy. Oh, boy. But I fucking love this band because it features. Okay, well, then what is it going to be? No, I'm sorry. No, I want to know. I want to hear a guess. I'm guessing it's Sludge. No, no. 03:21:45.460 --> 03:22:15.160 They don't qualify. They're pre-2015. That's right. Not even including demos. Yes. They had full links before. So members of this band predate the qualifications because of their previous band, Akra Kok. I know. I thought you were going with memoriam. Actually, that probably was a good idea, too. But no, the Antichrist Imperium. 03:22:17.399 --> 03:22:45.440 It's just this shit just blows my fucking mind. I mean, yes, it's not pure death, but it is death-y. Come on. Validate me. Come on. Validate me. Make me feel better. What are you on, Reddit? Yeah, I know. But no, this is one of the first ones I thought of. I was like, hey, I know, you know, this is like post-Acker Cocker. So it qualified. It was like right on the 03:22:45.480 --> 03:22:50.280 I think 2015 and I was like boom totally because like especially the 03:22:50.660 --> 03:22:58.400 volume three that just came out last year fucking amazing so yeah crickets yeah what's the other 03:22:58.680 --> 03:23:05.020 Akra Kok related band it's like voices voices yeah yeah yeah I looked that one up too but that one 03:23:05.320 --> 03:23:13.160 was didn't qualify it's not death metal I don't care it's close enough I would have put it on I would have put it on here if it qualified 03:23:13.180 --> 03:23:43.140 That is a good album. It is. It's really good. Yeah, no, and George, I tried out that integration period. I mean, it was decent, but to me it didn't hit, and I think it was because there was too much black metal. Yeah, I know. It's a mix, but I don't know. Yeah. Anyway, moving on. We have one last thing to do, and that is pick an album of the episode. Anything that anyone 03:23:43.180 --> 03:24:13.100 has mentioned in any capacity other than Leviathan. Can be three times. Stace, what's your, what would you pick as your album of the episode of anything that you or anyone else has mentioned? I mentioned it and I'm going to mention it again. So maybe some of you go and listen to it, but it's the first. She's my album. Well, I think it's released on Spotify as the same. 03:24:13.180 --> 03:24:42.940 But it's, yeah, first and magical. How do you pronounce them? Shizma? Okay. What do you say, Shizma? I say Zizma. Because I've never heard anybody else say it before. Right, no, I think I looked it up. You know what, it's a name, it's like a medical term for, like, diarrhea. Of course that makes sense. And it's what again? No, I mean, just pronounce it again. Shizma? Shizma? 03:24:43.160 --> 03:25:13.140 That makes sense. Yeah. Is that S-H-I-Z-M-A? It's X-Y-S-M-A. Yeah. Okay. All right. I learned something today. Not that I am pronouncing it correctly. Well. I certainly had trouble with pronunciation this episode. It happens. It happens here. Still can't say it. Still can't. It makes more sense. Well. Sangwishigabog? Sangwishigabog. That's one of those 03:25:19.761 --> 03:25:40.440 They actually make fun of the fact that no one can pronounce their name. I think it's funny. It's literally taken me three years to be able to pronounce it and that was also using Google. I've heard them say it. I'm going to nickname them Boggies. Juicy Bug. Alright Justin. 03:25:43.180 --> 03:26:12.960 I don't know which one I should pick. Is that pressure? Yeah, it is. You know what? I'm going to go with Scorch Epileptic Butcher because I feel like I brought it up and talked about it a lot. So I'll talk about it again. And yeah, I just feel like it's a record that if you're into this type of shit and you haven't heard it yet, you should listen to it. And if you have listened to it, you should go back and listen to it again. And then again. It's not fucking good. Yeah. 03:26:13.160 --> 03:26:41.200 Yeah. All right. Mark is on. Okay. I mean, there's only one choice for me. My favorite death metal album for my favorite death metal band is going to be playing their record in its entirety at decibel next weekend. Celebrate the 25th anniversary incantation. Diabolical conquest. Fingers crossed that Daniel Corchado comes. It's not going to happen, but I want it to happen. 03:26:47.341 --> 03:27:13.140 I wish people would stop mentioning the album because of the contract that I signed as a small child that I have to make Leviathan by Mastodon my album of the episode if I didn't have to choose that because of this contract I would probably choose an unexpected reality by Gate Creeper all right John I'm gonna go with Stormhaven Blind Sight 03:27:13.180 --> 03:27:42.000 Nice. I think I will go with the lamp of Murmur. Murmur. I like that one, George. Yeah. It's definitely, I want to say growing on me. It fucking jumped me behind the dumpster and beat the shit out of me. You thought I was going to do something else to you. You never know, but I'm not going to tell. Why were you behind a dumpster? I had to take a leak? I don't know. 03:27:44.680 --> 03:28:11.740 All right. Well, gosh, this went longer than I expected it to, actually. Still under four hours. Yeah, but the last one was under three hours. I blame Stacey. I have to go put my kids to bed. Yeah, I talk so much. I know, right? All right, well, thank you, both of you, for coming and joining us today. Yes, thanks for having me. And we'll see you very soon. Yay! 03:28:14.061 --> 03:28:41.700 I'll see Stacey on Tuesday. Yes, you will, Marcus. I'm so excited. We can coordinate. Stacey's Friday. Justin, when are you coming in? Thursday. I'll be there. Hopefully Thursday. I'm hoping mid to late afternoon. Get with us. We're going to get up there. I think we're still staying in the same spot. Marcus, you're in what time? I think I get there like 2.15 or something like that. 03:28:43.180 --> 03:29:11.260 Four something, right? Yeah, probably five-ish. Metalhead's butler's showing up around 4.30. Okay. It'll be fun. It'll be great. Get to meet people for the first time and the third time and 12th time. And we got a whole other bunch of people. When is Will getting in? Who talks to Will anymore? He's a ghost. 03:29:15.319 --> 03:29:43.140 I think he's coming in Thursday I thought it was me yeah I think I think so but yeah I haven't talked about when so all right well less than a week from now we shall reconvene and have a great time between now and then and we will talk to you later all right bye 03:30:25.039 --> 03:30:43.120 Yo! Metal Edge Podcast. What up? Heard you guys were going to some brony event or something. Some sort of metal... I don't know what it is. It might be a blacksmithing thing you're going to. Anyways, one thing. Watch out for each other. I want my boy's sweet melon coming home without any other. 03:30:43.240 --> 03:30:47.060 any injuries you hear me be good take care of little Markisan