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Now, here is the podcast, Metal Heads Podcast Go.

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Hello and welcome to the Metal Heads Podcast. My name is George.

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This is Jerry.

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Me, I'm a Will.

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This is John.

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This is Bap.

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This is Markisan.

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And we are joined today by Jeff Gresham, friend and listener of the podcast.

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You may recognize him from last year's Decibel Metal and Beer Fest episode from the boat and a few other places. Welcome, Jeff. Thanks. What's up, man? How you doing? Hey, Jeff. Doing really good. Doing really good. You know, when you mentioned about coming on, you were like, you know, I've never actually been on an episode. And that didn't really occur to me because you've, you know, we've been on a boat. That's it. Yeah.

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Yeah, that is 100%. Thanks to Will also. Wait, we were on a boat? Were we recording? I'm sorry, it was a yacht. So, and yeah, so we got to meet Jeff and his wife Stephanie at Decibel last year. And since then, they have gotten married and are expecting. So congratulations on both counts. Nice. Yeah, thanks a lot. Appreciate it. Sucker.

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We can't hear our conversation because it's all through the headphones, but you know, it's going to look like that someday. Exactly. I know. He's got a growth coming out of his back. Will does. And it's the growth's name is Will too. So it's weird. It's like, it's like total recall. It's, he's like opens up his shirt and there's, you know, at least somebody knows what I'm talking about. Yeah. I'm trying to think of his name. I can't remember it now. Yeah. Anyway. Arnold Schwarzenegger.

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I don't know the name of the little dude that came out of it. Quado. Quado, yeah. Anyway, Jeff. I literally pulled that out of my ass, by the way. I don't know where I got that. Well, put it back. It smells bad. Which, by the way, did you see Arnold Schwarzenegger had heart surgery again, by the way? But he says he's doing good. I did not know that. Speaking of Quado. Yeah, he came out of the I just had surgery closet today. So, Jeff, how are things in Texas? How's COVID treating everybody with you?

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It's been kind of kicking our ass down here. It's been skyrocketing for the last two or three months now. And they're still not shutting anything back down. But like me, for example, work has been full blown six days a week, three shifts. On site. Yeah, 100%. Well, I work in a factory, so it's kind of hard to do. Right. The glory hole factory. Man, you're busy. Actually, yes. Sorry. Well, that's projection. Don't worry.

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Sorry about that. He's just trying to relate to you in his job. We were talking before we actually pushed the record button and it sounds like you make cars. Is that what you do? Yeah, yeah. I work for GM in Arlington. We build Tahoe's, Barbance, Escalades. So what's the employee discount like on something like that? It's garbage. It's garbage. It's garbage. If you buy like a Corvette, you might.

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get like tax title license taken care of it's really nothing do you drive a do you drive a gym no i don't i drive a toyota

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so uh i'm assuming everybody's wearing masks and everything it is their distancing where we go yeah

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they're trying to enforce social distancing but you know kind of hard to when you're making cars

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yeah they're forcing us to wear these stupid paper masks we can't wear our own we can't wear n95s we

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have to wear what they supply and then yeah it's garbage that's fucking weird dude yeah and uh then like you know we're in a factory so everyone's like working on top of each other yeah so there's no social distancing going on whatsoever have you had like people getting sick i had a few but a lot fewer than you'd expect that that's good yeah you know it's funny i i work um and a library which has probably been mentioned here before but we were talking to a company this week

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who's a national provider of a computer system we use. Anyway, long story short, and they're very nice people, and they ask us how's it going, blah, blah, blah. One of them was in Nashville, and they said, you wouldn't even fucking know there's anything going on, dude. Meaning, everything's the same, you know, and that gave me the goosebumps, man. Everywhere you go here, people are being so fucking careful, you know. Oh, yeah, down here's nothing like California. They shut the bars down for a few minutes. A month, maybe. Maybe. They just reopened them.

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And if you serve food, you could keep it open. So if you could pass that line where you can say you're a restaurant, even though you sell the crap ton alcohol, then you stay open. So it's really. I mean, it's bad everywhere. I just heard on the news that Hawaii is the only place that's actually improving. You know, relevant. I'm sorry. Relevant to this too, though, is if I'm not mistaken, your wife is a nurse. Yes. Well, she's not like our end nurse, but she does.

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I was working at a hospital. Wow, that's close enough, man. While being pregnant. Is she still working right now? Yeah, she is. You may remember this from us talking at Despo, but she's got lupus as well. So she has it worked out where she just stays in the monitor room where she just watches heart monitors all day long. She's in this little closet with maybe one other person. That's good. They don't let her go in the sick rooms anywhere near that stuff.

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She's kind of quarantined at work, which is really good. Yeah. I did remember she had lupus. Well, she also posts about her lupus sometimes. I don't really know the nature of that disease. Can you kind of say it briefly what that is? I don't really know what lupus is. You have an overactive immune system. And depending on the severity of your particular disease, because it varies from person to person, it will treat your organs as if it's something it needs to kill. Fuck. Yeah.

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Which would go perfectly with COVID, by the way, because that also fucks up. Wow. Well, we're continued safety to her, sir, and everything, of course. And I'm sure she is being safe and stuff. But wow. So, Jeff. Go ahead, sorry. I was just going to say, she bathes in lice all the minutes she walks in the door and she's being super safe. Good, good. On a happier note, do you know if you're having a boy or girl, if you care to tell us? And what is the due date? Yeah, the due date.

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is April 10th, so I will not be at test school next year. Well, nobody will be. You're not missing anything. At some point, I may have to ask Albert for my money back. Yeah, I was kind of wondering about that because I've got four tickets I need to get rid of. Well, in all likelihood, it'll push off until the next year and you'll just be able to use it then. Unless, of course, you want the money back, which I would expect at some point they're going to have to offer.

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And he is a boy. Yeah, we're having a boy. Connor. Which one of us are you going to name? Sorry, man. You get the next one. Sarah Connor, the Terminator. I would have gone with Markisan. You have another Markisan in the world. That is a cool name. Right on. So I know you've been a listener for a long time.

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of all of our guests that come on that know the podcast. How did you initially come across

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us and what made you want to listen?

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Why did you not stop listening?

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Because you're the only podcast that talks about extreme metal that's worth a shit.

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So yeah, I was listening to Jamie Josta's podcast for a long time.

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And his was okay.

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I like Josta, but some of his guests were kind of dumb. And so I was looking through podcasts and trying to find something that was more extreme. And I just randomly stumbled across one that said that Metalhead's podcast might give this a shot. Yeah, I've been listening for a long time. Yeah. And it's cool because it gets me through work and whatever. That's awesome. And you have turned me on to a fuck ton of bands. Sorry about that.

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From a financial standpoint. You just made George the happiest man in the world. Yeah, I know. I learned it by listening to you, George. That's right. He's touching himself right now. I'm touching my face. Have you gone down to Madonna and Lady Gaga Road? Have you listened to that? Not yet. I'm not that deep yet, man. You know, they say wash your hands, don't touch your face, but is it okay to wash your hands and touch somebody else's face? Maybe.

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I didn't say not to. I think no touching. No touching. Universal. Touch nothing. Will looks confused by that. I think the context is lost on me. Yeah. Anyway. All right. Well, then what about you? What got you into metal? When did you get into metal? What band or bands, you know, caught your ear and

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All that.

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The history of Jeff.

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You guys are going to give me some massive shit about this.

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First off.

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I'll tell you one.

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I can already predict one person's not is Matt.

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Yeah, I thought about that earlier.

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I saw comments he's made.

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I thought about that.

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Say Black Album.

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Say Black Album.

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That was one of them.

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That was born in 1990, man.

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Come on.

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But yeah, I know.

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Baby.

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So, yeah, I started listening to ACDC as a kid because my dad listened to ACDC. And then just at one point, I decided to get into heavier stuff. And I saw the album cover for the first Slipknot record. And I thought that was the craziest fucking thing I've ever seen in my life. So I looked him up, checked him out, really liked it. I thought the first album was all right. Yeah, it's okay. It's insane.

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there, you know, going through metalcore and deathcore and a little bit of new metal and then finally getting to the good stuff.

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So what was your first extreme metal album or band?

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I mean, it'd be Slipknot if you call that extreme metal, but if...

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But if you don't?

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I guess.

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What's the first one that you're not embarrassed for?

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Oh, okay.

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Fuck.

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Probably early.

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Metallica.

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Got into Anthrax pretty early because of

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Madhouse being on Grand Theft Auto.

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Love that song.

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Yeah.

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And then

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I don't know, man.

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I don't think back that far.

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That's cool.

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Some big four for the classic.

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Yeah, it took me actually a really long time to get into Slayer,

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Believe it or not. And once I did, I was hooked. But yeah, it was Metallica, Anthrax, stuff like that. Fuck Megadeth though, right? Yeah, I just never gave a fuck about Megadeth, man. Actually, and maybe you said it, I unfortunately just got up and took my dishes away because I was eating. How old are you, Jeff? I just turned 30 in August. And sometimes that's relevant to who you got into and who it took you a while to get into a thing. What year did you start listening to metal?

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Oh, probably see, it's 14 or 15. So Oh five Oh six. And then his grades went bad and everything else. Sean, have you seen juniors grades? Sounded like a, what is those afterschool special things starting right now? I hope you guys all understood that was a Van Halen reference.

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Oh, no, I knew.

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You said juniors, Chris?

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Come on, guys.

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Give Jay a break.

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Yeah, you know, I just, you know, sometimes I think I'm the only smart person in the world.

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I know.

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That's not true.

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But that's the only one I hang out with you guys.

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That's not saying much, Jay.

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No, no, no.

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Well, John, you're also the exception to the...

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You're like the king of the dipshits.

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So, what do you recall?

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Hey, do you guys know what that reference was? Hey, do you know what that reference was? King of the dipshits? Yeah. Was it a girl said it? I think it's 16 Candles or something like that. Okay, sure. I think you are right. They were sitting in the bleachers when the guy said it, John. Yeah. Did you tell us, Jeff, what your first concert was while I was away? That's a good idea. Did not. So let's call it your first metal concert because somebody might have dragged you along to something. Let's call it the first one. You're not embarrassed, but let's do both.

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So that's another hard one, because

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growing up and where I grew up, there was a tiny, tiny scene

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for like hardcore. We called it hardcore. I don't even know what the fuck it was, but

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there'd be these local bands that come through, and then every now and then you'd see a

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bigger band come through. I guess the first one that fits this podcast would be

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Probably Slayer, Metallica. Okay. One of those. Sure. That's a nice start. Beats my David Lee Roth. Good place to start. That was your first concert, George? David Lee Roth, yeah. Wow. Eat Em and Smile. Do you remember who opened for him, George? Tesla. Mechanical Resonance. Okay, so that gives you a little bit extra, even though that's not... Was Steve Vai at least on guitar? Yes, he was. All right, well, that's okay then. Yeah.

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My first concert should have been Ozzy Metallica Master of Puppets, but I was not allowed to go. That should have been everybody's first concert. Hey, did you, by the way, did you guys see that picture of David Lee Roth? He was in like the CBS morning show recently. Yes. That is the worst fucking picture I've seen. Dude, that dude, he's grown his hair out and stuff now. He just looks like a homeless fucking crazy person.

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I'm going to him because he's doing these Japanese, this fine Japanese ink drawing art, which is actually he's, I follow him on Facebook because I think he's fucking funny and he puts these up. Anyway, it was, it was kind of an interesting interview. Look at him now, dude. He's in the last like year, he's gone into a weird direction. The last time I saw him, he was trying to do this thing where he's like wearing a suit and selling like, like super fine gentlemen's grooming products and his hair was short and you would never in a million years know it was him.

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Well, I'm going to hook you up here. I'll find this picture. He's got a Vegas residency, or he had, didn't he? He had, yeah. He opened for... I saw some of it, and it was just not good. He opened for... He was not good. The band he was with was good, but he was not good. Yeah, yeah. That was the only time I ever saw him. I saw him opening for Kiss, but I saw Van Halen with Sammy Hagar back in the day. Well, I'll talk about that more later.

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Yeah, of course. Nudge, nudge, wink, wink. Hey, Jeff, so are you going to raise

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Lil' Connor as a metalhead? You're going to let him explore his own ways? Are you going to at least introduce him to some good stuff? Shove it down his throat like Will does with his kids? Yeah, you're going to beat him if you're like, hey, daddy, Britney Spears is awesome. Like, you know, tell me your parenting approach. So, first of all, I grew up with Britney Spears, so no, I'm not going to beat him and bring some Britney Spears album.

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But uh Like you actually knew her or No no no no like the albums That was my shit in the 90s kid Then uh Are you serious? I'm dead serious Backstreet Boys NSYNC all that shit Madonna and Lady Gaga way better Hey good for you I'm getting George some credit right now Tell him the truth Stand your ground Tell Will to go fuck himself Well Will Will I think he just did Jay To redeem myself To redeem myself

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Do it one more time. I don't know where it is, but his first onesie we bought him was a fucking Slayer onesie. Awesome. Oh, nice. You know, Metalhead's podcast has a onesie. No, we don't. Do we really? We do. Well, I've made them for several people. I mean, they're custom. They're kind of expensive. Is it adult size? No, no, of course not. I made them for my sister's kid.

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My other nephews on Barb's side. Do we have adult ones, George? No, unfortunately, they don't go any bigger than like extra small. I was going to say, but can we get like the footie pajama ones for ourselves? I don't know. We'd have to find some other place. They don't offer that at Custom Inc. where I go. Briefly, let me divert your attention to the chat thread.

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I want to look at and see what David the Roth looks like right now. Will I? What if I don't want to? You do want to, trust me. Oh, wow. That's rough, huh? Is that like his Game of Thrones sort of look? I don't know. Anyway, sorry. Sorry about that. Sorry you had to see that. So Matt, not Matt, Jeff. No, let's ask Matt a question. Please. Do you know you have a caterpillar running across your lip?

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Ouch. What? Yeah. Hey, don't listen to him. It's a millipede. Looks amazing either way. I just want to score Stacey's eyebrows. Jeff, thank you very much. I mean, I love the Selleck on that. Come on. Ah, thank you. That's what I like. My goal has always been either Tom Selleck or if I put sunglasses on and a backwards hat, King Diamond without makeup. Yeah, I totally see that. And eventually, Wilford Brimley.

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I got diabetes. Hey, Matt, paint a green. You could be Sam Elliott. Ooh, that's a good stash. He doesn't have mustache control like that. No. You need the hair, though, too. It wouldn't look good. No, I get you. He's a 70-year-old man. It's still rocking that thing hard. So, Jeff, have you thought of the first song that Connor's ever going to hear in his life? What are you going to play in the maternity ward? Or are you doing like a bathtub thing at home? Like, I don't know what you're doing. No, no, no, no.

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And like in, in, in, in, you know, in the womb,

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he's not going to play a song. He's going to play the metal heads podcast to the belly. Yes. Oh God. Yes. My thought was always dope smoker. Like put that on. Oh man. He'll, he'll hit play at that one moment. One of us is talking about the glory hole and it all goes downhill from there. This is uncle bitchy, Matt.

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Did you have a musical relationship with your father? Let him answer the first question first. I think he's having trouble with it, but let's see what he's got. Yeah, yeah. I'm trying to think of something. Ask me a bunch of shit I was not ready for. There are some heavy metal nursery rhyme albums. I'm wrong about that. I did see that. The Metallica one. Yeah. That Steph was really interested in. Yeah, it's called the Black Album. It's called the Black Album. It's called the Black Album. It's called the Black Album. Don

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Nevermind that wheel noise you heard. We've checked that off like eight times already. Yeah, so probably Angela of Death from Slayer, Will. Start him off right. Terrified. Yeah. Yes. I may get some shit for this, but I think my kids have some pretty good metal cred, but the first song that Evelyn ever heard was the song

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in by Volbeat with Barney from Napalm Death on vocals. And then the second song, I think the first song my son heard was Slayer's Hate Worldwide because it was my ringtone for a little while on my phone right now. Oh, God. Nice. I got a theory about Slayer right now, and it's that, you know how, like, we have various things in our atmosphere that are what they call carbon sinks. So that's like, you know, we would have less carbon if we had more trees eating up the carbon and all that shit. Slayer was an evil sink.

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Because ever since they broke up, everything went to shit. Yeah, absolutely. That is true. That's true. Yeah, think about it. They broke up and Motley Crue got back together, so everything's fucked up. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Totally. Now, are you and Steph, do you listen to metal together? Because, I mean, she came to Decibel. I know she likes some metal. I thought she was more into punk. She is way more into punk. But, yeah, she likes some metal.

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Not as extreme as I go. She does not. She can't stand death metal. Like the newer death metal obituary. She tolerates it though, right? So you got a good woman there. I mean, she, well, she came to the show with you, bro. She came to meet George. Yes, she did. She wanted to meet George. Of course. That's just our thing is like, she'll want to go to a show. I'll go like the Deftones. I know.

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I fucking hate the deftones. Thank you. She loves them. So before that, like we were going to go to the show. I'm like, yeah, I'll just, I'll sit through it. And then she'll do the same thing. Like she would see, uh, the 1349 you want to, who the fuck else was there? That tour. Dude, you owe her like five shows for that, dude. Yes. A hundred percent. And it was like 30 degrees outside and it was an outdoor venue. She,

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suffered through that with me so i definitely order for that one but yeah i find that a very

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interesting experience though going to shows that i don't care about and watching everybody freak

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out over something i don't give a fuck about yeah that's such an interesting experience and it's fine like i

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don't judge them i just like this is what i look like i guess i totally judge them retard but uh yeah so she likes like uh

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Exodus, thrash metal, because I guess it's punkier.

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Yeah.

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I got a new album in the can, by the way. It's supposed to be really good.

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In your can.

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I can't wait.

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Hey, what was the last show you saw before the lockdown?

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That's a good one.

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Oh, that was a good-ass question.

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As if anybody can remember that long ago.

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2020 has been like a fucking decade.

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Yeah, I don't even think we've done that yet.

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Let's go around the room. Let's do it once. Shit, I gotta think about it. Well, I remember because I said it right before. I remember mine, but yeah. Three of ours are the same. Yeah. Okay. They work. That's a really good question. Well, shout it out loud. What was it, Maiden? For the three that were the same? No, back in January at the Adroid Theory anniversary show with Will and John. Oh, that's not what I had. That was in Arma. I saw more shows after that.

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My best friend, King Diamond.

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Well, mine, I have to admit, was Kiss.

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But the one right before that, it was like the week before that was Overkill.

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So those are the last two I saw before we got shut down.

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Yeah, right before everything shut down, I saw Opeth.

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And then a week later, I saw Colt de Luna and Intranaut.

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That's right.

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And I went to the Colt de Luna show and I was like, should I be here?

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Because things are kind of getting fucked up.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Yeah, my last one was Atlas.

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It was on February 28th, last day of February, and it was Vorarm, Etmores, and Astro Void. Okay, so I was completely wrong about that. But that was mine. Honestly, I think my last one was, because I can't remember going to a show in 2020, I think my last one was Decibel Fest in LA. Oh, yeah. I was possessed at that. Was it fucking great? Loud. Oh, cool. Like, holy shit. Like, I guess they were doing a tour, a mini tour, where they were doing out,

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and they did not change the sound at all. Wow. It was loud as shit. They were great, but I could hear them way in the back when they started up. Sure. Yeah. It was good, but it was just loud as shit. I found my last show. It was in October. It's been a year since I've been in Hawaii and I have not seen a show here. It's October 7th, I

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I saw I'm on a marth with my friend the captain and I should have remembered this because I had the flu I was really fucking sick and I went to that show was it the flu collapsed yeah but I had to go because I knew it was going to be my last show before I went to Hawaii and I knew there were going to be a lot of shows here that sounds familiar I feel like I've heard that and then the world came to an end so you are glad I'm glad you went to dude I mean you know it's so strange so odd Tracy was really mad at me for gone to that but

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I mean,

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because you weren't feeling well,

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but no,

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I was sick.

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I had a fever.

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I mean,

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I was really sick.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Super spreader.

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All right.

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Um,

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so Jeff,

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I asked you to do some homework.

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Did you do your homework?

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I did my homework.

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I asked you to do your top five quarantine albums.

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I did that.

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All right.

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Well,

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hit us up.

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Give us five.

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Number five on down.

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Top 5 is, and this is in not any kind of order, I'm going to do Slayer Seasons in the Abyss. That was fucking hard, man. I could not decide what Slayer album I wanted to do. I knew I needed one. Sabaton, The Last Stand. I fucking love that. Behemoth, The Satanist. Chemist's Desolation. And then George, thank you. Woods of Epre, Grey Skies and Electric Light.

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And you just became a lifer on the show. I only know that from this cast. And that is by far one of my favorite albums. Yeah. You know, it's, that jared something in my memory I just want to share fast. And for some reason I'm pointing this at Will, but it's relevant to others too. And it's that Seasons in the Abyss just passed, I think it's 30th anniversary. Yep. Welcome to, and 1990. And Hell Awaites is 35. I mentioned this to you because, um,

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They have some really cool anniversary merch at their website and there's a kick-ass Seasons in the Abyss shirt. That's like yeah, I saw that the other day. Yeah, I was thinking about getting it. Yeah, me too. I thought of you for some reason why I thought that you would love that Seasons in the Abyss shirt. That white one with like just the face and the backwards cross and the back. It's fucking badass. That was my favorite show ever. They're a week in the abyss. That I must have had. Yeah, I must have had that in my brain then. Cool. Well, those are fine choices, Jeff. Very fine choices. Yeah, very good.

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You know, I've never heard of Woodsy E-Pray ever, and I need to explore that. Yes, you do. I'm sure George can put it in the box. It's got Ray and Joel in it, so it's like a super group. Yeah, well, technically, Ray never played on an album. She only, she was going to play live. That's right, yeah, yeah. But Joel was on the last two albums. You know, it's funny, I was thinking about her the other day, too, and it's because somebody did a meme,

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And it had some of the music from the Doom soundtrack. And I remembered that she was on that. Right. Yeah. Yeah. It's kind of industrially. I don't know if you've heard it, but it's pretty fucking heavy. Pretty cool. He gets up and leaves just as I was about to say something to him. Well, instead, I'll ask you, do you remember what she played on that? Was she, what was her primary? On the Doom thing? She sang. See, I can't find any vocals. I played that whole game. I never heard one fucking voice. I don't know. Then maybe I'm wrong, but I thought, I thought she did vocals.

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Okay. So.

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No, you might be right. I mean, I might be in the credits or some weird.

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I'm pretty sure it was mentioned in the episode that she was on, but.

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Yeah, I think you're right.

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Yeah. So, Will, if just because I can't let go of the Woods of Epre, if you like, if you like Thrasenblatt, I would think that you would like at least the last couple Woods of Epre albums because they're not as black. They're doomier.

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Okay. Yeah, I'll check them out.

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So, you know, start with the last one, Grey Sky's Electric Light, and work your way forward or backward from there. All right. So, all right. So, Jeff, we are nearing the end of the year. Do you have any albums that stand out to you as favorites from 2020? Yeah. Night. I don't know if you know that one. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Darkness, Silence, Mirror, Flame. This one, Gorophilia? Yeah, Gorophilia.

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I don't know how you spell that or say that. And the I have nothing. Of course, tombs. Sons of a wanted man. It's pretty cool. Yeah, that's not my list in the mid year. The new hell ripper just came out. Yeah, I'm fucking digging that. Yeah, of course, the new enslaved is incredible. Can't stop listening to that. And then one I found today that came out earlier in the year was cosmic future faction. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

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I made some lists. Yeah, I didn't know about that. That shit's amazing. You said you're a listener, right? I know. You gotta fucking pay attention, Jeff. Apparently not, man. There's just too many. Hey, Will, we don't pay attention to each other. When they're four fucking hours long, it makes it hard, man. Every one of those albums is like a hot dog down the hallway. It's like... It just disappears. It just disappears. You're just kind of like trying to snag them as they come by. You can't grab them all. Yeah.

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You know, speaking of the four hours thing, a friend of mine sent me a text the other day when our new episode came out and it said this. When I see a four-hour Metalheads podcast, I just click in the middle and go with it. That's fantastic. Anyone we know? He was on the show once. Remember the dude's Slab City we had on a few years ago? They were buddies of mine from our practice studio. Kevin. Kevin's his name. Right on. Hey, better than nothing, I guess.

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Yeah, absolutely. I mean, the fact that he was like, yeah, okay, fuck it. Yeah, whatever works. All right. Anybody have any other questions for Jeff before we get rolling? No, I don't personally, but I think also he will. You know, I know you know how this goes, Jeff, but please consider yourself one-seventh part of this right now. So as we move forward, but also perhaps somebody else does have a question. So which is to say, interrupt us as much as you want to say things.

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Let's do a t-shirt and beer check. Let's do that. All right. Well, Jeff, what are you wearing? What are you drinking? I am wearing my gruesome shirt that I actually got from the Decibel Madeline Beer Fest in LA. Nice. I can't remember. They showed up last minute. They replaced somebody, but it was a good, good thing. Then I am drinking the Big Bad Baptist Chocolate Rapture.

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It's delightful. What's the dominant thing there? Is there anything else besides the chocolate? Is there like a cinnamon in it? They always do something cool. Chocolate. Chocolate, coffee, vanilla. Okay. I'll buy that. Tastes like dessert. Nice. Markazan, what about you? I am wearing a question shirt. Wow. I don't know if you can say it. There you go. You went all in on that one, eh? I went all in.

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I love that album and you know we're doing the death metal stuff so yeah had to wear a death metal shirt that's cool it's really good and I'm drinking the Hecate from 2019 brimming horn mead a honey orange mead pretty good noise I can't see it but yeah yeah my stupid background all right Matt or Mr. Tinker Train as he is now in Slavid from

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I'm drinking a Jormungandr's Blood by Hammerheart. It's a rye pale ale. Nice. It's lovely. You know, since you're wearing an enslavet shirt, I want to bring up a discussion we had the other day over Messenger because I just got my new enslaved shirt. And while I already have a Frost one from Decibel Metal and Beer Fest, the logo's

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It's different. Old enslaved is impossible to read by normal humans. But the new one, as Matt can attest with his own shirt, is clearly labeled enslaved. But it's all cool Viking shit and stuff. And I held it up and Barb's like, enslaved? Really? I think you can get away with it. I really do. And I was like, what? And she's like, that's an indoor shirt. You can't wear that outside. That's going to be... No, it won't.

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And I was like, well, I mean, I don't disagree. I'm like, well, it's like with I think it was Will and the Red Before Black thing. I'm like, I could see how, you know, somebody that is not indoctrinated in metal would see that and go, wow, that's that's not appropriate. Possibly. And I'm like, geez. Okay. I mean, it was actually it was and I'm not calling that out only that it was that one didn't work. I mean, because it's a red shirt and it sort of looks like MAGA before. Yeah, that's true.

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I just assumed Will because it was Cannibal Corpse. But yeah, now that you say that, I remember correctly. I was having a very Will day that day that I bought that shirt. Yeah. In any case, I think you can get away with it, Georgie. I wear slave shirts all the time. So I think the Vikings on them will give it away. There you go. That helps. Yeah. Was it the digital tour shirt? Is that what it was, George? Like the virtual tour shirt? No, no, it was. I haven't looked at it. Your average slave shirt. No, yes. Yeah, I had Vikings.

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symbols and stuff on it. It was like a bluish, greenish, reddish thing. I was looking through my shirts the other day and I have way too many these days. I think I have more enslaved shirts than any other band. I've always bought like one. Yeah, I don't know how that happened, but I guess I buy like two when I go because I always have cool designs. This will be no shock that I have way more Thrasenblatt and Woods of Eupree shirts than anything else. Did we get Matt's shirt? We did. It was enslaved. That's how I got on that. Oh, it was enslaved.

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I have to wash it.

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You had it autographed?

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Yeah, remember you and I were in line?

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Yeah, I do.

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I have that same shirt.

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Why would you wear it then?

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Why would you wear it if you were going to wash it?

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He's got his use out of it.

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I'm white trash, George.

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Gotcha, gotcha.

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You've seen the mustache, right?

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Might as well just have him sign your arm and then take a shower, you know?

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All right, John.

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All right, so big surprise. I'm wearing an Opith shirt. However, this is a new shirt. It is a crew shirt, and all the proceeds from the sale of these shirts go to help their crew that would have been on tour with them this year. Nice. So they're not taking a dime. They're giving it to all of their crew members. Very cool. And speaking of Jay having a lot of shirts, I literally could not tell you how many of these I have. I found some from like 15, 20 years ago, and I'm like, what the fuck? Yeah.

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Where did this come from? And I'm drinking. I'm a big fan of this brewery. They're from Northern California. Knee Deep Brewing. It's called Slow Mo. It's 100% mosaic hopped IPA. Nice. You know, one thing I did recently with all my Marine Corps former government t-shirts I've gotten from around the world in every shithole war zone is,

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I got it made into a blanket. I've been wanting to do that. Yeah. I mean, it took a long time and it takes a lot of effort on your part to like cut everything out per the directions and then send it and ship it. And, you know, it took a while, but it's well worth it. So I got a nice blanket out of it that I use every night. Hey, well, that's funny. You should say that TR had a friend who did that for him. He gave her a ton of shirts and she made it this massive like thing that he's got hanging on his wall at home. That's awesome. I wish I would have done it because I just literally tossed like tons of. Yeah.

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Shirts that don't fit me anymore since I'm approaching 50 soon. Or they're worn out or whatever. Could you send us a picture? Would you send us a picture of that? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, I will. I still have all my old shirts. Matt's really into blankets, too. You could probably get a Snuggie, man. Snuggie, yeah. It's awesome. Thought about it. I still have all my old shirts, but I plan to fit into them again at some point, so I may hold off on that. Matt'll be that creepy dude at that kid's youth soccer game sitting there in his little

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It's a black shirt. Kick it. Kick the ball. Yeah. Anyway, Will. I am wearing my death, my white death shirt. It's just the death logo. It's the baseball shirt. So it's in the sleeves. I don't wear this too much because it's not as flattering now that I'm old. Moves. Yeah. But, and I'm drinking, I found this in the grocery store or wherever I found it recently down here.

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which it's hard to come by but smutty nosed finest kind ipa from new hampshire my dad lives up in new hampshire and him and i have been to the smutty nose brewery together and i'm a big fan of smutty nose and it's like i said you know how guys i rail against all these hazy lazy ipa so it's just like a good standard ipa oh hey will you probably can't see us but i can actually can you see how clear that is yeah i know see look at that by the way will your baseball jersey

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That's all I used to have from concert t-shirts from the early 80s. Everything was a baseball jersey. Oh, yeah. Never had one of those. I always thought they were cool, though. Yeah. I had a couple. I had a candle quartz one. I think I've worn it on here. I have some now. Yeah, I have more now than I have. I have an obituary one in this one. I've got the red obituary one. Yeah, the red and black one? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I got a decibel. I didn't get a decibel. I bought it on the internet, but I have it. The interwebs. So I could take part.

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I'm saving mine for the World Series, which is on after I leave this podcast. It's on right now. It's on right now. It's the bomb of the second. I'm taping it. They lost already. Yeah, I mean, Tampa Bay is already up 7-0, so. Bullshit. I wish. You will never know. Until later. So that does not mean I can't go put this back in the fridge, but I thought at least I could play for once. So this is what I've got first for tonight, which is called 11 Lives and Still Wandering, and it is by,

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Fat Orange Cat and Abomination Brewing. And it's a double 8.5, 8.8% double India Pale Ale. So I gotta go put that in a freezer here in about two minutes because it's gonna be cold when I'm ready for it. And I'm wearing my, the graphic on this is a little large, but I think you'll all appreciate the British Steel shirt. Yeah, man. Nice. Yeah, I kind of wish it was just the album, you know, like the album shape, but it's still pretty fucking cool. And, you know. It's a big hand. It's a big fucking hand. So,

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A fun fact, there used to be, they had originally had blood on this, and it was, the album company said, you can't do that. You gotta take that blood off of there. They finally did release it with that album cover. Yes. Yeah. The 30th anniversary. It was on the 30th anniversary. Okay. I did see it somewhere. Yeah. So in any case. Jay, it's eight nothing now, by the way. Are you rooting for somebody, Jay? I feel bad telling John I'm kind of rooting for the Dodgers.

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I'm sorry and moving on

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John is a San Francisco fan well and that's the thing the Dodgers are it's not everybody in northern

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California hates them but that's the problem can't fucking that's the problem yeah but ask a Giants fan and

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they'll tell you straight up fuck them no for sure oh no it was that amount of Israel too yeah so I

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I tend to keep my mouth shut about that. But I'll be happy either way. Whoever throws their hats up, it's fun to see. I want Tampa Bay to win because they won the Stanley Cup. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. But Los Angeles won the basketball. But one of those cities is going to get two titles this year. But here's the thing. Anyone who's ever been to Tampa Bay, when you first go into the city, they have this big sign that says, you know, home of the champions. And you're like, you've won one championship.

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One!

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Now two, of course, but

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Now two, yeah.

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Did Stamkos even play at all, by the way, in the whole thing?

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He was hurt.

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I don't even know.

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I forgot it was on.

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Anyway.

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I didn't watch it either.

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Georgie Boy.

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What are you wearing?

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I'm wearing my Pig Destroyer Decibel 2017 shirt.

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I wanted to wear my death shirt so that I could be like Will and partially like Jeff,

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but it was apparently in the laundry, so.

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I picked up a few things today. The first thing I picked up, it was a collaboration between Pennsylvania Springwater and the people that make chocolate in that same state, a Yingling Hershey's Porter. Wow. Is it good? Not bad. Not bad. And then I picked up something called Ghost Fleet, which,

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Until right before the podcast, I didn't realize I turned it around. It's Vanish, which is like 15 minutes from here. That one's not bad. I just said Ghost Flake. That looks really cool. It's a New England style IPA. I was like, I'll try that. But it wasn't until I got home that I realized it was Vanish. Yeah, it's all right. So I'm going to move on to that. And then I also picked up something called Helltown. Rapture is the name of the beer. It's an IPA. I just thought it was cool because it was called Helltown and it had a little devil tail on it.

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So does New England mean hazy? Pretty much. Yeah, there's varying degrees of it. I think the original New England is supposed to be like, hey, topper, alchemist and stuff like that. So it's not super, super hazy. But they don't do any finding agent and stuff like that. Or filter it. But now hazy is taking on like a whole new,

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They've basically gone to the extreme and now it's like drinking butter. But Will, even before that, when Treehouse was making them just really juicy and cloudy, it still was different than some of the shit that's coming out now, right? Well, yeah. You have a good point there because when Treehouse started doing all that stuff, so yes. Like Treehouse and Trillium were putting out really good stuff. Maybe they, more so than Hetty Topper, are kind of the

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the originators of the New England style. Sort of like what everyone followed. They're good to a point. They taste good. It's pretty juicy. Now it just seems like I literally can't stand drinking them anymore. I never was really that into them and now I'm just sort of like... I'm fed up with them too. I just thought it looked cool. I was like, hey. Look how clear that is. Oh, nice. What is it? Not so clear. Look at this thing.

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I'm gonna drink. Fuck yeah. Is that Hulk Hogan? What is that? That is Hulk Hogan. I got two Hawaii beers I've never had. Hanakoa, Yeah Brother, West Coast, Double. Yeah Brother. He's like the worst wrestler too, which really pisses me off, but that's very cool they did that. This is now one of my go-to ones. That's the doctor. Yeah. The Black Ox or whatever it is. Yeah. That was good too.

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All right, let's get into some news then. We don't have a whole lot this time, but I think this first item may take us a little while. Back on October 6th, Eddie Van Halen left this world. And wow. I mean, I'm about the rest of you, but I didn't see that coming. I mean, I know he hit for years. There was like, oh, he's going to be a little bit more.

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He just kept right on rolling. So when it actually happened, I was pretty shocked. I was more surprised and shocked because it's not uncommon that someone's going to come out of quote-unquote remission and it would spread somewhere else because that's what happened to him. But it was still a surprise because while we kind of sort of knew it was going to happen,

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because everyone started kind of getting real dark like David Lee Roth was dropping all these kind of weird hints like well there's not going to ever be another tour again like oh great what the fuck and yeah and then he would be sort of like you're going to want to find out from Eddie about that or something he would yeah drop some subtle hints it was getting kind of dark so I not to say George that you shouldn't have been shocked I guess I was sort of kind of expecting something at some point it makes sense because he's battled cancer for over a decade so when you first get it

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like, oh no, he's not long for this world. And then he's still around all that time. Right. And so you just sort of. It almost becomes like he's battling it. It's going to be fine or it's going to be in the distant future. Yeah. I don't know. It's just going to drop. Yeah. And what's weird is because like with Bruce, he's out there running around stage still. So, you know, he's actually in a very good spot with his deal. But you didn't see Eddie for a while. Well, like six months before there was that, there was that picture in the news where,

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Some guy is at a show and he does any. It was a tool show. Yeah, the tool show. And he's like, he asked Eddie Van Halen to take his picture. He didn't know who Eddie Van Halen was. And you see Eddie and he looks fine. It was only like six months ago. Yeah. Something like that. And he was, by the way, it was lung cancer that got him in the end, which was revealed by Valerie Bertinelli of all people. But it also spread. How does lung cancer get you in the end? Shouldn't it be in your lungs? No, it's because it spread. It went to his brain. John's right. His brain and other organs. He got hit.

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like hard and fast. Is that right? I mean, it started with the tongue and then, I guess, metastasized or whatever, you know, off it went. But yeah, I mean, well, I mean, okay, so yeah, he's dead. But I mean, I was shocked. I mean, I was shocked. I agree with Sean. Like, I knew it probably wasn't long for this world, which by the way, not to, I have a feeling, but I'll keep my mouth shut because we have a tendency to predict people's deaths here. But I think I know. Who are you trying to kill? No, we're not saying anybody else. I won't. I'll keep my mouth shut.

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But in any case, it was still gobsmacked. I mean, and I will say this. I don't recall. And I have seen them. I'm like, Neil Peart was a big one. But Eddie Van Halen, everybody in my Facebook feed, it just was every post was Van Halen, Van Halen, Van Halen for like that whole next two days. Yeah. Nobody was like, here's the sandwich I had for lunch. You know, it was like. People are still releasing statements. You know, Jay, I was thinking about that actually.

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just a few minutes ago and only three times I think my feed was completely full

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in like say the last five years was for Bowie.

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Oh, right.

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For Neil Peart and then Eddie Van Halen.

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Where like literally everyone I knew to some degree was posting something.

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Had something to say about it.

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Something to say.

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And I'll probably had something by them that they liked or whatever.

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I even had friends who didn't like them say, oh man, I feel bad for my friends who were fans of this.

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Whoever, you know, so.

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Jeff, did you like any Van Halen?

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Yeah, I respect Ben Halen as a guitarist, but I never got into Ben Halen. Yeah, it's a little before your time. You know, after he died, one of the things I, you know, you read all these articles, I had no idea that him and his brother were half Indonesian. No idea. You can see it in Alex. He's more of Alex, yeah. And they were Dutch too. Indonesian. Yeah, yeah.

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The Dutch thing that showed up in my YouTube something blah blah blah was them on a Dutch television show when Twister came out. They did a song on Twister, that movie. And it was so funny to listen to them speak Dutch. And I just sat and watched this. I don't know what the fuck they were saying, but I watched a five-minute interview where they just talked Dutch and it was just so hilarious, you know. Wow, the Dutch occupied Indonesian for a long time, actually. Oh, is that true? Oh, yeah. Okay. Hence the... Well, so one other thing, of course, that must be

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It was fucking Eddie Van Halen, dude. I mean, it really was like the most amazing fucking guitarist. He changed guitar playing as we know it. Period. Period. Exclamation point. Parentheses, yes. Two funny stories that I learned, and I'm sure you guys have heard the Gene Simmons one, where Gene Simmons was like their early producer. We talked about this a little bit. And Gene Simmons wanted them to change their name to Daddy Longlegs, and they refused. He got all pissed off, and he dropped them from

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whatever record label he was working for or with.

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And then the second one was that I guess Van Halen was the opening.

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I guess they were opening for Ted Nugent.

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It was like a long, long, long time ago.

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And so Ted Nugent comes up to him and he's like,

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look at this little punk kid, Eddie Van Halen.

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And he's like, you know, show me the magic box.

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And he's like, what are you talking about?

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He's like, the magic box.

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You know, how you do like what guitar pedals and stuff you're using

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to get all those sounds out.

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And he's like, I don't know what the fuck you're talking about. He's like, oh, yeah, yeah, whatever. He's like, so pick up my, use my guitar. So Eddie Van Halen picks up Ted Newsy guitar and does like all the trombella, like the finger picking and stuff like that. And then, yeah, the finger tapping. And I guess Ted Newsy just walks away as like a fucking punk kid asshole. Sounds like Ted. Yeah. It was just, it was just funny how like you just completely like, well, couldn't believe that that was actually a new asshole. So, well,

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Well, to follow that up, I don't know if you guys have heard the legend of Beat It yet. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. So rumor has it, and Jay and I were talking about this, and we got George likes to beat it. Yeah. Yes. Okay, so the other legend of Beat It. I'm not going to lie. So when he went in to record his parts for the song, supposedly he showed up with just his guitar and no equipment. Literally nothing. He just showed up with his guitar and plugged in.

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was able to replicate all his sounds and apparently laid down all his parts within a half an hour and that was it he was done completely done you know and there's a pretty good steve luca fair i don't know if you guys know who he is totally oh sure yeah he's one of the main guys from the band toto he actually was called in to work on that and he was only i think 22 or 23 at that time i can't remember maybe he's a little older but to hear him talk about those sessions it's pretty pretty wild

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everything they did to get that song done. And that was to be an R&B song, you know, and they went with a rock song and it just played across every radio station, every genre. So, you know, speaking of like pop culture, stuff like that, John, I saw somebody in an airport and this has been a few years back now, ran a daddy and was like, hey, man, I've always wanted to ask you. And I'm sure you guys like you'll be like, of course, dude. But I've always wondered. I didn't know for sure. And anyway, the guy asked them, is that you?

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in Back to the Future, when he puts the headphones on that guy, on his dad in bed, and is like, I'm from the future and all that, and Eddie was like, yeah, it's me, I was just jerking around and stuff, and they asked him to do that, so that is Eddie playing on that. You know, you guys know the scene I'm talking about in Back to the Future? Yeah. Yes. From a personal memories perspective, the first one that I personally had, and I hope some of you guys will chime in too, was Fair Warning. I was just totally a hard rock, heavy metal kid, and Van Halen was in all the magazines I read, and I didn't really know much about

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So I went out and bought their latest album, which at the time was Fair Warning. And of course, the first thing you hear on that is Mean Streets. And I was just like, this is the fucking greatest fucking thing ever, dude. Then I went back and got the other ones. And then, and was a big, big fan for quite a while. And then Diver Down came on. I liked Diver Down. That was the last one I was really kind of into. I thought 1984 was a bit of a step off. I think the keyboard's gonna. Yeah, the keyboards, man. God, the 80s sucked. But he, I mean, the guy always had a smile on his face. I dare you to find a picture where he's not fucking,

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smiling and he was such a natural one thing that was just posted online recently too was um i don't know if you guys remember but valerie bertinelli was the guest host on snl one time in the 80s and he and eddie was just there so he's like i'll sit in with the band and he plays this amazing fucking just like blues thing with the band but but he's eddie through the whole thing and it's just and somebody just reposted that it's fucking amazing dude the guy was insane it was so good do you have a favorite van halen song me personally

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I made a list.

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Anyone.

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Yeah.

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Just in case.

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Just in case.

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Yeah.

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Well, John and I were talking about it offline and I, and it's funny cause those

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are all the heavy ones, John.

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And those are the ones that, and I agree with you.

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Like I'm the one, Atomic Punk, Mean Streets, actually the whole Fair Warning album, quite

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frankly, Mean Streets, Little Guitars off of Diver Down, Hang Them High off Diver Down.

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I don't know.

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Somebody else starts shouting some shit out.

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Oh, and Atomic Punk all the way.

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Yeah.

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That's a fucking kick-ass song.

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So, Jay, I don't know when I sent you that link. So I've been going down a rabbit hole for just guitar tracks. And I don't know, Jay, if I sent the link I sent you for Atomic Punk. Did I also have the text attached to it where I wrote Tom Morello before Tom Morello even existed? Yeah, you did. When you go back and listen to just the guitar track, he's doing all that shit. What, 20-some years before, you know, when Tom Morello got all his praise? Oh, he makes all these great squeaks and squawks on his guitar. It's like, dude, this has been done already.

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And he used nothing. It was just his pick and his guitar. He didn't have anything else going on.

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You know, there's that that reminds me of two things. One is there's another clip on YouTube where and I had seen this years ago before he died, but it was and he was it was some interview backstage. And it was, I think, in the Van Hagar time. And he, of course, that he's got his guitar and he's just standing there. He's like, oh, let me show you all these different sounds I can make. He just like he does it like a perfect horse, you know, like anyway, that.

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And what John's talking about is John has sent me a bunch of and has been enjoying himself a bunch of things on YouTube you can find where it's isolated tracks where it's just Eddie. So it's like the actual like I'm the one just that just the guitar from that and it's mind boggling to listen to. Yeah. So for me just to jump in because I know we like to make fun of me being old but this is one time I can say it paid to be old.

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hearing Van Halen, the first album when I was 10 for the first time ever. Somebody just got it when it came out. And I was at, I went to school in San Francisco, but we lived in a different city. So I had to go to a babysitter's house before my mom got off work. So I would go from school to this woman's house. There was a bunch of kids from the school would go there. And I remember sitting in the kitchen and her high school sons came in and they're like, fuck yeah, man, this is going to be fucking badass. And I'm like, wow, what's going on here? And then you hear it start. I'm like, okay, I don't understand music, but what am I learning?

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listening to it. And I sat there the whole time and listened to the whole album. I was just blown away as a kid. So it was fucking 78, you know, and compared to everything else, it still sounds like it's from another planet. I mean, it really does. It's just like, it doesn't sound like anything. But I've had such a love hate relationship with the band because I hate their hijinks on stage. And I hate David Lee Roth doing so much vaudeville. And I'm like, you have this great guitarist and a good backup band on the other instruments. And he's running around and doing stupid. Is he too homoerotic for you? No.

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It was stupid.

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There's no such thing as that after being on here.

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Yeah, exactly.

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If anything, he was pretty hetero.

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Wow.

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It just used to drive me nuts how he would just goof around on stage so much.

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And I'm like, I want to hear these guys play because they're so good.

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But by the way, one of the other offshoots of our conversation, John and I, and this is neither here nor there, but Alex is actually a really fucking good drummer too.

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You know, you don't, that's, he's in the worst band in the world to, to have anybody notice that, you know what I mean? Because he's, he played basically the world's greatest guitar player, but. You can hear it hot for teacher. Hot for teacher. Yeah. Well, actually, you know what? I'm sorry, Jay, I'll cut you off. I just like, so I'm thinking of this. Actually, if you go back and listen to these isolated guitar tracks, you realize how good Michael Anthony and Alex Van Halen were because one thing about Eddie's playing, which I don't know if most people know this,

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He's probably, in my opinion, he's the best rock rhythm guitarist ever. He literally is a better rhythm guitarist than he is a soloist at times because when you listen to him, you're like, he's doing so much in the song. He's my favorite keyboard player. The thing is, George, he actually has a trained piano. I know. I'm not being sarcastic. He is my favorite keyboard player. Alex was a guitarist and he was a drummer. Yeah, I know.

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But you realize how good they were creating a sound because like I think the first one I said to Jay was hot for teacher and you listen you hear all these really cool things that he does and it gets then he when he gets to those kind of quieter parts when Dave's doing the talking you know I got my pencil and all that shit you realize that the band really makes up the rest of the sound and I would suggest anyone who wants to at least just hear a couple songs you don't realize how good of a rhythm player he was.

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Well, especially since, like, if this is the rhythm guitar track, and I'm making it a straight line, he would so seamlessly go back and forth from it and come at the weirdest times, too. He was a lead rhythm guitarist. If you think it's strange to hear that, but it's... So I would also recommend, like, Little Guitars, I think, is the perfect example of that. That is just one big long guitar solo, kind of. But also, it's funny, there's a pretty good interview for anybody who's maybe would like to know a little bit more about him. He was at the Smithsonian Institution.

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Institute for some reason, just a couple of years back. And they did a nice long interview with him. He had his guitar there. He did a lot of stuff. And then he answered these great questions like, what was it like to go to school for the first time when you moved here to America? And he, I won't even tell you his answer. It's such a good answer. But, um, they said to him to, to, he answered two questions that really moved that were kind of moving to me. And one of them was, this one's less moving, but he said, if, and this was questions from the audience. And somebody said, if you could go back, um, or start over again,

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like, let's pretend you started now. What would you, what instrument would you choose to play? And this is exactly what he said. And he was serious. He said, I would probably start with the drums and switch to guitar again. That was great. And then they said, and this, I love this answer because it was so genuine. And they said, if you could play with any musician who has died, who would it be? You know, and everybody's waiting to hear him say Hendrix or whatever. And he sat there and he was really thoughtful about it. And he goes, you know what? I'd love to jam with my dad again. That was such a good answer, dude. And he meant it. Like, you could just see,

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He's not playing a game. He's just like, that was the first guy he thought of. For those of you who don't know, his dad played wind instruments like clarinet and saxophone and probably other things besides. Now, one more thing, and that is that he was a classically trained pianist, but he couldn't read music. He learned to play piano by watching his teacher's fingers, and then he just pretended he knew how to read music. That just tells you it just was in his DNA. He was a genius, and he never learned to read music in his whole life. I didn't know what fucking key he was.

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You know, you know, and he's, he literally, I don't know if you guys know this, he literally, probably till his last days, still, I don't think ever found the tone he was looking for. He was constantly searching for tone. Still haven't found the tone he's looking for. By the way, the Smithsonian covers that, by the way, John, a lot of the electronics that he innovated. So that's what's worth watching for that reason. So that was one of the things, go ahead, John, because there was one other thing I wanted to share. I was gonna say, I don't know if you guys know who, I think his name is Rick Beto.

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You know who that is on YouTube? He's a producer, engineer, stuff, and he just released something called the brown note, which apparently is a famous Eddie sound. If you guys are interested in getting the more technical side. The brown sound. Yeah. And how he basically was just changing the volume on his amp to get to the right sound. It was nothing else more than just that. But he did. So that's what here's what he did. He created something called there's there was something, an old thing called the variac and a variac was something. Yeah. Yeah. So what it does now,

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It wasn't an actual thing that they sell for guitars, but at the time it wasn't. And what it does was it allowed him to completely push all of the electricity through the amplifier at its maximum volume. And then he basically created a master volume to turn it down. Yeah. So that's a circus for maxing out and signing kick ass, but he wasn't killing people with his Marshall. Yeah. Those old Marshall plexes will fucking knock a horse down, dude. You know? Yeah. And that's literally all he did. He didn't have, he didn't multitrack a lot of stuff. He didn't have a ton of boards and pedals.

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and shit. It's just pure talent.

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Yeah.

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Oh, I know what I was going to mention. Just two things, and these are worth noting.

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And one was that apparently, according to what I read, they were actually had approached Michael Anthony at long last about doing a reunion.

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So that was going to happen. Of course, he died.

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And second, he was talking with Sammy Hagar and stuff towards the end, which is nice because that there was a terrible riff there for a while.

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So it's nice they made up before.

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Did you hear how that happened?

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Wait, wait, just back up.

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Did Michael Anthony die?

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No, before Eddie died. Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah, and for a long time, people were like, they all thought that was real shitty, you know, that they wouldn't have him back, and Eddie even said some shitty things about him, but in the end, apparently, they were going to try to do one final tour with all of the original four. Yeah, apparently, Sammy had had enough and finally just called him. Yep. About, I don't know, maybe six, seven months ago. January. And Eddie said what, and Eddie was like, what took you so long? What took you so long? He says, well, yeah, I didn't think you wanted to talk to me. He says, yeah, it's because you probably went to

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my brother or he went to management he should have just called me yeah so it just that's part of my love hate relationship was all the trauma with them yeah they were kind of it seemed like it was real wasn't real it was real wasn't real and i don't know well staring death down the barrel will change a lot of things for you of course and um and and so it's nice they made it up and um and the saddest part about that story is apparently they texted quite a bit then from then on and talked on the phone but one day the text stopped coming and it was like yeah it's

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And it wasn't the day died. It was like, you know, because when the cancer takes you, you're pretty much shut down for the last week or something, you know. Yeah, said. Anyway, farewell, you know. We learned that Sebastian Bach apparently was approached by Van Halen, which wouldn't it just be that kind of guy to jump in and throw his hat in the ring, you know, now after everything's happened. Dickhead. Sammy Hagar was my guy. I mean, it's interesting you guys talk about how you like the early stuff because I really didn't get into them until OU812 and For Unlawful.

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I like I like I like those I was that's the first time I ever saw them was they played J.N.

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They played the Cow Palace in Daly City which literally the Cow Palace on the corner if you cross the street at San Francisco and they that's a home show basically for Sammy Hagar and they opened up with the song good enough where he comes out and yells hello baby and I've never ever been in a crowd like that for anyone I don't care what metal band it was that was the craziest show I've ever seen in my life because back then it was general

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on the floor. Some guy tried to punch me in the face. I think somebody peed on me during the show. I mean, it was fucking insane. I've never been around anything like that. Sounds like the Metalheads podcast. Yeah, but it's just the three of us, and that's what makes it crazier when we're in studio, you know? What was the height of them? I think 5150 is probably their highest selling record. I'll find out. So honestly, believe it or not, I think it was the Van Hagar stuff was bigger, but I'll look it up. I think they sold

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with him, but Marcus, like you're asking, what was their highest peak? Yeah. I'm going to say it's not their best, but probably 1984 because of MTV. Yep. Well, that's how I remember from the videos were everywhere for Van Halen. Yeah. Um, I think, yeah, Hagar's my guy for, for Van Halen, but I do, I love that song jump. I don't, I just love it. Well, that was my first song. I mean, I remember in being, being in school,

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in the 80s.

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And you would, you know, the old VH logo with the wings.

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Oh, yeah.

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You would see that like inscribed in desks, on lockers, on books.

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And I was like, what that, you know, and I didn't know what it is.

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And I had to ask somebody.

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On your peachy.

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Do you guys remember peachies?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Jay knows what I'm talking about.

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Yeah, for sure.

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And, you know, I had to ask somebody and they were like,

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I was Van Halen, man. And then I remember seeing Van Halen t-shirts, mostly baseball jersey shirts that said Van Halen and stuff. And so I went out to the store and I said, I'm going to pick me up some Van Halen. And it just happened to be in the year 1984. And so that was the latest album. And I was like, that's cool. A little cherub smoking there. And so I picked that up and that was my first Van Halen album.

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So I've got some hot information for you here, hot off the presses, and John was of course right on the money. 5150 sold 6 million copies, though it was probably like their first number one or something, whatever, doesn't matter. 1984 is diamond certified, which means it sold 10 million copies. They have one other album that's diamond certified. If you try hard enough, I'm sure you can guess what it is. Van Halen 3. For Unlawful, probably. That was a big album.

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Let's just appreciate what John said there for a minute. No, Will is right. And it's because of, you know, it was the one, the very first album. Yeah, first album is, yeah. Sold 10 million copies, so. Do you know what their worth selling David Lee Roth album is? Probably Women and Children First. The last one. Either two or Women and Children First. No. No, really? Fair Warning. Oh, that's a shame. And if you ask hardcore fans, I mean, hardcore fans, they all say Fair Warning is their favorite album. It's their favorite one, yeah.

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And it is their best album. I think so too. Yeah, there's no bullshit on that record, dude. None. And it has the best 43 seconds ever to open up an album. Ever. Which, by the way, I don't know if you know this, you guys may not know this kind of detail, but at the end of Women and Children First, in a simple rhyme, which is like their prog song, which is really kind of funny, if you have, depending on what version of the cut you have on that album, the song ends and it fades, and then there's a little bit

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the very end, which is just this real heavy kind of riffy thing that goes on for about 15 seconds. I don't know if you guys have that album. If you go back and listen to it, that apparently was supposed to be, it was supposed to stop and it was supposed to start again on fair warning. I did that on purpose. And I think when I saw them, uh, they actually did that too before they actually started good enough. I could be wrong, but they used to play that very end of that song all the time to start shows because they would come out and run around and dance.

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If we love you, wow! Then he'd jump up in the air and do all this crazy shit. It's on my version. I just checked it on my digital version. Yeah, at the very end. Okay. I don't know if you guys know this, most of that stuff they wrote, half of it was written back in like 1973, 74, 75, 76. Which is the other thing I want to recommend. So the isolated guitar tracks, the other one is go to YouTube and you can listen to the Gene Simmons demos, which almost come off as new wave of British heavy metal stuff, like

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It's funny, those demos were at the end, because there's other stuff that's out. There's tons of stuff out there. Sure, yeah. And Ted Templeton came in and changed everything. Did he produce everything they ever did? Not everything, I realize. No, but he's the early stuff. And originally, they wanted to open up Van Halen 1 with House of Pain.

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which they didn't release until 1984. But that demo, and the demo tells the tale. The demo tells the tale. That House of Pain, that siren sound at the beginning of Running with the Devil is actually House of Pain. At the end. The end of House of Pain, yeah. Running with the Devil actually starts at the bass part, but Ted Templeton liked the horn so much, but he didn't like House of Pain, apparently. Yeah. He made the right choice as far as an album opener. I like House of Pain a lot, but I could see how that was more effective. The original House of Pain, I think, is better than the

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the 1984 version personally. Definitely. No, I'll buy that. I like that. There's a rap group called House of Pain and they did a song called Jump. Yeah. It's freaking me out a little bit now. Now you got to go look and see if they're Van Halen fans. I mean, wow, that's really interesting. Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised at all. Yeah. Shamrocks and shenanigans. Indeed. Sounds like David Lee Roth. Well, let's all just agree. I think I know John and I have. Sorry, we didn't talk too much about.

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No, we both did, John, but it's because I think we both care a lot. And it's not that nobody else here does, but I think we all recognize the man was a monster talent. And the guy, he just had, you put it perfectly, John, he had it in his DNA. There was just something wrong with him. He looked so relaxed when he did the most amazing things. So weird, man. Another weird milestone in this bullshit fucking year of a year. Yeah. To your point, Jay. Oh, I'm sorry, George, go ahead. No, no, you go. Two things. I was going to say, the one thing I always think of when I think of Eddie Van Halen is,

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Watching him solo, it looked so effortless. He looked like, you know, I mean, as someone who has played guitar and tried to do a solo, but my fingers are too short and fat to watch someone do such amazing things. It was like, wow. Secondly, to something John said, in all my years of going to concerts, I've never thought about peeing on someone. Honestly, I feel like when the world opens up again, I'm probably going to piss on someone. So when we're thinking about that show, we lost, it was like, I don't know, five or six of

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And we lost a guy and we found him back at the car because he drove and he had some beat up shitty station wagon which just it's just perfect for tailgating at a show in the 80s and he was freezing. I'm like what is your problem because dude I'm freezing. I'm my jacket soaking wet. I'm like how could your jacket be soaking wet. It's perfect out tonight. He apparently got so smashed up and couldn't get out of the cluster of people who's in on the floor that he was sweating so much. His jacket completely became like a wet blanket on his

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And he had to leave when he got a chance to get out because he was freezing.

01:14:33.240 --> 01:14:33.980
I've been there too.

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In a place of 15,000 people where, you know, you're like, I gotta take layers off. It's so fucking hot in here.

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You know, so.

01:14:41.180 --> 01:14:43.740
So actually, I do have to add one more memory.

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And it's because it's the other perfect fast times at Ridgemont High band, like the band to see.

01:14:47.940 --> 01:14:50.180
And I saw my senior year in high school on the OU8 one too.

01:14:50.420 --> 01:14:53.140
And we went and skipped school that day.

01:14:53.300 --> 01:14:55.740
Went and got drunk all day long at a friend's house, which was a huge mistake.

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Because I, you know, now I could do that.

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But back then, I was still, I probably drank once a week or something. And I just remember watching, I had such a fucking terrible headache at the show. But it was so good. It was so good. And they were great. And it was weird to be in the room with these sort of rock gods, you know? Yeah. So if we ever do shows we wish we went to, as a top five, I would be down because Van Halen's definitely one of them. How about that? I could have went to the Fair Morning Tour, but I was just one year too young to see. I think, John, I think, and I assume that would have been in Oakland.

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Yeah, it's on YouTube. It's hear about it later. So this is love and unchained. And there's a part where during the beginning of So This Is Love, David Lee Ross says, I got myself a brand new Oakland scarf right here. And every time I hear that, I'm like, motherfucker, I should have been at that show. I've watched that video. Hey, let me ask you, Maryland guys, a question really quick. And this is not Van Halen related, though. It might be. I'm the only Maryland guy. Close enough. There's there.

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There is a lot of bootlegs that I have watched over the years, and honestly, there's a really quality Van Halen one, are from a place called Fargo in Maryland. No, Largo. Largo. Largo. Is that like the easiest place to fucking bootleg a show or something? I'm not joking. That same guy also bootleg. I was on the Fair Warning Tour in 82. He also bootlegged the Baltimore show, and they're outstanding. I've seen so many Largo bootlegs. It's insane. Oh, yeah. I think it's the same guy.

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It has to be

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You guys have obviously been to shows there and stuff, right?

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I've

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I can't tell you how many shows I've seen

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I don't know if you've been there, George

01:16:33.480 --> 01:16:35.240
I saw Rush there and Test for Echo

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I saw Kiss there

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Is it still you guys have called something else now you said?

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I think it was the CMCI Center, wasn't it, George?

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And you're not talking about like Verizon?

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No, no, no, no, no

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Out in Maryland, out in Largo

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They used to be called the Bullets

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You know, remember?

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Yeah, no, I've never been there

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Oh, yeah, they used to have the

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They had the decibel meter in there, and you would start cheering, and the meter would go up, and once it got to like 140, you're like, man, my ear is really fucking hard. I'm in trouble, yeah. Well, so my theory, John, is it was some guy who worked for security there or something, because somebody, there's so many Largo things. Yeah. I don't know who it is, but whoever was there was recording a lot of shows for a lot of bands. Cool. As I mentioned earlier, my first show was David Lee Roth, but I did get to see Van Halen

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three-fourths of them anyway, when they did their reunion tour, like Dave's first tour, and possibly only tour back. How was that? Did you like it? It was pretty good. I mean, Dave sounded kind of like shit. But the best of the band sounded good, though, didn't they? Yeah, yeah. I mean, Wolfgang was there. He's actually not a bad bass player, actually. No, he's good. He's actually pretty good. So I'm glad I got to see Eddie at least once. So you got, they pulled out a ton of songs on that tour they hadn't done in years.

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I didn't go but I've seen that set list John and I was like I should have gone to that

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and I didn't go because I was pissed at what they did to Michael Anthony

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I was like had it been more

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amicable I would have gone I was just like fuck

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I'm pissed

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there's no end to footage you can watch

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yeah but yeah Dave sounds like shit on that tour

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he always sounds like shit live

01:18:16.100 --> 01:18:16.820
what am I saying

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yeah he sounds like shit on the fair warning tour

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I mean I thought he sounded okay the first time I saw him

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but it was my first show so what do I know

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Was that when he was just a gigolo? It was, you know, Eat Him and Smile, so right after that. I'm sure he played that. Alright, shall we move on? Yeah, let's move on to something way more metal. Yeah, I have, like, literally nothing to say about this. Yeah, I just put this on here because we were talking about it the other day. I thought it was funny. And because there were no other real news items that seemed worth talking about. I mean, there was a good takeaway. I mean, we learned that Matt can't

01:18:54.780 --> 01:18:56.060
because of his chubby fingers.

01:18:58.860 --> 01:19:00.280
I've lived with this for years.

01:19:01.160 --> 01:19:02.820
I mean, I might have to start calling you

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Matt Sausage Finger Stewart.

01:19:05.760 --> 01:19:06.960
There's a PSA on YouTube.

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Check it out.

01:19:10.740 --> 01:19:14.660
Well, you'd be perfect for the Hansel and Gretel story.

01:19:16.620 --> 01:19:17.260
Where'd Will go?

01:19:18.520 --> 01:19:20.040
I got tired of talking about Van Halen.

01:19:20.080 --> 01:19:21.460
Yeah, maybe I'll do some kid thing or something.

01:19:21.640 --> 01:19:22.060
Yeah, probably.

01:19:23.060 --> 01:19:23.360
All right.

01:19:23.500 --> 01:19:53.380
So our next and last news item is that Miley Cyrus is working on a Metallica cover album. Okay. Yeah. She's just trying to capitalize on the Lady Gaga shit. Yeah. All she's fucking doing. Because Lady Gaga played with them? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I don't care if a pop star suddenly wants to cover a former metal band because she's restless. I'm not going to listen to this. Yeah.

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Actually, that new song she did was kind of cool because she ripped off Stevie Nicks, Edge of 17. She's a good singer. I mean, honestly, God, all other things aside, she's got a set of pipes, but that doesn't apply necessarily to what she's doing. That's no stamp of approval on this. AJ, so does Adele, but she's not doing a Metallica cover album. Yeah. I saw it. You know what? It might be the best Metallica album in the last like years.

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So I saw Miley on the Tonight Show and she was doing this new song. I don't remember what it's called. Is she clothed? Yeah, actually, for a change. And I'm listening to this song and I look over Barb and I'm like, this is so like Stevie Nicks or maybe she said it to me first, probably. But we were both like, yeah, that's so Edge of 17. And then afterwards, you know, I'm like, ah, she's ripping that shit off. She's going to get sued. And then afterwards, she's like, yeah, I called Stevie Nicks and said, hey, can I do this?

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of your song.

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And so she got permission.

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So I guess I can't bitch.

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And it wasn't bad.

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It was more of a rock song.

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Did you see the commercial for this,

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the end of this viral video?

01:21:06.180 --> 01:21:07.560
Did you see this viral video of the guy

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listening to Fleetwood Mac and not a skateboard?

01:21:09.720 --> 01:21:09.860
Yeah.

01:21:10.720 --> 01:21:11.840
I want that out of fall.

01:21:13.900 --> 01:21:14.300
Well, they did,

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but they did a really kind of sweet commercial

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in which they,

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where they interspersed that with like Mick Fleetwood

01:21:19.600 --> 01:21:20.760
and Stevie Nicks,

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like real,

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like now footage from today.

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And I thought,

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Yeah, of course they're jumping on. They want to ride that gravy train some more. Sure. Well, I'm sure they got money for the commercial and everything else. Yeah. I hope he did, though. I hope he got some money for the commercial. He got a brand new truck from whoever, GMC. He's getting all kinds of stuff, isn't he, because of that one? And he's got an agent now. Yeah. He does. He does. It just lit up like half the time when he's doing these videos. Well, he's not going to have any urinary tract infections anytime soon. That's good. Yeah.

01:22:22.580 --> 01:22:23.640
Good for him.

01:22:26.940 --> 01:22:28.760
I thought we were talking about cat stare for a second.

01:22:29.220 --> 01:22:31.060
No, isn't that the thing? That's what you're supposed to take.

01:22:31.200 --> 01:22:33.160
At least that's what my girlfriend in high school told me.

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You get on urinary, UTIs all of a sudden.

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It's time to move on into releases.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, Marcus.

01:22:43.640 --> 01:22:44.080
Thank you.

01:22:45.420 --> 01:22:46.220
Downhill fast.

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All right. And so our first new release is the new Annal Nathraq album, Endarkment. It's their 11th album. They're a UK black grind band. And I've been a fan of them since Vanitas, I think it was called. That was the first time they kind of got on my radar.

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I really like this. I've read some mediocre reviews of it saying that it's sort of paint by numbers and all with rock, but I don't care. I like it. It's possibly slightly more accessible. If we did the list of the top five things George told me about that I love, blah, blah, blah, this would have been on it if I had discovered it before we did that list. George has talked about these guys for years. I've never listened to them. We got the demo for this. I put it a promo for this. I put it in and I fucking love it, dude.

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I think this is a great record. There's no way this is not on my year-end list. No way. You jumped on board, didn't you, Jay? Didn't you pick up? Yeah, yes, I did. You probably saw that on Bandcamp. I'll be honest with you. I like this one better than the older stuff, so that's interesting about the Paint By Numbers thing, George, because this one has, of the albums I've thus far purchased, this has the least industrial element to it. It's just a straight-up metal record, and there is most definitely some industrial element to some of those ones, but they're also good. And also, by the way, the clean, is it one guy? It's two singers, I take it, right? It's not one

01:24:15.420 --> 01:24:16.100
I do in both voices.

01:24:17.980 --> 01:24:18.880
No, I think it is.

01:24:19.280 --> 01:24:19.900
It's the one guy.

01:24:20.460 --> 01:24:21.000
No shit.

01:24:21.040 --> 01:24:24.740
Yeah, it's like the one guy does the music, the one guy, Dave Hunt is the singer, and he does the vocals.

01:24:25.280 --> 01:24:25.840
Oh, I didn't know.

01:24:26.020 --> 01:24:27.000
Well, that's even more impressive.

01:24:27.460 --> 01:24:31.000
Does he not, from time to time, call Matt Barlow to mind?

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Keep that in mind next time you listen.

01:24:34.160 --> 01:24:34.600
You'll hear it.

01:24:34.720 --> 01:24:39.440
There's a little bit of it in there on the new one, and I cannot put my stamp of approval in the other.

01:24:39.560 --> 01:24:40.940
So I like everything I bought.

01:24:41.180 --> 01:24:41.600
I love it.

01:24:41.740 --> 01:24:43.780
I feel foolish for not having that.

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And I ordered it on vinyl.

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I should have it soon. So I have a question. Go ahead. Well, I was gonna say I have a question. I've never really listened to Anomath Rock. It just never really been on my radar or anything. So I listened. We got the promo. I listened to it. And as soon as they went into like that, the clean, the clean stuff, I turned it right off. But my question is, is that something they've always done? Yeah, I think so. I mean, I haven't listened to the early stuff in a while, but it's definitely been at least in the last four or five albums.

01:25:14.280 --> 01:25:16.480
But I think to different degrees though, George.

01:25:16.750 --> 01:25:23.240
Yeah, well, this one is definitely, like I said, I think a little more accessible in that the cleans are a little cleaner.

01:25:24.080 --> 01:25:26.440
And it might be that that's the paint by numbers thing they're talking about too.

01:25:26.610 --> 01:25:32.960
Because by the way, this one also has a much more, the structure is very much harsh, harsh, harsh, harsh, totally approachable.

01:25:33.180 --> 01:25:41.860
Yeah, well, and that's something I was going to say actually, because I haven't read any reviews, but I kind of get the paint by numbers part of it.

01:25:41.940 --> 01:26:11.040
Because when I listen to it, I want to like it, but I get fatigued by it. It feels too repetitious to me, or there's just not a lot that stands out to me in the album for some reason. So I haven't really listened to it all the way through because of that. It probably helps that it's the first one I listen to. Second, I did have a question. Do they have a full, complete band? Because I only see pictures of two guys. And is it a drum machine, or is it a drummer? You guys know?

01:26:11.320 --> 01:26:40.420
I've seen them live. They do. I mean, they have a, you know, live, quote unquote, live band, but they, I feel like they come across as just the two. What was the circumstance you saw them? Were they like headlining or were there with somebody else? It was at Falken. They were on the, uh, you may have been there. Yeah. I don't know if you went and saw them, but, uh, they were at MDF, uh, in the parking lot in the Edison. Oh shit. No, I may have been the only one that cared enough to, to actually go see them, but maybe so. Yeah. You did disappear a couple of times.

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Yeah, really. Speaking of the paint by numbers, I believe there is a PDF where you can download in paint by numbers the uncensored cover to FYI. Yeah, that is quite a cover. It'll be better. It'll be better than the actual cover. It's a little rough. I ordered the vinyl and it was vinyl t-shirt packages and I was like, I'm not wearing that fucking shirt so you can just hold on to that. I'll save a couple bucks. Yeah. All right.

01:27:11.320 --> 01:27:40.500
So the next album, I have an actually related story about this. The next album is Benediction. This is their eighth album called Scriptures. I haven't listened to them in a long time, and I did a little history digging. Their very first album had Barney from Napalm Death, before he was in Napalm Death. And then Dave Ingram,

01:27:41.320 --> 01:28:10.600
Was their singer for a while. And then he left. And he did a bolt thrower album. And he does like Down Amongst the Dead Men, I think. And some other projects. And then Dave Ingram just came back for this new album. But the two albums between when Dave Ingram left and came back were the vocals were done by Dave Hunt from Anonymous Rock. Which I was like, what?

01:28:11.320 --> 01:28:40.300
Because, you know, it does not sound like an almost rock. No, no, no. It's cool. I like it. I think it's a good record. Yeah, and yeah, to the point, I listened to this and thought it was really good. It was maybe the Scribs or whatever. I went through this and went through all the albums that you loaded, and Benediction is by far one of my favorite ones that's on here.

01:28:41.320 --> 01:29:10.840
And somehow they are another one that escaped my notice. Sure. Well, they haven't been around in a while. Yeah, that's doable. And this shit, I've listened to it probably at least two or three times every day. All the people at work think I'm insane right now. I feel like a spoiler because this one kind of sounds middle of the road to me. I agree with you, Mark. I'm not going to have to listen to it again, though, because, I mean, both these albums I will listen to again because you've seen.

01:29:11.320 --> 01:29:15.120
Everybody here seems to really like them. Well, I think George and I were a little more medium on the

01:29:15.260 --> 01:29:40.400
benediction with all due respect, but now. No, I mean, I, well, it's good. I can't promise that it'll be on my list, but I dig it. I mean, I like Dave Ingram. So, dude, by the way, before we go any further here, look at this fucking list of records, dude. There's a good records coming out this month. Yeah, some of them. Well, I mean, no, there's like several, there's, there are several here that are going to be on my list. No question. Let's put it that way. Oh, Steph. Yeah, look what we got back there.

01:29:41.000 --> 01:30:10.240
Put Steph on. Get her on. We'll hire you. Okay, here she is. Congratulations. Hello. Congratulations. How you doing? We're all so happy, so happy for you, and we enjoy these sort of like progression pictures on the Facebook, so please continue until you can't take it anymore. I'm being reminded by our roommate, Rochelle, that I need to take more pictures. Yeah, you gotta.

01:30:11.000 --> 01:30:16.100
about it. Hey, Steph, we all share condolences for carrying Jeff's demon suit.

01:30:18.620 --> 01:30:19.740
I worry about that sometimes.

01:30:22.240 --> 01:30:25.800
I'm sure Jeff told us, but I have forgotten. What was your due date?

01:30:26.540 --> 01:30:27.300
April 10th.

01:30:27.580 --> 01:30:30.580
April 10th. Hot dog. Well, next year will be a much better year than this year.

01:30:31.300 --> 01:30:33.880
Yes, he said it's the same weekend as Decibel next year.

01:30:34.200 --> 01:30:34.900
It's not going to happen.

01:30:34.980 --> 01:30:38.480
By the way, he said he's like, fuck it, I'm going to Decibel. I don't care what she says.

01:30:39.560 --> 01:30:40.500
Hold it in.

01:30:40.720 --> 01:31:10.300
He might not get to come. Anyway. I think the question was, are you willing to have that child in Philadelphia? In the pit. No. Are you, so are you, I always wonder if somebody who is expecting is also the woman nervous about the process of actually. That's how it works, Jay, by the way. I know you don't have kids, but that's how it works. I am scared because everyone keeps telling me stories about it.

01:31:10.540 --> 01:31:40.260
And my grandmother told me stories about when she had my dad. And apparently everyone in my family was a big old nine pound baby. It was great for him. Well, I'm sure you'll have better luck than that. But that's, yeah, I'm just curious. I mean, not to put your mind on it, but it must be so much harder for the drugs. There you go. I haven't thought about it yet, but I'm sure the closer it gets, I'll be thinking about it. But I already know I want the drugs. Yeah, good. Well, then you'll be fine. You'll be like, what's up? Oh, hey, who's this little guy? Is this mine?

01:31:41.340 --> 01:32:10.500
Where'd you come from? And Steph, we like the name that you guys picked out, Beelzebub. It's very nice. So do we have, it's far too early to say, but do you guys have plans for the size of the felon you want? Or are we going to have this one and see where it goes? What'd you say? Do you think we'd like to have three kids or are you like, we'll just have this one and see where it goes? I would like to, and I think Jeff's on the same page. And you'd like to maybe try for a girl next time? He wanted

01:32:10.540 --> 01:32:40.500
a girl this time. I was happy that it was a boy. If it happens that he gets to have a girl, then he can have his girl. I won't care either way. He'll take whatever you can get. Awesome. Just do what I did. You're having a boy first. You make sure the older girl is a completely kick-ass human being that can take care of no matter what little brother she has. That's my philosophy. Go ahead. My brother, he's younger than

01:32:40.540 --> 01:33:10.500
but he's stature wise way bigger and he acts like my big brother so i would hope for that if it will's daughter is in the karate so she's or yeah black belt uh first degree black belt level five i think oh cool yeah but she's a metalhead and she's got a fastball so she didn't have to get to the karate part she could just drill with the ball by the way by the way i have to say this is a proud father so i mentioned earlier but i'll

01:33:10.520 --> 01:33:16.320
I guess recorded but so we had a baseball game today she pitched the first two innings

01:33:17.740 --> 01:33:22.640
it's all boys except there's another girl on our team who shows up some of the times but it's

01:33:22.860 --> 01:33:31.700
basically all boys Little League Baseball and she struck out four or five walked one and the whole time she was wearing her kill them all socks nice

01:33:33.920 --> 01:33:36.700
well the most important stat how many brush backs

01:33:38.480 --> 01:34:06.560
Come on, man. I don't know if they're intentional, but there's quite a few. The faulty curveball. I'm assuming you raised your kids to like Metallica and stuff like that. It just kind of worked out for them. I raised my kids to like... No, nothing else matters to them. You know, Seth, sad but true. Both my children are very versed in the fact that there is only four good Metallica.

01:34:08.440 --> 01:34:10.080
Like literally they know that.

01:34:11.060 --> 01:34:12.240
I'm hoping we'll be lucky too.

01:34:12.370 --> 01:34:14.440
Cause I don't know that I can handle.

01:34:16.660 --> 01:34:16.900
Pop.

01:34:17.660 --> 01:34:18.660
Pop music in the car.

01:34:19.260 --> 01:34:20.020
Just start,

01:34:20.450 --> 01:34:24.640
just start playing heavy music next to your belly.

01:34:25.660 --> 01:34:26.180
Oh yeah.

01:34:26.490 --> 01:34:26.780
You know,

01:34:27.860 --> 01:34:28.540
people do that,

01:34:28.680 --> 01:34:28.860
you know,

01:34:29.160 --> 01:34:30.120
or this podcast.

01:34:30.760 --> 01:34:30.900
Yeah.

01:34:31.090 --> 01:34:31.240
Yeah.

01:34:31.250 --> 01:34:31.360
Well,

01:34:31.360 --> 01:34:31.560
I mean,

01:34:31.560 --> 01:34:31.840
I know,

01:34:32.000 --> 01:34:34.880
I know like there's like the whole like baby Einstein and all that.

01:34:34.880 --> 01:34:35.120
And like,

01:34:35.280 --> 01:35:04.420
And like people playing like classical music to the kids in the womb so that it, I don't know, makes them smarter or something. But, you know, don't just don't play Markisan sound. He just popped right there. Yeah. Listen to the sounds. Well, they say at 16 weeks, they can start to hear you. So if I were to start talking or Jeff were to talk to him, then he would understand that that's Jeff. Uh huh. So yeah, that might be an idea. My sister's due in, I think, February. And she just sent.

01:35:05.200 --> 01:35:35.140
some extremely detailed, like sonogram pictures. It's like, this kid is a video game face. I'm like, wow, there's like this, like, like a whole face of this kid. The 3d sonogram. Yeah. And I was just like, wow, that's wild looking. And, and, and to me, it is. So they've got a almost two year old and I'm like, wow, it's a spitting image of him. I mean, it's another boy. Um, and I'm like, that's crazy that, you know, he's still got like three, four months.

01:35:35.200 --> 01:36:04.980
more to cook and he looks like this. Yeah. It's nuts. We get our anatomy scan in November, like the first week in November. And they said, after that, I can take it down to a place in Fort Worth that will do those. So we can get a picture of his face right now. Yeah. It's, it's wild. Let's hope he doesn't look like Jeff. I hope he looks like Jeff. Jeff looks, Jeff has cuter eyes. I hope, I hope that he's a lot like Jeff in a lot of ways, especially health wise.

01:36:06.340 --> 01:36:34.980
Oh yeah, I guess so. Yeah. Well, I mean, Jeff did like Britney Spears a lot early in his life. So maybe not. Yeah. You might have a little trouble there. Still likes Britney Spears. Nice. Oh, what? Oh, man. What other pop demons are in his closet? Do you want to stick around for the rest of the podcast? Yeah. Our new guest, Stephanie Grisham. I told him he's on Disney duty because he can handle that a little more than I can. He's in the background.

01:36:35.200 --> 01:37:05.080
throwing horns for the other seat. You can't say that. Yeah, well, he's got a lot more to do to get past that Britney Spears stuff. So. Oh, he does. He can't. Can he can you hear us, Jeff? He can't hear you. He can't hear you. So he's just throwing horns because because of what you said. Right, right, right. He has no idea what's coming up after this. Now we get to make fun of him, too. Yeah. Does he ever stop eating? I know he's eating the whole time. Did you notice what what he started eating was in a paper bag?

01:37:05.180 --> 01:37:05.980
This fucking big

01:37:06.080 --> 01:37:06.300
I know

01:37:06.920 --> 01:37:07.520
It's like

01:37:08.220 --> 01:37:09.180
He's eating for two

01:37:09.780 --> 01:37:10.440
Yeah he's up

01:37:10.480 --> 01:37:11.360
Who's he eating for?

01:37:12.760 --> 01:37:13.320
I don't know

01:37:14.200 --> 01:37:15.420
Wish I could eat that much right now

01:37:16.480 --> 01:37:18.100
You know it would be appropriate for us

01:37:18.300 --> 01:37:19.420
To thank you for your

01:37:19.820 --> 01:37:21.200
Frontline service by the way

01:37:21.400 --> 01:37:21.680
Yeah

01:37:21.800 --> 01:37:23.280
We know that you're a nurse

01:37:23.480 --> 01:37:24.440
And we know that

01:37:25.000 --> 01:37:26.580
Jeff tells us Texas is getting trounced

01:37:26.620 --> 01:37:27.780
Which I think we all know from the news

01:37:27.980 --> 01:37:29.340
But bless your heart for

01:37:29.520 --> 01:37:30.180
For doing

01:37:30.280 --> 01:37:31.180
Continuing to go

01:37:31.240 --> 01:37:32.220
Even in your current condition

01:37:32.640 --> 01:37:32.780
So

01:37:33.700 --> 01:37:35.160
They take care of us

01:37:35.180 --> 01:38:05.140
We have several nurses that are pregnant on our floor right now and then we're all on selective duty and they make that thing for all of us. We don't have to have COVID patients ourselves so we just have to be careful and stay away so I'm pretty safe. So will you give birth at the hospital you work at? No. I chose one in Fort Worth because I wanted to be closer to the main hospitals in case something went wrong. Sure. And you don't want your colleagues looking at you? Yeah. I don't want them to know I'm

01:38:06.380 --> 01:38:07.780
Everybody get in here

01:38:10.380 --> 01:38:12.820
Hey she's downstairs let's go say hey

01:38:13.360 --> 01:38:14.760
Whoa never meant to see you like that

01:38:14.760 --> 01:38:16.000
Look at the size of this thing

01:38:18.740 --> 01:38:20.620
Welcome to Metalhead's maternity podcast

01:38:21.020 --> 01:38:23.280
And also there's a 50-50 shot

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It's the demon spawn

01:38:25.020 --> 01:38:27.020
Yeah you want to be careful about that

01:38:27.240 --> 01:38:28.900
Yeah good for you

01:38:29.560 --> 01:38:31.500
Well this kid will be like both metal and punk

01:38:31.580 --> 01:38:32.700
So that'll be good

01:38:34.660 --> 01:38:35.140
Yes

01:38:36.380 --> 01:39:05.080
If you guys ended up asking me questions, I wouldn't know what to say. But I remember on the boat, John BT played. There was a boat? Yeah. He played no effects and I felt like I was at home. Like I could contribute to the conversation for once. Punk and Drublik? Yes. It was linoleum. It was one of my favorites. Yeah. John BT, who is in Nashville, by the way, who's having a similar spike than you guys in cases. John, I talked to John.

01:39:06.440 --> 01:39:35.120
Nobody in Nashville is wearing masks. Wow. Jeff was telling us it's not so much by you guys either that maybe people are a little loosey-goosey with some of the rules. People have a lot of opinions and I don't think that they're very good opinions because they don't work on the front line I guess you could say. You can't explain that to them because that would be breaking HIPAA. You can't tell

01:39:35.120 --> 01:40:05.060
them why it's such a big deal. Sure. Well, let me ask you this. I mean, are there many, many cases at your hospital? There's quite a bit right now. More than the first time. And is it like, do they have like a COVID floor or something or what are they doing? At first they were trying to do that, but there's just too many. So they section off parts of the floor. So like the first half of the floor can be those patients. And then the other half won't be those at all. So like people like me who can't take those patients can go on that side.

01:40:05.140 --> 01:40:33.740
and know that they're not going to get a COVID patient. Yeah. You know, actually, I want to mention, too, I know you had a, I hope, fairly minor, but a bit of a surgery on a knee or an ankle or something not too long ago. It was my foot. I got a plate. How are you feeling? Pretty good. Bone takes a long time to heal, so it still kind of hurts, especially now they said everything's going to hurt worse. Is that a little mosh pit injury or something? Well, she was. Afterwards, she was doing a victory dance when she started feeling better, I recall. Yeah. Well, good. I'm glad you did.

01:40:35.140 --> 01:41:05.060
Good. Well, I'm glad you're feeling a little better. Oh, yes. Much better. I can walk like a normal person now. In the future, do you plan to go to some decibel shows if they come back? Or was that enough? Very much miss concerts, and I will go to anything he wants to go to. So just, I want to go and be near live music. It's really bothering me that we can't do that right now. Yeah, yeah. Well, he was talking about, it's really cool that he'll go to stuff that you really like.

01:41:05.140 --> 01:41:35.100
and then you'll go to things that he really likes even though you guys might not be into that kind of music it's nice though that you can share the experience yeah i'm sorry you have to endure his britney spear concerts i mean you're a real trooper hey you remind me in first grade you know you know i i actually know a fact about these two that i love and it's that um and it was because you posted it stephanie on your facebook page and it's obviously shows that i read people's facebook posts and it was that jeff was once upon a time lived in the friend zone

01:41:35.100 --> 01:42:03.720
And he fought hard and long to get out of that friend zone. And now he's married to you. Yeah, I actually shut him down a couple of times. And he told me if I would have shut him down one more time that he would have given up. So I'm glad that he did it. I have a similar story. Wait, wait, but what made the switch? Why did you decide to start dating him? Was it the pregnancy that made the switch? Well, I guess just kind of reflecting back on things.

01:42:05.120 --> 01:42:34.940
people that I could not live in my life without period. And one of my little neighbor children that I used to babysit, she hung out with him quite a bit too. And she said she could just see that we were both really tied to each other. And she told me that I should just go for it and try. So we did. Yay. The rest is history. Yeah. He probably has some clue what you're obviously talking about. He's just like standing over her shoulder. You need another pair of headphones so you can both be on.

01:42:40.160 --> 01:42:41.920
He said I didn't think we had one

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Oh, okay

01:42:44.040 --> 01:42:46.960
Can you, if you unplug the headphones

01:42:47.830 --> 01:42:50.160
will you both be able to hear it and still have

01:42:50.280 --> 01:42:51.080
Can you hear us now?

01:42:51.320 --> 01:42:51.840
Can you hear me?

01:42:52.360 --> 01:42:52.820
Can you hear John?

01:42:53.380 --> 01:42:54.320
Yeah, and you're not echoing

01:42:54.560 --> 01:42:56.120
so if you want to stick around for a bit

01:42:56.260 --> 01:42:57.020
why don't you do so

01:42:57.180 --> 01:42:58.520
if we're not boring you

01:42:58.820 --> 01:42:59.900
Well, let's find out what she thinks

01:42:59.900 --> 01:43:00.940
of these next coming albums

01:43:01.180 --> 01:43:01.740
that we'll listen to

01:43:02.260 --> 01:43:03.700
Yeah, that you've never heard of

01:43:03.720 --> 01:43:05.500
We'll continue on with official business.

01:43:08.520 --> 01:43:10.100
He did show me one band.

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It was a band that we saw while we were in, was it LA or was it?

01:43:15.180 --> 01:43:16.520
Was it Enslaved?

01:43:16.630 --> 01:43:16.900
It was.

01:43:18.040 --> 01:43:18.860
That's our next album.

01:43:19.380 --> 01:43:19.600
Stick around.

01:43:19.620 --> 01:43:20.920
I like the new Enslaved.

01:43:21.130 --> 01:43:21.960
I approve of this.

01:43:22.010 --> 01:43:22.880
I can listen to this.

01:43:24.080 --> 01:43:26.380
This is their 15th album called Utgard.

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Perfect segue.

01:43:27.920 --> 01:43:29.840
Yes, I was trying to remember what the name of it was.

01:43:29.930 --> 01:43:30.620
I do like it.

01:43:30.720 --> 01:43:31.520
Yeah, that's really good.

01:43:33.200 --> 01:43:38.980
And what does everybody else think of it? Not to get off of stuff here, but I know we've talked about it a little bit. I like it a lot. I think it's great.

01:43:39.600 --> 01:43:39.680
Same.

01:43:41.010 --> 01:43:41.660
Yeah, it doesn't suck.

01:43:43.540 --> 01:43:47.020
Well, first, I would say fuck Angry Metal Guy for giving it a terrible review.

01:43:47.510 --> 01:43:47.700
All right.

01:43:48.020 --> 01:43:49.680
Okay, Marcus, now let's stop right there.

01:43:50.460 --> 01:43:55.080
Tell me, please tell me that this bothered you, the reason for the crappy review.

01:43:55.600 --> 01:43:58.840
While I was comparing it to other enslaved albums.

01:43:59.160 --> 01:44:28.940
How about just compare it to itself? Review it for what it's worth. Don't say, well, because Frost or Below the Lights is so great, this album sucks. That's crap. That's such a cop-out review. I agree, John. And it's like, oh, I haven't liked anything since. I hate that when people say that. And you shouldn't be reviewing it. No. I love the album. I do too. The new vocals, the extra spoonful of Bragg in there, just the overall atmosphere, the craftsmanship.

01:44:29.160 --> 01:44:58.940
in the songs are just excellent. And every time I listen to it, I feel like it gets a little bit better. A spoonful of prog helps the black metal go down. It's cool because they have extra prog in it, but the songs aren't overly long, so it's not like they dry it out. Everything seems very cohesive and concise. It just flows into each other very well. I think it's extremely well crafted. Well, there's a concept to it, for one thing.

01:44:59.180 --> 01:45:29.100
which I think is the first time since Vertebrae, I think. And so it is really kind of one big long song in the smallest sort of way. In that there's a focus concept. I think it's just, you know, they just don't make mistakes. And they haven't made any mistakes. And especially since Below the Lights. I mean, they've just been on this tear that just doesn't ever go off the rails. So I love it. It's always a little different. You know, they always do something a little different. And I love that.

01:45:29.160 --> 01:45:59.120
about the band. I don't want the same thing over and over. I can't pronounce. John was talking about, I came out on the back end of that comment. To compare it to Frost is ridiculous. Yeah. Frost is amazing, but the new one is great because it's so different. Yeah. Because it has a random, the random singing and it just, something about it just brings the whole thing together. They're whole different bands. There's nothing like this album. It's great. No. They've also done the best live,

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I can't pronounce the second song, the name, but is it me? Or when you hear that opening, just like explosion that it sounds like just Vikings or vandals just rushing the plane, just ready to pillage. Cause it sounds like a horn blowing and you're like, people are all going to get slaughtered in like three seconds. And I'm going to listen to enslaved sing about the slaughter. It's going to be awesome.

01:46:29.160 --> 01:46:58.900
By the way, John, that second song's called, pronounced Jägermeister. That I would not doubt. It's also one of the most enslaved licks or riffs on the album, I think. And you know what it reminds me, John, is that in the smallest sort of way, I went back and listened to Servants of the Corner Cosmos the other day. It's got the same vibe of that riff that we love on that album so much. The vibe. Yeah. I love the fact that they opened up with chanting. Me too. It reminds me of Below the Lights.

01:46:59.160 --> 01:47:28.760
Yeah, me too. And Frost also, for that matter. The album has a little bit of a lot of their albums on it and still sounds different. Right, exactly. It is sort of a big unified bit of the history of Enslave. That's a perfect way to put it. There's a little bit of everything there. Although I do find it interesting that a lot of people I know that like Enslave don't like the drummer singing. I think he's got an amazing voice. Maybe they don't like that.

01:47:29.940 --> 01:47:33.000
It's not the same kind of clean vocals that they've had in the past, but

01:47:33.940 --> 01:47:35.580
I don't mind them, to be honest with you.

01:47:36.130 --> 01:47:37.960
I love the vocals on that.

01:47:38.380 --> 01:47:38.880
Yeah, I do too.

01:47:39.360 --> 01:47:43.380
Yeah, now the keyboardist sounds more like their former keyboardist.

01:47:43.720 --> 01:47:44.280
Yeah, he does, yeah.

01:47:44.360 --> 01:47:47.540
He's closer in range and pitch and everything, but

01:47:48.900 --> 01:47:51.640
I also, but I just think their voices are similar at the same time.

01:47:51.800 --> 01:47:54.820
The keyboardist and the drummer, and they're not like completely different set codes.

01:47:55.080 --> 01:47:58.600
I think the drummer, his vocals add another depth, another length.

01:47:58.600 --> 01:48:28.560
I do too. It sounds a little bit different. You know, you're getting it's enslaved. Sure. It sounds like enslaved, but you're getting another color to their palette, their sonic palette. And yeah, which is considerable. So I don't know if any of you guys, I think you guys watched the below the lights summer show. They did all the shows. I don't know if you noticed, but there was a sixth member who was there playing with them with the whole show. Was it Jay? I don't know. Was it if you didn't notice on the last song on the album,

01:48:28.660 --> 01:48:57.160
He plays the guitar solo. He was a guest on Below the Lights. Well, they brought him in, what, 17 years later to play the whole album with them, which I thought was a very, very classy move. And he's apparently a famous Norwegian musician. That's awesome. And Slaved has been my favorite band through the pandemic because of those shows. I got Utgard on vinyl, and I got Below the Lights, the reissue. I saw that. Nice. Oh, sweet. On the same day.

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What day was that? Hawaii is closer to every distributor that I know of because I haven't got that yet either. Oh, really? I don't remember what day it was. It was pretty close to the release date, though, of Utgard. Okay. Marcus, is that the, was it Osmos or whatever that label is? Is that the blue? Osmos Productions, yeah. It's that blue, like, with the black, almost like transparent. So there's only two vinyl left that haven't reissued, and it's killing me because it's Isa and Rune are the two they haven't reissued.

01:49:27.280 --> 01:49:57.160
Yeah, that's right. And that's one of our favorite periods. I got them both. Yeah. They'll get done. I'm lucky to have both of those, John, but I think one of them might be a back on black bullshit thing. Oh, yeah. I hate those back on black. Yeah, you take it. Well, they did the possessed stuff. They did seven churches, didn't they? Yeah, but that was bullshit, too. So clearly we like this album. I don't think we've ever spent this much time on one album. So, Will, let's ask Will. Did you actually listen to Will? No, I'm serious.

01:49:57.300 --> 01:50:01.120
I did I don't know what you guys see in this by the way

01:50:01.720 --> 01:50:03.440
yeah all right so turn Will's mic off

01:50:03.660 --> 01:50:05.560
so the first Jay award of the year

01:50:06.080 --> 01:50:06.920
has been awarded

01:50:08.680 --> 01:50:10.080
I have listened to it

01:50:10.080 --> 01:50:11.960
because I want to I like old

01:50:12.020 --> 01:50:13.900
and slave I like frost and all that old stuff

01:50:14.140 --> 01:50:15.700
but I just

01:50:15.940 --> 01:50:17.880
I just cannot get into this new stuff

01:50:18.000 --> 01:50:19.200
I just did there's

01:50:20.180 --> 01:50:21.820
it's just too fucking weird there's

01:50:21.940 --> 01:50:23.340
too I don't know I just

01:50:23.880 --> 01:50:25.980
it's not my thing all right so you actually get

01:50:26.020 --> 01:50:55.540
though, it is a little avant-garde. It's just a new one. They do go in some different directions. Spoonful frog. I regret to report that these are both Back on Black. But I mean, I just... But you have them. It's not like they sound bad or anything, but that's not... Why don't you like Back on Black then? They always fuck the packaging up a little bit, and I'm not convinced that they do a proper job of mastering and stuff like that. These both sound good. Bonus tracks are like,

01:50:59.600 --> 01:51:25.880
No, I do. I just sort of avoid background black for some reason. Yeah. All right. Well, it will. I'm proud that you listened though. Thank you. Yeah. I mean, almost everything we get in the promo, I download it and I listen to it. Sometimes I delete it completely from my library. And so, you know, sometimes I try extra hard, like enslaved. I tried extra hard. I did. And I'm like, you know, I, it's not my thing. I'm the one that gets the promos.

01:51:26.000 --> 01:51:55.880
I'm the one you love. And no, I'm not looking for credit here. I'm just saying that I, you know, of the billions of, okay, not billions, but like dozens of promos a week, I have to sort through and decide what to put in there. Because I mean, there's just, we just don't have room to put everything in there. And, and you'd never like me, you'd be like, what am I supposed to listen to? There's so much. So I curate it, but I, I'm always like, tell me when,

01:51:56.000 --> 01:51:57.660
there's something that you want to hear.

01:51:58.200 --> 01:52:05.600
Because if, you know, if there's something that's not, I mean, I, anything that's like pretty big name, I grab and I put it in there, even if I don't like it.

01:52:07.180 --> 01:52:08.340
But sometimes there's stuff.

01:52:08.340 --> 01:52:10.080
And John asked me for one the other day.

01:52:10.080 --> 01:52:12.000
I literally strike out every time I ask you for it.

01:52:12.000 --> 01:52:12.180
Yeah.

01:52:13.320 --> 01:52:21.360
But, you know, it's, it's worth letting me know because sometimes things will come by and I, I just, I haven't heard of it and I'm, and I let it pass.

01:52:21.460 --> 01:52:23.060
So if there's something you're looking for, let me know.

01:52:23.900 --> 01:52:23.960
Okay.

01:52:24.200 --> 01:52:25.640
Well, I do have one.

01:52:25.740 --> 01:52:26.280
Me too

01:52:26.840 --> 01:52:27.200
Alright

01:52:27.720 --> 01:52:28.340
I'll look right

01:52:28.640 --> 01:52:29.180
I'll look right now

01:52:29.520 --> 01:52:30.000
Tell me what you got

01:52:30.600 --> 01:52:32.040
Well mine you would have called up anyway

01:52:32.150 --> 01:52:33.080
But it's Van Inplause

01:52:33.150 --> 01:52:34.100
Has a new record coming out

01:52:34.280 --> 01:52:35.260
No I would have grabbed that

01:52:35.440 --> 01:52:37.140
I'm totally down if that's out too

01:52:37.280 --> 01:52:37.680
Yeah I know

01:52:37.760 --> 01:52:38.440
I know you like that

01:52:38.440 --> 01:52:38.980
I would grab that

01:52:39.060 --> 01:52:39.840
What about you Markisan?

01:52:40.440 --> 01:52:41.800
It's called Cult Burial

01:52:42.300 --> 01:52:44.140
They have three songs out on Bandcamp

01:52:44.150 --> 01:52:44.560
And it's fucking really good

01:52:44.560 --> 01:52:45.580
Cult or Occult?

01:52:46.100 --> 01:52:46.460
Cult

01:52:47.520 --> 01:52:48.380
Just Cult Burial

01:52:48.380 --> 01:52:49.000
That sounds familiar

01:52:49.130 --> 01:52:49.740
We might have that

01:52:49.920 --> 01:52:50.740
It's fucking good

01:52:51.160 --> 01:52:53.920
I got a notification on Bandcamp about it

01:52:54.000 --> 01:52:54.060
Yeah

01:52:54.320 --> 01:52:54.720
There's also

01:52:55.700 --> 01:53:24.660
Oh, wait, it's a cult burial that I have a notification for. So there is cult and a cult. A cult burial is actually really good. They made my list. No, this is just a notification of, hey, the Bandcamp emails. Okay. Let me keep looking. There might be something more. That means I got to go take a look. That's cool. Oh, hey, I bought something by them, so that's why I'm getting their emails. Back in August of 2016,

01:53:24.740 --> 01:53:54.700
I bought something from a hideous obscure. Okay. I remember them. Yeah, I was on my list and then you which is probably why you bought it and then they had an EP after that. So maybe they got a record coming out. That was a good record. Yeah. All right. Cool. Nice. But yeah, let me know if you want things. Go back to the streaming. Have you anyone has anyone watched the obituary streams they've been doing? I have not. They did one today. Yeah, one tonight. The only stream I have watched all year

01:53:54.740 --> 01:54:24.560
was on St. Paddy's Day. I watched the Dropkick Murphys while I was fucking hammered. Oh, hell yeah. We both threw up that night. That was probably the worst drinking night the pair of us have ever had. Awesome. Yeah, I won like an undeath, did one here in D.C. just I think last night and the obituary ones and some of the other ones that just, I don't know, I guess in a weird sort of way,

01:54:24.740 --> 01:54:54.660
It's not the same for me just to see a band playing. Oh, you know, what was YouTube? I was just thinking like, I'll just watch it in a month from now when it's absolutely right. They take them down. That's the problem. They do. Yeah. Yeah. That's the problem. I'm sure people are bootlegging it. One that I loved and it's too bad. He's not here to hear it. But the Mexico Metal Fest thing did. Fucking incantation. And it was so good. It was mixed so well. It was like, and they, and they played amazingly.

01:54:54.740 --> 01:55:24.640
You know, they were just like in their practice space or something. It was fucking rad, dude. Who's not here? Right, Marcus. He went dark. Of all people, he would care about that. But it was right before, after the record came out. And they really concentrated on the new record. It's fucking bitchin'. Did he turn on his spank thing? There's a rainbow, so he probably had to go. Not that I disagree with you, Willie. It's not the same. It just isn't. Even the first Enslaved one they did, which was really, really, really fucking good,

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Again, it was not the same as seeing them live. I bought all three tickets to see the obituary ones. I haven't had a chance to watch it because I live at work. Did you watch the Behemoth one? Speaking of tickets, I know they had tickets. Yes, I watched the Behemoth one. That shit was fucking insane. That's what I heard. I should have watched it. They literally had a person strung up on hooks by their skin. Yeah, it was crazy.

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Strangeland kind of shit. Yeah. It was bananas. I knew some of the details and I knew they put huge production value into it, but I just... Yeah, the Behemoth one was really good. Yeah, that's too bad I missed that. None of us watched it, I guess. Now, I like that bands are able to do this and, you know, to generate income through this, but it's just not my thing. I just haven't watched anything. Yeah. It's not sustainable. It makes me missus on certain people. It's not even about the money. I mean, I just...

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I don't watch live videos when they're free and whatever I just don't so you know I do I do I'm a live concert watcher and I still do it was funny because I was thinking I have going through this priest thing you know and I had this VHS that kind of got me through my junior high years and it's I'm sure John knows I'm talking was the Screaming for Vengeance tour one from Tennessee yeah and all I had was the VHS so I went it's on YouTube so you can go watch it I watched it the other day for the first time I don't have to watch it I was there

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In Tennessee? Maybe not Tennessee, but I was still there. That was a great tour. It was a great tour. It was amazing. And, Will, I had a baseball jersey screen for vengeance. That's the other one that I remember from the 80s was the baseball jersey. Did you just breathe screaming for vengeance? Actually, I got to show you something. I think I shared this with you guys once. It was slightly different, George, because it was actually gray and not white in the middle of mine. So look, Winston, I have my old copy of

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And this is the order form. And let's see, the baseball jersey, you can order, it's $13 plus $1 shipping and handling. It would take four to six weeks to ship. Four to six weeks, I was going to say that. And they always took six, by the way, four to six weeks, my ass. Like, what fucking weird time thing did we cross since the 80s where everything took four to six weeks? Jeff and Steph have this look like, yeah, we don't know what you're talking about. Everything is always like next day air. Am I ready?

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No, no, no. Amazon Prime. We were just talking about the Screaming for Vengeance story, but do you have any of these markets on from old albums? This is literally a 1983 order form or whatever that came out with Screaming for Vengeance. Look how mint I kept that. I kept that in such nice shape. I wasn't collecting vinyl back then, so I don't have as much Judas Priest, although today was Records Third Day, and I did pick up Sad Wings of Destiny. It's like a remastered version, which it needed. The album needed it. Badly, yeah.

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It's on 180 gram color vinyl and I got it. It's interesting about that, what you said, Marcus, on that piece of paper Jay's holding is heavier than the albums back then. It is. This is floppy, dude. I almost ran out. I have an 180 gram of that. But I do think I need the remaster because there's way too much bass in that record. Grant from Bucket of Blood, who we had on the cast, he listened

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to do it and he said it's the best sounding version of that record he's heard yeah because that record for years just sounded like crap is that who you got it from by the way i did not i got it here but um bucket of blood is always they have it though because he actually messaged me early this morning you know for record story they're not supposed to hold anything and he didn't but so they allow people to get it in the morning and at a certain point then they start putting it online and so he had extra copies of it and he told me he said i held one for you after that period of time if you

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want it but i actually got it here so if you want it maybe uh contact grant because he's he i'll look right now um is there is there anything fun about the packaging or anything did you say it was colored vinyl yeah it's like uh um uh i guess i can get it it's almost like um not foil embossed but what i don't know what you call it hold on i'm gonna get it now i gotta get it

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After he does this, I'd kind of like to steer us back into the land of new releases before Jeff and Steph fall asleep. They were on the boat. They know what this is all about. I'm still here. Just be quiet. I'm a Sega shifter. I don't even get out for another 45 minutes. We're talking about this album, so I have to get it. While he's doing that, I'm actually selling my record, so if there's anything you guys want.

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So yeah, it's an embossed. It's embossed. So everything, it seems like race. Okay. Now I'm sold. I didn't know it was embossed. 180 gram color and color embossed edition. It's beautiful. It feels great. If there's a rise on the cover, there's a rise out of J. I haven't even opened it. I was like a minute or two late on the cast because I was getting it at the place. You're out getting it. Okay. Marcus, hold it up again real quick. Oh, it doesn't have the border on it either.

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Yeah, which is better. Yes. It looks great. It looks horrible. I hate this. It has a border. It's black though. Look at the border. Right. Cause the border J show. Okay. The Koch release, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah. No borders. No borders. I will go and get, get that from Grant. Thanks for the heads up. Hopefully he still has it, you know? Yeah.

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I'm just tear that that that plastic off of there as if as if nobody's ever gonna want to like we can't do a listing party because we can't pay the royalties I only ever slit that open and then slid stuff out I never took the plastic I didn't know oh shit wait wait wait I'm not looking color in color 180 grand oh that's nice I didn't you know they didn't tell you what the I gotta replace these yeah I was gonna say they give you a shitty ass insert though

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I have the black with the lined sleeves.

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I always replace all of them.

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Also, is it like a gatefold?

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I want to see the photos.

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Hold on.

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Yeah.

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Somewhere Al Atkins is pissed.

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His picture's not in there.

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Yeah, that's the same.

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So that's the same as mine.

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So they didn't change the...

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Oh, no, it doesn't have this.

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Cool.

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Oh, God.

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I still have the single sleeve.

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I want to see with the other one. I wonder if it's a different color or the same. Maybe we could move on. It's the same. Anytime you're ready. All right. So the next new release is the new Inferra Bruu album, Rights of the Nameless. This is their fourth album. They're a Boston black metal band and friends of ours. In fact, I spoke with Galen, the singer, guitar player, while we've been recording.

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And also, of course, Chris,

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aka Neutrino.

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Good dudes, good black metal, good music.

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You should definitely check this out.

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It's a great album.

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Yeah, I like it.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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It's a great album.

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I like it a lot.

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Yeah, I thought it was good.

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I really like the vocal presentation in this one.

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It really stood out.

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That dual vocals in, I think it was Latent Faux Arcane.

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Maybe that's the song.

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They have that hunting Oz in the Sumerian shade, and it also gets bonus points for using the word Sumerian, which is from Conan. That's Sumerian. Sumerian would be, you know, Sumerian. Yes. Sumerian with a C, not an S. Gotcha. C-I-M-M. Yes. Believe me, I'm a Conan man. I know the difference. I was merely picking fun at your pronunciation that I was saying that was close.

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enough that it could have been Sue Marion. But anyway, I'm going to shut the fuck up and move on. Yeah, please. He makes angry face at me. Yes. Great album. Check it out. Next up, we have The Ocean, their 10th album and sequel to the previous album, Phano fucking Phanerozoic 2, Mesozoic, Cenozoic, and hopefully we're all out of Jurassic periods because

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We're talking billions of years, George, so as long as they're around. Yeah, but yeah, this is their sequel to the part one, obviously, and German Prague post death metal, and it's really good. I mean, as you know, I listen to a lot of death and grind these days, and so there's not much that penetrates that barrier of rage, but this was one of the things that was able to get through and be like, yeah, that's pretty.

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I'm about halfway through it today. I need to give us more time, but what little bit I've heard, I like a lot. Yeah. Yeah. John, was there any special packaging for the new one? I know the last one came with a fossil, if I'm not mistaken. That was the CD version. Okay. It's such a dynamic atmospheric record. There's great hooks on that. I mean, such good melodies. There's tribal rhythms. There's keys. There's cello on that thing.

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Chandelier. Adventurous. That looks good. Look at that. It's a die cut cover. Shit. Also, it's about the Twilight of the Dinosaurs, so that's fucking cool. They put out all these like slip mat, like cardboard things with lyrics on them. All different colors. You can change your image in the background. Oh, that's badass, dude. The vinyl's all different colors. It's good on vinyl, but when they do this on the C,

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It sucks because the packaging falls apart. Yeah, but it's cool that they put so much thought into their stuff. They put so much effort into their stuff. Clearly, yeah. If you're a fan of The Ocean, they've hit a home run the last three albums as far as I'm concerned. Yeah, definitely. Their early stuff is good too, but I think they're just killing it. Plegio was where I really picked up. Plegio's awesome. And a nice thing too is Jonas from Catatonia is back on this one also like he was on the previous.

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So he's on both parts one and two. Sweet. But does

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Jeff like it? That's the question. Jeff has not heard it. Therefore. I rely on Jeff for those things. It is definitely right up her alley. Yeah, exactly. Whether she realizes it or not, she likes Prague. Nice. Closet Prague. The thing that buried in me was one that kind of caught both of our attention when we were in high school.

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And I didn't realize she liked it. And then 10 years later, she's like, yeah, I love Between the Berry and Me. I'm like, what the fuck? Oh, well, yeah. If you like that, then you'll like this. Yeah. This is actually better. It's good to discover new things about your spouse. Yeah. Yes. All right. Let's see if there's something new with this next album. Right. So the next up we have is the new Paul Bearer album, their fourth album, Forgotten Days.

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And there's mixed opinions on this podcast about this band. No comment from Jeff or Steph. Well, I like them. I confess I haven't listened to it yet. I got to download it, which I was just trying to do and had trouble. So, but whatever, I'll hear it tomorrow. But I know Will seemed to think it was all right. It's all relative. Compared to Heartless, which was their last album, which is really a rock and roll album, which I did not really like at all.

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And I tried really hard because their second album, Foundations of Burden, or no. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I love that album. It was one of my favorite. It still is one of my favorite albums. One of my favorite doom albums. So I'm a big pallbearer fan. The first two albums, Sorrows and Extinction and Foundations of Burden. And then Heartless came around. I'm like, what the fuck? And then, you know, you read their interviews and they're like, well, we never said we were a metal band. We never said we were a doom band.

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That's the metallic excuse.

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Yeah.

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Right.

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That didn't last long with this new one.

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That's right.

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Yeah.

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So the new album, Forgotten Days, is definitely harkened back to more of the first two albums.

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But it's not quite there yet, in my opinion.

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It doesn't have that deeper sorrow.

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Ethereal, yeah.

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Yeah, sorrow.

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You know what it sounds?

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At least the advanced track whale sounds to me a little bit more like a stripped down

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Sabbath-y thing, so that gets rid of some of those weird ethereal layers that they do, which is important.

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There's more of that later on.

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Okay.

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But I listened to it twice, and I want to listen to it a couple more times.

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I'm not sure what's going to make my list, but I'll tell you what, I like it a lot more than the last one.

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I'll give you that. I really did not like the last one at all.

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This one is definitely better than the last one. And I thought the vocals were pretty good. You know, I've always had production issues with them. And of course you did. Yeah, muddy. It's muddy. But not like horrible ones, just like more like critiques. You know, it was never like bad enough that I wouldn't listen to it, but just like things that I would have liked to have heard. You know, like this would one of the things was that the vocals

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were always really buried. The vocals are no longer buried. That is not an issue. They're definitely more up front, and that's great. I felt that when the advanced tracks came out, I was like, wow, the music production, vocals aside, sounded really crappy. But then when I listened to it, when he got the promo, I was like, oh, it's not as bad as I thought it was.

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It's better than the last one.

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Well, I've spun it once.

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And I like the record.

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I think it definitely goes back to the Do Me roots.

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But there's definitely more confidence in the vocals.

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They definitely shine through.

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But I find that there's some standout tracks on there.

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Like Silver Wings is one of my favorite songs they've done.

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That's a great track.

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And I love Heartless, actually.

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And the problem for me is I actually feel like it's a little bit of a step backwards.

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Because I thought they were heading towards more of a unique sound last time. And I was hoping they would do it more like Heartless, but with bigger, doomier guitars in this one. And it feels like they've kind of regressed. And I hope it's not because of comments, you know, or reviews or anything. But I have to spin it a few more times. I like it. But I don't actually don't like it as much as the last album. So that's fair. I think you kind of hit it on the head.

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But I think the guitar tones in Heartless were just too rock and roll. Where I think the guitar tones are now more back to a slightly heavier that they had in Foundations of Burden and Sorrow and Extinction. It's like they're caught in between. I thought that they would expand on Heartless and then bring more metal to it. This album feels like it's caught in between. It's like, well, people like their older sound, but we still want to do elements from what we did on Heartless.

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No, I think that's a fair assessment, Mark. So I really do. So maybe the next time I'm better. I haven't heard it and I can't add to any of the commentary except to say that, and I shared this on the pod a while back, I revisited Heartless during the lockdown because I was revisiting things and I found out that I liked it way more than I thought I did. So, so I, in the end, like really, like a rich man's chemist, right? I'll never live that down. Poor man's chemist. Sorry. No, no, no.

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Yeah, it was the backwards. It was well done. So I liked Heartless more than I realized I did. And in any case, I can't speak to this one yet, but I like the advanced track, so I'll be checking it out. I mean, Heartless is tough because it's not as metal as you are used to with that band, but the songwriting in that is really good. So, you know, I liked it right away, but I can see how it would be a grower on some people. So I'm glad you found some value in it, revisiting it.

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at Jay. Honestly, I thought,

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minus the fact that, yes,

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they backed off a little bit on some of the tone things,

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it's not that different a record than Foundations of Burden.

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And quite frankly,

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it's a little bit more slightly into the rock zone,

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but I don't know. I mean, it's still,

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I mean, you, you, you could take, you know,

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a country music song and put some guitar tone in it and make it heavy metal.

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So guitar tones are important, Jay. Come on.

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Maybe, maybe it's that the tone is not that different, but, well, but I,

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but I, I, it is a different record.

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There's no question about that. So I'm looking forward to this. See what I think of it. You know, actually, our next two ones are also going to be somewhat controversial, not controversial, but not possibly all in agreement on. The next one is the Spirit Adrift album. Their fourth album, Enlightened in Eternity. They're an Arizona doom band. They're not doom anymore. Yeah. Yeah. They're just a straight ahead. Yeah.

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Yeah. And I haven't always been quite sure about them, but starting with their last album, I think I've been pretty much in their camp. And I think this is a great album. I mean, I, you know, I mean, I think Chemist is a better band in terms of this style of music, like hands down. But I think they're like in the same vein as Chemist, slightly different. The vocals are kind of different, you know.

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But in terms of riffs and stuff, I feel like they have the same pedigree. They're a little more, I don't want to say they're retro 80s, but I think their song structure is a little more in that vein than chemists. Traditional metal, yeah. I'd agree with that. Yeah, it's a little more traditional. Yeah, it's a good way to put it. I agree with you, George. I like them better, these last two, than the previous, the first two. I like them better as just a metal band. Yeah, and I dig it. Yeah, and given all the hardship that band has kind of gone, they could have packed it up, you know,

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between these last two albums. And I like it. I think Will mentioned this before that you thought the singing was better on this album, and I would agree with you 100%. I think he's a much more confident, he's much, he's apparently spent a lot of time working on his vocals. Well, he should spend a little more time. It is better. Like, yeah, I'm sorry. It is better. It is way better. And I, I'm on the borderline like, oh, maybe I like this, but it's still like, I think maybe

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The music is great, but they need to find somebody else to sing. I really do. Well, I think you're kind of screwed because he's the main dude in the band. I like the vocals quite a bit on this. It is way better. I'll admit, I hated them before. I agree with you, Will. Yeah. Well, it's not as huskier. There's more weight to the vocals than before. I didn't give a shit about this band at all. And I tried. I really tried.

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And then this new one came out, and I agree with Will, his vocals are better. But it's just still not something I can really give a fuck about. Or that. I mean, they're talented musicians. The song structures are good. But I mean, I've been on this podcast for what? Ever? Two or three months.

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- Apparently not.

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- Clearly.

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- Some of the shit you listen to.

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- I know, right?

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- I mean, Madonna, nobody likes Madonna.

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- I mean, I get the whole kids thing, Will.

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I get that part, yeah.

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- I mean, I think it's their best album.

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I'm a fan of them because I saw them live

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and I thought they delivered an amazing performance.

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I thought, weren't they gonna be a decibel?

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- We saw them a decibel.

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- We saw them a decibel.

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- I thought they were gonna be a decibel.

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Well, we drank, I think, during their set. That was part of the problem. I don't remember seeing them at Deskimo. Yeah, I remember we were sitting at the back bar. Was that the year I wasn't there? You might not have been. I don't think I was there either. I don't remember this. No, you were there, Will. You're always there. It is Deskimo. I may not remember anything. I'm positive we were in the back bar. I don't remember. It might have been when it was just Jay, Will, and myself. Yeah, and also Will might have. I can't remember if you were pouring.

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You were working I think too Will. Yeah I think you're working. Working for a living. Glory hole. I'm digging it so we're split on it whatever. It's cool. All right well let's split this next one too. Yeah I can guarantee this is a split. That would be the new Wayfarer album A Romance with Violence. It's their fourth album. They're a Denver black metal ish band. Western black metal. Western black metal. Old West.

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I dig it I'm sure I don't think many people here will say they don't you know I um

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fair enough I mean I it's I just not dig it's just not my thing it's very generic to me but yeah but I know you guys like it a lot

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I feel like I like the last one a little bit better but you know I was gonna say the same thing and I know

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John BT agrees with us so but I'll give this one a chance to grow on me the way that one did this one's a little more compact some of the songs aren't as sprawling as long as the last one was um but I dig it I mean it still sounds like them and I love that they keep working in this I mean I can hear the train in the background you know what I mean like I get it they're doing it right oh yeah it's stirring black metal with mixed with old west gun smoke yeah I like that's right up my alley I like that stuff see I was I got more tombstone but I get it tombstone oh yeah

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I want to watch Tombstone really badly. You tell them I'm coming, I'm bringing help with me. I've got two guns, one for each of you. I'll be your Huckleberry. I like the new way for a lot. Get the canoe out of your head, John. You like it a lot, Will. So good. Do you want to comment? I may comment later. Okay, gotcha.

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All right. Well, then we're going to move on to what we are listening to.

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Jeff and Steph.

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What are you guys listening to? Okay, so I'll go first. So I've been listening, I've been reading, sorry, not listening, been reading the, I can't remember the author's name, the book about black metal that somebody wrote. Oh, the, is it like the Decibel, like through Decibel book? Not Decibel, it's the Dale. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, that's Decibel, I think like helped release it or whatever.

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But yeah, I read that. That was a good one. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah. I wasn't aware of that. Okay. So I've been reading that. And so along with all the new releases, I've been listening to a shit ton of early black metal. Everything is mentioned in that book. So early Slayer, early. Yeah, that one. I have that, Will. That's next. Oh, is that the second one? He's not listening. Right, right. Is that the second one, Will? I don't know. I didn't have my headphones.

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It's like the third one, isn't it? Is this what you're talking about? Oh, wow. It's actually before that. This is volume one. Colton Everdise volume one. Yeah, there's some shit before that. Dale Patterson. Yes, Dale Patterson for sure. But yeah, everything he talks about in that book. Emperor, early Emperor, Celtic Frost, then dissection.

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Yeah. Just got into the section after the

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Schalder interview.

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It was talked about so much.

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And then the new Schalder.

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Schalder is fucking incredible.

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Yeah, they are. And good dudes too.

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Yeah. Yeah, I'm glad you liked it.

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I'm glad people are digging them.

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I don't think it had anything to do with our interview

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because no one listens to this, but

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I remember

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when we were interviewing Schalder.

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When we were interviewing Skolder, we said, oh, you have 150 people who bought yourself a band camp. I know there's a lot of other local bands. It's like, oh, yeah, you got four people to buy your album. Yeah. And then I looked again a couple weeks later, and it doubled. That's because of us. Of course. Sure. Because of Will. Yeah, yeah. But no, they're such good dudes, and I really love. No, and honest to God, their album is really, really fucking good for black metal.

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As far as black metal goes, it's really fucking good. Nice. What else? Uh, fuck. Uh, pretty much everything I mentioned for the 2020. Yeah. Segment. All right. For me. Yeah. It can be punk. It doesn't have to be whatever you want. Nursery rhymes, you know, whatever. Yes, there's nursery rhymes. I know that some of you like Deftones.

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Not everybody does. I do.

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I've been listening to the new album that came out in September.

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And I'm here for it.

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I feel like it's a good mix of everything that they've done, honestly.

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I heard the first song on the radio, and then I listened to the rest of it.

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I listened to the whole track at work because I kind of leave music in the background.

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And it's perfect.

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It's what I would expect from them.

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And if it's not the new album, I like Saturday Night Wrist is my other favorite. I've been listening to that a lot. And then Adrenaline, their first one. I kind of listened to the same stuff for a while. I just got their beer, the White Pony beer that came out. So they only released it to a few states and Hawaii is one of them, but everything is delayed in Hawaii. Like it came out a few months ago and it finally made its way here. So I drank one last night.

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I feel like it should be a better beer. That's the way I feel about their albums. Oh, well, you're wrong about that. But that's just a matter of taste. No, no insult intended. Cool. What else do you got, Steph? Do you listen to more stuff? Well, I found an old CD in my car, but I made it in like freshman year of high school, I think. And it had a bunch of stuff on there. It had like the adverts on there. You know, Gary,

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Gailmore's Eyes and had Subhumans and stuff like that. There were a couple other bands that I completely forgot about. Like, Anti-Chism was one of them. And, like, I can't even remember where I found that. I just remember being on the internet in high school and just finding the most obscene stuff to listen to because, you know, we were trying to be cool. Freshman in high school. There was a bunch of stuff like that that I barely remember, but I still liked it. Cool. It's good when stuff holds up.

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is she turned me on to a band called leftover crack. Oh,

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I don't know if any of you know,

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there's no such thing.

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And that we went to a show last year for leftover crack and a bunch of other punk bands.

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That was the most fucking bananas show I've ever been to in my life.

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Like all death metal,

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all black metal,

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all anything cannot trump the energy at the show.

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So Leftover Crack, you have a chance to do it because you'll get killed. Wait, what kind of music is it? It's a punk band, but they have Skull influences. So, um, V.S. and Dios is one of their albums where they're kind of more Skull-y and punky, but it's got like a scratchy, I don't know how to explain his voice. It's a scratchy punk voice, but you can still kind of understand him.

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Yeah. Steph, do you know of the book, Please Kill Me? I've got that. I don't. Okay. Is it about the history of punk, George? Yeah. Okay. I was gifted. I haven't read it yet. Yeah, I read it. Oh, I should read that. Please Kill Me. Please Kill Me. I'll have to look that up. Yeah, it was good. By the way, can you isolate that little sound bite, Please Kill Me, so every time you guys talk about something, just hit that, Please Kill Me. I will endeavor to do so.

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- Every time Will mentions the Black Album, we could play that.

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- Yeah. - Please kill me.

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- Yeah, just say that for me real quick, Will.

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- Or every time Will whines about how late the podcast's going,

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could put that down.

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- Yeah, just say that real quick.

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- It's a little salty, but it's not bad.

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- Go on, Will, do it.

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- Was that the sound bite?

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- Yeah, we already have that one.

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- Come on, Will.

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- It sounds exactly like the sound bite, Matt.

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- Exactly, I want there to be a little game.

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Like, is that really him or is that a sound bite?

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Is it real or is it Memorex? I have so many of them. Yeah, Seth, we don't make the music. We just make it sound better. Yeah, George hasn't been using the sound bites as much. That's because there's so many of them. It's hard to find them in a timely manner like right now. I'm like trying to find it's a little salty. Hey, Marcus, at some point we have to take responsibility for our own sound bites. Wait, here we go. I do pull some out. It's not bad.

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Salty, but it's not bad. Yeah, I nailed it. Yeah, it sounds like Matt. Sounds a lot like Matt. First take, nailed it. Okay, so Will, say please kill me. No, I don't want to say it's, no. It has to be natural. No, it has to be Stephanie doing it. All right, fine. Yeah. Well, she's already, we already got you stuff. You don't have to say it again. You're fine. It's in the can. Jesus. Marcus, are you guys done? Are they done? Do you guys have any more albums?

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Steph and Jeff, anything else? We dubbed The Unforgiven. Yeah. All right. Moving on to Markisan then. All right. I have a, I guess, it's not a George-sized list, but I do have quite a few. So the first one is Armored Saint Punching the Sky. I'm really pleasantly surprised by this album. I did not expect it would be this good. And it is. It's galloping, kick-ass energy. The songwriting on the record is fantastic. And I think John Bush,

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who I love delivers a great vocal performance. I really like this album. Have his vocals changed in 25 years? He still sounds good. You're right. I actually think he might even sound better on this than previous albums. He's so good. I thought it was a pretty good album. I did too. I have to listen to it more. I don't know if it will make my list. No, but it's still a really good return to form. Yeah. But it makes me happy when I listen to it, which I like. And that's what it should do. Strangely, there is, and I

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I think it might be self-produced, but there's a documentary about those guys coming out. Oh, I'll check it out. They are great live. I've seen them twice, and they are outstanding live. I saw the trailer for it recently. The second one I have is Just Before Dawn, an RME at dawn. This is just a bulldozer of death possessed by the spirit of Bolt Thrower. So if you like Bolt Thrower, you would like this quite a bit. Undeath, which just came out, Lesions of a Different Kind. This is a really great death metal album.

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Classic Sounding Death metal album. It has a great groove to the songs that makes them memorable, I think. It's just, I don't know. I can almost sing these songs, even though it's growling. Wake, Confluence. As you know, I love Wake, and this is an excellent EP in a year where we already got an exceptional full-length album from these guys. They said the idea behind this EP was to go outside their comfort zone.

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and do a bit of experimenting.

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And so there's more of a bit of post-metal on it.

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In a weird sort of way, I like, I mean, like Confluence better than Devouring Ruin.

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I really like it a lot.

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It's great.

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I like the idea of, hey, you're going to do an album, then we're going to do an EP.

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We're going to try some new shit.

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And here you go.

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And then we'll do another album.

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I kind of like that idea.

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So, you know, we're, I don't know if we're doing best EPs for the year, but this will probably be on my top five EPs.

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Well, ask yourself this. Did Thrasenblatt put out an EP? Right, okay. So then we're doing EPs. All right. Never mind, George. What am I thinking? What the fuck? We just may not do it on the episode itself. It may be. After the last seven plus hour debacle, we're looking for ways to trim it down. So we may not do them on the episode itself. It may be a website thing. Oh, come on. The next one I have is Luna's Call Void.

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Holy fuck. I didn't know anything about this band. Really impressive, progressive death metal. There's sung vocals on it, but man, the musicianship, the instrumentation on this is really great. I've been listening to it a lot lately, actually. Another EP is Apparition, Granular Transformation. This is really muscular, spine haunting death. Really good.

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Of Feather and Bone. We got the promo for this. It is not out yet. Sulfuric Disintegration. This is maybe the most evil, most dangerous sounding death metal on the planet. It's a really good album. It's like 30 minutes, I think, which I think the last one was like that. The last album, I think, was number three on my list when it came out. I think it was 2018. Yeah, I looked it up. Yeah.

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is a really heavy death, but also a bizarre experimental album. So experimental death. I don't know how I feel about this one yet. Actually, to be honest with you, it's really bizarre, but different. Conjureth, The Levitation Manifest. This is an aggressively vile pit of putrid rotting death metal EP. Conjureth also put out another EP earlier this year. I really like this band.

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I'm wondering if they'll work on a full length soon. Cloud Kicker, Solitude. I love Cloud Kicker. And whenever, it's one guy who does all of the instrumentation. Whenever he releases an album, it really flirts with my metal year-end list, but none of his releases have really made the cut because I don't think that they're metal enough. They're amazing, but they're just not quite metal. I think that changes with this album. It's all instrumental.

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It's very metal and it's my favorite Cloudkicker album that he's done. Serpent Column, Cathodos, excellent avant-garde black metal layered with filthy technicality and venomous guitars. Dephosphorus, Sublimation, cosmic riff-heavy grind with some progressive layers and just a very unique spectre-like vocals. This is my album of the month for September.

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Morwenian, pristine, atmospheric black metal with heavy synths in this album. I love that mix of ambient music and black on this one. We've talked about my love for ambient music. I know John likes it too. And this one really is like a big merge of the two. So I've been listening to that one a lot. Silver Knife, Unyielding, Unseeing. This is a multi-layered melodic.

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Black Metal album. Kind of leans more towards Black Metal than bands in this genre when you do the melodic Black Metal. Usually it leans to that side more. This one is more of a Black Metal, which I prefer. So I've been listening to The Silver Knife quite a bit. Two more. Lord Almighty Wither. Really fun Black Metal with neck snappy riffs. Neck snappy? Neck snappy. Oh, snappy. Okay.

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Yes. I really like that one. Snap your fingers. Snap your fingers. Prong. Yeah, yeah. I mean, you can't snap your fingers because you have sausage fingers, Matt, but everybody else can. Not snappable, man. Not snappable. No, look at those. There's no way. Sausage your hands. Sausage your hands. Plus the casing gets in the way. I think, Matt, it's slappable. And finally,

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My last album is Laser Dracool Hagridden. It's just really spooky. Hagrid? Like Harry Potter Hagrid? Like Hagrid? You're a wizard Harry. Like a female Hagridden. Okay. Just spooky fun whore doom and perfect for Halloween but just killer solos on this album. I really enjoy listening to this. The last couple days I think I've been playing that one the most. So that's what I have. Oh album of the episode.

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All right.

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You guys

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I'm going to go with Benediction. Nice. Benediction for my album of the episode. Excellent. Because that shit is amazing. Can't disagree with you. I'm going to have to go with the only one that I know. So enslaved at guard. Nice. I feel like I tried. Wasn't a bad choice at all. No. All right. Well, now it's on me. I guess I just mentioned that.

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I'm torn on this one actually. I really like that dephosphorus

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sublimation album, but I'm going to go, I'm also going to go with enslaved. Stephanie is

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correct. Especially because I saw that angry metal guy review and I was like, what? What's wrong with you? I don't want to read your site ever, ever again.

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Because this is like, they, they, they vacillate between so wrong and so right. There's not a lot of

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It's like either they're fucking idiots

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or they're fucking geniuses

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That one was really bad though

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It was pretty bad, yeah

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That was about as bad as it gets

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Because he didn't dislike it because he disliked it

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He disliked it comparing it to other enslaved albums

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Which is so lame

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He also used the word boring

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That was his summation

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What are you talking about?

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Do you remember my review of his review?

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Yes, I do

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I think it was something similar

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I find your review to be boring

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I would have picked it anyways but I feel like I have to emphasize that point because and I should say too that that album has gotten a lot of great great reviews so just because angry metal guy gave it a ridiculous review don't bother with pretty much everybody else universally I think it's gotten a lot of critical acclaim and deservedly so so that is going to be my album of the month on to Matt sausage fingers stupid

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Let me sausage things up here a little bit. First off, I totally forgot to mention or put Feather and Bone on my list, but holy shit, that album is dangerous. I'm almost scared to listen to it a little bit, but I love it. The Wake EP as well, very intense. Love it. Inferro Bruo, as we talked about, Rites of the Nameless, probably my favorite of theirs. Just really solid black metal. Yatra, All is Lost.

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They are a sludge, sludgy doom bam. This is their third album. Just really catchy riffs. You know, if you like sludgy doom. Y-A-T-R-A. It's a three piece. They're U.S. I can't think of what city they're from, but really dug it. Serpent Column, as Marcason mentioned, Kathodos. I love it. I don't know if I like it as much as the last album, but I haven't taken the time to kind of compare.

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and do all that fun stuff. Wayfair, Romance with Violence, same thing. And maybe this is just me being bitchy, like I really like this album. I don't know if I like it as much as World's Blood, but still dig it. Gorophilia, I know Markisan you had mentioned in the feed. Jeff mentioned it earlier. I was actually interested in seeing this album because I know I really dug their last release. Did I put the promo up? I thought I did. You did. This one blows the last one away, I think. Yeah.

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Yeah, and I guess I was especially interested because I remember loving the last one, and then I don't know how long it was along, but then the singer committed suicide. That's right. And so the guitarist, I believe, took over. But again, it's in that kind of like that you're more dirty death, like dirty, dirty death, you know? Dirty, dirty, dirty. Dirty, dirty, dirty death, like a tomb wall or a osarium, you know, ossarium. But they're a finish. They're death.

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It's solid. And then my album, the episode, I didn't say much when you're talking about it, just because I wanted to save it for here. But like, I've never really been a big spirit adrift guy. And something about when that the issue of decibels showed up at my house, I was like, Oh, yeah, spirit adrift. And I knew about kind of the conscious uncoupling that they had with the members of gate creepers, gate creeper. And I thought, man, I should give, you know, kind of their catalog a spin. And I did. And I loved it.

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And I thought like, I mean, why haven't I loved them this whole time? And so I did vocals. And that's the thing. Like, I'm not a detailed guy. So when you guys talk about the vocals being, you know, worse or better, like, I just don't notice that shit. Really dig this album. And, you know, honestly, they did that Sabbath cover. And I remember walking my dog one night, and I can't even remember what song it was. But it was, I believe it was something off of Masters of Reality. Was it maybe? Or was it volume four? But anyways,

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hearing the guitar coming on one ear and then it come on in the second ear. I was like, oh, fuck. This is why I love you guys. You pay attention to those details. But I mean, you know, reading the story afterwards made me dig it even more. You know, both of these guys had lost pit bulls. As someone who has also lost a pit bull, I could relate. And actually seeing them show up on the cover was kind of cool. Not digging the fact, you know, the century media bullshit, but I did get my vinyl on 20 bucks spin about three days before the album came out.

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And I dig it. Nice. It's really good. I think it's their best album, actually. Yeah. I was going to say, kind of the same thing you were talking about. I didn't really give a shit about them. And then I listened to the new album and I thought, this is fucking incredible. And then I went back to their back catalog. And this is by far the best album. Yeah, I would agree. It's good, just not for me.

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For me, it clicks a little bit more now. I don't know what it is about like, you know, oh yeah, whatever, whatever, whatever. And then one day you wake up and it's like, oh shit, I really dig this. And I don't know what did it for me. Maybe it's just marketing. Like, hey, we put you guys on the cover of Decibel. And so, you know, fucking brainless guy in Minneapolis is like, oh man, I should listen to that. You know, and so maybe that's what it is. But yeah. Sometimes you're just ready to pop or you need somebody with a big discography to go through and they get you at the right time and you're like, well, this is it.

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I think it says something because I wouldn't have expected Matt to pick that as his album. Absolutely. And like, even when I was like, here's me like, oh, fuck, I got to get this on vinyl. Like, when do I ever do that? And you don't buy vinyl. Exactly. You know, yeah, exactly. And then I got in buying it more and more. And actually, I just got a new record player from my father in law. So I'm excited. Oh, he's in the shit. He's in it now. It's all over for you, buddy. Well, you know, and the thing,

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I have one of those Ikea, it's a black Ikea shelf, it has four compartments, and I said, I told my wife, like, hey, I'll never get more involved in this one compartment. Now, in my recent, I've revised, I'm like, all right, two compartments. That's funny about that. I told her the same fucking thing, Steph, and then Connor, we found out, was coming along, like, maybe I should get rid of these four compartments.

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of vinyl and get some fucking money for this kid. It takes up a whole wall. Mine takes up two whole walls. I haven't bought anything. I haven't bought anything in like two years, but I did just purchase the new Infero Brew on vinyl because they're my boys. They're cool, but I did not. So that brings us to John. So Matt, I have to say, I'm not, please.

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that you mentioned Century Media because Century Media has become my new Steel Panther. So. Nemesis. Yeah. Fuck them. Anyway. It was a poo-poo that it's coming out on Century Media, but a yay that I got the vinyl from 20 bucks spin. Yeah, exactly. God, I'm glad you got it because if it was Century Media, you'd still be waiting. So my list is, it's going to

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I'll just go quick because most of my albums were on our what were the actual new releases so I'll just go through them quickly and Farrah Brew writes of the Nameless I like this album a lot I don't know if I like it more than Ceremon but it's good I have to give it some more time now I haven't given enough listens yet a band called Obsidian Kingdom Meat Machine it's their fourth release they're Spanish and no they are not through Greece they actually are Spanish I believe progressive metal avant-garde

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a solid release. I will take issue with you guys talking about worse album covers. Go look at this album cover. Yeah, it's pretty fucked up. That was, I was like, this is a prog album? Cover like this? Yeah. Meat Machine is also a good nickname for Will. Yeah. Double Meat Machine. Beefstick the Mighty. And I Meat Train. Yeah, there's some kind of theme with that album cover, but,

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It's not doing it for me. Did you think it was like Grancor? Yeah, that's what it looks like. Yeah, no. All their covers are really strange. So The Ocean, we've mentioned. I like this album a lot. It probably plays pretty high on my list, I would think, at the end of the year. New one here. I'd never heard of this band before. The band's called The Reticent, and the album's called The Oubliette. This is, I guess, the fourth release from a progressive metal band out of North Carolina.

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I think it's one guy but I think there's now a band I'm not sure but this is quite an album it is basically the content lyrical content is about the seven stages of Alzheimer's disease and I guess the main guy from the band is retelling a story of a family member of his and it is quite emotional and it's kind of hard to listen to but it's really good but at times you just like you get kind of depressed listening because when you when

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You know the theme. Yeah. Yeah. Sure. Listen to that. I saw your post about that and I went and listened to it and you are right. It is hands down some of the saddest fucking thing. Yeah. I've ever listened to. But at the same time you feel I feel kind of good for him because it's cathartic. I think that he wrote this album and played it. Some of the riffs are very older Opethian type riffs. I guess some previous albums had more of a tool

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vibe to them. He's a very talented guy and he's a drummer too.

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I think by trade, but really good album. I might make my list.

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We'll see. I got to give it some more listens. We mentioned spirit adrift.

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I like this album. I don't know if I like it as much as divided by darkness,

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but I, I liked these last two albums from them a lot.

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Last time I started doing this thing called, I didn't call it anything,

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but I'm calling it like a vault out. I did Gorguts last time.

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And this time, a lot of my older album playing was from Van Halen, and I'll just throw up there that Fair Warning got a lot of listens this last, I don't know how many days. If you don't know anything about the band and never heard it, I would suggest going there, but if not, you know. Can't start, no, that'd be a great place to start. Can't start in a better spot than that. And if anything, just listen to the first 43 seconds of the album, and you'll just know that that's the guitarist you wish you were. You know, John, I have a state.

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I'd say he's responsible for a lot of people wanting to play the guitar. I'd say he's more responsible for a lot of people quitting playing the guitar. Yeah, exactly. In my album of the month, it should be no surprise. It's enslaved. Udgard, whatever you want to say. We've said enough about it. Not much more to say about it. Udgard, son of Udgard.

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As Jay once said, he realized one day, I think this is one of my favorite bands, and that's the truth. They're one of my favorite bands. So not much more to say about it. I'll be shocked if that's not in your top five. Or a lot of people. Or his top one. Actually, no. You never know with John. John throws some curveballs. I could see that. Will gets a Jay Award. That's fine. I will say this, though. One thing I do want to say, I don't mention as many.

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to what I'm listening to. But please, if you do check out our Facebook page, check out on Fridays. You'll see I put a lot more stuff, a lot of stuff that I listened to one time. I'll just throw up there. But I know Markisan and Matt post a lot of stuff times. George and Jay will go to there sometimes. You know, it's funny. I used to do it all the time. And then I just stopped. And it's almost like by Friday, I'm just so overwhelmed. I can't even think about it. Oh, yeah.

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But we all post albums on there and definitely check it out because there's a lot more that we post that we don't mention here on the podcast. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I post a lot. I know Matt does too. But I used to do like descriptions for everything and do, you know, all of the words, but I might not do as much of that in the future just so I can get some of those albums out because I usually have a pretty long list. Yeah. It gets tough when you've got a lot to listen to. Yeah. I usually get on and

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I get out every Friday. I used to comment a little bit, but since my new position at work, I don't fucking have time. So I'll just look through and see what everyone's listening to and just make a fucking Spotify playlist of it. Perfect. Yeah. Check stuff out. That's what it's there for. That's exactly what it's there for. Yeah. I mean, Friday's a tough day to do it too. Getting into the weekend, wrapping up the week, you're fucking fried. But you know, at the same time, it's like, I mean, we, I mean, the one non shitty thing about 2020 is there has been so much good stuff.

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as we kicked out every day.

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And I mean,

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and John does it every Friday.

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So regardless,

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if we post something underneath that,

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John's always going to have some good albums to recommend on the main post.

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Thank you.

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And if you could just do one thing,

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if you do check it out,

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but don't have time to post just like it because the more people who engage,

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it shows up in more feeds then because you know,

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that algorithm thing.

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So we've noticed that when more people are engaged,

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It seems to drum up some more interest. All right, then. Will? All right, I will be brief. First and foremost, Ilsa Pryor. Ilsa is a local DC band. They play Atlas all the damn time. Great dudes. They play a black and crust doom. Great album. Check it out. I know some of you guys don't like Premier Man.

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They're kind of in the primitive man vein. Man vein. Stop turning me off. Well done. I'm surprised no one's mentioned this yet. Mortis Skulled. Yeah. Suffering for Nothing. What a great album. Yeah. Just old school death metal done right. And for Arbruto we already mentioned Gorophilia.

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Mentioned, In the Eyes of Nothing, that's their album. And I just got the four, finally, after months and months and months, got the four Napalm Death, Decibel reissues on vinyl. Hey, Will, who released those? I think that was Markisan. Hey, Will, who released those vinyl albums? Decibel, I think. Century Media.

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months and months and months thing. Yeah, you got it. I still haven't gotten mine. When did you get them, Will? I got them yesterday. It was funny because I was playing Time Waits for No Slave, which I almost forgot how much I love that album. I put the vinyl on. I'm like, God, this is such a good album. It's a very good album. And hey, Marcus, I mute your mic before you flush the toilet. I don't know. Why would I deprive you of that? Did you really hear the foil? Oh, yeah. With the door shut?

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What? Holy shit. That's a microphone. You got a big sheer, a good mic. One or the other. Did you hear me tinkle? No. It was very Archie Bunker-like, Marcus. Did you hear me cry out Will's Dame when I talk about it? Will! Armageddon! No, but it was funny last night that... Not funny. Funny is not the right word. It was interesting last night that I was playing a lot of the Napalm Death, Time Waits for a New Slave, on vinyl.

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And then we were having these rolling power outages here in the D.C. area. Yeah, it was pretty. I texted John last night because, like, John, are you getting these? He's like, no, I'm not getting them. It was pretty bad. They kept going out. They would go out and they would be out for, like, a minute and they would come back on. And it happened, like, seven or eight times throughout the night. And everyone kept saying, oh, welcome to California. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it was literally only two counties that happened in Delwell. I checked. Yeah, yeah, it was Alexandria and Alexandria. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you're not in Fairfax County.

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That's why. Yeah. But anyway, so I was spending a lot of the time waits for no slave and I got a utilitarian apex predator, which is not, you know, I just kind of got it because it was part of the whole decimal package and smear campaign. Those are all good. I know they're good. Apex predator is not. Yes, it is. It's good. It's not my favorite. No, but it's good. It's yeah. I think

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I do like the new one a lot except for the last song was just kind of like weird. It's just weird. Yeah. The new one's really good but like Code Is Red is one of my favorite last ones. I like the Jell-O-B-O-F-R song on that. I like all of them but there's a Jell-O-B-O-F-R sings a song on that and he starts it out with Napalm Death Take 14 Maximum Distortion. Yeah.

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I think Apex Predator fits in fine with those. No, I think it's great. I mean, I have, you know, after having done a deep dive, I have my preferences, but it's definitely up there. Yeah. Code is Red is one of my favorites. Utilitarian, I think is really good. Yeah. And then my album I want to talk about the most, but I'm not really going to talk about it because we've already talked about it. It was Wayfair, Romance for Violence. I have to admit, I think Old Souls,

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is probably my favorite from them and then um world's blood i didn't like as much because i liked old old souls um that much more but when i saw wayfarer play to atlas live that's the the famous night where all the power went out i'll show my kids the youtube video of this we were uh somebody videotaped it you could see me running like the power goes out

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It was actually during say or not during

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Soar as you as they pronounce it

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It was during their set but like you see me like running behind the stage

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Like open up the breaker box something breaker back on

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But when I saw Wayfair that night, first of all, they are the nicest goddamn dudes

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And they put on a hell of a live show and then when I saw them play a lot of world's blood

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live

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to switch for me a little bit more on that album yes exactly

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and then uh yeah and then so i really like this this new one um it's good chance it'll be on my list

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like it all right black metal all right i'll be pretty quick um just read some things pretty quick here human

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barbecue bloodstained altars carcass classical record dude carcass uh despicable nobody's mentioned

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I have listened to that multiple times. I fucking love Trevor's Buddies Band and Fury of Sunless Realms. Yeah, yeah. I'm struggling with that. I'm trying to decide what to do with that list wise because I think they consider it a record. It's an EP. Fuck. Rats. Honestly, that's a lister, but I will respect the EP thing. The Eternal Champion stuff, John, you had shared that. I had just bought those actually, strangely, and I pre-ordered the new one and you could only buy it if you bought the vinyl. So I've been listening.

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to the last one and the new song i like those guys they're cool and all nathrock has

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mentioned has resonated with me the water records still i'm spinning and that is in danger of taking a very high

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spot on my list this year now but you want to hear question about you ought to um did you guys read the

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dustful magazine article like the cover or whatever what no i only read the ads and the reviews

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I read the article. James should be happy about that. I read his work. What did you think of that article? Oh, I didn't read it. My death of a lapse a little while ago. I got to read it. It gave you a lot of good history about the band and everything. Did you have a problem with it, Will? It just seemed like the answers they were given, they were trying to be so

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I had to stop reading it. I couldn't read it anymore. But I love the music. They're trying to promote that mystery. Yeah, yeah. It was... It just drove me nuts. I literally just stopped reading it after a while. I mean, I'm not as high in that album as everybody else. There's that one track where they just talk for like, I don't know how fucking long. We talk for however long. Come on.

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I was trying to think if is it it's not that track there's a different one and is it Vincent Price's voice in there that's something whatever lived in this world before has been since replaced by maybe it's not even that record now maybe I'm thinking of the N. Ferry record anyway I'll go find it it's not the one it's not what you're talking about anyway to continue on I also by the way

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que são os dois, que são a minha lista, e o La Ser Trapul, que é o perfeito

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Halloween record, é um... É um... É um... É um... É uma questão de que eu quero dizer que, você sabe que, eu acho que,

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I appreciate that John did what he calls a vault album because I also tend to fall into weird rabbit holes and I found the Judas Priest rabbit hole again which I've done many years in a row over many years for many years 30 40 years whatever it is and right now I'm stuck between Hellbent for Leather or as John would prefer I call it Killing Machine up to British Steel.

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Well, Screaming for Vengeance has gone on a little bit less, but that group of albums, including Unleashed in the East, which, by the way, I've been meaning to ask you two things about Unleashed in the East. K.K. Downing talks about it in his biography, and apparently the Unleashed in the studio bullshit was because, at least he outs him on it, that Rob had a bad night. Everything else, there are mistakes on that record, guitar mistakes, so I think they really just did the vocals again. Second, if you haven't got it, I could forward it to you, but there are four bonus tracks that were on some digital version I got a while back. Do you have those?

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Okay, yeah. Yeah, it's three songs off of Killing Machine and then one song off of Sin After Sin. Yeah, Starbreaker. And so it's like Starbreaker, Delivering the Goods, Hellbent for Leather, and Rock Forever. Yeah. But I highly recommend it to anybody who hasn't heard those because they're from the same, it has to be the same show or at least the same group of shows and they fit right into it. Which that was the tour for Killing Machine, so it's relevant. And then also, as mentioned,

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I picked up some vinyl I didn't have. And one was I didn't have point of entry for some reason. And I've totally turned myself around on that record. And the Judas Priest Live, which I don't know if you downloaded it yet, but I know two people said they wanted it. So one of you guys has to beat the other one to it. I have not. I already downloaded it. But you know what? But try it, Will, and see if it works. We can put it in the mega. Yeah, put it in mega. Everybody can have it. I found it interesting that you mentioned that,

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and you're like you have to go through the turbo songs to get to the uh defenders of the

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faith songs and i was like if you guys just want i'll give you the 30th anniversary

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live show that came with defenders of the faith it has all those songs and not the turbo songs

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do it john do it yeah yeah do it i because i have to say i was shopping online and i saw that 30th

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which i don't have and i was like i should totally fucking have that yeah and i looked at that set list

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this kick-ass too. Yeah. Yeah. So, all right. Okay. Regarding that in Fairy release that could be an EP, remember, there's no rules. No, it's not. I only said that because they said it's an EP. No, no, no. And I asked, but I kind of like that record so much. I don't know how long it is. I just said that because in the promo materials that came out, it said it was an EP. But there's no rules. There's no fucking rules. Just to be clear. No rules, just right.

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If Carcass puts out a 10 second song, that counts as a full length. Carcass is doing grind? 10 seconds, that's a whole grind album. Carcass EP is a full length. Actually, Matt, let me take you back to several episodes back where you said that the Carcass, I don't care if the Carcass record comes out or not, it's on my list. So you were willing to put up a favor. Matt's all for vaporware at this point. Yeah, it's called a placeholder. Yes.

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It leaves me only to reveal my obvious album of the episode, which would be Enslaved. It's kind of running the table, but it's that good. I've certainly listened to it as much as and more than anything else this year thus far. Booyah. Thanks to the big GEO. Yep. All right. Well, it's a short list, so y'all can stay awake. What? No. I am changing my ways. What?

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This is scary. Who are you? I don't even know who you are. I know, right? So my first one, this album is like me at a cookout. It's Brat Hog. Wait, that's the name of the band? B-R-O-T-T-H-O-G-G. Brat Hog. If there's brats on me. Your list is already too long, George. No, seriously though, this is their second album.

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They're a Norwegian black death band. It's called The Die Is Cast. And seriously, if you have not listened to this, it should be in the promo box. Yeah, we got the promo for this, right? It's good. Their first album was good. It veers into sausage. It's not really broad. I'm just making a joke because of how I'm probably not pronouncing it right. Look at how chubby Matt's fingers are. Look at those fucking fingers. There you go. Look at those bras. Matt, can you will me your finger loins so I can eat them when you die?

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All right. Moving on to my second album, The Infernal Sea, Negotium Crucis. Wait, did you guys just understand what just happened? He went from B to I. Yeah. That was amazing. Did you guys notice that? Yes, George! It's like he just went through a black hole in space and came out the other end. I'm like, I'm at I now! You know, my short list is going to be long if you keep interrupting me.

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This is the third album from a UK black metal band. It's good. You should check it out. I like their last album as well. This next, the third one here, Will mentioned it and I'm glad he did. This is the new Mortis Skulled album, Sulfur for Nothing. It's their sixth album. They're a Milwaukee death metal band and I can spoiler us just a little bit and say that assuming nothing goes wrong, David Greger from Mortis Skulled will be on our next episode.

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All right, moving on. Necrophobic, Dawn of the Damned, ninth album from a Swedish death metal band. It's not going to be a lister, but it's listenable. It's pretty cool. I'm eating crow with this next one, so I want you to be aware of that, of Feather and Bone, Sulphuric Disintegration. It's their second album. They're a Denver death metal band. I wasn't all that enthused about their first album.

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It's just, you know, there's subtle differences between the first and the second album that really made it for me. I went back and listened to the first album again because Markisan was like, you're a fucking idiot. And I was like, all right, I mean, in the context of the second album, it's not that bad. I mean, it's listenable. It's listenable to me. But this, I definitely think the second album is better. Production is a little bit muddy. I don't, you know what, George, as long as you're, you're getting into the band, you know, I think they're just one of the best death metal bands out there. So, you know, I, I, we've got this.

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We've got the promo. And I wasn't even listening on headphones. I just happened to be in the car and I was like, let me just throw this on so I can discount it real quick. And I was like, I was in a pretty shitty mood as I usually am. And I was like, fucking yeah. And I was like, okay, I like this. Because I listened to Feather Bone. I thought it was fucking garbage. The first one, that's what I thought. But the second one is definitely bad.

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I feel like y'all were confusing with a feather and boner

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two different different shot and my last item jumping from O to T

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that didn't even register on Will's face

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Is he frozen? He's actually asleep, but his eyes are open. He's in shock. Trident North, their second album. They're a Swedish death black band featuring the guitar player from Dissection. And it's got a bit of a Dissection-y vibe to it. Actually, there's something else about that one. Hold on. Let me just make sure that's the record. I think it is. Do you know who the singer of that is? That's the dude.

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Who left Kvelte Tuck. Oh, really? Yeah, that's his band. Oh, I don't like it anymore then. At least he's doing metal now. Let me kind of make sure I know that's true. I love that my list is longer than George's. Well, if we're going to measure, I'm fine. I was just looking up when Feather and Bone played at Atlas, and I thought it was one of the early

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But it was one of the middle shows. And they played with two Mold. Ilsa, Feather and Bone, and hold on. What was the other band? I think it was like a Outer Heaven. Oh, wow. Mold, Outer Heaven. That's a show. That's a fucking show. That's like a cooler ice. I know. Every now and again, I can pull some shit together at Atlas. At least I used to be able to. Yeah, back when the world existed. Yeah.

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You're listening to the Metalheads Podcast. Now with 33% more length. Schwing. All right, so Metal Thunderdome. It was my turn, but because I'm an indecisive fuck, I abdicated and moved it on to Markasson, who then chose what was my very first choice to begin with that I couldn't commit to. And that would be...

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Iron Maiden's Power Slave versus Judas Priest's Defenders of the Faith. Yeah, I mean, I chose this Thunderdome because we were talking about Rob Halford's new book and about Priest songs on Messenger. And amazingly, we have not had Priest or Maiden on Thunderdome until right now. I was waiting to do Priest versus Maiden. I just couldn't commit because I just couldn't. Well, I could. I could. So I, you know, I'd say the charge.

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We did do a website based in it and made in one by marginal percent. But that was band versus band. And it was official Thunderdome. In any case, well, let's rock it. So Jeff and Steph, if you have an opinion, maiden power slave or priest defenders. And you're probably like, they were both before I was born. I don't fucking know. I'm curious to see how this is going to go.

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They're like,

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what are you talking about?

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They're both definitely before our time.

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But six years before you were born.

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Yep.

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Way before I was born.

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84.

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But,

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uh,

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I've got to say,

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I,

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I listened to both albums all the way through for the last week or when George sent me to list.

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And they're both,

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they both start off great.

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I mean,

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fucking defenders of the face.

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It has free will burning. Yeah, it does. One of the great openers, by the way. Yes. One of the great opening tracks. Iron Maiden has aces high. One of the great opening tracks, by the way. And so it was pretty difficult for me to choose. But I started a metal journey through Iron Maiden from Number of the Beast because I thought this is the evil

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I've ever fucking heard.

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And so I have to go with.

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Iron Maiden.

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Fair enough.

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All right.

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Not between the two albums,

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but between the two bands.

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I would probably go with Judas Priest.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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Fair enough.

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She's more metal than me.

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All right.

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Markisan.

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Markisan.

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Yeah.

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I mean, I'll be honest, I still haven't decided I'm going to have to now, drunkenly. Pitting these bands against each other is basically resurrecting that old school rivalry that the bands had with each other. It's pretty well documented and discussed over the years. And these are two great albums for 84. It's like right at the height of the feud, I would think. Yes, these were both the albums that I got into for these bands. They were the first albums for both these bands. And that was what I remember reading about.

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was like in like hip parader and shit. They were all like, oh, Iron Maiden versus Jesus Priest. Oh my God. Oh my God. They hate each other. And of course they didn't. No, they did actually. Did they really? Oh, they said they didn't. Priest hated Maiden. Oh, that's right. Because of the, in the, in the KK book. There were a lot of weird comments, but then they also talked about working on stuff together over the years. Yeah. But yeah, no, that was, that was sort of what made me think, well, we should do that because that,

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It was the big rivalry in the 80s. Right. Except you didn't decide. I decided. You did. You did. You get the credit. I'm just flapping my lips. Yeah. Marcosan's balls are not in his wife's purse, so he decided. It's right. I feel like you guys are letting me. What are these balls you speak of? Exactly. Huevos. I think you're supposed to say that a little higher in the register there, George. What are these balls you speak of? Anyway, go ahead.

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Jesus Christ. I love it. He's pregnant. He probably needs it. Same meal. And what is it? Because, you know, it's a burrito bowl. All right. Defenders of the Faith, such a great album, came out after Screaming for Vengeance. So I had a lot to live up to. I think it delivered with some of Priest's best songwriting, but Power Slave by Maiden is just loaded with great songs. Aces High, like was mentioned,

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Minutes to Midnight, and one of my all-time favorite songs, The Rhyme of the Ancient Mariner. So, fuck, it's hard to decide on this one. I don't know why I picked this particular one, because it's probably the hardest one I've had to decide on. I've listened to them both multiple times, and today I am going to go with Defenders of the Faith.

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I think maybe it's because he has just picked up a Judas Priest album. Maybe because I got the book and I'm into Judas Priest right now. But I really enjoyed listening to this. Again, I love Power Slave as well. It's got some of my favorite songs, but I am going to go Defenders of the Fame. All right. Sausage Stewart. I'm going to keep it quick.

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I'm going to go with Judas Maiden, Defenders of the Power Slave. Wise choice. Quite a bit. No, I mean, behind Number of the Beast, Power Slave is my second favorite Maiden album. So, Rob, I know you're listening and I love you, but I'm sorry, I have to go with Iron Maiden, Power Slave. I always kind of try to guess what you guys all are going to choose, and I'm always fucking wrong.

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Like with every one of you, honestly. Did you see the article? I love Maiden more, you know, but in this particular case, I'm going with it. This is a tough night. And I'm also foreshadowing on to our top five because. Which we haven't even gotten to yet. I was stressed AF about that. And then you guys were like, oh, let's do Middle Thunderdome. And I'm like, hey, maybe I need to go down to the gas station and get more ice for my crotch.

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Because you mentioned Rob, did anybody else see that article about Sebastian Bach and Rob Halford? Yes. I'm sorry, Rob Halford is the fucking most badass. I'm not sure if I did see it. I did not. Okay, well, it's kind of graphic, but Steph already knows about it, so I'll say it. Sebastian Bach was on a...

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Sebastian Bach was on a podcast and they were talking about how he said something about how Rob Halford doesn't even warm up before shows and how badass that was. And the guy that was running the podcast, I don't know, it's like sex, drugs and rock and roll podcast or something like that, made a completely inappropriate comment about how Rob Halford probably has a gay routine and that he probably,

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Guzzles come before, and that that's why he didn't want to tell Bach what his routine was. And Sebastian Bach, to his credit, because I don't usually back him, he was like, fuck you. I'm paraphrasing. But essentially, he walked out because he was offended by that. But then Rob Halford, being the god of metal that he is, was later on the same podcast.

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And they brought up the Sebastian Bach thing and he said, well, I don't gargle, I swallow. He said he loves Sebastian Bach and appreciated him that he swallows and that he would love to have a roast of him at some point because he would love to do that. So that was pretty cool. I mean, you know, Rob Helfer just fucking owned that shit. Yeah, that was really good.

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Rob's comfortable in his,

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he's comfortable in his,

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wait,

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is Rob gay?

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If the lights are off,

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well,

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it ain't that gay.

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You know what I mean?

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If it happens a decibel,

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it's not.

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It's only gay.

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Holy shit.

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No,

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no.

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I want to,

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I want to mention one thing real quick.

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And that for my son's birthday,

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one of his birthday presents was my son loves Lemmy.

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So I got him the Reaction Super 7 Lemmy figure and I also got him the Rob Halford figure and my son had way more questions about what Rob was wearing. He's like, why is there a bullwhip? What's he wearing? What costume? That's surprising because don't you wear the same outfit? I know. Don't you see me? I coach baseball in this outfit. That's right. John.

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So I did not agonize over this because it was pretty simple for me. I went with Maiden all the way. Every day. I'm not a big Defenders of the Faith fan like you guys are. Yeah. It's okay. I mean, and it's actually. Now we know how George is voting. I mean, it's actually been ruined for me with this album being on the podcast because anytime I think of songs like Jawbreaker, Rock Hard, Ride Free. Yeah.

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Stop this podcast right now. No, it's different when we do it because we love him. Yes, we do. It's not even in my top five Judas Priest albums. So and for me, this is one of Maiden's best albums. If anything, it's probably the pinnacle of what they did in their careers at that point, which is kind of crazy to think that was only five albums in, but that's how I view it. And Marcus already mentioned three great songs, but then there's the deep

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tracks on that album that are great like the Duelists you know and Lost for Words is one of the best metal instrumentals ever in my opinion. They can't think of any words could they? I can't believe nobody we all have been saying songs nobody said that. Sean you make me want to change my mind. And the greatest thing about Lost for Words is if you bought the second release of that album where they added the three bonus tracks to Live After Death you'll get Lost for Words on that and there's a great intro from Bruce you know he has the great

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This is what not to do if your bird shits on you. For Rhyming Ancient Mariner. But for Lost for Words, he says, there's not even any bloody words on it. Oh, well. Lost for Words. And he kind of home hoes it off and he walks off and then he just rips into some amazing version. I've heard that, yeah. No sick of that at all. Yeah. You got fucking Rhyming Ancient Mariner. So it's all, for me, it's made in all the way. Go the distance. I did. Easy to stay. I'm talking to Markisan. John, you did great.

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If you build it, they will come. Thank you. This one is really tough for me. I could go either way. John almost sways me to like change my vote. I love Ben. Change your mind. Everybody's doing it. I can't even remember what Markazan's vote was. It was priest, wasn't it? Do it. It was. Let's get to Will. Do it. Suicide solution. Do it. Do it. Some sausage whisperer. I don't have time for that. Sausage whisperer.

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It's the rainbow. Chase the rainbow. So I thought this one was going to be easy. And then I went back and listened to both albums today a little bit. And then it kind of boiled down to me for kind of like when we

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did, Rust in Peace and Justice for All. One is a great album. One is, in someone's opinion, is their best album. So with Iron Maiden, I think you have two of the best songs they ever did, which is Ace is High and Two Minutes at Midnight, by far. I mean, any concert you go to, any show, they're going to play both those songs. And they're going to be two of the best songs they play. And then you have, you know,

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Lost for Words, not the biggest fan of the instrumental stuff, especially from those guys. It was Bruce at his peak, so Bruce, take us some fucking words and sing them. It's called he takes a break so his voice doesn't burn out. He's got to go take a pee. Or he just doesn't come back and then he just plays a song that has vocals and then John gets pissed because he waited 35 years to see that song. But when I listen to Power Slave,

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There's no bad song on that album. There's no bad song on the other album. Except Keep Me Alive. Because I think of Ace's High and Two Minutes to Midnight and even Rhyme of the Ancient Mariner and even, dare I say, the slightly doomier Power Slave song. You just have two standout songs and the rest are, they're not filler, but it's a sort of, wow, those other two songs are good. And then I go to Judas Priest.

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And I think about this, and it's no secret, this is my favorite Judas Priest album. You just go through the list of songs, in my mind, and you got, you know, 10 songs that are just great. Except when the night comes down, it's a little power ballad kind of thing. It's still good. Yeah, it's still good. But like, even the heavy duty is slow, but then it kind of morphs into Defenders of the Faith. And, you know, I mean, how do you not love a song, I love an album that has Jawbreaker,

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and rock hard, ride free on it. You didn't even know what Jawbreaker was until I told you. Well, I know. But the Sentinel. When you're gagging and telling me at the same time, like, oh, now I get it, John. One of my all-time favorite songs ever and Judas Priest songs is the Sentinel. I'm going with Judas Priest. Ooh, this is going to be close. So, George, you were 100% wrong about this. How so? Because you thought it was going to go one way.

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Like you thought power. Oh, it's tied right now, isn't it? Right. No, but when he first thought about doing this, he thought it would be. Well, I kind of thought Will would go priest and I was right about that, but I. Right. I believe Will picked that album as his best of the top 50 when we did it. Didn't you, Will? Well, it's his favorite priest album. It is my favorite priest album. And that fits fully with his logic on the Megadeth versus. Yeah, yeah. I knew it would be a tougher decision. That's why. When you mentioned.

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about... If you couldn't commit, I decided that I was going to do this one and I knew it would be tougher. If you can't commit, you must have quit. Exactly. Well, you mentioned something that I am not going to try and quote because I can't remember. But the point being is these are both my favorite albums from these bands. Oh. Oh. I didn't know that, George. Yes. Power Slave is my favorite Maiden album. Defenders is my favorite Priest album. Wow. I guess you're fucked.

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Yep.

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Because it's kind of like saying, it always feels like you're saying, I don't like the other one.

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And that's not what you're saying.

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Right.

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Well, that brings it to me.

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And I would have thought that my, I think that people might assume I would go one way on this.

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Who fucking knows what you guys would assume.

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But in any case, this is hard.

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This is a Sophie's Choice without question.

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I'm surprised when you guys were talking about deep tracks that nobody said Back in the Village, because that's a fucking great song.

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It is.

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I fucking love to death.

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And Power Slave is, you know, a monument of fucking 80s metal. You know, it's sort of like one of the shining examples of what happened. On the other hand, and I, John and I never diverge so far. I wouldn't say we don't ever diverge, but on Priest, our opinions about Priest are extremely similar in that we both prefer 70s Priest. But, you know, I think we understand and love the 80s Priest. So all of that is to kind of bring me up to a kind of probably a

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weird surprise choice but the truth is is that i think as great as screaming for vengeance is i think that um defenders of the faith was probably just priests definitive 80s metal statement and um not turbo and at the end of the day as much as i and this is probably because of the phase i'm going through right now which is revisiting the priest again i've often i have often sort of thought uh bruce was is you know he's easily one of the top three

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I don't say enough that Rob is. I might like Rob better. Truth. At the end of the day. I don't know. I'd have to think about it. With all of that stated, this is really hard, but I'm going Defenders of the Faith. I do love it. I think it's a great fucking record. But I'll say here's probably my deciding factor. I'm more likely to put Defenders of the Faith on these days than I would be a power slave. I don't know if that was true in the 80s, but that's the one I would put on if I had those two records in the car. I would have put the Priest album on.

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That's not a lot to go on because they're both amazing. And again, it feels like you're saying you don't like one, but that's where my vote goes. Yeah, they're both great for sure. Yeah. So where's the count stand? That puts us one ahead on defenders, I believe. To your point, Jay, if I could hang out with either Bruce or Rob, I would choose Rob. Me too. I think he's more of an everyman's man. Bruce is kind of just like a media package now.

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You'd probably definitely have more fun with Rob. You would. Yeah. Totally. Totally. I don't know. I don't mean it like that. Easy. Easy. See, for me, Scott Travis wasn't on the album yet, so I mean. Yeah, because it's, let's see, Jay, me, Will, and Steph. Right? No, Steph. We're all priests. Right? Jeff went maiden. John went maiden.

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And Matt went maiden. So it's 4-3 right now. Wow. We have too many people. So you can judge. No, not really. I mean, George already had his, he already decided long ago. He knew. It was preordained in the days before time began. George. Maybe I do know which way this is going. George, does Barb, does Barb get a vote? No. Go get her. Yeah. But if she did, she would go maiden because she's seen them live and she hasn't seen priest. Okay. See. See.

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So, you know, it's funny because, as I said, both of these are my favorite albums by this band. They were the first albums from this band for me. And I remember both. Really? Are you serious? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Back in 84. That was when I got into them. Was it A Foreigner of Boston and Toto before this? No, I was listening to like, you know, Quiet Riot, Scorpions, Ozzy, Sabbath, Dio, stuff like that.

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Yeah, I have that record.

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But, you know, well, this is funny.

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In hindsight, this is funny because both the first songs,

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Ace is High and Free Will Burning, when I heard them, I was like, whoa, this is heavy.

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This is a little much.

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I don't know about this.

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Sure.

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You know, in retrospect, that's hilarious because, you know,

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death metal was around the corner.

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But, yeah, this was tough because Power Slave,

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The Ancient Mariner, Defenders of the Faith, The Sentinel. What are you going to do? It's rough. God, The Sentinel. Do you know I made a beer called The Sentinel? Yeah, yeah. Nice. Yeah, I mean. It was a smoked blood red ale, which went with the lyrics. Yeah. Nice. So, okay, Jay, you predicted. What are you predicting for me? Defenders of the Faith. But I didn't know Paraslave was your favorite maiden record. Why I didn't know that, I don't know. But I knew that Defenders of the Faith.

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I don't think anybody knew that from your previous comment I'm thinking you're going power slave I am too yeah me too I am going power slave yeah we are tied that's why you said we need more people that's why I said we need more people thank god Stephanie's here yeah so I just can I can I wrap up this segment by having gone through a priest phase of late and still kind of in the middle of it I'd like

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to share my most suggestive Rob lyric. Suggestive. Now that we all know he's gay. And you know, when you go back and look at him, and I'm not picking a Rob, but it's in the song Running Free. Or no, excuse me, Running Wild. Speaking of Maiden. And the song, and the, I shouldn't even say this, but I don't care. But the lyric is, I take on all comers. So there you go. You know, in almost any other situation, Defenders of the Faith would beat just about anything. That's great. It really is.

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I mean, I freaking love that album. And that's why I picked it. I knew this was going to be a good one. Well, honestly, I honestly, it means perfect. I thought that like everybody but Will was going to go Maiden. You know, the irony is though that they, okay, so we had that. And then before that we had never, those guys were neck and neck. And then what happened that following year, they both discovered guitar sense. One of them made a good record and one of them did not. Turbo and, and,

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Yeah, they both discovered those, the guitar synths, and they were like, we never said we'd have keyboards, but then we discovered this, and I remember, which one of those came out first? Do you guys remember? I thought it was the, I mean, same year, like 86. It's the same year. It doesn't matter, but I just, because my memory would be, if Turbo came out first, I'd have been very worried about the Maiden record, but if Maiden came out first, I might have been like, well, this Priest thing could be okay, but it was not. Well, you know that Turbo was supposed to be twin Turbo, and that

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Ram It Down was supposed to be the second half of that. They're also just not good songs. But I like, but I mean, I'm not a huge Ram It Down fan other than the fact that it's got Blood Red Skies. Is that the one with, I hate to not know that, but is it, is Johnny B. good on that one? Yes, it is. Did you read the story in KK's book about... Yeah, they always wanted them to do some sort of cover and they were like, fuck that. But they were going to do it for a movie and they had two choices.

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And they got to literally choose to either put a song on the Top Gun soundtrack or some other movie you've never heard of. And I literally can't remember what it was. And K.K. Downing was like, and we're not really famous for making good choices. And he goes, just so you know, we chose this movie, blah, blah, blah. And he says the name of the movie. He goes, that's right. You've never heard of this movie. Had they put it on Top Gun, it would have been a, they would have put some money in their pockets. That was Anthony Michael Hall was in that movie. He was a football player. It was Johnny B. Good.

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Oh, oh, so there you go. Hence, that's what pushed it. It's a terrible movie. Well, there you go. So. All right. Well, that was a fun one. That was painful. Oh, yeah. George, so you got to trust your instincts. I tried to give you this one. I know. I know. You said that you came up with it before. I was like, you should do it as yours. I mean, I had some other ones, too, but I don't remember what they are. And who's good because it is time for the tough. Well, no, I mean, in terms of, I mean, the next Thunderdome. Well, it'd be George.

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We skipped George because George didn't want to come up. I'll try and come up with something for next one. I did it. I believe in you, George. Let's do like Gaga, Madonna. Yeah, we go. No, let's not do that at all. Gaga versus Cyrus. Or you could put two live up. You'll get it. I'll figure something out. You have two episodes, George, because we have to do the results. Technically, I have three episodes because we've got next episode, which is the results. Then we have year

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And then I'll have another episode. So you there's no excuse for you. No excuses. There's no excuse for you, George. There is not. I cannot deny that.

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All right, let's move on to the top five. I said, Jeff, what do you want to do? He said, I don't know, maybe top five death metal albums. Jesus. And everybody screamed and said, oh, no. Yeah, sorry about that. No, no, no, it's fine, but I will say this. It was just sort of like, this is even worse than what we just did, because it's sort of like, you're leaving out 800 records. Yeah, well, you know what I did? I, uh, I left

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I took off the professor glasses and I set them aside and I said I'm not going with what historically and whatever the best death metal albums might be. I said I'm going to do the top five that I reach for every day. Okay. Yeah. And so that's going to be a very vastly different list. Your fingers, right? Yeah. Sometimes those two things line up. But so there's a lot of my honorable mentions will be the stuff

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on everybody else's list.

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Yeah, of course.

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Yeah.

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Let's get right into this.

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I said, let's ride this rocket.

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Jeff.

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She's like, I want to drink my beer.

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Come on.

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That's true.

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But I also am curious to hear.

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So long as what George said, I didn't go for what's, I don't know, popular death metal.

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I guess I did, but I went for what I like.

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And number five is Sentinex, Doomsday Rituals.

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Nice.

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Oh, it's a good one. Good bad. It's a fucking great one. Swedish death. Yes. Good. Nice. Nice choice. Markisan. All right. My number five. So when I was going through this, I love death metal. So there's a lot of old school death metal albums that, of course, I have to consider for my list. But one of the challenges was, hey, is there anything new that really gets

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me that I really spin a lot. And I put it at number five. And it came out last year. And it is Cattle Decapitation Death Atlas on Metal Blade Records from 2019. I just listened to that a couple days ago as part of prep for this. Yeah. I mean, we get a lot of death metal, but there are very few albums in the genre that really push the boundaries, I think. And Death Atlas does that. It's heavy. It's intense. But it's also really

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It's very melodic. It's innovative. It has a real thoughtfulness behind the songs. It tackles world issues in a very apocalyptic sci-fi way, which I appreciated. And the production is just amazing on it. And I really have not stopped spinning it since it came out on vinyl, you know, on Bandcamp. So it makes it to my top five, Cattle Decapitation.

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And can I just add that along those lines, the fact that God Hates Us All came out on September 11th, 2001. How ironic that Bring Back the Plague is the single in this one. Too weird, the timing on it. Can I just add that Will pushes my boundaries? Of course. He's already stretched that boundary out. That's right, yeah. In this case, boundaries is a euphemism indeed. Oh, yeah.

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Or a very specific. Hey, Jeff. I had to go look it up. Sentinex was my number three album in 2016. Nice. Oh, he's gone. Sorry. Tell him when he comes back. Hey, Stephanie, tell him that. I'll tell him that. There you go. Sausage. Okay. So to not stress myself out even more, I had to set up some parameters. And part of it is just what relates to me.

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And if I'm going to do a top five of death, it's going to be these five bands. Granted, I could have taken one band and filled all these spots with their albums, but I broke it down into bands. My number five, strangely enough, the first time I saw this band live, it was on an arena tour with Pantera. It was Pantera, Soulfly, this band, and Nothing Face. And I had to go back to, obviously, their earlier stuff. I don't listen to their newer stuff as much.

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But it was kind of a choice between their A album and their C album. And really, when it came down to it, I like the riffs better. The band is on their C album. The album, or I'm sorry, the band is Morbid Angel. The album is Covenant. Covenant. Very good choice, too. You were losing me with the math there. I'm like, wait, A before C. Wait, no, C. But like their thing is their albums go like alphabetically. Yes, they do. I knew where he was going when he said the A or the C.

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I've always loved.

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Altars of Madness?

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Skip the I album, by the way.

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Right.

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But anything after E.

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Wait, no, anything after D is fucking useless.

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Until you get to K.

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Although I don't mind F as much, but F you.

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But B, you missed B.

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I mean, come on.

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M is for metal.

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That's good enough for me.

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All right. So I did a similar thing as everybody else. I really just went not so much what I thought were the best ones, but what my favorite ones were. But I did put one condition on mine, and that was I really wanted something from each decade. You know, 80s, 90s, 2000s, and 2010. And I did kind of put a slight condition on the 2010s.

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I didn't really want to put anything that was recent just because I wanted these to be standout albums that had kind of made it the test of time so for my number five it's from 2013 I mentioned this album last podcast and my vault Gorguts Colored Sands I just think it's an amazing technical death album avant-garde metal I think they just get better every album personally

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It's a monster. Yeah. And I think Dan, our friend Dan Clancher, or as everyone likes to say his name differently, he made a comment about that. Cladgin Car Talk? He thought this was the album that Luke LeMay had been searching for or building towards, and I agree. It's just such a killer album. By the way, it's pronounced Dan Clown Car, but fine. Whatever. Will?

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Let me think here. So initially when I put this list together, I'm like, oh, this is easy. You know, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then I started thinking about like, let me go back to my year end list and let me look at some albums that, because almost everything in mine was pretty old, like not within the last 10 years. It seemed like. And there's so many good death metal albums I loved in the last 10 years. But I still just kept harking back to the old school.

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I did find one that I'm like god damn I love this album and it's got to be on my list and that's Temple of Void Lords of Death such a great album and and I even I even hesitated because it's kind of like in the death doom vein and we didn't specify but there's enough straight up death metal on here without the doom aspects of it that this I think it fits perfectly great album love those guys Lords of Death nice

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So mine is a band that I wanted to make sure I included and I kind of focused mainly on bands and then went to find my favorite album of theirs and kind of thing and this is truly one of my favorite modern death metal bands. I went running in your direction, Markisan and then I turned slightly left and I went with the Anthropocene Extinction which I really do like. I love Death Atlas. I think it's fantastic but this I just

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For me, this is a step above it. And I think it's... I do miss the technicality, the tech stuff on the new one a little bit. Not that I don't fucking love it, and I can't wait for the next one. I absolutely agree with you. Death Alice was fucking great, but Anthropocene Distinction was just... There's no words. If we did a list of our favorite albums, period, from the last 10 years, this is on my list.

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Yeah, me too. It's just so fucking good. It really is. You know, after Death Atlas came out, around that time, I was at a bar slash pool hall, and I was wearing a pig destroyer shirt, not this one, but my other one, drinking beer, playing pool, hanging out with people, being woohoo, drunk and stupid, and the waitress comes up to give me my beer, and she looks at my shirt, and she's like,

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Do you like cattle decapitation? And I was like, fuck yeah, I like cattle decapitation. She's like, I thought so. Then walked away. I don't know if she liked them too. I mean, it's awesome. I love, Jay, that you picked that one. Just the fact that you're picking something that's modern, you know, because there's so many great death metal albums from, you know, way back. So it's cool to consider. And we know,

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As we know, there's a lot of modern death that's coming out right now. So it's cool to be able to consider something that's happened in the last few years, as opposed to something that happened in the 90s or 2000s. I appreciate that. Death Atlas edges it out a little bit for me. I don't know what it is about that, but I love Anthropocene Extinction. Their last, what, three to five elves have been fucking, you know. In a weird sort of way, I think it's

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that any band that we name for this top five that doesn't end in the word death. You know, you think about the band death. This is like their catalog of work could easily just be all of our top fives, in my opinion. Yeah, absolutely. I told the guys when we started, I was like, I'm not probably going to put any death on here because that's like call on water wet. But you did, didn't you? Guess we'll see. I mean, I have to.

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Water is wet.

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No, man, I agree with you, George, is the point.

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I feel the same way, but it's sort of like, how do you avoid it?

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You can, and maybe you did.

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I thought about it, too.

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But let's find out what you did for number five, since we're talking.

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My number five is Death and Roll.

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It's not actually true death, but it's something that I go to so much that I had to go with it, and that would be Entombed Wolverine Blues.

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Yeah.

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Nice.

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No, fine choice, dude. I thought about Clandestine, believe it or not. Yeah, I mean. But that's a great choice, Jay. That's totally death. That's not a great choice. That's a shit choice. Oh, whoops. Sorry. Talk to me again when we get later in the lists, fucker. Not my favorite Intune, but also, I mean, I love Intune. I hate that album. That's the best Intune album. No. No. Clandestine, Sinners Bleed. Come on, dude. Fucking full of hell, out of hand. Come on. Fucking blood.

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I mean, every song on there is fucking awesome. You know, it's whatever you want, George. This is the only one that I expect to take much crap for. The rest of it. Deal. Well, Jeff, let's end this misery and let's hear your number four. Okay, before I do that, I guess I was out of the room. What was John's number five? Gorka's Colored Sands. Oh, okay. Yeah, I did hear that. Okay. My number five. He's just making a shopping list.

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I seriously thought about cutting death out like you talked about because obviously death is death. Every fucking album could be on the list. Yeah. But I love leprosy so much that it had to be on my list. So death leprosy is my number four. So here's the thing, though, that raises the interesting question is for those of us who did choose a death record, which one will it be? Nice. Yeah.

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Mine's up there too. Nice. Which one will it be? Which one are we all going to choose? So for those of us who choose one. Yeah. My word is stress. That's almost just as hard. That brings us to Mark us on. Mark us on. All right. Yeah. My number four. George mentioned this bandit and I've picked the superior album. It's in tune. Left hand path.

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Your Ake Records from 1990. Either way, LG Petrov, Get Well Soon. That's true. That savage guitar tone, man. It was a revelation back in 1990 and obviously influenced quite a few death metal acts. I think it also influenced hardcore a lot, this album. So I love this one. I just got, he just re-released it not too long ago, like for a record store day, I believe. And I got that version.

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I have multiple versions of this one on vinyl. I love Left Hand Path. So number four. First three albums are awesome. I will consider that. Yeah. All right. If I want to have a top five death, it's going to include this band. And that band is obituary. And if I'm going to choose an album, it's going to be cause of death. Yeah. Well, I think that would be. I don't like I don't have much to say.

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other than that. Same year as Left Hand Path, actually. That is the entire reason I went to Death Bowl last year. Yeah. Of all the albums mentioned so far and possibly all the albums to be mentioned, that one has the best fucking cover. Absolutely. That's a great fucking cover, man. I even have the H.P. Lovecraft book that has that shit on it. We talked about this when we interviewed Temple of Void. I used to have, I had, I had, I had the album,

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first with that cover on it and then I had the book second and then I cannot find that book anywhere but Mike Erdly. He wrotey. Yeah. He cannot pronounce his last name especially this late at night but he actually had he pulled out a physical copy. He's like oh yeah I have it right here. I was like sweet. I have it. Yeah I've got it in my other room right now.

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Oh, sweet. That brings us to John. John. So this is my 80s album. Unfortunately, it was released in 1990, but it was recorded in 88 and was supposed to come out in 89. But apparently the label folded and had to push it back, at least for US release. Supposedly it was released in Europe in 89. But nonetheless, this is one that George actually predicted I would put on.

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My number four is Atheist Piece of Time. Maybe the first Technical Death album ever, if they were working on this stuff in 88. I like this one the most because it's also somewhat thrashy. They get more of the Technical Death and the jazz stuff going forward after that, but I've always been a fan of these guys, and I just absolutely love this album. So that's my number four.

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I know like literally nobody ever talks about them and I find it so hard to believe

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because that's why I knew it was going to be on your list any list I've ever seen

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decibel terrorizer anyone always has one of their albums in the top 20 yeah and I'm really surprised

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that you guys ever talked about it but that's cool you know there's so many bands for us all like

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fuck you guys

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well

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my number four

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I was debating whether to put this on because I don't know if people would think this is traditional death metal. Go here at Mars is serious. I absolutely fucking love this album. Yeah, Markisan is like, I don't know if he's just drunk and can't see or if he's like, no, he's having a stroke. He's having a mad eye moody. Only one eye is moving.

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I debated putting this on there, but I love this album so much, and there is some death vocals in it, but... I'm shocked. I'm shocked, too, because that eats up one of your choices, and you are the death metal guy. Yeah, can we stop here, and then you reconsider, and we just... I don't know. My reconsider would be Matt's. Okay. I don't know if I call it death metal, but that album,

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Oh yeah, absolutely. God damn. I mean, what would you call it then? Here's the, no, I don't know. I mean, I could argue cattle decapitation out of death metal if I tried hard enough. So I don't know. I mean, it's, it's growling. Yeah. Yeah. It's not like it's a bad album or anything. I'm just sort of surprised that given, given

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I think it's a great choice and any of them that has the heaviest matter

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in the universe that qualifies as death metal

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along with Backbone and From the Skies

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I know

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you listen to those songs they're like they're as heavy as fuck and they're death metal vocals

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so like

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it's great

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it was a moment in time that record dude

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it just knocked everybody's head off didn't it

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alright that brings it to me

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I'm going to say mine fast and get to hell out of dodge. Hollywood vampires? Okay, go. Rockstar is not death metal. I spent my time defending this choice in a text thread, and so I shan't do it here, but Possess Seven Churches has been there for me. I still say it's the first reference to death metal that exists, with the minor exception of Tom Warrior, who owns every heavy metal trademark in the world because he created everything, going back to the death metal symbol.

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But I possess Seven Churches. I would say, by the way, Onslaught from the UK and their Power From Hell, Death Metal Reference, Death Metal Vocals came out before Scream Bloody Gore and Seven Churches. What was the Death Metal Reference? I don't agree with either of those, but you know what? A lot of people put Possessed on their Death Metal list. Jay, I really fought with Seven Churches because I love

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I love that album. It's got the song death metal on it, but I really see it as a thrash metal album. Yeah, fair enough. I mean, I mean black metal by Venom has black metal, but does anybody really consider that black metal? Not really, no. No, but that's my argument. And that was what I shared with the guys was that it had to be there. And I'm not like trying to pull some trump card there, but I just mean if you were there at the time and I got that record literally like a month after it came out, when you met

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Mentioned Death Metal for the first six months of its existence. You were talking about Possessed and nothing else. And you knew that. If you knew anybody who talked about Death Metal. And people took it, as they often do, and turned it into this whole other thing, which is fine, but I still consider it. And that's valid. That's valid, Jay. That's completely valid, and I've seen that point. I believe Seven Churches paved the way for Death Metal by incorporating new elements into the sound that other bands took notice of, but it was Death that created.

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the recognizable death metal sound they were hearing for like 30 years fair enough all new genres of music sprung up from what came before fair you know but i also tend to be that guy you know what i mean like i tend to be like i consider deep purple a heavy metal band so right i just don't think death metal exists without death fair enough i think they took tidbits from possessed and from other bands before them but the influences that they from those influences they created

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created an entirely new sound that sparked the genre. Fair enough. And a genre that endures now. But it's fair to say that death wouldn't have existed without Possessed, because that was one of his main influences. It's hard to say, but I will just say this. I'm sticking to my guns. Right. And that's why I say it's valid. It's valid, yeah. It is what it is. There's a lot of genres that took influence of something else and then created something new. So where do you draw a line? I mean, there's people that, you know, consider Slayer as early Black

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is a black metal album creator is early black metal that's right so it was at the time yeah at the time but i also totally get the other arguments so yeah so so jay um so onslaught power from hell had song number six was called death metal and was also record too and was also recorded in 1984 along with possessed i wonder i have to look at the well possessed didn't come out till november so right slot yeah onslaught

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It was released in February 85, but the demos and everything was recorded in 84. It was the same year as Possessed. But for what it's worth, too, I didn't even know I don't remember that. I did get that record that same year, too. Georgie Boy. Before I get into mine, I just wanted to, is everybody familiar with the power metal band Running Wild? Whether you're fans or not, you've heard of them? Absolutely. You know, their first album,

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Gates to Purgatory was considered a black metal album because they sang about satanic things, even though it was not remotely what we would consider black metal. Dude, I'm telling you, I remember that. Because they even mentioned it in one of the lyrics, like black metal, blah, blah, blah. But it's running wild. It's not fucking black metal. But I love that album. In our chat thread, I remember seeing my first advertisement for Melissa and it said,

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Yeah, same thing. Because it was about Satan. In any case. All right, so my number four, Nile Annihilation of the Wicked. Something tells me we'll be hearing that one a few more times. A great one. Yeah, I didn't think there'd be any complaints about that one. No complaints. Yeah. I mean, one of the definitive death metal bands of the 90s, for sure. Yeah, I actually was like, I had to go through and listen to a few of the albums because I was like, I don't know, Black Seeds of Vengeance is pretty fucking cool.

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too. And they're darkened shrines. Yeah, that too. But I was like, no. Annihilation of the Wicked just fucking annihilates. It's fucking amazing. It does, yeah. And I love how it ends. Just fades out into that with all that weird Indian, not Indian, but Middle Eastern. Egyptian, perhaps. Egyptian. Middle Eastern. Actually, I'm not so sure about that. I think it's actually for South Carolina. Yeah.

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Indonesia, I think is what you're looking for.

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Jeff, number three.

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All the background to Jeff.

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Number three.

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Okay, I think I mentioned it already, but the entire reason I went to Decibel Filly last year is obituary's cause of death played its entirety.

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Same reason I bought the tickets for the live stream.

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They're playing it tonight.

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Yeah, that is my number three, hands down. I fucking love that album. It is incredible. James Murphy. It was awesome live, too. Yes. It was. Yeah, it was killer. Yeah. Left Hand Path always edges it out for me, but I fucking love that album. Left Hand Path is good. Caused Death is it for me. It's cool. This is not a bad choice at all. Markisan, your number three.

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I'm going to piggyback off George and go with an album that's a little bit better than the one he said. Oh, fuck yeah. Nile, Black Seas of Vengeance. Hey, I considered it. On Relapse Records from 2000. No, George, you picked a great album. I think that is a fantastic, Nile's The Wicked is fantastic. For me, it's the emotional choice, I guess. I'm a huge Nile fan, and this album was my introduction to the band.

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So I have the most affection for it. It makes sense. And I come back to it the most. Yeah. When I heard that mix of ferocity and technical skill mixed with the Egyptian, Jay, Egyptian, instrumentation, it blew my mind. It blew my fucking mind. And, uh, and that title track, Black Seeds of Vengeance, it's just so fun to growl in the car. Yeah. So I, I, I, I love,

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I love the albums that came the two albums that came after this one but this one is the first and I just I just adore it so it has to be on my list Niall Blackseeds of Vengeance good choice Matthew sausage pans okay sausageville my number three was probably my hardest choice the one I spent the most time on

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My first introduction to this band was through ads and magazines. I saw albums like Butchered at Birth and Tomb of the Mutilated. It wasn't until I watched East Ventura until I really realized what Cannibal Corpse sounded like. I was like, oh my god, I don't understand anything he's saying. That's fucking amazing. I want to be part of this. Exactly. Where do I sign up for that?

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I like the Chris Barnes era. I respect it. But I don't feel like until Corpse Grinder came along that this band developed its true intensity. Indeed. And it wasn't until this album that I believe, let me rephrase that, I believe that this album gave birth to the cannibal corpse we know today. And my favorite lyric from this album is the time to kill his motherfucking now.

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Cannibal Corpse Kill. You have the most intense with Courts Grinder. I feel like the production elevated from the previous albums. And I really do believe that the Cannibal Corpse of Kill is the Cannibal Corpse we listen to today. Matt, what time is it? 11.23. The time to kill is now. Yes. Sorry. I can't. I'm sorry.

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of this, but I can't fucking stand the Chris Barnes era. Uh, you know, I'm not a guy. I'm not into it either. You know, I, I never was, and I'm still not really a Barnes fan. However, Tomb of the Mutilated has grown on me. I also just kind of don't like Chris Barnes. Well, yeah, he's an asshole. Exactly. But I like it because it was my introduction to that type of metal. Yeah. And so I love it. But yeah, when you, when you look back in retrospect,

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It's like, but still anything that's Corpse Grindr is going to be better. Chris Barnes is good because he sings like this, but we all do that. But when you listen to, I'm sorry, Chris Barnes sings, but when you listen to Corpse Grindr sing and then you hear him talk, it's like, oh yeah, your throat must be on fire. Look at that neck. His neck is wider than his head. Well, again, I'm a younger guy than most of you.

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And yeah,

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not most of us,

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all of us,

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all of us by like 15 years.

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Sorry.

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Yeah.

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So Chris,

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enjoy your youth and your demon seed.

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That's still,

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it'll be gone before you know it.

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Especially.

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Yeah.

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The new metalhead.

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And yeah.

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So Chris Barnes,

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I listened to it and you know,

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six feet under was one of the first bands I listened to.

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And I thought it was fucking awful.

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It is.

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And then I went to Cannibal Corpse with Corpse Grinder and I'm like, dude, this is one of the best things I've ever fucking heard. It was the band they were supposed to be. Yes, absolutely. The way you were talking, I thought you were going to go vile because that was the first Corpse Grinder, which I would not have argued with. Right. That was great. That is one of my favorites. But there's gallery of suicide, but no. Jack. So my number three is from the 2000s and I'm very late to this band.

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And long after they had broken up. But George had sort of guided me on some albums to listen to. But this is the first one I checked out on my own before I even talked to him about this band. And I'm kind of bummed I missed out on them at the time because I absolutely love everything from them so far that I've listened to. And that's Bolt Thrower, Those Once Loyal in 2005. Oh, yes. It's just such a massively.

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album on my list but it's just a massive relentless slab of death metal i mean it's like an armored division is just rolling over your head the whole time and it's their last album and i think it could be possibly their best i mean there's not many bands that could have a last album after having so many good ones and have an album that good at the end so it's such a killer album so yeah those ones did not make my list but it is definitely a honorable mention it is so

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I have two bolt thrower albums on my honorable mentions. Choosing five is really tough in this genre. Yeah, absolutely. Hey, Jay, by the way, before I go, the World Series game just ended and wait till the end. Okay, thanks. Oh shit, really? Oh yeah, just wait till the end. All right, awesome. Now I have to look. Yeah, I haven't watched that. Cool. Yeah, I

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I mean, when you have a score 27 to 22, I mean, that's pretty crazy. Interesting. Are you kidding? Yes, I'm kidding. No, but I'm not kidding. Wait till the end. Wait till the bomb of the ninth. Wait till the ninth inning. Sorry. Wait till the ninth. Don't watch until the ninth. Just wait. Just fast forward to the ninth. Yeah. Anyway, I will go quick because it's getting late. My number three bloodbath nightmares made.

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Flesh. Oh, nice. I absolutely... You like Peter, eh? You know, it's not about... It's not a choice between Peter or Michael. It's more of just the songs. Yeah, but he's really good on the album, too, on top of that. What's that? I said, but he's really good on the album, too, on top of that. Yeah, I mean, the... I do love on the Valk and Carnage live album where Michael Ackermann is back

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I don't know if they're written by Peter or what on the previous album but he's like so this song is eaten and I don't know what crazy motherfucker came up with these lyrics but I'm just gonna sing it but man that is that is song is eaten yeah I needed bloodbath on my list I wear a bloodbath mask every day I guess I'm

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I get some compliments. I was in a riding an elevator recently and a guy's like, hey man, I like your mask. And I'm like, oh, you're a fan of the Swedish death metal super group bloodbath. He's like, oh, well, I'll have to check them out. I like a Monomarath. And he walks off the elevator. I'm like, oh, cool. Yeah, I know. Well, I get that all the time where people compliment on my mask and I'm like, oh, you know this metal band and they have no idea what I'm talking about.

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At least you got that. At least you got a little bit of Monomarth. But yeah, people just like the design of the masks, but they don't really understand anything about. Got a behemoth mask and I get the same fucking shit. What is yours? What's yours, Marcus? Is it an incantation? I have a, yeah, I have a lot of incantation. I have like four incantation ones. And I have, I just ordered another one. I forget what it was. Yeah, I have the one, the first incantation one that came

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I got that one yeah two or three other ones I've got the black album

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it's just a picture of sausage fingers I don't know if you guys have that one but it's pretty good

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well I already said that I thought now was one of the more important death metal bands of

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the 90s since until now you know as well and the truth is is that I as much as I there's a lot that I like by them I I could easily go

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Black Seeds of Bensens that could easily go in their darkened shrines. And frankly, I could even make an argument for the new fucking one, which was, I thought it was brilliant. Yeah. Came rearing back and just brutal fashion. And it has one of the fastest fucking songs that were done, which is the general side of warfare, Oxford edition song, whatever it is. By the way, talk about sausage figures. You ever met Carl Sanders? I've never met him. Not to be confused with Colonel Sanders. No, no. You see his fingers. It's like the shortest, fattest fingers ever. I'm like, how does this guy play guitar?

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They're kind of like this.

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No, they're like.

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Yeah, no, you're right.

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Yeah.

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See, Matt, you should have tried harder.

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That was, luckily, that was actually one of my last.

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Maybe I'll pick it up again.

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That would also be my second or third to the last pre-lockdown show.

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But I have to side with George.

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I went with Annihilation of the Wicked.

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It's just such a visceral.

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It's great.

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It's a great album.

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It's brutal.

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Yeah.

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And it brings us to George.

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To lovingly mock Markisan, I am going to say I am piggybacking off of John, but going with one that's better. And that is Bolt Throwers for Victory. That's a good album. It is a very good album. Yeah. Which album has the song, my favorite bolt thrower song, Kill Chain? It was one slow. Yeah. Yeah. That one wins.

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I don't know. It's tough, man, because I gravitate towards Realm of Chaos, but they're all fucking great. They are. I mean, even in Battle There Is No Law, which is like old and raw and crazy is still a great album. Everything Bolter was awesome. Awesome. I like how George, it looked like you were going to like slay me and then really didn't really. No, I just wanted to use your phrase, but on John. Not that, I mean, not that there's anything

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I don't think anything wrong. As I said, I don't think Bolt Thrower is awesome. When Bolt Thrower and Niall, the albums that you guys have picked, the Bolt Thrower album John picked that you picked, I mean, they're all just fantastic. I have no issue with them. I could easily do like a top 50 Deathman album. Jesus Christ. Yeah. Honestly, I thought maybe John would go Fourth Crusade, but because you seem to be pretty like that one. I like that one a lot too. Yeah. All right. Back to Jeff for number dos.

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Two. Okay. Number two is by far one of my favorite death metal albums because it is just so goddamn handy. That's good because we're doing a top five. Yeah. So it's probably like one of like your number second favorite maybe. Two of my favorites. Two of my favorites. So it is Deicide and the Minds of Evil. The title track alone

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It's just so goddamn heavy. I expected something to get signed. I didn't know what to expect. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cool. Cool. All right. Round Robin. Surprising. I don't have more comments from Will. Yeah. No, I thought Will was a big fan of that. Sleepy. I am sleepy. I'm typing slow. Are you going to say anything else, Will?

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He's just tired. Is that it? I'm looking it up, looking through the track list, looking through the year it was released. And yeah, I really like that album. Good choice. He's good. Oh my God. Awesome. Hey, your pick doesn't suck. Dude, I love D. Asad. I think I just like the... There's another album.

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I like a little bit better. Oh, so maybe it's coming up. To hell with God. 2011. Yes, absolutely. To hell with the devil. Oh, wait, that's stripper. All right. Yeah, my number two. Well, I mean, over the last couple months, everybody knows how much I love incantation. Their cavernous eerie death always hits me in the fields.

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for the band is so great. I actually toyed with putting two of their albums on my list, but I decided to go with one, the one that I've played the most through the years, and that is Incantation Diabolical Conquest on Relapsed Records from 1998. The music is brutal. It's foreboding, but the vocals on this one are really fantastic.

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It's the only in-can release to feature Daniel Corchado on vocals. And I think he gives one of the best performances ever on a death metal album. They went through a lot of shit with that guy to record this record, and somehow it just turned out to be a really classic album. But I love all the Incantation albums, but this is the one that I spin the most. Although the new one is getting quite a bit of play-wise.

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It's great. Yes. Diabolical Conquest. I'd listen to it again today when I went out and I got that Judas Priest record for Records Third Day and I threw it out in the car and fuck. It just gets me every time. So Mark us on Pop Quiz. Profane Nexus or Vile Sex of Divinity? Sex. Sex. Sex. Or Sex. I like Vile Sex of Divinity. Yeah. Vile Sex is better. I like that one. I really like the new album a lot. The Sex is better.

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than the nexus. It depends. Sex is better than the nexus? Sex is better than the nexus. That's true. Yeah, the vile sect of divinity is, yes, I like that one the best. I love the last album quite a bit, but. Let's move on to Matt. It's tough because when you have the new album. Yeah, George, I got more shit to say. Okay. We just got some non-sausage talk. Matt, you just wait

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Wait your turn. When you have the new albums, it's tough to see what's better because you've had all these years to listen to the old albums. You know what I mean? So something like Diabolical Conquest, I mean, I played thousands of times. So I love the new one. I don't know where it's going to stand. That's why when I was doing this death metal list and I put that Cattle Decapitation album on there, you know, I really had to listen to it and go through a lot of death metal to decide on that one because

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The old albums have gotten so many repeat plays over the years. But I don't want to exclude some of the newer stuff. It's like when you have two kids. Like, you know, I've had this one for, you know, two years longer than this other one. There's some really redeeming qualities about this other one. I don't know what you're talking about. I mean, I have no desire for kids, but yeah, okay, sure. Yeah, Marcus, I'm talking to the same thing as far as albums is.

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I really wanted to put on Onward Torco Gotha. Oh, yeah. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Because I fucking love the album. No. Really, George? That is absolutely one of the most horrible albums I've ever heard. Wow. I like a lot of incantation, but that one sounds like crap. Wow, you're wrong. But I went through and I was really struggling to make my list and Sintenex beat it out. But yeah. As it should.

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is just amazing.

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Yeah, I love that.

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It's amazing.

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And everything they do is amazing.

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George probably has money production.

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Dude, that production is one of the worst I've ever heard.

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Anytime George talks about production, we just have to ignore it.

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The pod father is, get off my lawn!

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God forbid Throssenblad put out money production.

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You know, check on him.

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Oh, Jesus.

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Say that again?

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So God forbid Throssenblad put out money production.

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They'd check on you. Oh, no, they wouldn't. That would be such a devil's kind of, like, organ for him. Except that it wouldn't happen. That's like saying water is dry. Will muddy production bring your son back? The pod fathers. And it's, you know, you listen to Incantation and the new album has amazing production on it. It does. Some of the other albums does not have as good a production.

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have to take in the nostalgia factor because back in the day, maybe they just didn't record it. It doesn't matter. It still was awesome to you because you had never heard something like that. So a lot of these albums, most of the albums on my list, they come from the heart more so than, you know, is this something that really defined the genre or moved it forward? My number one happens to be both. To each their own. Yeah, it's whatever you want.

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It's whatever you want. All right, now I'm done. You may go to bed. Sausage time. The one thing I forgot to mention about my last pick, and actually just going into this list, is that I'm a guy who I tend to gravitate towards the first album I hear by a band. I hear something, and then that becomes my favorite album. And so I tried not to do that with this list, but I also tried not to look at like, hey, what does the rest of the world think about?

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death metal yeah and so to be perfectly transparent kill was the first

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cannibal corpse album i heard and for this next band this was the first album i heard um

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i like early carcass i like later carcass but for this list the carcass i would put on it is

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necroticism the scanting the insalubrious nice choice i feel like they're they kind of they kind of

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around the corner getting into more death versus grind and uh and granted i mean surgical steel will be like a monument in my mind but it is with necronicism where they really kind of like i say rounded the corner and begin to get more into death than grind that is their peak yeah i thought you might say heart work actually well i thought that but but to be perfectly honest i i like i wrestled back

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and forth of the old week and i had to go back to necroticism i mean carcass they haven't done anything bad all good yeah

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jack all right up to this point no one has mentioned it now might mention which makes sense because this is such a huge genre to choose from um and this is the only band i think where they don't have a bad album in their whole catalog

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Literally, you could pick any one of their albums and you'd be completely satisfying the need for the top five. For me, this is my favorite from them. It's Death, Human. Absolutely love it. Yes. Absolutely love this album. I'm surprised it's not the number one. Now I'm curious. Well, now I think I know what your number one is. I know what it is. I might suspect it's closely related. Yeah. But we shall see.

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Will. What time is it? Time for your number two, bitch. Time to kill us now! Nice. Did you guys not see that coming? Time to kill. Oh, man. I think Matt said all the good things about it. So, next. Jay, go. Matt, I got your back. You didn't have enough room to put two on there, so I chose Carcass Heartwork. Nice. Definitely.

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I mean, I agree with Surgical Steel, stands out as something very special, but Heartwork came along at a time. That's its own unique thing. Everyone was like, what the fuck is this? But it's most definitely a death metal album. I think it's responsible for so much that came after it. There's no love lost there. And it's still utterly listenable. I still put it on and I'm not bored with it. An interesting epiphany I had was listening to, I think, did we get the Venom Prison promo?

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Yeah. Venom Prison sounds a lot like Carcass. And when I put when I thought about Venom Prison in that way, I'm like, wow, Venom Prison is pretty good. Well, remember those guys all, you know, flew in similar circles and stuff. Except the Venom Prison isn't a dude. What's that? I said except Venom Prison isn't a dude. I thought it was the guy from Any Palm Death. Venom Prison? No. Oh, I was thinking of

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Yeah, excuse me, excuse me, sorry. You're thinking of this concept. Yeah, sorry, my bad, my bad. That's my bad, George. Yeah. Well, I brought up heart work when Matt was talking about Carcass because that's on my honorable mentions. That's the one for me. So cool that you also mentioned it, Jay. It was either that or Surgical Steel, but I had to go with the original. And hopefully we will be able to say something very, very, very, very nice about the new one. Yeah. Well, the EP is already awesome.

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It is awesome. Those are the throwaway songs. Those are the throwaway songs. What the fuck? What the fuck? I mean, that's going to be on my top EPs. Come on. Fuck yeah. George, your boy. My number two. Nobody has mentioned this band as part of this list. However, this album did come up earlier mentioned by Will. And that is Napalm Death. Time waits for no slave. Oh, man. I've been listening to that the last two days.

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Street. Yes. That is like awesome. Except for my number one. This is my go to album. I listen to this all the time. Time waits for no slave. Fucking brilliant. All right. Let's bring it home. Jeff. Number one. My number one has been mentioned a couple of times already. This is the first probably the first death metal album I heard and it is Cannibal Corpse. Kill.

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This is getting a lot of love for Kill. 100% my favorite death metal album. Death Walking Terror is 100% my favorite death metal song. And they play it live. I lose my fucking mind. Okay. And clearly so does Steph. Yes. I love that she stayed on. That's so nice. She's just troopering it up, man.

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I somewhat miss you guys.

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Oh,

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that's good.

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I don't know that you're going to want to say hi.

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So I'll tell him you're working.

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I'm like,

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well,

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I have to.

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Cause we didn't see you guys.

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Yeah.

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I was working.

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I wasn't lying.

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She was working.

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Oh,

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we believe you.

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No,

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no,

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no,

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of course.

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And it was so nice of you to come and say hi.

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Yeah.

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And stick around.

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Mark is on me.

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Yes.

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I can't make a death metal list without this band.

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Um,

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John already mentioned it and it's the band in my opinion that started death metal I already gave my reasons for why onslaught really absolutely my favorite don't discount it look it up I have it I bought it in 80 whatever I have it yeah yeah okay sorry uh this is my favorite album from this band and uh it was John's number two it's death human on relativity records from 1991 why

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You know, because the fathers of death metal, in my opinion, also kicked off the beginning of a more progressive and complex style of death metal with a human. And so not only, in my opinion, did they start death metal, but then they also fucking reinvigorated it with something else. That's crazy. You know, it helped to evolve metal another step. And I have to

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I mentioned this too. Just a couple days ago, we had the 29th anniversary of Human. I think it was literally like two or three days ago. So happy birthday. Holy shit. Human. Yeah. You know, I read an interview with Jeff from Possessed and they were talking about the whole like Possessed death, which was first thing. And he, well, I'm not going to

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I'm not trying to talk about what he said about that, but he said that, you know, Chuck was a friend of mine and Chuck considered himself not to be death metal, but to be progressive metal. Fair enough. And that was sort of his, like, I mean, ultimately he was like, we were first fuckers, but you know, but he's like, but you know, Chuck was like, Chuck said they were progressive metal. So that's, that's fine. I mean, you know what? I consider them to be both. Yeah. Well, I'm not trying to, I'm not, I'm, I'm totally in the death camp as far as first death metal.

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So I'm not discounting what you're saying at all. I just thought it was amusing. Well, that's a cool thing. Like, I, you know, obviously there's a debate, but to me, they started death metal and then they did this. And it's like it opened the floodgates to just so much more of what we have today. So I love this album. I spin it a lot. And I have it on multiple versions of vinyl. So. Matt. Matt.

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Number one.

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Like, I wrestled with this shit all week.

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I mean, I wrestled a bear once? Really?

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I did. I've seen them live in the city of St. Paul.

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I've seen a wrestle bear once live, too.

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Yeah, they actually were pretty good.

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They were fun.

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I have not.

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Literally, fuck.

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I went back and forth.

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And honestly, I've never,

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when I think of this band,

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this is the album that I see mentioned everywhere.

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And I've never really connected.

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Well, I do connect with every album they make,

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but I've never been like,

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well, this is my,

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this is like my BL end all for this band.

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But really every album they've done is my BL end all,

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but like anthrax.

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No, but not bad.

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I got it, George,

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but you have early death.

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You have later death.

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And to me, this album connects the two. And that is Human by Death. I mean, I love early, brutal, gory Death. But I also love ladder, proggy Death. Fucking shit. Like, to me, Human is the middle of all that. And to be honest, it's a little bit of a default for me choosing it. But that's what I gotta go with. Yes.

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I 100% agree. As one would. Johnny Boy. Interesting fact, Matt, that was their fourth album, and they have seven albums, so technically it is their actual middle album. Nice. To contradict all of you, Gene Simmons invented death metal. And Marcus, son, I don't disagree with your comments about death metal.

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and progressive metal. But there are some people who will argue that Nocturnus deserves the credit with their album. The key is being potentially the first progressive metal album. I don't know how you can tell because there were about four or five bands doing all of it at the same time. I think that's just did it the best at the beginning. So, um, yeah. So my number one, half of this band was on the album human, uh, and they went on to put out their first album, which actually should have came out a couple of years earlier.

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But they had problems with the production of the album because of a little thing called a hurricane that hit Florida. Nonetheless, it finally came out. And I think it's taken it even further than what Death had done because they added in the whole jazz element and fusion. And then they disappeared for 15 years. And that is Cynic Focus. That's my number one. It's my number one runner up and I knew it would be your number one, John. Awesome. Awesome. Awesome.

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Yes, very good.

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It's just always, I hate, I just feel so bad when I have, oh wait, it's Will.

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I'll feel bad in a minute.

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That.

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Will flipped him off.

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Raise your hand if you can guess my number one.

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Leprosy.

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Death.

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Leprosy.

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Yeah.

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Nice.

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The greatest of all the greatest.

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Go.

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It's good. It's good. It's good.

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Your tongue goes down.

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We play the What's Your Favorite Death album frequently.

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It comes up like every three episodes.

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I think this is the one I say the most.

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And I do think it's their best record personally.

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And I understand.

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It would have been mine too.

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I could go Scream Bloody Gore and all that stuff.

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It's not what I'm going to go.

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No, it's not.

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And I get to Leprosy and all that stuff.

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Symbolic for me at the end of the day.

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It really is the best death album. It's just... That was my other battle with human. It's hard. Yeah, it's hard. And I think I like it because it's so brutally honest in its lyrics, for one thing. There's so much catchy stuff on it. But also, I like that it's a little bit less progressive than human. Even though in some ways it's more progressive, but it's a little less smooth. It's a little sharper around the edges. Maybe it's the right way to say it.

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Anyway, that's the one I would put on most often. At the end of the day, I think it's probably his finest achievement. For my money. Yeah, well, there's that, you know. And so much else. So, yeah. Yeah, that would have been my death choice. I was trying to pick what fucking death album to choose. No, we've all been biting our nails all week long. Yeah. All we can do is get packs of ice and put them in our crotch. I guess, George, what you're saying is you did

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You managed to avoid death. I did. What do you got? He's immortal. Whatever your number one is, it's wrong. I don't know that you're going to say that in a minute, but doing a top five death metal albums is kind of like five nails through the neck. And the time for my number one is now. And that is Kill. Nice. Cannibal Corpse. Clap everyone. Absolutely.

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I mean, I listened to this album all the fucking time. And, you know, I have to say that if you, like Jeff, listen way back in time to this podcast, we did a top five cannibal corpse albums and it wasn't even on my list. And Will was like, what the fuck are you retarded? Wait, was I on the podcast at that time? Yes, you were. I'm sure Kill was my number one. It was. And, you know, I,

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I got into them with Vile and I was a fan for a while and then prior to Kill things just weren't as good as I thought they might be and so I just I guess I just didn't listen to it when it came out I was like oh it's called Kill wow that's original and so after Will enlightened me I went back and listened to this and I was like wait wait wait did you say like I turned you on to something yes even though I was a fan

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I hadn't listened to this album. Oh, wait till I tell you about the new Sia album. Oh my God. She's so great. I can't wait to see her in concert. Hey, I think she's all right. But yeah, no, this is definitely my go-to death metal album of all time. I go to this all the time. There's a new Miley Cyrus coming out. Yeah, well, until then.

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be shamed for choosing kill. And I'm so surprised that the four of us that chose cannibal corpse, we all chose kill. Are you not listening to this podcast, Matt? Well, I did. But yes. I must have missed that episode because I was making some sausage. Who invited Pee Wee Herman, by the way? Matt is the sausage king of Minnesota. I thought he was doing Marlon Brando.

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Those things.

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All right.

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Let's wrap this up.

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Let's bring this home.

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Oh,

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yeah.

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Here we are at the end.

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You know,

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I refuse.

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Honorable mentions.

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Oh,

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yeah,

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we should do that.

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Wait,

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I just want to first of all say that when I saw how short the script was,

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I'm like,

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oh my God,

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we're going to be out here in two hours.

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And it's almost five hours.

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Oh,

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I know.

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Minimum.

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I blame Jeff and Steph.

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Oh,

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come on now.

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It's easier to blame the guests because they won't be here next time to defend themselves.

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They can't defend the faith. Oh, yeah. Good job, Matt. Thank you. I mean, you know, I'm perhaps going out of order here, but I wanted to do a couple of honorable mentions because I didn't really go with any of the albums that I thought I was going to. Clearly, I didn't do anything by death. I would have gone symbolic like Jay. Obituary Cause of Death. I'm like, how is that not on there? Morbid Angel.

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like any of the first four albums, but Blessed Be the Sick is my probably favorite. Deicide, I was... Blessed Are the Sick. Blessed Are the Sick. And I was going to go with... I was sure the first Deicide album was going to be on there, but not so much. So... There's only five. I know. There's only five. Exactly. So... Anybody else have honorables? Yeah, I mean, I...

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Like I mentioned, John picks cynic as his number one. It's my very close runner up. I really wanted to put it on my list because I love that cynic focus album so much. So it makes my first honorable mention. Then I have Dark Throne, Soul Side Journey, the only death battle album that Dark Throne did. I love that album. Carcass, Heartwork. Also, I talked a little bit about that. So I mentioned honorable mentions list. Two Bolt Thriller albums, Those Once Loyal.

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which came up and realm of chaos which i mentioned obituary cause of death i had a couple

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incantation albums i considered onward to golgotha and upon the throne of apocalypse which is the

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remastered audio somebody told me onward the golgotha has really shitty muddy production yeah i wonder who that is

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super mud super mud it's like two inches thick right on your helmet

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Well, Upon the Throne of Apocalypse from Incantation is the remastered version of their original mortal throne of Nazarene. It sounds amazing. And then Morbred Angel, Altars of Madness, which I believe was Decimal's number one death metal album. Yeah, I think it was. Yes. So that's what I got. I wanted to mention Necroticism as well. I forgot about that. I'll jump into mine just because there's just two.

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And it really is just two bands that I wanted to represent. And I couldn't, I just couldn't, actually, I would say three, to be honest with you, I considered putting an Opeth record on here, but that might've been a bit of a stretch. But the two that I've had the hardest time leaving off my list were Entombed and Morbid Angel. So, but it just didn't work out and I'm not even going to bother to pick because I didn't spend the time on it. I chose bands first, then I went to album. So, but those are the hard, those are the ones that should be on any list. And I would be Alters of Madness. I'm not sure about Entombed.

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If I can just interrupt between everybody's picks each time, I also wanted to mention Bloodbath Resurrection through Carnage. Excellent choice. When you said Opeth, that reminded me. Yeah. Anybody else? Yeah, I mean, I got obviously Obituary Calls of Death, one of my favorite, one of my, aside from Death Leprosy, one of my gateway death metal albums. I love the album front to back.

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The Morbid Angel, Bless Out of the Sick. And then, hold on, hold on. I think I have, yeah. And then the other one, slightly more obscure, but no less worthy is Lago, Sea of Duress. Oh, wow. Yeah, that was on my list. Yeah, if you like Morbid Angel, you absolutely need to check out Lago, Sea of Duress. Okay.

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They're due for a new album, man. Yeah, they absolutely are. But if you just do yourself a favor, Lago, which means Lake in Spanish, L-A-G-O, Sea of Duress, check it out. It is unbelievably fucking phenomenal death metal. Will do. Will do, Will. Roger, Roger. What's your vector, vector? Or vector, vector?

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Any more honorable mentions? I'll do a few real quick. Death, Individual Thought Patterns. Love that album. Entombed from Destine. Marbid Angel, the A album. Probably a controversial pick because people like other albums by them, but I love Spheres from Pestilence. And a very obscure album, Theory and Practice, Third Eye Function. Wait, what was that again?

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Theory in Practice. I thought you said Theory in. I was like, what? No. No, their early death albums are just okay. Theory in Practice is a Swedish technical death band that came out in the mid-late 90s. Gotcha. We should probably get Jeff back here because we're about to wrap up. He might have fun to sleep. He's under the desk. He's just using the bathroom or something.

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Yeah, he's in the bathroom. I told him to hurry. Don't take a dump, dude. Did he eat McDonald's today? No worries. No, but he ate that Chipotle. He ate that Chipotle for like five hours. It was probably pretty cold by then. Definitely getting salmonella poison. No worries. Hurry, hurry. You're fine. No, don't sweat it, dude.

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We summoned you back to thank you for coming. Oh, yeah. Thanks, dude. For being our guest. We consider you a pal and a pal of the show, but also just a friend. I hope that we will not have to wait two full years before we see you face-to-face again. Yeah. You'll need a babysitter by then. Yeah, I was going to say, you have no idea what they're about to go through. You're not going to see them for like 10 years, by the way. Maybe him, but maybe not me.

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And it'll be like the before and after Lincoln Civil War picture too, you know what I mean? Dude, you've aged. Truly, thanks for coming on and sharing your voice. Thanks for having me on. I really, really appreciate it. Yeah, we should have done it before now. It just, I don't know, for whatever reason, didn't occur to me that you hadn't been on an official episode. George, at decibel, you invited me to come on when you guys did the live episode in the hotel. I was just too goddamn hung up.

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So are we. Yeah. And James farts didn't make anybody want to go in that room. Yeah. Sorry about that. But we'll have you back. We'll have you back. Yeah, my apologies. But we'll have you back. I feel you on that. I'm traveling the same fucking road, man. I had a vegetarian Italian sausage for supper tonight. That was, you know, hey, but here's the other. What does that mean? You didn't swallow? Rob does.

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Back to two things. One, again, Stephanie, thank you for what you do for a living. And for that matter, thank you, Jeff. And congratulations to you both. Thank you so much. We'll be watching your Facebook for updates about babies and whatnot. When he's able to fly, you guys will meet him. Yes, I believe we will. You got to send him one of those Metalheads onesies that you have, George.

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Yeah, let me see what I can do. I'll get back on there. George, get on the phone with your onesie people. Exactly. As we were talking earlier, if you can make them in adult sizes, you know. Those breakaway snaps are really convenient when you get back. Even if they're assless. That's what George wears every night. He just has to shrink it down a little bit. Exactly. All right.

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Well, here we are at the end, just under five hours before editing. Jesus Christ. I thought it was going to be like three hours because it was so short. So did I. I mean, I did a short list. You can't pin this one on me. I did a short list. Oh, no, I blame John. Of course. So. All right. Well, thanks for coming, everybody. We will see you next time. I got one more thing to say. No. Fucking shit.

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That's awesome, John. All right. Love you, boys. All right. Bye. Later. Later. Adios. Have a good one. Bye.

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I'll run and drag me to fade away.

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Thank you.