WEBVTT 00:00:00.020 --> 00:00:05.160 Metalhead Podcast, Metalhead Podcast, go! 00:00:26.200 --> 00:00:27.860 You must listen. 00:00:31.200 --> 00:00:32.480 You must listen. 00:00:36.280 --> 00:00:39.900 Now, here is the podcast, Metal Heads Podcast. 00:00:41.100 --> 00:00:43.600 Hello and welcome to the Metal Heads Podcast. My name is George. 00:00:44.380 --> 00:00:46.000 This is Jay. This is Will. 00:00:46.560 --> 00:00:48.240 This is John. This is Matt. 00:00:48.820 --> 00:00:49.820 This is Markisan. 00:00:50.180 --> 00:00:53.160 And we are joined today by Ian Locke, 00:00:53.320 --> 00:01:22.200 who I have known for many, many, many years. You could almost say many decades now. Indeed. Indeed. So Ian and I. We're so sorry for you. Ian and I go way back to growing up in Dexter, Michigan. Yeah. And cow town of Dexter. Yes. You don't live there now, though. You're like north of. Yeah. I'm about an hour and 10 away. Yeah. 00:01:23.200 --> 00:01:24.360 North and East. 00:01:25.320 --> 00:01:28.300 Are you willing to dish at least one embarrassing story about George? 00:01:28.560 --> 00:01:29.000 Oh, absolutely. 00:01:29.800 --> 00:01:32.480 I told, I told him that you can light me up as much as you want. 00:01:32.480 --> 00:01:34.540 You know, that's the point of having him on. 00:01:35.100 --> 00:01:35.260 Yeah. 00:01:35.380 --> 00:01:35.560 Yeah. 00:01:35.860 --> 00:01:36.500 That's cool. 00:01:36.900 --> 00:01:39.560 I got a couple, you know, I I'm, 00:01:40.240 --> 00:01:44.740 I'm meeting up with some other people that you might know next month in West Virginia. 00:01:45.840 --> 00:01:46.720 Dave Vontom. 00:01:47.260 --> 00:01:47.340 Yeah. 00:01:47.700 --> 00:01:52.180 George Burrell, John Tyco, Craig Gallo, and Jim Kitchen. 00:01:53.480 --> 00:02:20.580 That was the group. Yeah. That's the guys. Yeah. John T. I was thinking, you know, maybe I will bring along a portable recorder and just record a drunken, like, back in the day kind of thing about, hey, man, you guys like metal. You wear fucking pussies like you are now. But, you know. Cowtown metal dicks. Yeah. Yeah. Great guys. 00:02:22.300 --> 00:02:51.420 in so long. It's crazy how time slips by. George, we're just talking before we went on the air, just telling George when we reconnected and just said, hey, I've been watching you guys off and on, following the podcast for sure, watching the travels you guys do, going to Valken and all that stuff and the pictures and just living vicariously through you guys. But definitely you guys are like a master class in metal. 00:02:52.060 --> 00:03:21.180 And I'm still, like I told George, I said, he got me off the ground years ago. But I'm still stuck in the late 70s, 80s and 90s metal stuff. It's like when you find your niche, it's like you kind of lock in and I'm always looking for something new, but you guys are on a whole nother level. Since you said 70s, 80s, which is great. Well, then let's hear what your favorite Judas Priest album is. And I would caution you to tread lightly here. You're about to become friends with at least one half of this podcast. 00:03:22.500 --> 00:03:51.360 And enemies with the other half. Unless he's like, Judas Priest sucks. I could. No, I'm not going to say that. I love Painkiller. I didn't say in the 70s, but I loved Painkiller just because it was like, really? This is Judas Priest? And it kind of introduced me to them again. And to be honest, I really never got into them. Like I got into the other bands that George turned me on to. I love Rob Halford. I saw them. 00:03:51.680 --> 00:04:21.560 Saw him with his various solo projects opening for different acts over the years. Love Rob, but I never really got into Judas Priest, believe it or not. Okay, well, you dodged a bullet there, though. At least you said painkiller. I worked with a lot of politicians, so. If it had been turbo. Yeah, I was just going to say, then you all of a sudden you noticed your laptop was off. Yeah. I hate them, but I respect them. 00:04:21.660 --> 00:04:50.640 I respect them. Honestly, if the defenders of the faith, John and I were both going to walk, but that's cool. But Will and I would have been okay with that. Yeah, exactly. So what are you doing with yourself these days? Myself. Allow myself to introduce myself. Well, I don't know how far back you want to go or what do you want to do. Currently, I mean, I'm in media, so I started, you know, broadcasting video and that sort of thing. 00:04:50.700 --> 00:04:53.120 So like George got me into music 00:04:53.960 --> 00:04:55.620 Like the heavy stuff back in the day 00:04:55.720 --> 00:04:56.960 As we're going to get into 00:04:57.600 --> 00:04:59.520 I'm looking at you right now you're not on camera 00:04:59.780 --> 00:05:01.420 Anywhere correct? I am 00:05:01.860 --> 00:05:03.800 You are? You don't see him? 00:05:05.180 --> 00:05:06.740 No no no I think that was supposed to be insulting 00:05:06.940 --> 00:05:08.100 He's saying he has a face for radio 00:05:08.480 --> 00:05:09.900 Yeah like the rest of us 00:05:10.320 --> 00:05:11.340 I definitely do 00:05:11.700 --> 00:05:12.200 Is that better? 00:05:13.420 --> 00:05:14.280 No no sorry 00:05:14.920 --> 00:05:16.220 Jay got my joke no one else did 00:05:19.860 --> 00:05:20.660 Hey Will 00:05:20.680 --> 00:05:21.280 and media. 00:05:21.420 --> 00:05:50.140 Yeah, I work in media and actually community media, First Amendment stuff, right? So I run a TV station here in Lake Orion. It's community media, public access, government access, work with my school districts, superintendents, my township supervisors, all the politicians in town try to inform and educate those who are interested in making their own television shows, podcasts, and a variety of other things. 00:05:50.240 --> 00:06:19.600 So that's my bag. Now you had mentioned, you asked me whether you could play the podcast. And I'm like, yeah, of course. But what are all those politicians and such going to think about something like this? So it's funny when I'm mingling with, and it's all relatively conservative up here. I shouldn't say relatively. It is about a hundred percent. So to bring up anything of this, 00:06:20.220 --> 00:06:49.540 scope or topic, they would blanch. They would actually look at me sideways. Yeah, that's what I would expect. It's kind of odd, but you find I always like to try to add the odd metal reference into conversation just to see if they know what I'm talking about and see if I can dig a little deeper and go, hey, well, maybe you are cool. Maybe like the midnight to 5 a.m. slot. 00:06:50.220 --> 00:07:19.000 Yeah. So we have on our channels that we run, we have radio software. It's called ENCO. So it runs 24-7. And I have all of my CD collection, record collection running in the background. And listening to you guys and seeing, I go, man, I should, we're on podcasts on the air. So I'm like, man, I got to get you guys on. And when you said seven hours, I go, man, I can't budget seven hours. Yeah. Well, we split it up into two. 00:07:19.220 --> 00:07:19.820 1 a.m. 00:07:20.980 --> 00:07:24.800 But can you do a segment then a segment? 00:07:25.580 --> 00:07:25.700 Yeah. 00:07:25.820 --> 00:07:25.900 Okay. 00:07:26.080 --> 00:07:27.000 Nobody's getting that joke. 00:07:27.960 --> 00:07:29.040 We have a seven hour podcast. 00:07:29.260 --> 00:07:31.340 Can you do a segment for seven hours? 00:07:31.600 --> 00:07:33.660 I think I can throw in about a minute and a half. 00:07:34.120 --> 00:07:34.300 Yeah. 00:07:34.900 --> 00:07:43.260 I've decided that once we crack six other heads, I've decided something and John will get this joke more than others, but perhaps some others. 00:07:43.360 --> 00:08:12.520 And that's that I've decided, John, that when we cracked the seven-hour mark, we became the tales from topographic oceans of podcasts. Yeah. Well, now we know six hours and 45 minutes is a hard stop on SoundCloud. Hey, Jay, that was just, that was just disc one. Yeah, no, you're right. Well, hey, shoot for the moon, baby. Yeah. But yeah, George getting me into music, man. I've never seen, you know, how music affects different people. 00:08:12.680 --> 00:08:42.000 And I'm sure for you guys, obviously you're investing all this time and doing this sort of thing and sharing information about the music you love, especially, you know, metal and all the great bands and the artists have rolled through time, right? And we've all sampled them at one point or another. But I always reach out to George everyone so I don't say, it's your fault. You're the one that got me into this. So thank you, you know, because there's times when you have music on and, um, 00:08:42.680 --> 00:09:12.640 You know, you're living in your head a lot when things are going bad and, you know, you throw in some tunes and it gets you out of that dark place. And I credit George on many levels of saying, hey, dude, you know, I'll throw in live after death or something like that and go, okay, this, this will get me through a hard time. So, you know, especially when you're younger, you know, having hard times trying to find your way. And so George, I'm patting you on the back. Thank you. Thank you so much for, for all that. So you set me down a path of, 00:09:12.700 --> 00:09:42.660 of music and fun and keep me going. Right on. Just for the record, George prefers like a good smack in the ass and a good thing. A little groping. A nice cup, yeah. Yeah, you can cup it. I mean, it's COVID friendly. I'm just thinking back to high school and like, I was surprised that you listened to anything metal because, you know, you were 00:09:42.680 --> 00:09:44.040 You were like a swimmer 00:09:44.960 --> 00:09:46.180 and you know 00:09:46.460 --> 00:09:47.920 I was captain of the swim team yes 00:09:48.700 --> 00:09:50.500 I was in marching band 00:09:50.620 --> 00:09:52.540 Yeah you did not look the part 00:09:53.220 --> 00:09:53.380 No 00:09:54.320 --> 00:09:55.460 No not at all 00:09:55.840 --> 00:09:58.060 I remember you telling me about 00:09:59.160 --> 00:10:00.540 Microaggression against swimmers 00:10:00.760 --> 00:10:01.280 by the way 00:10:02.160 --> 00:10:04.640 I totally do not fucking understand that comment 00:10:04.780 --> 00:10:05.440 Well it was just 00:10:06.600 --> 00:10:07.940 Swimmers don't like metal 00:10:08.280 --> 00:10:09.540 I was a swimmer 00:10:11.540 --> 00:10:12.660 Jay's like 00:10:12.680 --> 00:10:42.420 We just lost UnderwaterAudio.com. Come on. Well, we just got him back with you promoting him. It wasn't a diss. It was just a, you know, he didn't look the part. Of the metal guy. No, absolutely not. No, I didn't have the jacket. You know, the uniform. I didn't wear the uniform. No, you're wearing Speedos. I just want to point out, so we can all see each other. There's only one person. 00:10:42.740 --> 00:10:48.640 on this zoom out of the seven of us who actually looks like this stare a somewhat 00:10:49.020 --> 00:10:53.320 stereotypical metal guy and it's a person in my center square and that's Markisan yeah i was gonna say 00:10:53.540 --> 00:10:59.100 it's funny because now we all just look like a bunch of old dudes but john's got the sweetest hair 00:10:59.380 --> 00:11:05.580 clearly yeah very nice hair but i i was actually using that to segue into ian didn't i look like a 00:11:05.720 --> 00:11:12.640 fucking retard in high school no no okay so okay story time okay sit back everybody we got the log on 00:11:12.660 --> 00:11:39.720 I heard him to tell a little story about one Mr. George Washburn. So we've known each other, I mean, elementary school on middle school, the whole bit. George, very studious individual. One of the smartest guys I've ever come across in my days, just on point. Button down, Mr. Sweater, he's got it going on, the collar, the whole bit. I mean, he is, you know, he's the man, he's the book guy. We go into high school. 00:11:40.960 --> 00:12:10.880 The hair comes down to the shoulders. He's got the toxic anthrax things on his baseball cap with the bill turned. Yeah, it was the suicidal tendencies thing where you had the flipped up hat and I would take the hat and I'd flip it up and there's a new saying every day. Yeah, I use chalk so that I could change it. I would like write shit on there. And, you know, I did stuff like I mean, sometimes it was bands. Yeah. And but then I know I did a kill bun. 00:12:11.740 --> 00:12:12.180 Yes. 00:12:12.660 --> 00:12:14.320 Which earned me a lot of 00:12:16.100 --> 00:12:17.000 disdain from the 00:12:17.460 --> 00:12:18.100 poofy haired females. 00:12:18.890 --> 00:12:20.580 Wait, wait, did any of them ever say 00:12:20.610 --> 00:12:21.440 I'm a dildo head? 00:12:22.460 --> 00:12:23.560 I have to say 00:12:23.640 --> 00:12:25.060 I am a dildo head. 00:12:25.100 --> 00:12:25.720 That's a good story. 00:12:25.840 --> 00:12:26.600 I'm enjoying this because 00:12:27.040 --> 00:12:27.860 that is funny. 00:12:28.180 --> 00:12:30.140 I never would have thought I did that night. 00:12:30.280 --> 00:12:31.700 But you know, it's not like I didn't have 00:12:31.940 --> 00:12:32.860 Christmas spirit because 00:12:34.040 --> 00:12:35.120 around the holidays 00:12:35.290 --> 00:12:36.380 I changed to kill Santa. 00:12:37.380 --> 00:12:37.820 Yes. 00:12:39.399 --> 00:13:07.760 And the great thing about it, like George, like totally subversive, right? I mean, you have to understand where we came from. I mean, what was our graduating class? 133, 130, somewhere around there. Yeah, it was small and everybody knew each other. Right. So it's so small that you could name everybody in every class. And I mean, it was it's a small town. And George brings metal into our high school. I'm going to say you brought it in, but you actually wore it and you lived it. 00:13:07.820 --> 00:13:37.520 And you were the guy that goes, that's a heavy metal guy. And so he had the jackets and it turned into where we'd have class together. And I, you know, at least the slippery slope I got onto was like, like George, what happened over summer? Hey man, you know, completely 180. This new guy that reinvented himself. He's still George, just like he is today, but he had this, you know, knack and he's digging into music. And then I hear something about God damn PMRC. 00:13:37.620 --> 00:14:07.580 I'm like what are you talking about you know I had no clue what he's talking about and he goes PMRC Tipper Gore whore you know and so we're in an English class and I'm looking around going are you speaking English I don't even know what you're talking about and he's like there and he starts dishing me magazines and then he goes I said well you know I see the billboard that you were wearing of all these different bands and he's like I said give me give me something what can you give me because I was stuck in my sister was a Duran Duran nerd you know 00:14:07.580 --> 00:14:37.560 and pop music, everything. So it's like, I like Van Halen back in the day who did. Right. And, uh, some of the heavy rock in the seventies, you know, you pay attention to journey stuff, the stuff we grew up on when you're little, listen to the radio. This is completely different. Right. I said, George, give me something. And he turned into this encyclopedic class, right? It was a masterclass. And he goes here and he hands me master puppets. And I'm like, okay. So this pretty heavy, not knowing. I mean, at the 00:14:41.980 --> 00:15:07.560 And it was back and forth, you know, over and over again, listening to Master of Puppets. Okay, what a way to be introduced to the genre, right? Then having one of the classic albums of all time, not knowing in 86, just 00:15:07.580 --> 00:15:11.120 after it came out that it would be a classic of all time but you're listening going boy this is 00:15:11.190 --> 00:15:17.780 different this is kind of cool then you go back and go what else you got he goes how about this and it was it 00:15:18.080 --> 00:15:25.500 really was the big four it was the you know it was all this stuff you know that came out at that time 00:15:25.570 --> 00:15:32.080 when it was new and fresh and he he was on top of it before anybody else and so that was for middle school 00:15:32.460 --> 00:15:35.060 see i've always known about everything before everybody else 00:15:39.180 --> 00:15:40.220 We're getting to the list. 00:15:41.600 --> 00:15:43.440 I know I kind of went out of order. I apologize. 00:15:43.620 --> 00:15:44.020 No, it's all right. 00:15:44.600 --> 00:15:55.120 Of your script, but it was, that's, that's how he, he sucked me in. And I'm like, okay, great. And then opened my mind. And yes, I, I think I got my first concert t-shirt, um, in 88. 00:15:56.660 --> 00:16:04.180 So junior high school for me was 88 and went to see a injustice, you know, um, for all lives at pine knob. 00:16:04.400 --> 00:16:34.360 and sell out fires burning on the hill and craziness and mayhem. I'm like, oh my God, this is fantastic. And that's that. I wore the shirt the next day. And, you know, this goes back to George's comment of, you didn't look like the guy. You're the swim team guy. You're the marching band dude. Clean cut. Yeah. Yeah. Literally. And I wore my metallic shirt down the hall and I can't remember who, who it was. I, if I, somebody from our class stopped us and he goes, oh, 00:16:34.400 --> 00:17:04.380 Oh my god not you too because what happened they corrupted you and like what do you mean and they were and it's like you know it was a bad thing to like music you know and I just thought I got a kick out of that he goes not you too well you know metal was really frowned upon and you know it's like feel like metal you were scum oh yeah oh absolutely boy my my brain was much different than you guys it was way more accepted obviously where I'm from 00:17:04.380 --> 00:17:34.320 So, Ian, are you trying to tell us that George was your high school's John Bender? That was Josh. Yes. Yeah. That whole rebel mentality of the PMRC made me think of John Bender. It was funny because I just watched Breakfast Club with Barb like two or three nights ago. And I was like, I'm like Bender and the lamp kid. You know, like the nerd. 00:17:34.380 --> 00:17:35.860 And the bad guy. 00:17:38.380 --> 00:17:39.300 It wouldn't turn on. 00:17:39.350 --> 00:17:39.960 It wouldn't turn on. 00:17:41.240 --> 00:17:43.200 For me, the best part of that story was when you said, 00:17:43.260 --> 00:17:44.320 and then George sucked. 00:17:44.410 --> 00:17:45.240 And I thought, here we go. 00:17:48.860 --> 00:17:50.960 When you said George sucked and you opened your eyes, 00:17:51.050 --> 00:17:52.880 you're like, okay, here it comes. 00:17:54.400 --> 00:17:58.840 The best part for me is when he said George had long hair. 00:17:59.000 --> 00:17:59.940 I'm trying to picture that. 00:18:00.550 --> 00:18:01.200 Oh, yeah, man. 00:18:01.610 --> 00:18:02.240 Below the shoulder. 00:18:02.760 --> 00:18:03.280 I got a picture. 00:18:03.350 --> 00:18:03.880 I'll send it to you. 00:18:04.060 --> 00:18:33.240 I've got some right here. And George, I need to know what happened that summer. Like, how did you actually get in the metal? That's a good question. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. And that's not even a super long hair. Yeah. Yeah. That's like, this looks like Jack Black. Yeah, I know. Uh, and that's not it. Sorry, Jack Black. We're not trying to insult you, right? There you go. Curlier. It was curlier. If it air dried. Speaking of injustice for all shirts. There you go. There's the shirt. Oh, there's the guitar. 00:18:35.340 --> 00:19:04.040 Boy, when you got that, we were like, oh man, that's the coolest guitar ever. It was. He and I, you know, from that, we both got into guitar and playing music. He shaved. I don't recognize that guy. Yeah. There he is. Oh yeah. Look at that. That's transitional. I'm wearing the polo shirt, but I've got the jean jacket and you can just barely see the overkill patch and anthrax on the other side. 00:19:19.479 --> 00:19:32.820 I'm trying to be respectful to our guests, but there's so many things I could have said throughout the entire Ian's monologue that I'm just like, oh, I'm going to start calling George Gina, are we? 00:19:34.740 --> 00:20:04.040 No? Nope, nope. Georgina. Yeah, it was, you know, and George, you can attest to this too. Not long after George and Josh, one of our buddies back in high school, brought, I don't want to say metal to humdrum country bumpkin Dexter. But do you remember the flyer that started going around or to all the parents that said, if your parent, if you're a 00:20:04.080 --> 00:20:33.820 To all the parents, if your children have concert t-shirts, black, if they are isolating themselves in the room by themselves with their friends alone with the door shut, if they're listening to music constantly, yeah, there you go, they are on drugs. And usually if they're listening to music that's like of the heavy variety, they're on drugs. You know, that's just code. Like George just liked the metal to bring in dudes. 00:20:34.080 --> 00:20:37.840 and to turn up the music really loud so no one hear him doing the naughty thing. 00:20:39.560 --> 00:20:46.700 Well, you know, I finally makes it to the podcast. Welcome. Well, I don't know if you remember right before our senior year. 00:20:47.820 --> 00:20:50.520 They they they I maybe this is related. 00:20:50.660 --> 00:21:01.700 They sent out something saying that you could not wear, you know, starting the first day of school, you couldn't wear certain shirts that depicted anything violent or whatever. 00:21:02.240 --> 00:21:31.800 And so the first day of school, I went in prepared to get sent home. I wore my sanctuary refuge denied shirt, which has the guy like the evil priest guy pointing a gun at the Bible or something. And, you know, I was and I and I walked right up to the principal. I'm like, how you doing? And I'm like, you know, we talk about this occasionally. We really do. But it really should cross just about all of us. And that's I remember the satanic panic days really well, dude. Yeah, really well. And I lived in a small place, too. 00:21:31.880 --> 00:22:01.700 I remember that there were all these satanic cults that were running daycare centers and killing people and black, you know what I mean? All this different stuff. And metal was so wrapped up in that. See, Jade's different for me because there were dudes doing that. There was the night killer, you know, there was the Zodiac. It was real for us. And also the night prowler. Night stalker. Night stalker. Oh, yeah. A dude used to drive by my house all the time. 00:22:01.860 --> 00:22:31.820 Is that right? He was in some point, isn't he? He used to go on Highway 1, yeah. It's the same for me. I mean, I wore all black in high school, and I would wear a black trench coat when you could wear those all the time. Pre-Columbine. Yeah. And I got called to the principal's office quite a few times because I was listening to metal, and I would write these stories that would star like a Japanese samurai performing seppuku. And yeah, they called me in a few times. 00:22:33.280 --> 00:23:01.740 I mean, I had a really big high school. I was 900, I think, in the graduating class. Whoa. Can't even fathom that. There weren't a lot of brown people, so I was already, I was already stood out, and then I'm like in the middle. We didn't have brown people. Not really. I want to tell one more story. I have a story quick to tell that I don't think I've ever told on the podcast, but it was, so I lived in a small town in Missouri, and I was the Iron Maiden kid, the Slayer kid and everything. I'm trying to remember if this would have happened before I knew about Slayer, 00:23:01.820 --> 00:23:31.560 But in any case, I used to go and stay at this friend's friend of mine's house would stay overnight or whatever. And he was a metal guy too. He liked metal. But his dad, they went to a Baptist church. And one time his dad says to me, you know, we're having a big pizza party at the church on Friday night. You should come. It'd be fun. And everything. I was like, okay, sure. You know, because my buddy Steven's going to be there. We'll go hang out with Steven. Pizza. So sure enough. And there's pizza. There was indeed pizza. Yeah. And there's pizza. And there was pizza. And then they piled us all into the church, the pews and all that. And then had one of these traveling preacher, 00:23:31.820 --> 00:24:01.740 against rock and roll guys. You got tricked. You know, I got pulled into one of those things. It was the. Well, let me go a little further. I can just say they did the whole thing. They played Stairway to Heaven backwards. You know, they shared all this different stuff. And then and then I'll never forget this. And I have it. I have it right here. They went through it all. I mean, and they were like, oh, there was Black Oak, Arkansas, for some reason was satanic to them. But then at the end of the at the end of the thing, he reads. 00:24:01.820 --> 00:24:31.300 this, again, a Venom thing, and it was, we drink the vomit of the priests, make love with the dying whore, we suck the blood of the beasts, and hold the key to death's door. That's in the back of Black Metal on the back cover. And you were like, yeah! I'll never forget him going, these guys are playing for keeps, you know what I mean? And then I went home, and I was just like, I can't believe my friend's dad did that. Jay, this is crazy. There was a network, Trinity Broadcasting Network, I don't know if you guys ever heard of TBN. TBN. Yep. 00:24:31.360 --> 00:24:55.940 Jay, you are literally reciting a show they had on there where they just went through all of hard rock, metal, and rock and roll about how it was satanic. They even had the Eagles on there for the Hotel California stuff. Literally everything you just said. I watched this and my parents were like, what are you watching? I'm like, this is the most amazing show I've ever seen in my life. Because I was like, I literally, as soon as the show was done, I pulled out Led Zeppelin 4, started spinning. 00:24:58.300 --> 00:25:27.760 That's the thing. They tell you, like, when they had those conversations, it's like, you have just told me what I need to listen to. You made it easy for me. You know, speaking of the backwards messages, I don't know if Ian recalls this or not, but we had speech class in, like, 10th grade. 10th grade. Kathy Cook. Mrs. Cook. And we had to do, you know, all these different types of speeches. Job interviews and introduction speeches. Demonstration. And the demonstration speech. 00:25:28.320 --> 00:25:58.200 I brought in my entire sound system, which at the time consisted of the turntable with dual cassette and radio and a pair of speakers. I brought that in and I demonstrated how to play records backwards. And I played, I want to say Zeppelin 4. Did you do Animals from Pink Floyd? No, I did. I did Death Flipper's Hysteria because they have, 00:25:58.460 --> 00:26:28.180 like this very, you know, it's like we've been fighting with the gods of war or something. It was pretty, you know, neutral, but it was really easy to do. There's one on the piece of mine too. What was that, Jay? Oh, there is? Yeah, there's one. Yeah, the intro to the... Oh, the Iron Maiden? Is that what you said? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I might have done that as well. I don't know if I had that on vinyl yet. What does that say backwards? Nothing. No, I think it says something. I didn't think it was, I thought it was garbage. Well, listen, when you say it says nothing, 00:26:28.320 --> 00:26:55.700 What do you say something? I guess we'll find out. Something or nothing or anything. No, he literally says nothing. That's what it says. No kidding. You know, like, dude, what's mine say? You know, anyway, dude, where's my car? You know, dude, what's mine say? What was your grade on the speech? I don't remember. I think I probably did okay on that one because I think it was so out of ordinary. That's great. 00:27:01.700 --> 00:27:06.740 It was a lot of work and I felt really like proud of it because I was like, this is fucking cool. 00:27:07.400 --> 00:27:09.720 And like, you know, and then it was like, you know. 00:27:11.840 --> 00:27:11.960 Yeah. 00:27:14.740 --> 00:27:14.820 Yeah. 00:27:14.980 --> 00:27:15.540 No one in our school. 00:27:15.840 --> 00:27:16.940 That was I'm not surprised. 00:27:17.040 --> 00:27:19.480 They probably sat there like that's evil. 00:27:20.700 --> 00:27:20.820 Yeah. 00:27:20.880 --> 00:27:21.260 No kidding. 00:27:21.660 --> 00:27:21.840 Yeah. 00:27:22.980 --> 00:27:26.080 I think I did Lizzie Borden, Lizzie Borden's Red Rum, which, of course, murder. 00:27:27.740 --> 00:27:56.419 I was also on the swim team and I went to junior Olympics for swimming so nice there with you my man a fist bump bunch of swimmers Jay Jay's a swimmer but hold on I've got a hot news here for you so swimmers I well I used to swim before the plague but we've got a thing here so this is what from online what what is said on the maiden album and it's I understood you again by the way and I'm I missed it and I'm going to just I'm going to destroy this but it says he says 00:27:57.600 --> 00:28:26.120 It's not too understandable, it says. But what he says is, what ho said, de effing wid de tree bonson. Anyway, what it means is he's saying something like with really heaven, Rostax, and he was saying don't meddle with things you don't understand. Oh, that's right. Yeah, which I'd heard that before, but I didn't know. Don't meddle with things you don't understand. There you go. Much better than I could have done it. Sounds better with the dreadlocks, though. That reminds me of another one that I think I might have done, and there was a local Detroit band called Halloween, and they had an album called Don't Meddle With Evil. Do you remember them? 00:28:26.440 --> 00:28:56.260 No. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was a Detroit band. It was kind of hairish. You know, it was it was like heavier than than like rat, but it wasn't like thrashy like a landing stripper. And and they had a they had a backwards message that when you played it backward, it said something similar like don't mess with things you don't understand. Don't meddle with evil. But it was metal, you know, not metal. That's funny, man. What all those guys must have thought those preachers when things like, you know, 00:28:56.500 --> 00:29:24.680 "Don't Break the Oath" and Black Metal started coming. They were like, I mean, it's like, it's... They were loving it, man. Don't have to spit the eye. Come on, seriously? Thank you. This is what we've been waiting for, money. No, you're right, you're right. Something to talk about. Say, "Money, your money." Metal's the greatest thing that ever happened to those people. It is for sure. But that was my large digression. And when you say metal, you mean jail bars for Jim Baker and... Yeah. 00:29:26.440 --> 00:29:54.420 He's back by the way. Oh, I know he's he's selling his I thought he was dead. No, no, no, he's back on TV. He was selling COVID healing silver elixir or something called silver. He's selling it. Good grief. And this kid, I think, has a punk rock band, if I'm not mistaken. And it's kind of a born again Christian himself, but like really went away from, you know, really denounced his parents and all this stuff. 00:29:57.160 --> 00:30:26.400 I think I've heard of that yeah yeah it's not gonna be he actually seemed like pretty smart guy but yeah when to to circle back to what Ian was saying about the you know the flyers and all that I remember my neighbor I was friends with my neighbor growing up we were the same age and then by like fifth grade he went off to Grace Bible Academy they were Baptists I think because they went to that Baptist church on Baker Road do you know the one and they had like Awana and all that there 00:30:26.420 --> 00:30:55.920 And they took me there one time. They were like, they took me to one of these classes, the like, you know, metal is evil and save your soul. And they were like, they're very concerned for me. And I was just like, whatever. And they're like, striper's cool. Read the room. Read the room. What am I wearing? Yeah. Well, I have a question for John, since you brought up TBN, what's your second favorite show on TBN? I haven't watched it since the metal is evil episode. 00:30:56.420 --> 00:31:00.440 You have a favorite series Believe it or not, so I'm old enough to remember 00:31:01.340 --> 00:31:03.940 when some of these were the only shows on late at night 00:31:04.660 --> 00:31:07.900 and I would just watch all kinds of really bad local television 00:31:08.400 --> 00:31:09.780 I remember that, I'm old enough 00:31:09.920 --> 00:31:11.200 I got those down too 00:31:11.560 --> 00:31:13.680 You would literally sit there till 2am 00:31:13.910 --> 00:31:14.840 till the flag came up 00:31:15.380 --> 00:31:16.800 and then the buzz 00:31:16.990 --> 00:31:18.120 and that's how you woke up always 00:31:18.250 --> 00:31:19.240 is because of the static 00:31:19.680 --> 00:31:23.120 How many people, does everybody remember the national anthem at the end of the day? 00:31:23.120 --> 00:31:23.320 Oh yeah 00:31:23.480 --> 00:31:24.780 That used to be my job 00:31:24.800 --> 00:31:54.080 That used to be my job. Is that right? I worked in broadcasting and I was the late shift guy. And I'm the one that ran the national anthem and reached over and turned the transmitter off at about 1.30 in the morning down in Indiana. Wow. That's cool. I know there was a guy there actually doing that, but it wasn't. Things weren't as automated. Hey, I want to ask you. Recently, we had the Temple of Void guys on and we were talking about the old horror movies and TV shows and stuff. 00:31:54.120 --> 00:32:24.080 Do you remember like channel 50 creature feature on Saturdays and that like gas Sir Graves Gastly was that his name yeah I was trying to that's what I wanted to know I was like what the heck was that guy's name Sir Graves Gastly so uh channel 50 was an independent station in Detroit like UHF or something yeah it's and they had they well he had and they had what was it Led Zeppelin uh their intro song was um a whole lot of love 00:32:24.100 --> 00:32:24.300 Yes. 00:32:25.080 --> 00:32:25.320 At the. 00:32:26.820 --> 00:32:27.080 Yeah. 00:32:27.220 --> 00:32:27.940 That terrified me. 00:32:28.280 --> 00:32:31.020 Before I ever knew Led Zeppelin, I was like, oh, that is some terrifying music. 00:32:31.180 --> 00:32:31.940 And then I heard Led Zeppelin. 00:32:31.960 --> 00:32:32.600 I was like, oh, shit. 00:32:33.360 --> 00:32:33.800 I know. 00:32:34.220 --> 00:32:36.600 You finally found out the origin of it. 00:32:36.660 --> 00:32:36.960 But yeah. 00:32:37.280 --> 00:32:41.460 And they ran all the B-70s schlock horror in the afternoons. 00:32:41.600 --> 00:32:42.700 It usually is a double feature. 00:32:42.900 --> 00:32:44.840 And you got your Creature from the Black Lagoon. 00:32:44.960 --> 00:32:50.100 You got the 70s vampire flicks and Godzilla sometimes, you know. 00:32:50.640 --> 00:32:52.080 But yeah, that ran for a long time. 00:32:52.380 --> 00:32:52.460 Yeah. 00:32:52.720 --> 00:32:53.660 Graves Ghastly. 00:32:54.460 --> 00:33:23.720 I've been trying to remember that. Laying in a coffin, you'd open the coffin lid and he'd sit up and go, here's our first, you know, first movie of the day. We had something very, very similar in the Philadelphia area where I grew up. So it did have Ben Wells, Ben Gouley, possibly. It may have been, but I distinctly remember Saturday mornings, black and white, old school, like Creature of the Black Lagoon, all the Bela Gosi, Boris Karloff movies. And I do remember a guy, don't remember his name, but there was a guy who would like introduce stuff, 00:33:23.840 --> 00:33:53.400 coming out of a coffin. Yeah. And then, um, very, well, they, all the regions had one, you know, I mean, not everybody is still on the channel where he's at. And I don't know what channel he's on right now, but I, over the last five years, every once in a while, I'll find him and I watch this show. So just real quick, I know that Gen Xers get accused of, Oh, and as you get older, older people get accused of, well, back in my day, but I have to say, and I'm guessing you guys kind of feel the same way, that kind of local station stuff. 00:33:53.580 --> 00:34:23.560 I really do miss the feel and what it brought because it was like all you had your networks which at that time was only three maybe four channels maximum in your area and then you had all these like you said UHF channels and everything they showed all these amazing old films you know they had these you know at seven o'clock it was going to be like the town PTA meeting was going to be shown but then at like nine it was like it's a monster movie and it just all kind of flowed and I just I really do miss those 00:34:53.600 --> 00:34:57.180 And one of them was a documentary of, uh, 00:34:58.000 --> 00:34:59.460 LaVey here in San Francisco. 00:34:59.600 --> 00:35:00.580 It was just straight up. 00:35:00.850 --> 00:35:01.520 Do you know what I'm talking about? 00:35:01.800 --> 00:35:01.860 Yeah. 00:35:01.960 --> 00:35:02.960 I've been, I've been to his house. 00:35:04.240 --> 00:35:05.400 I driven by it a couple of times. 00:35:05.740 --> 00:35:07.420 And I got really scared and took off. 00:35:07.980 --> 00:35:08.780 It's not black anymore. 00:35:08.910 --> 00:35:12.460 They painted a different color now, but, but then also then like the, 00:35:13.000 --> 00:35:13.860 like, like last weekend, 00:35:13.950 --> 00:35:17.180 they just shut all these weird old John Cassavetes biker movies and stuff. 00:35:17.440 --> 00:35:18.080 Like it's awesome. 00:35:18.600 --> 00:35:19.560 Like glory stoppers. 00:35:19.670 --> 00:35:21.720 One was called and all these, I can't remember the names. 00:35:21.720 --> 00:35:22.880 I watched glory angels. 00:35:23.000 --> 00:35:52.000 I watched a bunch of them, dude, and they're brutal, and they're like, oh, you know, it's like watching. You're like, how could they make this stuff back then and get away with it? Yeah. So keep your eye on Turner Classic Movies late at night, and they're doing that, and a lot of it has that really, really local feel to it. Well, one of the independent channels here in Detroit was WXON Channel 20. Yeah. And after school, George will tell you, after school, we'd get home, and they had Johnny Sacco's Flying Roll. 00:35:53.020 --> 00:36:22.860 I loved that show. You know, like the original, right? Yeah, man. And Ultraman. The Ultraman. Then you had Batman and Robin. I loved Ultraman. They like Wonderbug and all that kind of crap. I don't even know what Wonderbug was, but it was like Marty, Sid and Marty Cross stuff, like Land of the Lost producers, right? Yeah. So we'd get all those in a string and it's, it's like, talk about messing with your mind, you know, as a kid watching these things going, okay. And it fits into the pop culture thing. Like they're feeding you, 00:36:23.020 --> 00:36:52.980 watching horror movies and so you know that was our youth really yeah watching tv ultra man ours was creature features with bob wilkins i'll never forget that oh he was he was just he his was different where you guys were seeing someone come out of a coffin he used to sit in a chair and smoke a cigar nice pipe and he had like the uh what do you call the ash cough or whatever it's called around the neck it's gone and he'd have the fancy jacket on and i was like ask 00:36:53.000 --> 00:37:22.860 Ascot, thank you. And he would have the kind of sophisticated creature features. Sophisticated? Yeah, it was awesome. I miss all that stuff. I had Sven Gulli. So I have Sling right now from my Roku, and they have a channel called Comet, and they play a lot of those old, weird creature features and stuff. I'm always recording them because that kind of brings me back to the old days. Did you guys ever listen to old radio shows and stuff? Oh, God, yeah. Dr. Demento. Yeah. 00:37:23.000 --> 00:37:52.980 All the time. So good. Dr. Demento is fantastic. I used to stay up late to watch a show for music when the networks finally signed off. It was called Night Flights. Yeah. But this was before USA picked it up. It was originally, and it was Mary Hartman was the host. That's where I saw, yeah, I saw Rush Existage left on that. I saw a Genesis concert from like 76. It was all these old rock concerts. And I tried to stay up every time and I would always fall asleep halfway through, you know, because it was 00:37:53.000 --> 00:38:22.440 on at 2 o'clock in the morning. Yeah. Ian, did you ever listen to Metal Shop on the radio? Yeah. See, I was just going to bring a metal shop. So once George got me into this stuff, right, the slippery slope, as they say. I'm slippery. I use lube. He's slippery. I think you told me about Metal Shop. Yeah. I found out it's like, okay. And I used to, it was on Riff, I think it was. Had to be. Riff or Wheels. W-L-L-Z. 00:38:23.000 --> 00:38:52.960 And you'd hear anything from Metallica. I mean, they actually played stuff from Injustice on there. And you'd get early Bon Jovi, your favorite George. Yeah. Yeah, they definitely did the spectrum. You could get, you know, Europe and stuff like that. But then they'd play. They'd always like end with like nu metal. It was something I can't remember. That's not what it was called. But and that's where you would. That's why I heard Manowar for the first time. 00:38:56.339 --> 00:39:21.980 Yeah, and it got heavier over the years. It started with like hard rock, like the heavy rock stuff. And then you can't deny it. I mean, this stuff was getting big, right? And you're right. I remember listening going, what am I listening to? You know, it just got faster and louder. But that was Sunday nights, I think it was 11 or something. Yeah, I had to like hide that I was like going to bed and like put on my headphones and like put the covers up. 00:39:22.620 --> 00:39:49.400 Yeah, used to record it and play it back the next day going, what'd I miss? Oh, smart. Ian, with the way you've been doing some of your radio voice here, I'm just waiting for Sunday, Sunday, Sunday from you anytime. Sunday, Sunday, Sunday. Monster Trucks. Well, my kids always make fun of me. They go, are you mad? No, but you're talking to me in your TV voice. I'm mad. When they were little. 00:39:52.700 --> 00:39:53.320 - Oh yeah. 00:39:53.320 --> 00:39:54.160 - I think it might still be on. 00:39:54.180 --> 00:39:56.880 There was a great, it was one early episode years ago. 00:39:57.520 --> 00:39:58.640 And I remember they were all watching TV. 00:39:58.660 --> 00:40:00.180 They all sit around watching TV at Frank's house. 00:40:00.320 --> 00:40:03.420 And this commercial comes on and it was Monday, Monday, Monday. 00:40:04.300 --> 00:40:05.580 Mowers, mowers, mowers. 00:40:06.680 --> 00:40:08.600 And they're all, and then they show them and they're all like, 00:40:09.520 --> 00:40:11.340 you know, just jaws strapped to the ground. 00:40:11.480 --> 00:40:12.480 We're going to that. 00:40:12.860 --> 00:40:16.500 - Hey Jay, 9:00 AM and that boy ain't right. 00:40:18.140 --> 00:40:19.680 - That show was funny, man. 00:40:21.180 --> 00:40:48.740 What was Bobby? Bobby was the boy, right? Damn it, Bobby. What did he drink? Like LSD-laced milk or something? But dad. And he's sitting there, he's like, he turned on to a higher plane. He's like, you know, milk's going to go bad. There it goes. You know, like he could hear, he could feel the milk going bad or something. I never forget that episode. I have to share one more line. 00:40:48.760 --> 00:41:17.260 Yeah. There's one more line I have to share with you that's so funny from that show, and it was when Chuck Mangione. Yeah. He was on all the time. He opened a Megalomard or something, you know, and so the ladies and gentlemen, Chuck Mangione, and he comes up to the microphone with his trumpet. He goes, hello, Ardale, whatever the name of the town is. Are you ready to soft rock? I believe it's a flugelhorn. I haven't heard that name in probably 30 years. 00:41:18.180 --> 00:41:48.140 You remember when he did that? Yes. Do you remember what that song was for? That was the theme from the 1970s Olympics. Olympics. Yeah, it was. Yes. God, I'm learning new things all the time. It was maybe 77, 78 or something. It was the Winter Olympics, I think. I think it was. It never sounded so good. It was big for a while, man. So, Ian. Back to metal. Yeah, I was going to say, do you have any last stories you want to impart from the old 00:41:48.180 --> 00:42:18.040 days before we move on. Sure. I got, um, I have a couple that are, I mean, they're funny and it's just, um, that's what we're looking for. Situational. So, um, uh, concert based one that I just crack up and I'll, I never forgot it is, uh, George is like, Oh man, I'm going to Ann Arbor. I got concert tickets to see overkill. I'm going to go see overkill. I got tickets. You know where I'm going. Yeah. I got tickets. And he was talking about it all week. He's like, 00:42:18.160 --> 00:42:47.960 Oh yeah, I think it was like a Thursday night show or something. I finally going to go see him or he's like, I got the tickets. We're like, cool dude. He's like, Oh yeah, I can't wait. He comes back the next day and he's pissed, just pissed off. Just like, dude, he's like, I can't wait. I wasted my money on that show. I can't believe it. Like what's going on. He goes, well, okay. Go on there. It says overkill. I walk in the door. It's urge. Oh, different. Yeah. Completely. 00:42:51.600 --> 00:42:57.660 Yeah, it was it was urge comma overkill like there were two different bands 00:42:59.080 --> 00:43:01.300 I thought that was the greatest thing ever made 00:43:01.760 --> 00:43:05.860 Yeah, overkill who the hell's urge overkill and then they show up again. When was that? Was that? 00:43:06.640 --> 00:43:08.620 Uh, in Pulp Fiction, right? Yeah 00:43:11.220 --> 00:43:12.440 You'll be a woman 00:43:17.660 --> 00:43:18.140 George 00:43:18.140 --> 00:43:48.080 The record is actually pretty fucking good. I was working at a record store. Was that Sister Havana? Wasn't that their big song? Yeah. Yeah. And it's just kind of this was before that. It's like vamped up cheap trick, you know, they were a bit bad for a while. That was like my Pantera story. That let's see that one. When I worked at Kroger, when John, John T and I worked at Kroger, there was this other guy that worked there. He was Texan. And, you know, he was a metalhead. And, you know, 00:43:48.160 --> 00:44:18.120 a bagger like us and you know we talked metal and stuff and he was like dude you need to come down to the whatever club in ann arbor tonight see my friends from from my hometown they're they're coming out to play their metal they're cool y'all come see them and i'm like oh yeah who are they it's like pantera and i was like what the fuck that's that sounds fucking stupid as shit i'm not going to that and i could have gone and met pantera but no for what it's worth i think you made the right choice 00:44:19.759 --> 00:44:48.100 I'll share one with you and it was when I was in the fourth grade and I remember this distinctly and I was reading an article about Kiss I'm in the fourth grade I'm a Kiss fan and everything and I get to this thing about Gene Simmons and it says or so says blah blah Gene Simmons and it says comma bassist and I and bear with me I was in the fourth grade I read it as deceased and I'm like he died and I went around telling all my friends I was like dude fucking Gene Simmons died you won't believe this man it says right here he's deceased you know 00:44:48.100 --> 00:45:18.000 That reminds me, and I probably wouldn't have thought of this if Ian wasn't here, but there was this kid that we went to school with in, like, third grade, fourth grade. I don't remember his name at all because he was only there briefly, but he swore up and down that his dad was Peter Criss. Ooh. That's all you got. And, like, he would, like, say all these stories and something. He was one of those transient kids that he was, like, he was there for, like, you know, a third of a school year. 00:45:18.120 --> 00:45:47.720 and then gone. And I always remember that. He swore up and down that his dad was Peter Criss. You can get away with that in the 70s and 80s. Before the inter-google. Chances are his father was Peter Criss. Yeah. 17 other half-brothers. Hey, I gotta say something. I just looked it up. Peter Criss has one child and it's a girl. All right, then. So he was full of shit. So he made the trans that he knows of. Well, see, that's a good point. That's a good point. 00:45:48.120 --> 00:46:17.660 You guys make good points. My mom has always told me it was Peter. Yeah. So you said there was another one. What was the other one? Yeah, it's music. It's like guitar related. I almost electrocuted George. So we were at his house at his house. We just started playing guitar. And we were sharing magazines and things like that. You know, getting it really get into music. Music magazines to be clear. So is playing guitar and sharing magazines. The magazines he gave me I couldn't open. 00:46:21.659 --> 00:46:22.580 So we're there. 00:46:22.830 --> 00:46:24.060 I think you had your, 00:46:24.290 --> 00:46:25.860 I think you were showing me the warlock, 00:46:26.020 --> 00:46:26.720 the BC rich. 00:46:26.860 --> 00:46:27.080 Yes. 00:46:27.220 --> 00:46:27.440 Got it. 00:46:27.980 --> 00:46:28.400 And I'm like, 00:46:28.500 --> 00:46:28.880 Oh man. 00:46:29.340 --> 00:46:30.780 So we're there and we're trading, 00:46:31.100 --> 00:46:31.240 you know, 00:46:31.640 --> 00:46:32.320 I have an amp, 00:46:32.360 --> 00:46:34.320 an old seventies Gibson solid state, 00:46:34.930 --> 00:46:37.280 non grounded into a PV, 00:46:37.810 --> 00:46:40.720 a little 10 inch solid state clunker, 00:46:41.620 --> 00:46:41.740 you know, 00:46:41.800 --> 00:46:42.520 no money in high school. 00:46:42.630 --> 00:46:42.920 So we had, 00:46:42.920 --> 00:46:43.680 I plugged it together. 00:46:44.260 --> 00:46:47.560 So if nobody touches me, 00:46:47.680 --> 00:46:48.020 you're good. 00:46:48.480 --> 00:47:17.460 But if I touch you and you're holding on to your guitar and you're grounded, I'm going to kill you. So I used to have all the strings on the neck of my guitar, the head of my guitar sticking out, right? Because I saw Kerry King. Yeah, me too. So it's like, yeah, it's all over the place. I can't tell you how many times I fucking stabbed myself doing that shit. I know. I went right up your fingernail or something stupid like that. I poked myself in the eye. Like literally like right in the corner of the eye. Luckily it was in the corner, but. Yeah, I dodged that one. 00:47:17.500 --> 00:47:46.940 But I'm standing there and he's like, I don't know what you were doing. You had your little gorilla. That little yellow. Five inch speaker. I don't know. It had the fart noise. It's like, yeah, that was terrible. And so I lean over and he's going, ah, they look over and I had the strings, the exposed strings at the end of my neck on his neck. And he's like, ooh, he's twitching and he's screaming, ah, what the hell's that? And I'm like, oh, sorry. I'm not, I'm not grounded. So I almost killed him. 00:47:47.500 --> 00:48:16.860 It's almost like the stories of the guys grabbing the mic stand on stage in the 70s and getting. So I'm almost wiped out George before. Before there could ever be a podcast. There would ever be a. Yeah. The legendary. Yeah. You know, it's OK, man. We've all almost killed him at least once. I swear it wasn't intentional. We'll see. There's a difference. George, I need to know, you know, what led to your transformation that summer before you popped Ian's metal cherry? I need to know. 00:48:17.480 --> 00:48:47.260 You mean like question? Well, what was the tipping point? Well, okay. New NXS album just didn't do it for you? No. I mean, I, okay. So my very first album that I ever bought was Sticks. Kill Ray was here on cassette. Okay. Mr. Roboto. I was like, that was my jam. I was like fifth grade. My second album ever was Michael Jackson's Thriller. Whoa. And, uh, and from there, I mean, cause like, 00:48:47.320 --> 00:49:17.080 I literally, I had, I mean, none of my friends really listened to music. And, you know, I started off listening to like my dad's Beach Boys tapes and some Beatles and stuff. And as we've mentioned before on the podcast, taping theme songs off of TV shows. Oh, that was music for me. And then somebody, you know, like said, hey, radio. And I heard Mr. Obato and I was like, that is fucking awesome. And I bought that. And, and, but, 00:49:17.320 --> 00:49:43.000 It was all just kind of rock music at the time. And then I remember somebody like Chico slash Kurt. Kurt Hugie. Kurt Hugie. Or like Dan Swirsky or somebody like telling me about Black Sabbath and ACDC and stuff like that. And so I was listening to stuff like that alongside Michael Jackson and, you know, everything else. And just like, yeah. 00:49:47.340 --> 00:50:17.300 metal thing started and rat came along and I was like ooh rat and stuff like that and I'm still listening to you know pretty poppy stuff but really it was Master Puppets I mean I would you know I had listened to like Don't Break the Oath and Melissa Ride the Lightning a couple things like that did you buy those blind you know because like for me you were the information 00:50:17.320 --> 00:50:45.840 So, well, you know, we were all pretty broke back then. And there was a lot of tape trading, you know, between me and Kurt and Josh and George Schnelly and Greg Nowak and those guys. And I remember Kurt gave me a cassette tape that had, don't break the oath on one side and ride the lightning on the other. And so that was my introduction to both those bands. And then somebody, I want to say it was Mike Fisher, 00:50:46.700 --> 00:51:15.540 Gave me the first Metal Church album. And that, I was like, holy shit, this is really cool. But it wasn't until Master of Puppets that I was like, holy shit. And like, you know, 86 on, that was just, and so that would have been eighth grade. So by, like, into ninth grade, I was like starting to grow the hair. By 10th grade, it was down to the shoulders. And, you know, by senior year, it was like consuming the hallways of the school, but as it receded from my head. 00:51:16.480 --> 00:51:44.060 But yeah, so there you go. Well, then you got me going on the same damn album. Right? Yeah, man. I mean, it was if it works for one, it works for all, right? I was the only album I listened to all summer of 86. Wow, I was very, I mean, I'm not, you know, I would be lying if I didn't say that. It was just because it was so awesome. It was literally my mission. I was like, this is so awesome. 00:51:46.480 --> 00:52:16.420 this all summer. You know, to show my fucking love for this album, I am making the decision to only listen to this all summer. And that's what I did. So glad you branched out eventually, George. Yeah. Well, I had to. I mean, there was there was frickin rain and blood and, you know, among the living. And so. All right. So I asked you if you had the top five quarantine albums. Could you list those? 00:52:16.460 --> 00:52:17.020 for us. 00:52:19.020 --> 00:52:19.580 I do. 00:52:21.360 --> 00:52:24.780 This is the stuff I've been kind of been cycling through listening to. 00:52:26.420 --> 00:52:33.340 Some metal, some classic rock stuff, but number five is Powerage, ACDC. 00:52:33.740 --> 00:52:39.200 I'm really into the old dry sound of the old school ACDC, especially playing guitar 00:52:39.480 --> 00:52:40.680 here in the basement for therapy. 00:52:42.220 --> 00:52:44.500 Love that dry, overdriven sound. 00:52:44.640 --> 00:52:45.060 Love it. 00:52:46.520 --> 00:53:14.960 This is a live since was it Hendrix family finally got the rights back to his catalog from an old manager or something like that. They finally got it back. They've been releasing some new things over the last couple of years. Hendrix live. I believe it was New Year's Eve 1970 at the Fillmore with Band of Gypsies. So you had Machine Gun debut. You know, that's basically them just jamming out the new songs for Band of Gypsies. So Machine Gun on there. 00:53:15.060 --> 00:53:45.020 is all-time favorite of mine live. Like I said, I've been dying for something new as opposed to digging into back catalogs. So the number three would be I stumbled across Ghost a couple years ago. And so I've been doing, I don't even know how to pronounce the name, Meliora or whatever it is. I'm digging that one, but I really liked their debut. So that's the one. That's the one. It's so, it sounds like the same. 00:53:45.080 --> 00:54:13.600 70s. It sounds awesome. I love that one. Live After Death, it is my go-to. I used to fall asleep to that thing. It's still my all-time favorite Iron Maiden and album of all time. I just love Live After Death. And then my number one that's really getting me through is South of Heaven from Slayer. Yeah. Will just woke up. South of Heaven is, that was my first Slayer album. Thank you, Jordan. I'm not dead yet. 00:54:16.120 --> 00:54:45.020 And I went backwards and then I went forward. So South of Heaven was the first one going, my word, this is the greatest thing of all time. And I have a fee. I think Slayer is my all time. Besides Iron Maiden. Those are my two pantheons. That's my favorite Slayer. Love it. Hey. Did you get yourself to a goodbye tour show? I did. I did. First time I saw him, I was lucky. Here's a funny story. I took my 15 year old daughter. 00:54:45.120 --> 00:54:45.540 with me. 00:54:47.420 --> 00:54:50.880 Because I couldn't get anybody to go. It was in Grand Rapids, Van Andel. 00:54:51.680 --> 00:55:07.100 And I got the tickets. I said, I'm going. I don't care what it costs. I'm going. And Lamb of God, Anthrax, Testament was fantastic. I've never seen them live. Chuck Billy can still sing his balls off. He was great. Alex Skolnick, two of my favorites of all time. Thank you, George. 00:55:09.260 --> 00:55:38.680 But Lamb of God, boy, they stole the show. That was a great, great experience. And I saw Napalm Death for the first time. Yeah, I saw that with them when I saw them too. Yeah, it was really good. First time I ever saw them and my 15-year-old daughter, I kept telling her, I gave her earplugs. I said, think of this as an anthropology experiment or study. Just watch the people study the culture and that sort of thing. But when Slayer, you know, at the opening of the, when they had the crosses and the jun, jun, jun, jun, jun, jun. 00:55:38.760 --> 00:56:07.580 and they rotated upside down. I looked at them like, yeah. Through the horns and she's like, I'm going, oh, what is this? I'm like, yeah. Dad, come on. I'm like, yeah. Give me goosebumps just talking about it. Oh, yeah. The first time I saw them, not to make you jealous, was the South of Heaven tour. Actually, I saw them in a club in Tucson in South of Heaven tour. I had been a Slayer fanatic since Jonah Mercy. That was like the best moment of my young adult life. 00:56:08.780 --> 00:56:38.740 18 years old but I didn't see him till divine intervention which there's no there's nothing like seeing like especially in you know teenage years your formative years when you see that band like if you have that band that you were like I am so into you it's crazy and then you finally see him live um that was injustice for all George I mean you told me about that you go you gotta see the concert you won't believe what they're doing and but then you're listening to the musical and this is amazing and then you see him and it just it I don't know it got into my DNA it changed 00:56:38.760 --> 00:57:08.500 me. I went and hung out at the club all day to meet Slayer. To meet him. You know what I mean? And I just fucking, I don't know where the pictures are, but I have pictures of me with him. Yeah, I've seen it. You better. I would love to see. That'd be great. That's amazing. Back when Jay was a hippie. Back when I could still support that cause because there was, you know, enough growth up top. Hey, there's more than I got. Well, okay, fair there. But when I, if I grow it now, George, it's like I have it, it grows like here and then there's two spaces here where there's no hair. 00:57:12.620 --> 00:57:38.380 But yeah, that's my quarantine list. I've been jamming on that stuff pretty regularly. Right on. All right. T-shirt beer shack, man. Yeah. Let's move on to the script, wasn't it? Yeah, yeah. Let's move on to the. So just for listeners, the script says it's a bulleted list. There's introduction. Oh, and then it says T-shirt and beer shack. 00:57:38.780 --> 00:58:08.020 Which we haven't done yet. And then it says Ian interview. So actually, I guess technically I should have done that first. So sorry. So Ian, what are you wearing? What are you drinking? Drinking me some good old Guinness. Yeah, I love my Guinness. I had a rough week at work, crazy week at work. So Guinness, get me going. It'll do you. And I think I have my Iron Maiden, one of my thousand Iron Maiden t-shirts. 00:58:08.060 --> 00:58:37.880 My kids know what to get me for Christmas. Always find an Iron Maiden shirt in my stocking. And this is from, I think, the 92 tour. Give us a look. It's the... Yeah, that was the... What was that? The horror thing? Fear the Dark. Yeah, yeah. Fear the Dark tour, I believe it was. But yeah, before the voice went on Bruce and then it came back miraculously in what? Six years. 00:58:38.599 --> 00:58:39.000 2,000. 00:58:39.000 --> 00:58:39.260 2,000. 00:58:39.660 --> 00:58:40.200 That's the last, 00:58:40.500 --> 00:58:41.740 isn't that the last show Bruce did? 00:58:42.680 --> 00:58:42.980 It was. 00:58:43.090 --> 00:58:43.500 When he left? 00:58:43.690 --> 00:58:46.240 I think that's the artwork for that, 00:58:46.440 --> 00:58:50.020 because Adrian Smith actually played in that show. 00:58:50.560 --> 00:58:50.700 Yeah, 00:58:50.740 --> 00:58:52.000 what it is is they did a show, 00:58:52.170 --> 00:58:53.520 and they actually did all these horror, 00:58:54.720 --> 00:58:55.720 weird magic tricks. 00:58:55.790 --> 00:58:56.520 It was a pay-per-view. 00:58:56.670 --> 00:58:57.180 I saw that. 00:58:57.250 --> 00:58:57.580 At the end, 00:58:57.580 --> 00:58:59.900 they had Bruce impaled on a stick spinning. 00:59:00.220 --> 00:59:00.660 Did they? 00:59:00.960 --> 00:59:01.120 Yeah. 00:59:01.600 --> 00:59:02.660 That was Bruce's last show. 00:59:02.750 --> 00:59:02.940 And then, 00:59:03.100 --> 00:59:03.260 yes, 00:59:03.260 --> 00:59:04.820 the artwork for that DVD is that, 00:59:05.220 --> 00:59:06.100 is that t-shirt. 00:59:06.600 --> 00:59:06.680 Yeah. 00:59:07.300 --> 00:59:07.460 Sweet. 00:59:07.560 --> 00:59:34.320 They may have used it for other things that year, clearly. All right. Mark is on. What are you wearing? What are you drinking? I'm wearing an Incantation shirt. It's 2019 tour shirt. And I am drinking a Droit Theories Dead and Gone. It's funny how a beer brewed half an hour from me is being drank in Hawaii. 00:59:37.540 --> 01:00:06.100 I'm not a ton of money to ship it here. It's a hazy Imperial IPA. It's 10%. I drank it a while ago, but I'm like, after mid-year, I gotta win a little bit. All right, Matt. I'm wearing obituary tour shirt from the Self-Tow album, and I am drinking Hammerheart Leafs Smoked American Lager. Noice. But I also have a... I fucking hate you. 01:00:07.560 --> 01:00:09.680 It's not as smoky as I would hope it was 01:00:09.880 --> 01:00:11.600 because I was really jonesing for something smoky 01:00:11.720 --> 01:00:12.760 but it's all the liquor store had 01:00:12.900 --> 01:00:15.700 I also do have a stash of a Joy Theory beer 01:00:16.220 --> 01:00:17.640 because they ship it to my house 01:00:17.900 --> 01:00:22.700 I have a DC half smoke if you want to smoke it 01:00:26.400 --> 01:00:26.800 John 01:00:28.200 --> 01:00:30.120 Hey first off that is not from that show 01:00:30.120 --> 01:00:30.680 I was wrong 01:00:30.920 --> 01:00:32.220 It's from Live at Donington 01:00:32.680 --> 01:00:33.440 Oh fair enough 01:00:33.610 --> 01:00:34.280 Yeah yeah yeah 01:00:34.280 --> 01:01:04.080 It's the cover that got banned, actually. Banned? Yeah. And they changed it to an all-white cover with, like, just New Times Roman print on it only, and that was it. So, anyway, I drank an hour ago. A Drite Theory, if you're still breathing. There's a lot of a Drite Theory going around. Well, yeah, I mean, shit, we just live right here, you know? And my shirt is, not that anyone can see it, it's Aquatine Hunger Force. 01:01:04.300 --> 01:01:34.260 It's greater than. It's got a computer font. You know, the old DOS prompt. Yeah. And most people don't get the joke when you're standing there looking at them. I used to get a bunch of think T-shirts that had like code on them that said things. And if you know who IgNIC, NIC, NIC, and ER are, then 01:01:36.660 --> 01:02:04.260 You've never seen Aqua Teen Hunger Force? I remember the advertising and watch that show. Is that that thing with like meat wad? Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Okay. I saw it like once or twice. Well, you're missing out. All right, then. It's up to me. Yes, sir. So the good doctor, can I get a doctor? Doctor. Doctor. Doctor. Doctor. The old ox, my great friend and 01:02:04.280 --> 01:02:32.320 Dr. Lang. Dr. Lang. The great Dr. Allison Lang, who is now the head brewer at Old Ox. Whenever I see it and it's fresh, I grab the Hoppy Place, their IPA. And then because I was going to talk to George today, I got the 16-ounce cans of the Truth, the Flying Dog, the Truth, which is kind of like one of my go-to IPAs. 01:02:33.320 --> 01:03:03.260 Which is brewed 10 minutes from my house. I know. And I'm wearing my Conan t-shirt, which is their tour t-shirt when they play to Atlas. And if you guys want to see my butt, hold on. I'm going to turn around. Always. Yeah, you know, we do. We've never seen it before. Yeah. This will be a first. That's cool. Somewhere on the back, it says Atlas Brew Works. Oh, nice. That's awesome. On your shirt or your ass? It's tattooed on there. Sorry, I forgot to pull it down. It's tattooed on my ass. 01:03:04.720 --> 01:03:07.100 It just says Atlas reverses the crack. 01:03:07.650 --> 01:03:07.820 Yeah. 01:03:08.940 --> 01:03:11.160 It says love entrance here. 01:03:11.840 --> 01:03:12.120 Yes. 01:03:15.140 --> 01:03:26.500 When I have a quick story, when Conan played Atlas, it was probably night 2017, early 2017. 01:03:27.160 --> 01:03:30.760 It was one of the first big like international shows we had. 01:03:30.860 --> 01:03:59.880 It was like a big deal. Like, oh my God, we're getting Conan? Like, really? At the brewery? Conan? So it was a... And then, of course, they put the... I shouldn't say of course, but it's pretty rare now that when independent bands actually make a shirt, a tour t-shirt, it actually has the dates on the back, like the old school ones that they always did. And so this is one of the first ones that actually had Atlas on the back. So I love the shirt. Yeah. 01:04:01.260 --> 01:04:30.640 All right, well, I'm the usual thing, a little early right now for me, but I'm having my blue bottle iced coffee. Don't know blue bottle is fucking amazing. And I'm wearing my kettle decapitation shirt. Nice. This was one of the ones that came with a pre-order of Death Atlas, but it reminds me to tell you guys, for those of you who are still buying vinyl, that they are reissuing a monolith in humanity at Metal Blade. So I have that coming with another shirt. And I'm glad they reissued it because they're 01:04:30.680 --> 01:05:00.280 That catalog stuff is kind of expensive for some reason. I paid a little extra to get the harvest floor. Like I probably paid 40 or 50 bucks for that. I'm going to suck. Back when I bought it, I bought the cattle decap boxed vinyl box set. I know. And that's even worse if you try to get your hands on that. So forget about it. But so I've kind of got almost everything I need now. But anyway, so this was the one that came with Death Atlas. Cool. I ordered a couple of those reissues. Was there a couple? 01:05:00.680 --> 01:05:30.520 More than one of the cat with the cat? I think so. I'll look. I could have missed them. I mean, this was what was just announced. I think Death Atlas is probably the first one I don't have on vinyl. I want to know, too. Interesting. So I'm wearing for the first time my classic Death logo shirt that fits, finally. Lovely. Very nice. And started off with Brimminghorn Mulatto. 01:05:31.960 --> 01:06:00.140 Which is Bracketinga flower, honeydew, honeymead, aged in... Say that again. I don't have... What now? I have no idea what this word is. The baby stole your dingo flower? The baby. The dingo ate my baby. B-R-A-C-A-T-I-N-G-A flower. Whatever that is. Bracketinga. All I know is it's tasty. But I have since moved on to Flying Dog Doggy style. 01:06:03.680 --> 01:06:30.180 Yeah, do it. Do it. He's doing the ass slapping as well. All right. Cool. So next up, Jay wanted to talk about something. Well, I have to talk about two things, and I promise it won't take that long. But one is that we did not put this on here, but John brought up today via text that Peter Green died. And I want you to know I do know who the fuck Peter Green is. I'm a huge fan. While I was grabbing this, this is one of the live boots. 01:06:30.680 --> 01:06:32.640 So for those of you who don't know, 01:06:33.160 --> 01:06:35.060 Brita Green was the original guy from Fleetwood Mac. 01:06:35.340 --> 01:06:36.960 This was when Fleetwood Mac was fucking cool. 01:06:37.440 --> 01:06:39.780 It's not at all the Fleetwood Mac that you know. 01:06:40.100 --> 01:06:42.980 And I would point out to you that one of the reasons we need to talk about this is 01:06:43.350 --> 01:06:44.560 he wrote The Green Manalishi. 01:06:45.380 --> 01:06:46.480 With the three-pronged horn. 01:06:47.050 --> 01:06:48.580 Indeed, which by the way is about money. 01:06:48.770 --> 01:06:50.400 He took so much acid that he said, 01:06:50.480 --> 01:06:51.920 I don't ever want to get paid for music again. 01:06:52.110 --> 01:06:53.700 And then he wrote a song about it called Green Manalishi. 01:06:54.440 --> 01:06:56.040 And he also wrote a song called Oh Well, 01:06:56.240 --> 01:06:59.960 which is the song that led up to Black Dog by Zeppelin and stuff. 01:07:00.100 --> 01:07:29.880 Peter Green was important and his stuff was fucking heavy, some of it. And he's also an amazing guitar player. So he passed on. Rest in peace, Peter Green. Sort of helped Santana become who he was, too, as Black Magic Woman. And as a guitar player's hero, people fucking worship him. And left Fleetwood Mac well before you ever heard of them. But did some amazing things. And we lost Regis Philbin today, too. And we lost Regis. Now, secondly, I just wanted to personally kind of pimp a website that has become a quick, 01:07:30.080 --> 01:07:31.680 favorite of the podcast here. 01:07:32.260 --> 01:07:36.740 And it's Martin Popoff, who might be a, should be a familiar name to some of our listeners. 01:07:37.780 --> 01:07:39.820 He's as common as like Malcolm Dome. 01:07:39.920 --> 01:07:43.960 You know, he's this dude that's just written for rock magazines and metal magazines for years. 01:07:44.180 --> 01:07:45.140 He's a huge metal fan. 01:07:45.760 --> 01:07:46.840 And I think a good writer. 01:07:46.930 --> 01:07:48.760 He wrote a great book about Motorhead that I read. 01:07:48.760 --> 01:07:50.220 I just got his Merciful Fight book. 01:07:50.360 --> 01:07:51.120 That's fucking great. 01:07:51.840 --> 01:07:55.320 John, I know, has received Maiden early. 01:07:55.840 --> 01:07:58.360 I've got Early Maiden, Early Priest. 01:07:58.420 --> 01:08:28.400 I've got his latest one three series for Rush I got the first one for that I've got the early Sabbath his top 500 metal and hard rock songs I've got a ton of his stuff and I and I had them originally so I read the Motorhead one a while back I just am now reading the Merciful Fate and it's like I have had I known this one existed I would have had it I don't know when as soon as it came out but and by the way John I just while we were talking ordered the Deep Purple Alice Cooper Rainbow and Dio books so I'm pimping it for two reasons one 01:08:28.420 --> 01:08:57.660 is this great resource of books if you like to read, but also you like to read about metal bands, which I love to do. And he signs each book. He puts a little quip-y saying on it for you. Martin Popoff is a known figure. It's worth it to have a book signed by him. So I get nothing from this. I'm just getting joy from it. So I'm going to suggest people check out Martin Popoff's website. I think he's part of Banger TV now. Underwateraudition.com. And he also does stuff on Sea of Tranquility on YouTube all the time. 01:08:58.180 --> 01:09:28.140 You know, he actually quoted Sam Dunn in the Merciful Fight book. So I think they obviously do work very closely together now. But so there you go. Joke's on him. Metalheads don't read. We just worship Satan and do drugs. Hey, everything I read from him has been great. So I just, it's such a resource. I wish I, I don't know, I just didn't realize he had so much stuff on his website. So anyway, if you're a reader, a metal guy, you want to learn some stuff. I've already learned so much more about Merciful Fate in 30 pages of a, maybe 300 page book. 01:09:28.200 --> 01:09:57.680 that I knew and I'm a huge fan of theirs. So anyway, you get it. Right on. Check them out. Yeah. All right. So before we get into the news, we kind of wanted to do a little bit of a mid-year list post-mortem because if you happen to listen to that episode, you may have noticed some of us weren't at our best at the end and some things may have been left out, like specifically honorable mentions. 01:09:58.660 --> 01:10:27.040 I don't know if people want to give their honorable mentions that we did not get to do. Also, I thought I might just play a few clips of highlights that happened. But I mean, did people want to do their honorable mention lists real quick? Sure. I'll take a pass, but I'm happy to listen to anybody who's got this to say. I forgot mine. Yeah, that's... Marcus, did you have one? Hold on. It was your idea, man. 01:10:27.840 --> 01:10:57.660 Well, while you're looking, I will say this. I thought it was. It's fun. One of the fun things that's beginning to happen is that we're starting to already see some impact for our late year list, the end of the year list, because we've got some good promos and some, we're all finding some new records we like, so I don't. And getting crap for records that weren't our lists because they weren't released when they did the lists, John. Yeah, I assume that was that, was that on the Facebook page or was that something that happened privately? No, just real quick. I, I know Markisan and I both, 01:10:57.880 --> 01:11:27.740 the top nine image is the only image that looks good for doing that. It's become a popular thing on Instagram, but we both did that for the mid-year on our own respective Instagram pages. And out of the blue, some guy just commented and he said, what was it, George? No. No, Piran. No, Piran. And what was the other one? Confection or whatever. Convocation. Convocation. Yeah. And he says, not on your list. Sad, bro. 01:11:28.220 --> 01:11:57.800 I was just like convocation didn't go out and come out until July 3rd a full week after we did that episode yeah same thing with fear on I did respond back and I just said nothing sad about it it's just happened to be our combined favorites but by all means send us your favorite list so we know what you like too sad but he was just like sad bro and I'm like okay sorry hey John I'm gonna apologize I'm sorry I said 01:11:57.800 --> 01:12:27.780 I just said like sad dude. Bro makes me sound like more of a frat guy and I'm not like that. I'm really not like that John. I'm sorry. I followed I just followed it back to his page and it just says profile it says I like funeral doom metal. And I'm like I don't know why that's funny. I mean are you making fun of yourself? I love lamp. Yeah exactly. Yeah exactly. That must be something I'm 01:12:27.800 --> 01:12:57.740 in the metal world. But I just had a good laugh over it that he was disappointed with our list. It's like, well, give us your list. How's that sound? You want to be really disappointed? Go over and check out Decibel's list. Oh, just kidding, guys. Wait, that's the year end we're talking about. I know. I'm just kidding. So, Markson, did you have anything? Yeah, I'm just trying to look to see ones that we didn't really mention because I don't want to go through the whole list. 01:12:59.940 --> 01:13:27.440 I had Godthrim on my list. And I know that came up. I know that was on a couple people's lists. Valdrin, Effigy of Nightmares, which is a really good black metal album that came out. I don't think that one was mentioned. Let's see here. Caveira was like a Doom Sludge album I really liked. 01:13:27.460 --> 01:13:57.440 I don't think that one came up and then a fornicus sulfuric omnipotence which is a blasphemous storm of dirty black and death metal I almost sent that to you today when you were asking for stuff I was like I bet he knows this already and then so I'm glad I didn't because you were smacking me down left and we're like bitch I know that one bitch I know that one too yeah the rest of the ones I think we all mentioned them on there because our lists were pretty varied so all right 01:13:57.480 --> 01:14:27.120 that? I do. And this is, they're on my spreadsheet because I use the same spreadsheet for everything. So it's been on here the old time. And some of them, I have no fucking idea what they are, but Old Man Gloom, Seminar 8 and 9. I dug those. Horesque, I dug that. I cannot think of what the album is called. Witch Skull, which I believe Jay was on your list. You know, I have to tell you too, I didn't know about the Old Man Gloom and I was actually, I'm a huge fan of theirs. I have almost everything they've done on vinyl. That's a favorite. 01:14:27.160 --> 01:14:57.020 For those of you who don't know, that's Aaron Turner from ISIS, and the dude who died, Caleb... Oh, from Caven? Yes. No, it wasn't in Caven. Yeah, he was in Caven. Okay. And Old Man Gloom. Do not question me. All right. He also was in another band called Zazobra, which is also the title of one of the Old Man Gloom records. But anyway, I didn't know about that. I'll pick those up. And I assume Aaron Turner is on, though. Yes, yes. Ether Coven, Everything is Temporary Except Suffering. 01:14:57.880 --> 01:15:27.000 Worm, Colony Collapse, Cosmic Petrefaction, which is on numerous lists. A band called Witching, kind of some stoner metal out of Philly. A band called With the End in Mind, Barishi. Endless Forms Most Gruesome is the band name. I do not remember what the album is called. It has, oh gosh, somebody from the band that has the word ghost in their name, but not the band ghost is somebody in there. And then the Spark Crown. 01:15:27.160 --> 01:15:56.540 Wolves Among the Ashes. Nice. So some information and then not a lot of information. So you're welcome. All right. And John, you said you didn't have one. I got a couple and I'm not going to go into details. The White Stone and My Dying Bride are a couple of them. But I do have some I do want to bring up. I do want to do the Jay Awards when you're done. All right. Fair. Because there's not many. Okay. 01:15:57.160 --> 01:16:27.040 Will, did you have any? Yeah, I got a couple real quick. Local DC area band, C-6 Gladiar, came out with a LP, The Hangman. It's the, I don't know if you guys have seen these guys yet, but they traditionally did not have a vocalist and the lead sort of person plays a violin. John and I saw them at, how was that? Shadow Words. Shadow Words, yeah. Yeah. No, I, 01:16:27.160 --> 01:16:57.140 I love these guys. And in Atlas too. Yeah. They're some of the nicest guys. That violin player's been in a ton of bands all around the area for years. Yeah. Patrick. He's awesome. What area? They're from the DC area? Yeah. Disbelief. The Ground Collapses. Unbound Terror. Faith in Chaos. Lovatar Lightless. Of Human Bondage, which is Mike Classen's band up in Winnipeg. The Abyss of 01:16:58.820 --> 01:17:26.260 I did listen quite a bit to Volcano, The Eye in Hell, which George turned me on to. George turned me on. Wait, I have a soundbite for that. Are you going to play it? If I can fucking find it, I have a million sound effects on here now. Okay, well, I'll keep going. And then Auclith, Auclith, Gates Doorways and Endings, Scorn, 01:17:28.640 --> 01:17:30.080 And for good measure, 01:17:30.310 --> 01:17:32.400 I put on Testament Titans of creation, 01:17:33.310 --> 01:17:33.420 uh, 01:17:33.790 --> 01:17:35.360 just because Testament put out an album, 01:17:35.740 --> 01:17:37.120 but it was, 01:17:37.210 --> 01:17:37.340 uh, 01:17:39.160 --> 01:17:40.460 recognize that point. 01:17:40.840 --> 01:17:41.240 Yeah. 01:17:41.350 --> 01:17:41.840 So we're like, 01:17:41.980 --> 01:17:42.300 Hey, 01:17:42.960 --> 01:17:43.720 Testament put out an album. 01:17:46.000 --> 01:17:46.200 I mean, 01:17:46.260 --> 01:17:46.560 it's okay. 01:17:46.790 --> 01:17:47.300 I agree with you. 01:17:47.300 --> 01:17:47.480 I mean, 01:17:47.500 --> 01:17:47.920 it's worth, 01:17:48.200 --> 01:17:49.420 it's not like it's embarrassing or anything. 01:17:49.660 --> 01:17:49.920 Yeah. 01:17:50.140 --> 01:17:50.400 Yeah. 01:17:50.600 --> 01:17:50.740 It's, 01:17:50.860 --> 01:17:51.480 it's not, 01:17:52.300 --> 01:17:53.320 it's not the black album, 01:17:53.600 --> 01:17:56.460 but I think, 01:17:56.540 --> 01:18:25.600 I think someone needs to start writing lyrics for Chuck Billy. Yeah, he is in the weirds. Yeah. Jay, you got anything? Me? Yeah. No, just that I love you all very much. All right. Thank you. Love you too. Very honorable mention. Yes. I've got a fairly lengthy list. I mean, but I can run through it quickly. Surprisingly, though, a lot of them were not on anybody's list. Including yours. Yeah, including mine. 01:18:26.120 --> 01:18:27.260 A few of them were. 01:18:27.450 --> 01:18:31.300 Like the first one is the Funeral Leech album, Death Meditation. 01:18:31.540 --> 01:18:32.180 That was on some. 01:18:33.380 --> 01:18:35.280 Will just mentioned Volcano, Eye in Hell. 01:18:35.720 --> 01:18:38.900 It was a really good one that was on the list for a long time, got bumped. 01:18:39.700 --> 01:18:44.280 The Cosmic Putrefaction album, of course, has been mentioned a lot, so I don't need to go there. 01:18:44.480 --> 01:18:47.220 But Warbringers, Weapons of Tomorrow, nobody mentioned that one. 01:18:48.540 --> 01:18:54.180 I don't think anybody mentioned Warp Chamber, Implements of Excruciation, Impalement. 01:18:54.860 --> 01:19:23.840 I think I mentioned that on my EPs list. Which one? Warp Chamber. This was not an EP. You're muted. I got like three brain cells rubbed together at this point. Anyway. I mean, they'll also put Ash and Horton as EP and that came out in 2019. Exactly. Yeah, yeah. Fucking Jeff. I have to give Trevor props. The amount of ridiculous shit I give that guy for his sick, sucky ass clean singing. 01:19:24.080 --> 01:19:53.880 I gotta put his EP on there and it was from last year so you know. Yeah Jeff Gresham texted me yesterday and was like dude you know that was from last year right and like yeah we gave him some shit. Yeah yeah. I love you Trevor. And Jeff. Yeah shout out to Jeff. And Steph. It sounds like Jeff is gonna join us on the show in the future. I love Steph. Yeah yeah he. Who's Jeff? Steph is with Jeff. I'm kidding. Jeff and Steph I know. Yeah yesterday I heard from both Jeff and from Dan Clad. 01:19:55.300 --> 01:20:23.840 Dan Clanchar. Both of them are like, dude, we need to come back on. So, well, I mean, technically Jeff has only been on at the Decibel Fest. He hasn't been on an official episode. So we got to make that happen. We do want you on, Jeff. And also we'd love to have you back, Dan. You were a very fine guest. So consider that a yes, a loving yes. And just to embarrass Dan, because we were talking and he was, he was talking to me while he was sitting outside day drinking, apparently shirtless. And he said that he wants his episode. 01:20:23.920 --> 01:20:27.840 to be named day drinking and sunburned moobs. 01:20:29.540 --> 01:20:31.060 So that Markisan, 01:20:31.060 --> 01:20:31.440 you don't have, 01:20:31.540 --> 01:20:32.900 you're not going to have to name that one. 01:20:32.940 --> 01:20:33.720 We got one picked out. 01:20:39.980 --> 01:20:40.160 Anyway, 01:20:40.820 --> 01:20:43.060 impalement and their originally titled album, 01:20:43.220 --> 01:20:46.220 the impalement we're wolves. 01:20:46.420 --> 01:20:47.240 The dead are screaming. 01:20:47.280 --> 01:20:48.520 It was a really good fucking album. 01:20:49.700 --> 01:20:50.120 Black curse, 01:20:50.320 --> 01:20:50.780 endless wound. 01:20:50.820 --> 01:20:53.340 That one was mentioned in exoram, 01:20:53.360 --> 01:21:23.320 Moonlit Navigation. I don't think anybody mentioned that one. Or maybe they did. Did anybody? No. That's a pretty good album, actually. It is. The Ulthar album, Providence. A couple people mentioned that one. Beyond Death. No, it's D-E-T-H as in Megadeth, but it's Beyond Death, Accept Your Fate. It's kind of a thrashy album. Vampire Squid, Reinventing the Eel. I'll play on Reinventing the Steel. Some good, interesting tech stuff. Make Them Die Slowly, and the album 01:21:23.340 --> 01:21:53.260 is called Ferox. And I think it's one of the dudes from Manon the Throck. Proto Sequence, a blunt description of something obscene. Another incredibly awesome album that didn't make any lists. The Vader album. Who are yours, by the way? I know, I know. There's, you know, stuff. There's a band called Hyde, H-Y-D-E. It's a self-titled album. It's like this, and I think it's a one-man project. I think he's British. And it's kind of, Will should be listening to this, because this is, 01:21:53.340 --> 01:22:22.380 It's in the Stoner Doom vein, but it's not all muddy and stupid. It's not stupid, but it's very clean and heavy, yet rockish. It's good. It's really good. I really liked this album. I will forgive your microaggression against people who are stupid. People that listen to Stoner Doom are stupid. I'm sorry. Fuck all of you. Just kidding. What's called? Hyde? H-Y-D-E. It's on my band camp. I picked it up. 01:22:23.340 --> 01:22:52.440 I don't look at your bank. What's the name of the album? Also Hyde. H-Y-D-E. God damn it. It's like almost like alternative or something. Like it's between like Doom and like Alice in Chains or something. I don't know. And then an album that I cannot believe wasn't on anybody's list was the Aelstorm album. Curse of the Crystal Coconut. Fucking. No, somebody. That wasn't talked about right now. 01:22:53.360 --> 01:23:23.040 I'm out right before this episode. Pretty close. Yeah, that might be the problem. No, I think just nobody but me likes Ailstorm. I think I think Dan mentioned it when he was on the show. Actually, I think Dan was under that record. All right. I don't know. Just a couple more. Black Pestilence, Hail the Flesh. Awesome. Cool. Like black and roll kind of thing. Ara, A-R-A, Juris Prudence, another good death metal album. A band called Vampire. 01:23:23.360 --> 01:23:26.420 which I know Jay you've listened to them in the past and their new album Rex 01:23:27.540 --> 01:23:53.320 was also pretty cool I think it's only their second record and yeah yeah yeah this next one I may be I may be willing this one because I think this one actually came out after but I probably heard it before and that's void ceremony and tropic reflections continuum dimensional unravel I think that maybe came out like last week but I heard it the astral born I'm pretty sure Markisan mentioned 01:23:53.340 --> 01:24:23.300 That's not on my list. And Beast of Revelation, which you probably also mentioned. That's not on my list, but that actually would be an honorable mention. That is the ancient ritual of death, and that's McDonald's guy from Incantation. McDonald's guy? I'm just teasing. Was it McEntee? McEntee? Something? I say McEntee, but I could be wrong. You know, did you order your record from them? Did you order it on 01:24:25.060 --> 01:24:53.140 Yeah, I think I ordered from Nuclear Blast. I saw on their Facebook page today, they were signing them, so they must have been selling them from the Bandcamp. They're going to be on Newberry Comics. I don't know if you know Newberry Comics, but they do a lot of special edition records and signed stuff. So I don't think they're up. I checked Newberry Comics and I didn't see it. I think they're signing and then they're going to put them up. So I'm maybe buying another one. I might buy a CD or something. I used to get the signatures. I don't know. 01:24:53.340 --> 01:24:53.840 Yeah, yeah. 01:24:53.900 --> 01:24:54.100 Yeah, see. 01:24:54.840 --> 01:24:54.980 All right. 01:24:55.420 --> 01:24:56.700 They're doing CDs and vinyl. 01:24:57.340 --> 01:24:57.560 Cool. 01:24:58.740 --> 01:25:00.160 All right, John, give us some stats. 01:25:01.040 --> 01:25:01.340 All right. 01:25:01.880 --> 01:25:02.220 Not much. 01:25:02.260 --> 01:25:06.080 We'll just do the J Awards because it's more fun to do at the year end when there's 01:25:06.280 --> 01:25:10.820 more selections because, like Markisan said, this was a pretty varied year. 01:25:11.240 --> 01:25:13.380 I mean, the numbers just. 01:25:13.760 --> 01:25:15.000 Could be the most varied, John. 01:25:15.200 --> 01:25:16.100 I think it is. 01:25:16.340 --> 01:25:17.560 It's just, it's really spread out. 01:25:17.780 --> 01:25:19.500 So we'll just do the J Awards. 01:25:19.660 --> 01:25:21.380 And there's only three of those this time. 01:25:22.200 --> 01:25:23.680 So real quick, 01:25:24.270 --> 01:25:24.820 the first one, 01:25:24.920 --> 01:25:27.200 ulcerate stare into death and be still, 01:25:28.010 --> 01:25:29.460 I would get a J award for that. 01:25:29.460 --> 01:25:31.840 I was the only one who didn't have that on my list. 01:25:33.060 --> 01:25:33.780 Number one, 01:25:34.520 --> 01:25:34.800 sad, 01:25:35.080 --> 01:25:35.400 sad, 01:25:35.560 --> 01:25:35.660 bro. 01:25:36.380 --> 01:25:36.520 Yeah. 01:25:39.700 --> 01:25:40.460 Bro is back. 01:25:41.760 --> 01:25:42.020 John, 01:25:42.220 --> 01:25:42.300 John, 01:25:42.450 --> 01:25:42.920 did you actually, 01:25:43.210 --> 01:25:44.580 did you listen to it and not like, 01:25:44.580 --> 01:25:46.060 or just did not on your read? 01:25:46.080 --> 01:25:47.260 I listened to it a couple of times. 01:25:47.290 --> 01:25:47.540 It just, 01:25:48.080 --> 01:25:49.080 it wasn't clicking for me. 01:25:49.080 --> 01:25:49.500 I don't know. 01:25:49.560 --> 01:26:19.300 I mean, I'll go back to it. I don't know. You know, when I listened to it, it really sounded muddy. Yes, it does. Are you just fucking with me? Fucking George. No, I'm just being George. When I say you sound like fucking George, when you fuck George, it's muddy. I like how George completely believes that. It's true. Well, you know, Marcus, actually, I had a very serious conversation with John after this episode. I think that my hearing is, 01:26:19.560 --> 01:26:49.400 is so bad, and I'm not even joking, that my high frequencies are probably gone to the point where I'm, there's a lot of stuff that I call muddy that everybody's like, what are you talking about? It's because I don't have the high frequencies anymore. George is pretty much just getting the brown note all the time. Yeah. Yeah. Like, George, there is a point where we're all like, you're, you're fucking nuts. And when you say the production is bad and you're like, no, it's bad. I'm telling you, man, Ulcerate is extremely muddy for me, but the music is good. So, 01:26:51.440 --> 01:27:17.540 It was like your number four or something. It wasn't that bad. It was just enough to irritate me. A little on the helmet just irritates you. I hear it, George. They are pretty far back there in that one. George is complaining. It's like way beyond what he actually thinks. That's what's funny. His little bit was like, how many messages? Even worse was wake. 01:27:19.560 --> 01:27:49.540 I don't see the numbers but I mean it was like within my top 10 and ish who had awake as number one you mark us on yeah can you can you like do like a quick like back fist and hit George in your upper right square you just punched the shit out of me asshole go further the other way well I don't I don't have the same squares you do what he got him on my screen so it's all good 01:27:49.560 --> 01:27:49.960 All right. 01:27:49.960 --> 01:27:50.180 All right. 01:27:50.740 --> 01:27:51.860 Screw John into George. 01:27:52.280 --> 01:27:54.500 Somebody punch George in the balls. 01:27:54.860 --> 01:27:55.780 Hey, it's a great album. 01:27:56.220 --> 01:28:01.560 It's just not produced well to my obviously destroyed hearing. 01:28:02.200 --> 01:28:02.440 Yeah. 01:28:03.400 --> 01:28:09.540 So anytime someone on the podcast hears George say like, oh, but the production sucks and we all love it. 01:28:09.900 --> 01:28:13.740 You just know that he's old as fuck and his hearing sucks. 01:28:14.200 --> 01:28:43.720 I mean, Ian, do you recall me walking down the hallways in high school with my headphones on like full blast? So that I mean, people would tell me that they could hear me coming from around the corner with my headphones on. Yeah, that's why I have no hearing now. You didn't do yourself any favors. I know that. Nope. So basically, when George says it sounds like shit sounds muddy, it's all code for us to say this might actually sound awesome. He's sort of the angry metal guy of this podcast. I'm the curmudgeon. 01:28:43.820 --> 01:29:12.800 And I'm like, get off my lawn. You're making it sound like shit. What? He just named two albums that I think the production is really good on. So there you go. Let's get to the next Jay Award, by the way. Yeah. So the second one, Cryptic Shift, Visitations from Enceladus, Markisan the Enceladus Police, which is really funny. Even in your deepest moments of mid-year, you were still like, it's Enceladus. 01:29:14.780 --> 01:29:15.100 Enchiladas. 01:29:15.320 --> 01:29:15.800 Well, we were. 01:29:16.000 --> 01:29:17.720 John, I'm glad it got through to you. 01:29:17.920 --> 01:29:19.540 It got through when you're saying it properly. 01:29:19.780 --> 01:29:21.120 No, I was saying it properly. 01:29:21.200 --> 01:29:24.180 It's just when he said, I was saying it properly to myself beforehand. 01:29:24.680 --> 01:29:25.860 And then when you get to say it, you're like. 01:29:26.680 --> 01:29:27.160 Oh, yeah. 01:29:27.320 --> 01:29:27.900 It always happens. 01:29:27.920 --> 01:29:28.440 That's a tough one. 01:29:29.000 --> 01:29:32.360 Anyway, so Will got a J award for that. 01:29:33.020 --> 01:29:34.660 Well, I just noticed Will bought it recently. 01:29:34.800 --> 01:29:35.020 Yes. 01:29:35.560 --> 01:29:36.520 I did just buy it. 01:29:36.520 --> 01:29:36.980 And I think. 01:29:37.140 --> 01:29:37.660 He's repentant. 01:29:37.660 --> 01:30:07.540 I re-listened to the, I haven't listened to a full episode in months of our stuff, but I did re-listen to the mid-year shit show. And I was, I messaged you guys, like I'm crying, laughing, revisiting all this stuff that I saw and heard at the same time. But I went back and I listened to Cryptic Shift. 01:30:07.600 --> 01:30:37.280 Numerous times before the mid-year. And what I realized is that when you open up the album with a 26 or whatever minute wankery show. I don't hear any wankery. Because wankery to me is like dudes just soloing for 26. Wankery is like fish. Says the death metal guy. Thank you, Marcus. Says the death metal. Exactly. You don't know what wankery is. That's why. 01:30:37.580 --> 01:31:07.560 I don't, but what I noticed is that I was turned off and I've listened to this album so many times, but after someone like explained to me, oh, by the way, the first, the first song is whatever, like 45 minutes long. And then I got past that. And I actually just skipped like what, what George always told us, dude, skip the song too. And I did. I'm like, oh, this is 01:31:07.580 --> 01:31:13.420 I like that. 01:31:37.600 --> 01:32:07.560 George again here because I'm sure he thinks this album is average and sounds muddy but Plague Portraits of Mine George got the J Award for that yeah the production on that fucking blows oh my god it's great you are out of your fucking mind that's like one of the better death metal signing albums in a long time I thought that see clearly clearly I have hearing issues because to me that sounded like a very mundane average 01:32:08.040 --> 01:32:37.560 Produced Death Metal Album. Suggestion, E-N-T, immediately. Yes. Ear, nose, and throat. Yeah, well, you know, I actually, I just ordered something called... Hey, Dildo Head. I am a Dildo Head. Hey, Jay, you'll like this, just real quick. Martin Popoff was on Sea of Tranquility with Pete Pardo, and this subject came up about, he would say, man, I would listen to this album, and I would think this is the most amazing sounding album, but there's always that one guy that says, oh, this is the most amazing sounding album. 01:32:37.580 --> 01:33:03.860 This album sounds like shit. It's terrible. He said, it's just amazing how we all hear things differently all the time for every single album. Hey, George, I'm pretty sure that the plague was engineered and mastered by Damien Herring at Subterranean Studios. Whoever that is. He was one of the guitar players in Horrendous. I thought you were going to say that. And you know my beef with Horrendous, right? I don't know who that is. I thought I was going to say that. 01:33:07.580 --> 01:33:37.540 Your ear, your hearing sucks. It does. And you have Alzheimer's. What? So. Who are you? Exactly. What? What am I doing here? Those were the correct two questions. What do you guys do to my screen right now? I'm calling the police. These strange people on my computer. You literally said he's deaf and he has Alzheimer's and George's two comments were, what? Who are you? That was perfect, dude. Man, I'm really disappointed that I didn't get it. 01:33:37.600 --> 01:34:06.820 I thought I was in the running. I thought I had a really solid chance. My name is Jay. I deserve one of those. Yeah. I thought I was going to get it for Temple Void because I didn't have it on my list. You were the most unpatriotic. You had literally two albums selected from U.S. bands. Is that right? Yeah. And Will got the America Fuck Yeah Award this time. Let's see if I can even guess which ones they are because I'm looking at my... America! Fuck yeah! Suck my dick and suck on my balls. America! 01:34:08.120 --> 01:34:08.520 Okay. 01:34:10.040 --> 01:34:19.880 The most bizarre stat of the whole thing, and I think Markisan agrees, he and I literally only had three albums on our list together, which I thought for sure we'd have more than three. 01:34:20.100 --> 01:34:20.980 You prog nerds. 01:34:21.020 --> 01:34:23.220 What were they, John? Cryptic Shift for sure. 01:34:24.120 --> 01:34:24.520 Plague. 01:34:25.240 --> 01:34:26.160 Plague. And what else? 01:34:27.120 --> 01:34:28.700 I don't know. I have to go back and look. 01:34:28.880 --> 01:34:29.320 I didn't write them. 01:34:29.880 --> 01:34:32.340 Well, who got the award for Ulcerate? 01:34:33.880 --> 01:34:34.180 I did. 01:34:34.800 --> 01:34:35.640 Okay, so it was, yeah. 01:34:35.740 --> 01:35:05.720 because I didn't say it would be that one but I guess no they were all low albums outside of the cryptic shift so it was just it's strange year we all were spread out really wide this year so that's not a clip we normally are but musically we were spread out wide there's so many different albums so that is that is new I'm not when you go and look at our list it's just like it's basically 150 bands you know what I mean and not yeah I think we had 91 different albums this time out of 150 picks that's a lot that's a lot 01:35:06.780 --> 01:35:35.720 Well, I know half of mine weren't on other people's list. That's a lot. Well, that's going to get a little screwy in the second part of the year because so much. Yeah, we're going to be closer by the end of the year. Plus, we all learn from each other. I mean, some of the stuff from your guys list that I didn't know has already made it onto mine. I have four words. Sex of vile divinities. Yeah, yeah. You know, I was just talking to Barb yesterday about we were watching movies and I was like, you know, I wonder if they're going to 01:35:35.760 --> 01:36:05.680 do the Oscars this year? Because basically it'll be like, so these are the four movies for movie of the year. They're the four movies that came out. You know, it's like. You know what? But in a stark contrast to that, we are starting to get the COVID bonus now with music. I mean, there's no way that that Pig Destroyer thing would have come out without COVID because at least that's my take because those guys wait like four or five years. Yeah. And I'm telling you, there's some other stuff coming too. I'm starting to read, you know, like, 01:36:14.520 --> 01:36:18.500 I think a lot of labels were waiting to see what happens because out of nowhere 01:36:19.040 --> 01:36:23.120 I'm sure you guys saw this Skeletal Remains just announced an album's coming out in a couple months 01:36:23.320 --> 01:36:25.200 and I'm like I didn't even know they were working on something 01:36:25.760 --> 01:36:29.580 I think they were holding stuff back to see what was going to happen first 01:36:30.120 --> 01:36:33.560 I think they wanted to do shows and then promote it but now 01:36:33.560 --> 01:36:40.100 We don't know when these shows are ever going to come back. So now they're going to start dropping. Plus the guys who are spending their 01:36:40.440 --> 01:36:51.500 downtime just doing shit. I think that's probably how the last chemist thing came about, isn't it? Chemists just posted their life. We might have enough material for another album. Plus they just released that second EP. 01:36:53.560 --> 01:36:56.060 They work on the album just to come out next year. 01:36:58.260 --> 01:37:28.000 Yeah. All right. So I wanted to play a couple of clips that, you know, whenever I'm editing episodes, I always like take these little clips out and like message them to the guys to be like, how isn't that funny? Can we, can we take a break? Yeah. I got to pee like a mother going for an hour and 45 minutes. Yeah. Quick break. P break. Be right back. We're still further along than the mid year. Yeah. You're listening to the metal heads podcast. They're too sexy for this podcast. Too sexy. 01:37:28.220 --> 01:37:57.660 for this podcast too sexy by far. Do I really have to say this? Well, I got a question for you guys. Yeah. How do you, I'm just sitting here marveling at the variety. And like you said, 150 different bands or whatever on these lists. And I'm like, one thing that's, it's amazing because there's so much material being put out by musicians and bands and that sort of thing to get you guys going. But where are you finding this stuff? 01:37:59.140 --> 01:38:26.440 It's called obsessive compulsive disorder. Underground labels? Do you guys have relationships with underground labels? Yeah, so we get promos, which is why, and you're going to hear about some of this stuff shortly. I get probably like 20 albums a day from record labels. You know, everybody from metal. It's your dream. I know. That's how this all started. This all started in. 01:38:28.220 --> 01:38:58.200 This all started in 2003 as a scheme to get free music. Yeah. 90% shitty albums. Yeah. But I mean, we get everything from Metal Blade and Nuclear Blast down to, you know, the most obscure fucking labels that you've never heard of. But then in addition to that, we feed off each other. And if you got six guys all constantly looking at whatever websites they look at. Yeah. I mean, I mean, you know, even in high school, I was like buying all the magazines and I didn't read them for the 01:38:58.240 --> 01:39:28.180 I was looking through the ads for all the new albums coming. I still do that. I get Decibel Magazine. I get Decibel for the ads and the review section. That's about it. I get Penthouse for the Forum. And then, you know, I pour over Bandcamp looking for new music. And, you know, it really is. It's just an OCD thing. Yeah, because I'm like, I'm going, wow. Oh, my God. I told you this is the anchor part. 01:39:28.240 --> 01:39:29.660 I'm the anchor. 01:39:30.600 --> 01:39:58.340 But it's like a master class. I'm just sitting here listening going, oh my god, I'm taking notes. I'm writing down the author that you guys shared, Jay shared. I'm like already on his website. Oh, this is great. I love those books. I love reading those books. That's why I started the podcast because I was like, I clearly know a lot of bands that the average Slipknot fan, Avenged Sevenfold fan does not know about. 01:39:59.400 --> 01:40:28.360 And I, why don't I tell people about this? I mean, nobody wants to listen to any, nobody wants to listen to anything I have to say, but, but, you know, I know a lot of bands that other people don't. And if I can spread the word, that's what I wanted to do. No, that's awesome. That's great. Bandcamp's really good too, because you can follow different record labels and bands and they'll get notified. And then you can actually look at the list to see what's released. And I do a lot of newsletters too, you know, for record labels. 01:40:28.420 --> 01:40:58.400 So whenever they have an announcement. Yeah. Storm warning. Hurricane warning. Yeah. Take cover now. And to vamp. It could be a it's Hawaii. It could be a missile. A missile warning. I like the fact that Korea is coming. When we heard when when Microsoft walked away from the missile. He popped a can. He popped a can in the air. He popped a can. By the way. By the way Jay that could also be a tidal wave warning too. Yeah. Tsunami. Which would be which would be more likely than. He's on the 40 01:40:58.460 --> 01:41:28.400 Fourth Floor is good from tsunamis. Unless it's a really fucking big one. I mean, it should be fine. I think it's down to Category 1 or something. It's still got to hit Big Island. Hey, but Ian, we use a lot of sites. I know we all love going to Angry Metal Guy, even if we don't like to review. Just the comments alone are hilarious. And it just shows you titles you might not know about. Sometimes, like that one, we go Metal Storm. Both Metal Storm and Angry 01:41:28.440 --> 01:41:58.400 I read and I'm almost always like oh this guy hates this I'm gonna love this I mean we've talked about that before yeah so I do still get information from it it's just metal metal storm has the release calendar which is cool yeah I go to the metal storm release calendar and the metal encyclopedia also has a release calendar and every week I'm just like all right what's coming out this week yeah the metal encyclopedia one though is hard because it's a ton more than uh yeah because it's all the unreleased and demo stuff is over yeah it's more comprehensive it's more comprehensive yeah and we 01:41:58.400 --> 01:42:28.360 share so much stuff too. So there's that. Yeah. That's great. We have a Facebook messenger group. We talk on it all the time. We've got the podcast one and then we've got the podcast new music one that's set aside just for sending each other music. But we always like drink beers and get them all mixed up. Yeah. Just yeah. Whatever. I mean, don't gloss over the concept of just making up whatever you want. Yeah. The Matt, that's the Matt thing. Because if you believe it yourself, it can work. 01:42:29.240 --> 01:42:56.360 Some of those made up bands from Matt are really fucking good. It actually would be easier to find bands to listen to than it is to make them up, but that's how dedicated I am. Yeah, man. That is metal. Record a track and go, dude, check this out. And just sit back and wait. See what you guys think of it. No, no, no. You just have to come up with a name. He gives us a name. I feel like, dude, if you can't find it, you're not as metal as me. Why do all the work? 01:42:58.400 --> 01:43:28.380 I did want to play a couple of highlight clips as I think I was mentioning when I met Adina I will pick out little snippets of things and message it to the guys but guys is funny and so there are a few I wanted to play most of them are Markisan a couple of them are me but we do have one with Matt and one with Will so here's Matt are you guys saying length matters 01:43:28.420 --> 01:43:58.340 And Will, I mean, I don't know why he's going to do this now because he never does, but. I'll let you know if I come. And, okay, so then there's a couple of mine. This one, apropos of I don't even fucking know. That's how the banana pronounced it. George, do you know why I laughed about that? Do you know what the banana's from? No. Oh, my God. Remember the paperclip and the banana? 01:43:58.440 --> 01:44:28.340 Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's right. Bananas from. That's why I was. Yes, exactly. When you, when you yelled out, that's what the banana said. I was like, what is he looking at the banana for? I think he's been dead for like 20 years. I have no idea. And then I've actually played this second one. This is me slurring badly. I am a dildo head. I played that like 20 times in a row, but then slowed down. That's full speed. But then, you know, 01:44:28.420 --> 01:44:56.160 There's the J-Ward. There needs to be the Marcason Award for the most fucked up. I don't even know where to begin here. Let me look at these options. All right. So first of all, early on, he said, I was taking a shit today. Thanks for letting us know, buddy. But then later on, he's like, oh, man, I got a shit. Oh, man, I got a shit. 01:44:58.420 --> 01:45:24.900 Go Do. I did. I went. I went. And then that was literally the point when I was listening to this at work. I'm crying laughing now and I was crying laughing then because you literally you fell off your chair. Which is coming. I didn't fall off the chair at any point. I don't know. We have evidence in a moment that will prove that otherwise. Oh my God. 01:45:29.960 --> 01:45:55.700 It's on video. You were sitting in a chair and just like, boom. And disappeared. It's LaFleur. Picks 5 and 6 is where it happened. So when he was kind of drunk, he said, I fucking have to take a picture of this rainbow. That's the best. And then like two hours later when he's completely shit-faced, he's like, there's more rainbows over here. 01:45:58.400 --> 01:46:27.620 His voice is cracking. Yeah, the voice cracks the stem, which is great. But here is the... Wait, wait, wait. I just want to point out one thing. That Markisan absolutely fucked up beyond belief is still more coherent than I am after two beers, by the way. And he did rally like a champ. Oh, my God. Apparently taking a shit, like totally sobered him up. No, by the end... Because he came back from that shit completely sober. Yeah, you do. 01:46:28.400 --> 01:46:56.940 It's amazing. It's like an amazing talent. The funny thing is the whole time you guys are like, there's no way this guy's coming back. There's no way. He's just going to pass out. I want to go on the record though. Jay is the one person. I had your back the whole time. I also kept telling these guys, I don't know what you're so fucking worried about. He's fine. You know what I mean? He literally was like, you did almost Jay. But when I went to go take the shit, you're like, he's not coming back. Because I thought you went to the couch. 01:46:58.440 --> 01:47:01.620 You didn't believe in me for a moment, but then you came back. 01:47:01.720 --> 01:47:09.300 But, Markisan, if you can see the video, when you fell down, I'm like, his head's cut open, he's bleeding everywhere. 01:47:09.360 --> 01:47:10.240 Bleeding all over the place. 01:47:10.360 --> 01:47:16.160 Like, I am jumping into, like, Marine Corps, like, I need to save this guy mode. 01:47:16.240 --> 01:47:16.860 Man down! 01:47:17.040 --> 01:47:25.420 No, I, so what we need to do is, this is probably the worst idea ever, but we have to get all each other's wives phone numbers. 01:47:28.780 --> 01:47:57.480 Not for the reason you're thinking. It is the worst thing ever. Yeah. Because you hear us and we're like, is Tracy even home? I might trust a phone number to like Matt or John. I'm not giving it to you, Will. No, definitely. We don't give it to John. We need an alarm like an Amber Alert, but it needs to just be like a man down alert. I've fallen and I can't get up. I'll get a message. Like somebody's down. I'm telling you guys, like, it might have looked like I fell, but I'm not going to get up. 01:47:57.500 --> 01:48:26.400 I knew I see I've done this in my 20s and 30s. I did this a lot where I would get really drunk and then I was like, I'm just going to go take a nap. And I would nap in the middle of a party for like 10, 15 minutes and I'd get back up. It's like really well known for it. I hadn't done it in a long time because I've been really good at just moderation. But you guys are very, very bad influences. Yeah. So I had to fall back on that. So I'm sure it looked like I just fell, but I didn't fall. Okay. Well, here's. 01:48:28.700 --> 01:48:57.480 Here's the clip. You fucking fell down. It's okay. If you say you fell and you rally back, you look like more of a champ. Yeah, he's a champ. I don't know. It doesn't matter to me. I just remember. That's what I remember from it. I wouldn't trust your memory or mine. It's true. Your response was, we're on number five? I was like, what? I know. It was almost like, who are you guys? I would just chime in as the single most sober 01:48:57.500 --> 01:49:26.700 that particular podcast, especially, you fell down, dude. Trust me. It was like this. It was like, you wet, man. And there was a thump in the whole thing. It was great. I was the second most single. Second. I was pretty, I only had two beers the whole night. So this last clip is called Thunderfuck. And this is Markison going down. And drinking the Thunder Oak. It won't show up. 01:49:29.320 --> 01:49:56.840 I didn't go down on that one. Let's just play that again. Let's just play that again. And then you're drinking a thunder oak. I'm going to stand up for him on that one though because that was so early and he just knocked his microphone over. I remember that distinctly. But then he disappeared to pick it up so it appeared as if he, but I remember that. Fine. All right. Don't bail him out. I don't know. 01:49:57.380 --> 01:50:26.240 He's guilty on one count, but not on the other. No, I'd be embarrassed if not for the fact that I came back and finished the episode. You rallied big time. I wasn't even out that long, which is pretty crazy. You're not the one that... Well, you missed a pick, but that could be like a half an hour, so... That's a good point, John. You were like, John, I'll appreciate this. You were like Harry Carey in extra innings, you know what I mean? Like, he's just more and more drunk towards the end of the ballgame, and then... He just yells out of nowhere, hey! 01:50:26.900 --> 01:50:44.360 Who's that kid in the sombrero? Well, at least you weren't the one that, upon ending the episode, immediately vomited and passed out on the floor for two hours. Oh, yeah. No, no vomit for me. I haven't done that since college. Yeah. All right. Let's move on to the news. It's only been two hours. 01:50:57.800 --> 01:51:25.480 We're doing alright though. We're doing pretty good this time. I love it because I write a message before the cast like I might not be able to stay on too long. It's already two hours in. And I do like the fact that Jay's like we're two hours in. He's like oh we're not doing too bad. We've done nothing yet. I know but I'm comparing it to the last one. We'll get through the news quick. Yeah this is pretty quick stuff. Hey Marcus I'm guessing if something does happen on your end you'll get your power back and we'll still be on. 01:51:28.560 --> 01:51:53.840 You'll be able to rally and come right back on. Right? Good point. Yeah, I mean, it's not supposed to hit till tomorrow, so I don't really have much to do, so I'll probably be fine for the rest of the episode. Cool. Well, if you gotta stop and, like, have lunch or something tomorrow, we can wait. Take a shit. So. There's gonna be some rainbows this morning. I fucking have to take a picture of this rainbow. 01:51:56.860 --> 01:51:58.080 So our first news item, 01:51:59.900 --> 01:52:05.680 I'm jealous because England has said that they're going to allow socially distanced indoor 01:52:06.220 --> 01:52:10.560 concerts starting in August with a possible wider reopening in the fall. 01:52:12.320 --> 01:52:15.140 This is what happens in countries that don't fuck up the pandemic. 01:52:16.020 --> 01:52:17.120 What does that look like? 01:52:17.240 --> 01:52:18.360 Cause I saw the Germany one, 01:52:18.440 --> 01:52:21.040 the destruction one and those people were not fucking socially distanced. 01:52:21.050 --> 01:52:22.220 They all just stood right next to each other. 01:52:22.500 --> 01:52:23.380 How's this going to work? 01:52:23.520 --> 01:52:52.820 because the English Premier Soccer came back and they're not allowing anyone in the stadiums, no one near the stadiums, or telling everyone to go away, but they're going to allow concerts? I don't know. I think this thing's going to be a disaster for them. I'll buy that. I don't want it to be. Don't get me wrong. I'm basing it on other large events that they're doing right now. I realize a football game's going to be 50,000 people. I get that. I don't know how they're going to pull it off. Can I say a name? Always. Boris. 01:52:53.580 --> 01:53:23.420 Johnson. Yeah, you're right. Yeah, no doubt about that. I will say this, though, too. And this is just a reminder to you, me, and everybody who listens to this, in that we will get back to normal. We're going to get there. It's just, you know. Maybe not in our lifetime, but. Hey, there was a World Series every year since 1918, so we'll. No, there wasn't. Okay, fair enough. I get a message. 1994, come on, man. Okay, well, a little lockout, but still. There was a hockey Stanley. Oh, that's right. 01:53:23.500 --> 01:53:53.020 That got canceled too one year. Well, there's always been an all-star game. Oh, wait, no. Okay, fine. But you catch my meaning. Like I am more and more positive, no matter how many cases that we'll all be at a concert together in the next year in six months. I do wish, without going around, I wish people would realize, at least when it comes to the United States and all the comments I hear, we have close to 350 million people living in this country. If anyone thought it was going to be easy, I would just say, 01:53:53.480 --> 01:54:22.620 Maybe back off on that a little bit. It hasn't been perfect. No, we know that. But we've got the third most populous country in the world. I have friends who call me and they're like, what the fuck's? Well, that's not true. You guys are my friends, but people like my mom or something. And they'll ask me, what the fuck's going on in California? I'm like, there's 40 million of us, dude. Of course. Yeah. But I would also say, you know, don't be a whiny bitch. Wear a mask. Yeah, absolutely. Of course, dude. I'd be wearing one right now. 01:54:22.680 --> 01:54:52.620 If I was worried about getting specific. It doesn't help against internet viruses. I know. It might help against those other real viruses, though. I'm with John. I don't think this, if they open up, we'll see. We'll see how long that lasts. Yeah. There'll be some more outdoor stuff, though. I like the drive-up concert thing. I'd go do that. Yeah. You know what would be cool? Yeah. How about if they reopen drive-ins? They are. There's one opening. 01:54:52.700 --> 01:55:22.620 in DC. Was it RFK? For shows. And then like you're just in your car at the drive-in. Yeah, that would be awesome. It's actually a good idea. There have been some drive-in shows or drive-up shows. Yeah. And we want to go back to being kids, man. I missed drive-in so much. I bought an outdoor movie theater system for the kids in the neighborhood. It's awesome. We had one in Chicago and I went to it a few times to watch movies. Right now it's just, it's like, you know, it gets dark at nine o'clock. 01:55:22.700 --> 01:55:52.660 and at 9 o'clock at night, it's still 90 degrees and nobody wants to go outside. So we'll revisit this in September. Yep. When it's only 85. The B has been the shits. But we've got one here in Concord and Walnut Creek, John, and we go every couple of summers. We used to go to the one in Burlingame all the time. You know what's funny is that there are no metal shows here. So there's nothing for me to miss. You know what I mean? So actually, I feel a little bit better actually about being in Hawaii because 01:55:52.680 --> 01:56:22.280 And you're like, ha ha. If there was no pandemic, I'd be missing all these shows. Now it doesn't matter. Now I just have a beautiful scenery and. Rainbows. Rainbows. But I do want to say I am looking forward to the enslaved show that they're doing. I think it's next weekend. Hey, I just heard about Scott Ian made a post that must have showed up on my Facebook feed or something. And he said he had his, he was showing what he called his rig for the online pocket. 01:56:22.680 --> 01:56:52.120 So some kind of online. Yeah, I've been seeing Instagram posts about that. I next weekend. Do you know what? Is there a band list? Yeah, Valken Worldwide. They have a bunch of people playing. I haven't been paying super close attention, but I and to be honest, I don't fully understand what's going on. I thought they were just going to be playing footage from previous years, but it does sound like they're actually have performances. So yeah, that was my initial thought was, oh, they're just playing old stuff. But that's interesting. 01:56:52.220 --> 01:57:22.180 Well, here, I'll read it out for you, because here it is, and it's not that much. There's some weird things that aren't worth talking about that aren't even bands. Anthrax, Body Count, Doro, Trivium, Therapy. I'm not reading these because I like them. Brian Taylor's Diamond Head. What do you got against therapy? They're the only ones you know. And then it has, like, Alice Cooper and a bunch of... 01:57:22.200 --> 01:57:50.860 What the fuck this is? Yeah, I like the online stuff. Oh, there's three days to it. Okay, so I'll read you some more. Okay, well, I'll just read you the band names instead. Alice Cooper, Alcatraz, Anthrax, Blind Guardian. And now I am really truly just reading the ones that I care about. Foreigner, okay. So none of the ones that we're actually going to play this year. Yeah, that's what I was going to say. I haven't got to the M's yet. I'm crossing my fingers, George. No. Ross the Boss. 01:57:52.200 --> 01:57:52.300 Yeah. 01:57:53.440 --> 01:57:53.700 Sabaton. 01:57:55.100 --> 01:57:56.240 That's about the only thing that's worth spending. 01:57:56.260 --> 01:57:59.560 You know, I'm kind of hoping, this is an absolutely horrible thing to say, 01:58:00.160 --> 01:58:05.320 I'm kind of hoping that the whole reason there was a pandemic was so that I wouldn't go this year, 01:58:05.760 --> 01:58:10.000 so that next year, because Matt got his tickets, so that fucking Run and Wild will play, 01:58:10.200 --> 01:58:11.820 so I can finally fucking see them. 01:58:12.900 --> 01:58:14.320 That's the whole reason for the pandemic right there. 01:58:15.840 --> 01:58:17.460 They'll cancel the last second on you. 01:58:17.940 --> 01:58:18.340 We'll see. 01:58:18.720 --> 01:58:18.800 Yeah. 01:58:18.880 --> 01:58:21.660 But let me, or Americans aren't allowed to go anywhere. 01:58:22.040 --> 01:58:51.980 Yeah, not that Americans can't go anywhere. We can't arrive anywhere. Anyway, and then as I look through the schedule there, there's also archive footage of Maiden and stuff. So it's going to be like four days of live sets and old live sets. By the way, has anyone noticed how when all these live shows started, there was a couple of bands that were doing it all from individual homes. They're like, how are you going to sync that up? How is it going to work? Didn't they, what, more than a month? Now everyone's doing it and it's working. 01:58:52.720 --> 01:59:21.800 like beautifully for tons of bands. It's amazing how quickly everyone... But is it though? Is it possible, John, though, that they're each recording their own part? I believe that's the case. Because there's latency and lag and all that shit is just too fucking hard. Yeah, I guess. I mean, who knows? I mean, I don't know. I'm just... But so, to go back two seconds, did somebody just say there was another Enslaves show coming out? Because I didn't know about that one. Yeah, Enslaves doing two shows online and they had like a vote for which songs they're going to play. 01:59:22.040 --> 01:59:22.580 is pretty cool. 01:59:23.400 --> 01:59:26.240 Well, you should probably know Clutch is doing that exact same thing. 01:59:27.620 --> 01:59:29.560 Fan Club or Fan Vote Online. 01:59:30.900 --> 01:59:32.920 Somewhere James Lewis is celebrating. 01:59:33.720 --> 01:59:35.140 But you know what's funny about the fan votes? 01:59:35.600 --> 01:59:37.060 They still pick the songs, though. 01:59:37.910 --> 01:59:38.360 Oh, is that right? 01:59:38.760 --> 01:59:41.760 Yeah, because I think it's, what was it, Marcus, about 50 songs they picked? 01:59:41.970 --> 01:59:42.840 Or maybe 40 songs. 01:59:43.180 --> 01:59:43.840 Oh, right, right, right. 01:59:43.930 --> 01:59:45.280 You vote odd of the group of. 01:59:45.340 --> 01:59:48.980 Yeah, and basically because they're like saying, no, we're not playing that song. 01:59:49.160 --> 01:59:49.340 Fuck that. 01:59:49.520 --> 01:59:49.800 Take it off. 01:59:49.890 --> 01:59:51.920 I don't want some jackass picking that song. 01:59:51.940 --> 01:59:53.640 because we haven't played that song in 25 years. 01:59:53.900 --> 01:59:54.540 There's something like that. 01:59:54.960 --> 01:59:56.580 You know, I don't blame them for that, you know. 01:59:56.800 --> 01:59:57.340 No, me either. 01:59:57.580 --> 01:59:57.680 Yeah. 01:59:58.260 --> 02:00:00.880 Yeah, no, they picked which songs you can choose from. 02:00:01.280 --> 02:00:01.440 Yeah. 02:00:01.780 --> 02:00:06.820 And I, are they doing it full van, fan vote, Markisan, or are they going to incorporate 02:00:07.040 --> 02:00:08.600 also some ones that they want to play from the list? 02:00:08.640 --> 02:00:09.960 I couldn't remember from that. 02:00:10.180 --> 02:00:13.620 I think they said they were going to play like eight or something and then the rest were 02:00:13.700 --> 02:00:14.800 going to be what they wanted to do. 02:00:14.840 --> 02:00:14.940 Yeah. 02:00:14.980 --> 02:00:15.440 That's what I thought. 02:00:15.560 --> 02:00:15.660 Yeah. 02:00:15.980 --> 02:00:16.500 Which is fine. 02:00:16.760 --> 02:00:19.200 And I don't think they've revealed what those songs are yet. 02:00:19.280 --> 02:00:19.400 Yeah. 02:00:19.480 --> 02:00:20.380 So we'll see. 02:00:20.460 --> 02:00:50.280 The Age or the Fan Choice stuff. They haven't really revealed anything. They haven't revealed anything yet, no. Okay. No, so it's the 30th is the first show, and then I think that next one is an odd two weeks, three weeks? Yeah. Amorphous was supposed to do some big, huge thing three days in a row of three different periods of their career, and that got thwarted, and I think they're trying to do that online now. I could be wrong. Somebody probably knows out there that's a bigger Amorphous fan, 02:00:50.440 --> 02:01:20.060 But they were supposed to do like some Tales from the Thousand Lakes special and then something from the mid period and something from the new period. And I think they're trying to do it now online, but I don't know. Actually, I just looked at my calendar and I have three enslaved shows on here. So July 30th, August 20th and September 30th. Cool. Right on. Cool. So we spent a lot of time on that first news item. I didn't think we would. We've got. 02:01:20.080 --> 02:01:47.820 One, two, three, four, five more, but they're all kind of related to upcoming releases, so hopefully we can fly through these fairly quickly. First up, Exodus is working on a quote-unquote insane new music for a new album. I think it was Will that shared an Instagram photo from Gary Holt that shows a handwritten track descriptions of these. Do you want to talk about that? It was not me, but I did read it. 02:01:48.660 --> 02:02:17.440 I was J. Okay. You both look the same to me. I mean, some of them are pretty funny in there. I think I'm going to read them out loud. Why not? Let's do it. Why? Fuck not. Track one, eight minute insane album opener. Track two, riff fest, hard driver with crushing down pick sections. Track three, driving tempo rager. Track four, white snake on meth. Track five is a crunchy thumper. Track six will be drop tuned satanic glory. 02:02:18.380 --> 02:02:47.840 Track 7 is This Is Just Nuts. Track 8, Pummeling Crusher. Track 9, Doom. Track 10, Melodic Epic. Will doesn't want to listen to that one. And then Track 11 is Heavy As Fuck. How much downpicking can you one record have? And I'm sure those are actually the working titles of those songs. I love it. That's how you remember. Yeah, man. It's the downpicking one, man. Yeah, I think I do remember commenting that there's one track that I have no interest in. It was the Melodic one. It was the Melodic one. Number 9? Number 9. 02:02:50.780 --> 02:03:14.360 There was no Kill Kardashian song. Is that a bonus track? Yeah, so, but that's cool. And also, let's all remember that several, at least one member of Exodus is, you know, had the plague. So, that was Gary and maybe some of the others. But, but so glad to see that they're, you know, well enough to work on stuff. Yeah, I heard there's going to be a bonus track too. It's called I Gotta Take a Picture of This Rainbow. 02:03:18.380 --> 02:03:47.100 All right, next, we mentioned this, but I don't know if we mentioned it as actually part of the episode, but Pig Destroyer is releasing a new, I think we did, a new EP called The Octagonal Stairway on August 28th, and they have one track out from that so far called The Cavalry, and it's pretty bitchin'. Yeah, it's really good. It picks up where Headcage left off, you know, which I loved Headcage. It was on my list. 02:03:48.380 --> 02:03:50.560 Yeah, I was really disappointed to not be seeing 02:03:50.700 --> 02:03:52.840 Pig Destroyer at Decibel again this year. 02:03:53.740 --> 02:03:54.760 Especially since they were going to do 02:03:54.900 --> 02:03:55.560 Parler in the... 02:03:56.720 --> 02:03:58.480 Yeah, I mean, I haven't really liked 02:03:58.540 --> 02:04:00.740 Pig Destroyer that much, but I really liked Headcage 02:04:01.380 --> 02:04:02.180 in 2018. 02:04:02.520 --> 02:04:04.720 And this is the EP. It's got singles 02:04:05.060 --> 02:04:06.820 and like B-sides or something. It's got the Decibel 02:04:07.000 --> 02:04:09.000 Flexi track, which is the cavalry. 02:04:09.240 --> 02:04:11.000 And I hadn't heard that one, so it was... 02:04:11.340 --> 02:04:11.920 Man, it's a ripper. 02:04:12.540 --> 02:04:12.900 It's a ripper. 02:04:13.500 --> 02:04:15.160 It sounded like you just said it was a pants ripper. 02:04:16.520 --> 02:04:17.660 It was, definitely. 02:04:17.800 --> 02:04:47.780 And they made a nice fan created video too for that single. And I love it that some of these guys are doing it right. That was pretty cool. The Pig Destroyer video is pretty cool. I like too that they're doing these bands are doing these intermediary EPs before albums where they have the decibel singles and then other things like Chemist has done a couple. So I kind of dig that. Me too. Me too. So Esan is releasing yet another EP on September 11th 02:04:47.820 --> 02:05:17.780 called "Pharos." And the first song from that one is called "Spectre at the Feast," which is a fucking brutally metal song title that's not that heavy. But, and now John asked, you know, when that was posted, John was like, he said something to me about like, did you listen to this? Like, you know, the question was clearly slanted at me hating this. But-- - It's not a bad song. - It's just-- 02:05:17.800 --> 02:05:47.680 It's a well-written song. This is his poppy or more streamlined EP. He was putting out two EPs. This is not my wheelhouse right now. This is not where I choose to vent my rage. But in terms of musical quality, this is a very good song. Yeah. If anything improves, Eson can write almost anything he wants to write if he chooses to write it. Yep. I want an Eson-Devin album. 02:05:48.380 --> 02:06:17.740 That would be insane. He is that level of talent. He really is. He's big into that synthy 80 sound. I wouldn't say that's what this is, but he's really big on writing kind of more structured. I don't want to call them pop songs, but they're more direct like that. Next up, Napalm Death is going to be releasing their new album, Throws of Joy in the Jaws of Defeatism on September 18th. 02:06:18.060 --> 02:06:47.720 And they have a new song out called Backlash, Just Because. That's a fucking rager too. It's awesome. I must have listened to that. Honestly, God, when we were talking about it on the text, I sat and listened to it like eight times in a row. I was at work. It has a really good groove to it. And that breakdown that comes like two minutes in is killer, man. It's so awesome. I'm not a Napalm Death fan. Is this actually a decent length song? Meaning like, is it more than three minutes? 02:06:47.800 --> 02:07:17.420 It's over three minutes. Yeah, I mean, they're grindcore, but they're not like, I mean, other than you suffer, they're not like three second, 30 second songs usually. As they've gone on, they've moved a little past that, haven't they? Yeah. Yeah, that's what I thought. Okay. But I don't, but I do think you might have just been misled. I think it's two minutes and changed. I mean, look at that. Is it? You know, when you said that, I was going to say, what, did you take like eight minutes out of your day or something? I mean, because I don't, I'm just poking fun at the genre in general. Okay, not that. No, no, no. 02:07:18.860 --> 02:07:47.460 You know, I've been... It's 256, so it's right on the... Oh, so it's... All right, that's a decent length for that kind of stuff. Radio-friendly. So, as part of... In under three. I think you'll like it, John. I think you should go check it out. I think you'll be like, oh, yes. I have absolutely nothing against those guys. Everything I've heard, I've liked. I've just never... It's just everyone has a number of bands that they like, but they just never get anything or spend much time with them. Well, it's funny. I think it's known. I've talked about it, and I took the 02:07:47.500 --> 02:08:17.420 a deep dive on them this year. As did I. But partially because they were going to do what they were going to do at the decibel. So I was like, I'm going to get ready for this. And now I'm a fucking fanatic, dude. I fucking, every, every, especially like the last maybe six or seven records up to and including this new one, they're all kind of of a type and they're so fucking good. They're like, actually they're kind of head cagey. I mean, I do realize their history and I know that they have like the biggest all-star cast ever for their earliest release. I mean, 02:08:17.480 --> 02:08:47.440 I don't know of any band that had that many big names that went on to do other stuff. I wouldn't say I'm a huge Napalm Death fan, but they're growing on me as the years go on. I actually ordered the album because the Decibel Magazine is putting out 180 gram color vinyl. You sent the last one. I think Will sent the one before that when they put those out. I love the new song, so I'm like, I'm going to get in on this. I hope they perform some of the new stuff at Decibel Next. 02:08:47.500 --> 02:08:51.200 I know they're doing two albums in their entirety but that won't take very long. 02:08:51.270 --> 02:08:52.500 Well they're playing for an hour right? 02:08:52.980 --> 02:08:53.160 Yeah. 02:08:56.740 --> 02:08:57.320 Well they will. 02:08:57.480 --> 02:08:58.700 We'll catalog in an hour right? 02:08:58.920 --> 02:09:09.020 I think they'll play some other stuff too but also you know I fucked up and I ordered the pre-order from Century Media or something and then the Decibel one got announced and I was like god man. 02:09:09.660 --> 02:09:10.840 That's always annoying though. 02:09:10.850 --> 02:09:11.940 They should put everything out at once. 02:09:12.260 --> 02:09:14.160 They should dude but I did order the Decibel. 02:09:14.160 --> 02:09:14.640 Century Media man. 02:09:15.400 --> 02:09:19.260 I did order the and Will and I were talking about this recently I know he ordered them too we ordered the 02:09:19.580 --> 02:09:45.360 decibel reissues which were Apex Predator utilitarian the last four you know I was wondering the other day Will do you like Napalm Death because I don't feel like you ever talk about them but it seems like something you would like no I do I like like Jay just said like I ordered all the ones every single record that um that decibel reissues yeah I ordered every single one all right 02:09:45.360 --> 02:10:15.060 I do. Yeah. It's just, you're cool. You're cool. Yeah. Don't talk about a lot. Like, do I need to talk about carcass? No, no, but you do. You do definitely talk about them. Drop them like J drops the underwater audio every few minutes. Just drop a band name that you, you know, you think that you haven't mentioned in a while. You want to get paid, don't you? Come on. So while we're still talking about napalm death, I wanted to mention, um, 02:10:16.320 --> 02:10:44.860 As part of my quarantine therapy, I have been going through and just relentlessly, any spare moment I have that I'm not podcasting, working or sleeping or working out, I'm working on cover songs. I picked up a drum set and I've been playing the drums and the bass and the guitars. Nice. That's cool. Yeah, I got it back in November. And I started taking lessons, like online lessons with it. And I was like, you know what? I'm just going to start playing songs. Because like, as I was telling Ian earlier, 02:10:45.040 --> 02:11:14.960 80% of the world's songs use the same exact fucking drumbeat. You know, you ride the hi-hat and it's kick, hat, snare, hat, and repeat. What music are you listening to? Everything from the 70s, 80s, and 90s. Convocation? I mean, can we not hear these? Anyway, anyway, the point being... Former drummer, I can tell you that's not necessarily true. No, I'm exaggerating, but a lot of the stuff that I've been listening to, I'm like, wow, okay, 02:11:15.040 --> 02:11:42.920 Okay, it's this again. Okay. But anyway, the point being, I've got like 37 songs in progress that I've been working on. And I just go through stuff. And as I was listening to Napalm Death the other day, I was like, I wonder what kind of like sheet music I can find on that. And there's sheet music for You Suffer. And I'm like, dude, I gotta do You Suffer. Because it's just like, that's the whole song. It's like four notes. 02:11:43.700 --> 02:12:12.460 Yeah, but it's, um, it must, it is kind of a weird sounding chord. I don't know what it is. Did you? I, I, I don't know if I saved it, but it's literally like four notes and a, so I'm, I'm totally doing that. I just hope the productions get on it. Oh, it will be a little money. It fucking will be. I didn't understand a word. He just said, doesn't chopping ball do that. Isn't that rotten beef? Maybe. I think from that, it's like literally just the two words, rotten beef. 02:12:13.700 --> 02:12:43.620 Oh, yeah. I don't know. I thought they did that. I thought Keith did that on the album. Yeah. I've got drums down for almost all of these, like, guitars down for about half of them. I just did my first vocal track today for ZZ Top's Sharp Dressed Man. Nice. Did you try to synthesize or two? No, that... No. Anything that's synth I use, I actually use synths for. There is a synth track on that. 02:12:45.340 --> 02:12:47.480 I'm surprised you didn't do pearl necklace George 02:12:50.239 --> 02:12:52.060 okay Jay's the only one who got that one 02:12:54.940 --> 02:12:59.600 I got it I was just thinking that who's gonna give George a pearl necklace 02:13:00.720 --> 02:13:01.660 any of you 02:13:05.640 --> 02:13:09.460 you know it's funny John that's one of those songs that I probably heard 10 times 02:13:10.380 --> 02:13:11.840 before I was like wait what 02:13:13.160 --> 02:13:40.620 That's a really nice guy. Jeez. That's a nice gift. I mean, it actually has the lyric in it. That kind of jewelry she's talking about really doesn't cost that much. And then that face that you make, you're like, oh. It really cut off. Wow. That's pretty specific. Anyway, moving on. We have one last news item. 02:13:40.740 --> 02:14:09.000 And that is another upcoming album from the band Necrophobic. Swedish Black Death Veterans. They will be releasing their new album Dawn of the Damned on October 9th. They have a new song out called Mirror Black. I watched the video for this. And the singer, I just kind of laughed because the singer to me looks like the love child of Thomas Gabriel Fisher and nemesis Divina era Sater, possibly birthed by Dora. 02:14:10.760 --> 02:14:40.460 Okay. If you watch the video, you'll know what I'm talking about. But it's cool. Who here has seen Doro live? I'm just curious. I saw it. Me too. Yeah. You guys saw her at Valken, right? Yeah, but right here, I saw her on Triumph of Agony and Warlock Tour opening for, I believe, Megadeth. I'm not like a fan, but man, does she have a killer show. She just has so much energy. Yeah. 02:14:42.380 --> 02:15:10.700 I got tired watching her. She's older than me. Huge trucks of land. Anywho, all right. So there you go. There's the news. Let's go. New releases. I like how we didn't even talk about the necrophobic. Well, oh, well, did you have anything to say about it? 02:15:10.740 --> 02:15:40.660 I was fine. I listened to the single. It was fine. All right. So the first new release is one that should have been on John's list, but apparently wasn't. All of our lists. Should have been on all of our lists. And that is the combined list. That is the convocation album, Ashes Coalice. It's their second album. They're a Finnish funeral death doom band. Isn't one of the dudes from Dark Buddha Rising, I think? Oh, maybe. I didn't. 02:15:40.740 --> 02:16:10.720 I think it is which kind of threw me off because like why haven't I listened to this yet I kind of dig dark Buddha rising so it's kind of cool yeah it's a little slow but you know don't you convocation yeah didn't you you sent us I think something literally a week before we started talking about this that you bought the first album I thought yeah no it's great yeah and I told Will about it too because he likes the death doom so much yeah we have I have convocation in the in my iTunes which means I got it 02:16:10.920 --> 02:16:40.660 on the first or the new one? The Mega. No, the Mega. No, which album? The first one or the latest? Well, the latest. Okay. This one's great. I mean, it's great. I think it's the best Death Doom album so far this year. I don't think there's anything close to it, to be honest with you, in that category. So, yeah, I'm really digging it. And I was talking it up, bought it. And then I think Angry Metal Guy did a review of it, too, and gave it, like, 02:16:40.740 --> 02:17:10.019 Wait, did they? I think it was just one single review. Because they just did a double review for something. No, I love it. That album's great, man. It's got a great atmosphere on it. It's just fantastic. It'll probably, it's already on my list, actually, right now. So next up, I'll be surprised if anybody listened to this one, but the new Enseferum album, Thalassic, it's another Finnish band, our folk metal band. What? Thalassid, yeah, it's their eighth album. What's this album called Thalassid? 02:17:12.199 --> 02:17:40.700 Our friend and listener Josh Landau, I know he's a Nets of Fearum fan, but I tried listening to this dude, and this is like Children of Bodom did a Manowar album or a Viking album or something. I kind of liked it, actually. I did, too. I listened to it. I have a spot for folk metal. I don't know what it is. I listened to it for two reasons. One, I know Sergei probably likes it, and so I was like, I'll check it out on his. And also a really good 02:17:40.740 --> 02:17:42.660 review of it. I'm not crazy about it. 02:17:42.830 --> 02:17:43.580 Sergey is who? 02:17:45.260 --> 02:17:46.679 Base player of Catholic Society. 02:17:46.880 --> 02:17:46.940 Right. 02:17:47.120 --> 02:17:47.559 Who are they? 02:17:48.299 --> 02:17:49.860 Close personal friend of mine. 02:17:50.320 --> 02:17:50.980 Kim Birgir? 02:17:52.299 --> 02:17:57.260 He obviously doesn't listen to the podcast anymore because I haven't heard a thing from him in like two years. 02:17:57.960 --> 02:17:58.240 No. 02:17:58.650 --> 02:18:01.400 You remember when I told King Diamond, God bless you? 02:18:01.860 --> 02:18:02.139 Yeah. 02:18:02.660 --> 02:18:03.700 I told him a story. 02:18:04.160 --> 02:18:05.580 He comes up to me every once in a while. 02:18:05.679 --> 02:18:07.940 He's like, hey, which one of you dumb motherfuckers said this or whatever. 02:18:09.280 --> 02:18:09.880 Well, Sergey. 02:18:10.139 --> 02:18:40.040 I haven't heard from you in a long time. Cheers, buddy. Yeah, he's still out there. It's like the audio version of Pirates of the Caribbean. Really. It's like it's got that very Il Stormish quality to it. But I'm surprised. It's good. And yeah, but they're not goofy. Like Il Storm is purposely goofy. Yeah. There's a song called Rum Women and Victory. Yeah, that's that's where I checked out. Trust me, which is not a bad thing, but I just didn't dig it. I'm not defending N. Saffir. 02:18:40.120 --> 02:19:09.120 I don't like them. I've seen Aelstorm and when I saw them it had a big rubber duck that was floating around that they blew up on the stage and shot out to everybody. Yeah, no, I agree, John. They're like a cartoon. I'm just curious because George knows. Watch your criticism of Paltry, okay, John? Actually, the duck was the best part of that show because I fucking hate Aelstorm. I can't stand him. It's power metal. Fuck that. Dude, Drink is one of the songs I'm working on. 02:19:09.760 --> 02:19:39.740 Says the guy who goes to Prague. Yeah, I don't like the power bands. Ask George. He'll tell you. The power bands, I'm like, I'm out of here. I'm going. He's like, Falconer, fuck these guys. I did watch three songs. I did want to see them because I know how popular they are amongst the power fans. No, Marcus, and the reason I'm asking is because the singer who used to be with Ensofirim split off with a few members and they formed Seller Darling. Yeah, that's a good band. Seller Darling, actually. And they're more of a, they're folky, but they're a little 02:19:39.800 --> 02:20:09.340 Fragier and a little more metal than Ensofiram. So that's why I was asking. Because I like Seller Darlin. I saw them. They were awesome live. Did that album come out this year? No. Last year. The second one last year and then two years before. That was like I think the same year as the one from Trevor. I think they were an honorable mention. Not this year. It's a good album. That's why I was asking because I think what Seller Darlin's doing, which is a weird name, they're doing way better than what Ensofiram's doing. 02:20:09.780 --> 02:20:39.700 Yeah. Which she used to be part of. And the other two guys were part of also. So. All right. Matt, you liked Ensofarium, this album. What did you think of it? I thought it was all right. I mean, you know, like I say, I have like a soft spot for folk metal, if you will. I don't know what it is. I mean, it's most of the time it's probably not something that's going to show up on my list. It's called a taint. Yeah, exactly. Capital T. No, I believe it's a fontanelle, Will, please. Fontanelle. 02:20:40.280 --> 02:21:09.720 You know what that is? That's the little saucepan on the baby's head. You know what I mean? Yes, I know. This little fontanelle. Is that a capital T first or second T? I have the most biological babies here. I know what that is. Yes, well, you will. I hope you knew what it was because you had to be careful for it. I started watching this show called Ray Donovan. Have you guys seen it? I've watched every episode. I've seen everything. All right, don't tell me anything because I just am in the first season. Oh, you just started? I just started, yeah. But there's a point where a guy has the baby and he's like, 02:21:09.780 --> 02:21:39.400 It's so dead. Markisan two words that you just need to remember as you watch. Mickey Donovan. Yeah. He's crazy. He's the biggest piece of shit on planet Earth. John Voight. He is so good. It's his best role he's ever done. He's like 80 years old. It's his best role ever. Wow. Yeah. I'm like, well, Tracy and I are both watching. We're like seven episodes in first season. Yeah. We're all, we're all, we, 02:21:39.760 --> 02:21:40.540 Big fans. 02:21:41.230 --> 02:21:41.360 Cool. 02:21:41.940 --> 02:21:43.020 So we're bringing that up. 02:21:43.080 --> 02:21:44.720 I'm mired in Boardwalk Empire, by the way. 02:21:44.720 --> 02:21:45.120 I'd never watched. 02:21:45.260 --> 02:21:45.840 That's good. 02:21:46.040 --> 02:21:46.600 That's good. 02:21:47.360 --> 02:21:48.140 Stevie semi man. 02:21:48.880 --> 02:21:49.900 I've been watching it every night. 02:21:50.020 --> 02:21:50.660 I'm on season three. 02:21:50.800 --> 02:21:51.040 Okay. 02:21:51.270 --> 02:21:54.980 If you're a Steve Buscemi fan, are you still holding out for him to do the John Waters 02:21:55.300 --> 02:21:55.500 biopic? 02:21:56.979 --> 02:21:58.100 Yeah, he does. 02:21:58.320 --> 02:21:58.380 Wow. 02:21:58.760 --> 02:21:59.460 Yeah, he does. 02:21:59.680 --> 02:22:00.660 I mean, he could. 02:22:01.900 --> 02:22:03.460 The older he gets, the more he looks like. 02:22:03.700 --> 02:22:08.000 If you're a Steve Buscemi fan, and I can't remember if I've mentioned this on a previous 02:22:09.301 --> 02:22:12.200 He does this thing with Jeffrey 02:22:12.480 --> 02:22:14.100 Tamberg where they do 02:22:14.560 --> 02:22:16.220 it's about Stalin. Stalin 02:22:16.440 --> 02:22:18.360 dies. Oh dude it's a fucking great 02:22:18.410 --> 02:22:20.340 movie. It's called The Death of Stalin. Yeah Death of 02:22:20.460 --> 02:22:20.900 Stalin. Yeah. 02:22:21.960 --> 02:22:24.240 It is unbelievably 02:22:24.860 --> 02:22:25.720 awesome and as 02:22:26.300 --> 02:22:28.480 a person who has 02:22:28.840 --> 02:22:29.520 studied deeply 02:22:30.270 --> 02:22:31.820 I think he plays Khrushchev doesn't he? 02:22:33.380 --> 02:22:34.880 No he's not Khrushchev 02:22:35.000 --> 02:22:36.500 he's somebody different 02:22:36.500 --> 02:23:06.440 He's important. He's not Nikita. Because Nikita Khrushchev comes in at the very, very end, I think. Anyway, the point being is like all throughout undergrad and grad school, I studied Russian history and blah, blah, blah, blah. But Buscemi's in it and it's absolutely fucking phenomenal. I gotta say that. He does indeed play Khrushchev. I just looked it up. Is it Khrushchev? That's one of the best dark comedies I've seen. 02:23:06.520 --> 02:23:35.460 in five years. If anybody hasn't seen it, like you here on the pod, you guys need to watch The Death of Stops. Shemmy's awesome. Favorite line. Good. Well, Michael Palin's in it. It's Jeffrey Tambor's in it. Who said that? Is that what you brought up? Yeah, I brought Tambor and Shemmy. And a few other guys that once you hear, once you see the whole cast, be like, I'm totally watching this. And it's fucking great. It's funny. Every time I see his face, I just want to yell, Donnie, shut the fuck up. This is above your pay grade. Every time. 02:23:36.500 --> 02:24:06.100 I have to add the comment too about him looking like John Waters. One of my favorite lines, and it's a very short line, but it was one of my favorite lines in Boardwalk Empire so far is when he's arguing with his wife about is there a God? And he says, look, if there is a God, would you give me a mug like this? That's a good deal. I like it. He's a stand-up guy too on top of it. He doesn't know anything about his history. Did you see King of Staten Island? Yeah. He volunteered after 9-11. 02:24:06.180 --> 02:24:36.060 He used to be a fireman. He volunteered to go back. Yeah. And he still, I think, makes... He still goes up there. Yeah. All right. Our third new release. I don't know how to pronounce this one. Maybe Mark is on, can help me out here. I say gyrea. Gyrea. That makes sense. G-A-E-R-E-A. It's like not diarrhea, but gyrea. Yeah, J, who just walked out, he pronounces it gonorrhea. 02:24:37.560 --> 02:24:37.960 Anyway. 02:24:38.180 --> 02:24:39.120 I don't know how it's pronounced. 02:24:39.380 --> 02:24:40.200 The album. 02:24:40.760 --> 02:24:42.200 How do you pronounce the album name? 02:24:42.560 --> 02:24:42.860 Limbo. 02:24:43.359 --> 02:24:44.180 There you go. 02:24:44.300 --> 02:24:44.860 That's all I got to do. 02:24:44.980 --> 02:24:46.240 This is their second album. 02:24:46.440 --> 02:24:48.180 They're a Portuguese black metal band. 02:24:49.160 --> 02:24:50.880 Their first album caused quite a stir. 02:24:52.320 --> 02:24:54.320 I remember I picked it up. 02:24:54.380 --> 02:24:54.980 I liked it a lot. 02:24:54.980 --> 02:24:55.760 I bought the first one. 02:24:56.480 --> 02:24:56.620 Yeah. 02:24:56.820 --> 02:24:59.260 The Unsettling Whispers was the one before this. 02:24:59.260 --> 02:25:00.000 That was really good. 02:25:00.160 --> 02:25:00.300 Yeah. 02:25:00.360 --> 02:25:01.140 And this one's good too. 02:25:02.400 --> 02:25:02.520 Yeah. 02:25:02.620 --> 02:25:06.160 Actually, that one would have made my top 40 02:25:06.180 --> 02:25:36.100 did a top 40 that year because I think it's the first time that I did it with you guys. It was good. This fall. Decibel last year was the first time he did it with us. No, he did. No, I did. You missed the dirty joke, dude. Missed the dirty joke. Come on. We can't be all dicks and dicks every time. Dicks and butts. Markisan does not like dick jokes if you guys have. Right, right. Sorry. Yeah, I know. He like saying dicks. 02:25:36.180 --> 02:26:04.580 Well, let's get to this next one while Jay's gone. Yeah. Well, by the way, I like the gonorrhea album Limbo a lot. That's great. Wow. Nice. So next up, we have Chemists while Jay's away. And there are more songs about death volume one. This is their third EP. They cover the Misfits song Skulls quite differently than I would have expected because, you know, Chemists, it's not going to be fast. 02:26:05.600 --> 02:26:35.540 It was very cool. And there's also an acoustic version of A Conversation with Death, which was from their split with Spirit Adrift. I have to say, that's one of my favorite Kama songs. Conversation with Death? Yeah, the original or the one that they put on, Doom Heavy Metal. It's like, God, it's such a good song. Yeah, it is. Well, I actually, they performed this at the Slay at Home livestream festival, which benefited communities struggling in the pandemic. 02:26:35.600 --> 02:27:05.580 So I actually watched them perform this online and then this album came out. So it's pretty good. I think that they did this. We were talking about it earlier. I think that they were all in different places and then perform the song. And I don't know if they were doing it together or they put all that like we're talking before if they cut it together. I don't I'm not really sure. Maybe we actually know. So maybe we can ask him. Yeah. Jay's back. Let's move on before he hears. Okay. So. Jay's back. So. Yeah. Our last new 02:27:08.279 --> 02:27:10.660 - Actually before you get to that new release can I ask Will a question really quick? 02:27:11.080 --> 02:27:13.060 - No. - And it's not on this question. Well I'm going to. 02:27:13.300 --> 02:27:15.300 - Okay. - No, I know you're just fucking on me. 02:27:15.680 --> 02:27:17.440 Is that really the way that unraveled by the way? 02:27:17.640 --> 02:27:19.060 Will if you studied that, is that really the way 02:27:19.200 --> 02:27:21.040 Death of Stalin unraveled that whole period? 02:27:22.140 --> 02:27:23.500 Is that like historically accurate? 02:27:24.400 --> 02:27:25.440 - Wasn't he poisoned? - I don't. 02:27:26.680 --> 02:27:28.080 - Well I don't know, no, no, no, no. 02:27:28.340 --> 02:27:29.860 - No, his death is a pretty small part in the movie. 02:27:30.060 --> 02:27:32.040 It's more about the exchange of power afterwards. 02:27:32.939 --> 02:27:34.260 - I'm not 100% sure. 02:27:35.020 --> 02:28:05.000 It's been a while since I studied all that stuff, but I was deep. I mean, ridiculously deep studying Russian language, studying all this stuff in undergrad and grad school. I'm not 100% sure, but I do know that there was like any kind of... I don't want to go off... I'll talk about it later, but I want to go off too much of a tangent. But the basis is that the history of human beings 02:28:05.040 --> 02:28:34.960 is a history of war. History of struggle. History of power. Anybody who disputes that is a fucktard retard. You don't go full fucktard. Yeah, you never go full retard. Everybody knows you don't go full fucktard. I'm not sure if I told you this with my wife's expression. I thought you were going to say my wife is a retard. Yet. Sorry. No, no, no. Sorry. Jean's a saint. 02:28:35.040 --> 02:29:00.760 She's married to you. All of our wives are saints are married to us. No, she is a retard. I didn't want to leave it at that. Anyway, George, I'll chat with you offline about that. Blah, blah, blah, blah. Our last new release. Really? Really, George, you're going to blah, blah, blah us. Did you listen to the first hour of 45 minutes of this? It was all about me. Right. 02:29:05.040 --> 02:29:34.960 It's a fucking podcast. Go fuck yourself. Well, yeah, it was about me. Just kidding, dude. Yeah, I know. You were sleeping. All right. Our last new release is well-liked among the podcast crew, as far as I know, is the band Lantern. And another, yet another Finnish band, their third album, Dimensions. They're a black death band. And I just picked this up on Bandcamp the other day because it fucking rocks. 02:29:36.720 --> 02:30:03.740 Yeah, I like it a lot. See, I don't like it. Too muddy? The production is actually good on it. I love the music. I don't like the vocals. Oh, interesting. The guy sounds like a drunken husky guy just shouting at me, and it just doesn't work to me. You got against drunken husky guys. I mean, hello. I don't like him shouting. Yeah, I just, I really don't like the vocals. I've tried to listen to it a couple times. I just can't get into it because of that. 02:30:04.420 --> 02:30:34.400 I like this a lot. Yeah, I do too. Which is, it's funny. Because then we have people who are not taking a shot. It's just, it's funny to hear that. And then you have like some of these cavern bands, you know, that sound like some caveman taking a shit like 40 feet below ground or something. You mean primitive man? Maybe. I think perhaps, yes. I know what John's talking about. Primimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimim 02:30:35.280 --> 02:31:01.920 It's curious. No, I just find it interesting how we all hear vocalists different. I feel a year-end Jay coming on. Oh, that's not going to be on my list. I can guarantee you that. All right. That's it for new releases. In a strange twist of fate, we are swapping up how we do the script, and what we are listening to is now directly after new releases. 02:31:25.960 --> 02:31:27.660 There's a method to the madness. 02:31:28.880 --> 02:31:34.000 But as such, Ian, what are you listening to these days? 02:31:35.301 --> 02:32:02.660 Well, you know, guitar is my therapy. Play in the basement, you know. I bought a fuzz pedal, and it inspired me. And Kias. Wow. It's kind of off the radar. That's not true, because I believe that they're back on the radar again as a band. Possibly. Oh, wait. Josh is, like, up to playing maybe again. Ah. Yeah. 02:32:04.140 --> 02:32:33.720 It's funny you say it literally just came out a couple days ago. He's the one they would probably be waiting on. So that means he's one of my least favorite musicians in the world. But nonetheless. Yeah, it's funny. It's funny you mention Kai because I love Stoner Desert Doom, but so do I. Can't get behind Kai. Man, that well, it's surprising because was it? Sky Valley is like iconic in that world. I know, but the vocals. 02:32:34.120 --> 02:33:04.080 I can't get behind it. Just, but it's kind of like spirit and drift. Like spirit and drift could come out with the best music ever, but the vocals is like, yeah, really? You can't find somebody who can sing better than that. That's the template for stoner metal now. I know, but it sucks. Big floppy donkey dick. I haven't heard that one in a while. I think he's a dick personally, but that's just me. See the one that kicked a photographer? And he said, I didn't mean to kick her. You watched a video. He literally walks up and kicks her right in the face. Yeah. He's done a lot of douchey stuff. 02:33:04.120 --> 02:33:34.020 He's just kind of self-important. Anyway, sorry. Anyway, sorry, Ian. Sorry about that. That's okay. But that's like the gateway to some other things, you know, in the same style. So I'm kind of in that super fuzz, super fuzz type of thing. What else you got? So like the whole Electric Wizard catalog then, basically? Well, I haven't been doing a lot of albums, but like D.O. I'm just deep diving. 02:33:34.120 --> 02:34:04.080 and then Dio just digging into all the things he's done. I love the old rainbow stuff. It's something I never really got into ever until the last, I don't know, year or so and just digging into that sort of thing. So I really love Dio. Can you imagine what he'd be singing like now if he was still around? And it's one of those things. It's kind of wishing you'd hope that they'd find some sort of lost album someplace and release it. But, you know, that's basically the digger. 02:34:04.140 --> 02:34:33.480 and kids want me to take them to the hologram so bad. This won't scratch that itch, but there is a DO documentary being put together, so you'll have to watch that before it's on. And it's by somebody fairly reputable. I can't remember who it was. It's like Universal Studios or Sony's done it. Really? I'll look it up. Is the director named Wendy? I'm sure she's had to okay it. You know, we were talking about posters. I was talking about posters recently and how you can't find any freaking posters. 02:34:34.140 --> 02:35:03.980 And I just got in the mail a couple days ago a Sacred Heart poster. It's 24 by 24. It's square. But that's cool. I found a frame for it. But it's not on paper. And it's not a flag. It's like this almost like vinyl, like parchment kind of thing. It's like really thick. I'm like, what is this? Like some Egyptian scroll or something? What is this? It's wild. 02:35:04.140 --> 02:35:05.780 It's really like high quality 02:35:06.961 --> 02:35:08.940 The documentary is being produced by 02:35:09.500 --> 02:35:10.700 two entities BMG 02:35:10.910 --> 02:35:12.760 Thank you for completely just fucking 02:35:13.040 --> 02:35:14.100 not caring about the poster 02:35:16.660 --> 02:35:18.200 I'm so happy about it 02:35:18.200 --> 02:35:19.640 and you're just like whatever moving on 02:35:22.360 --> 02:35:23.800 But it's BMG and Will 02:35:23.880 --> 02:35:24.860 who's the other party involved 02:35:25.760 --> 02:35:25.880 Cool 02:35:26.640 --> 02:35:27.260 Keep my eyes open 02:35:27.480 --> 02:35:29.840 Also read Jay's DOSA 02:35:30.180 --> 02:35:31.060 It's Wendy 02:35:32.440 --> 02:35:33.521 Anyway that's lovely George 02:35:33.540 --> 02:36:02.720 Can you show it to us? This is somewhere hanging up behind you or something? No, the frame doesn't show up until Tuesday. Okay. Next time. What else, Ian? Ginger. I know that's probably been around for a while, but it's one of those things. I know. But I love the bass player. I love the bass player. It was good to have you on, buddy. I'm sorry. It's all right. It's all right. 02:36:03.540 --> 02:36:31.640 Like I said, I just love the bass player. And a lot of bands these days or whatever I'm stumbling across, it's like I'm picking out. I love guitar music, but I love the bass player. So I can't stand the singing, but I dig the bass player. It's more like a jazz type of thing. So like I said, I'm looking for anything new to spark any type of guitar inspiration to play. But that bass player is ridiculous. 02:36:31.740 --> 02:36:36.760 You should look at Decimal Magazine's number two album from last year. 02:36:39.020 --> 02:36:41.200 No, Ginger's actually got a little metal in it. 02:36:43.960 --> 02:36:46.120 Okay, that's not an inside joke, but it's an inside joke. 02:36:46.380 --> 02:36:47.280 It's an inside joke. 02:36:48.660 --> 02:36:51.820 Will was mean and John was meaner, so that's good stuff. 02:36:53.200 --> 02:36:54.720 Don't skin out my back. I don't give a shit. 02:36:54.870 --> 02:36:56.920 Oh, no, no. I wouldn't be mean to you. He wasn't being mean to you. 02:36:57.060 --> 02:36:58.060 No, not to you at all. No. 02:36:59.060 --> 02:36:59.840 No, I'm sorry. 02:37:00.160 --> 02:37:30.140 It was like a running mean a decibel. Yeah. And a band. You started it. Decibel started it. Is that what you're saying? Matt will finish it. Dude's ready. All right. I didn't like it. Anything else Ian? That's it. All right. So something new. The reason that we're doing the new releases and then right into what we're listening to is 02:37:30.160 --> 02:37:32.860 that moving forward, 02:37:33.040 --> 02:37:33.700 each episode, 02:37:34.680 --> 02:37:45.940 we're all going to pick one album from the either new releases or what we're listening to as our album of the episode that stands out to us the most. 02:37:46.400 --> 02:37:48.960 So I don't know if you chose one, 02:37:49.320 --> 02:37:51.680 but you're on the spot to do so now. 02:37:53.140 --> 02:37:53.780 One you mentioned, 02:37:54.180 --> 02:37:55.000 one that we mentioned. 02:37:56.920 --> 02:37:57.060 Ding, 02:37:57.540 --> 02:37:57.640 ding, 02:37:57.820 --> 02:37:58.000 ding, 02:37:58.420 --> 02:37:58.660 ding, 02:37:58.920 --> 02:37:59.000 ding, 02:37:59.460 --> 02:37:59.680 ding, 02:37:59.700 --> 02:38:01.560 You know what you said there's gonna be a test on this thing? 02:38:01.980 --> 02:38:02.380 No, you're fine. 02:38:02.440 --> 02:38:03.680 It says it right there in bold. 02:38:05.180 --> 02:38:06.760 Pick an album discussed. 02:38:07.940 --> 02:38:12.300 Well, a lot of this stuff you guys are talking about, I've never even been exposed to. 02:38:12.500 --> 02:38:15.520 So, like I said, I'm just sitting in class here taking notes. 02:38:15.940 --> 02:38:17.280 I will expose myself. 02:38:17.940 --> 02:38:18.940 Just expose yourself. 02:38:19.260 --> 02:38:20.520 Just make sure there's no children around. 02:38:20.860 --> 02:38:21.700 If you guys can see. 02:38:21.760 --> 02:38:22.080 Oh, wow. 02:38:22.080 --> 02:38:22.540 Taking notes. 02:38:24.440 --> 02:38:24.800 But, um. 02:38:25.960 --> 02:38:27.340 Well, then for you, you know. 02:38:28.060 --> 02:38:57.860 For you, of the stuff that you have mentioned, which one would you call your favorite that you've talked about? I think it's Sky Valley with Caius and stuff. I just started getting into it and the sludge stuff and the desert stuff. I'm really enjoying that just because it's the sound du jour of the pedals that I've been purchasing and that sort of thing to enjoy COVID. 02:38:58.080 --> 02:39:26.780 at home. Cool. You know, since you know him, George Burrell texted me the other day and his son has picked up the bass. And he's just like, you know, he's like, this is awesome. Because, you know, back in high school, we bought George a bass. Yeah, we were pro too. Yeah. Wow. You know, you remember Shay. Because we were trying to get a band together. We're like, you're going to be our bass player. We bought him a bass and the motherfucker never learned it. 02:39:27.840 --> 02:39:57.600 Barely. And so now his kid has a bass and he's learning stuff. And he's like, and he texted me, he's like, dude, Nate just got a big muff pedal. He thinks he's Cliff Burton. And I was like, dude, does he have a crybaby? Then he ain't fucking Cliff Burton. But get the goddamn kid a crybaby. Yeah. Can't play anesthesia without it. I mean, that's, I remember when you guys got it for him. Yeah. Yeah, he sold that shit in college for like beer money or something. Blasphemy. 02:39:57.840 --> 02:40:27.300 I know that just came out recently but it can't it kind of got more than 50 bucks for it no so those aren't nice guitars man no it was cheap but you know but it's the thought that counts yeah absolutely all right well then moving on to Markisan what do you listen to buddy uh let's see here I got a rebel wizard magical mystical indifference on prosthetic records it's a fun sexy scoundrel of a record it's melodic black metal 02:40:27.980 --> 02:40:54.900 and thrash sprinkled with magically powered solos. I really like the last Rebel Wizard album, but I love this one. Do yourselves a favor and watch the video for Raiseth Up All Those That Be Bowed Down. It's the best video of the year so far, and that song is really good. I'm kind of indifferent. I only say that to make fun of the album title. No, actually, I haven't listened to it. I'm just teasing. 02:40:56.420 --> 02:41:24.900 Yeah, I wasn't really that big a fan of Rebel Wizard until this album, so really into it. I'll check it out. The next one is Wows Ver Sacrum on Deodrone, Shove Records, Koi Pu Records, and Hellbone Records. Apparently four labels merged like the Robot Lions of Voltron. Did Matt just make that shit up for you? No. No, actually I have to thank Dan Kladjen Kartok. Klan Char. 02:41:26.340 --> 02:41:56.260 That's my favorite one so far. Yeah, he made it up. It's an atmospheric hypnotic post-metal. They have a really horrible name, but their music is pretty great. The next one also has an unfortunate band name, and it is Drops of Heart, and the album's called Stargazers, self-released. I figured that was like a heart cover band or something. No. They have a unique sound. They play melodic death metal mixed with post-black and ambient sounds. 02:41:56.340 --> 02:42:26.220 and grooves and then all of the growled lyrics are in Russian. So Jay's wife can translate it. The next one is a Sayatus false piece on translation lost records. It's a really ambitious health scythe of progressive and experimental metal. I feel like I discover something new with every listen on this one. It's a really good one to put on headphones. It's a longer album. It's a double album. They put everything they had. 02:42:26.360 --> 02:42:56.180 that. So I never really listened to their stuff before. I think maybe a couple songs, but this one's really good. Serene Dark, Enantiodromia on Wolfspell Records. It's a blackened death with a evil symphonic heart to it. Ormskrik, self-titled on Fysisk format records. This album smokes. It's filthy, blackened, 02:42:56.360 --> 02:43:25.520 It's a barn burner from Norway. It sometimes slips into acoustic breakdowns and really hot traditional metal solos. I really like this record. You guys should definitely check it out. I think a lot of you guys will dig it if you haven't heard it. Undeath, Lesions of a Different Kind on Prosthetic Records. This is a death metal album that drops in September. I was going to say there's only one song for that, right? Yes. I've been spinning it a lot, that first single. It was good. 02:43:25.540 --> 02:43:54.660 Yeah, it's really good. And I've been listening to their self-released EP, Sentient Auto Lysis, and their demo. So I've just been listening to a lot of Undeath. I'm really high on this band, and I feel like they have a lot of heat now because Prosthetic signed them, like, I don't know, a few weeks ago. They were going to come out on a different label, and then Prosthetic signed them. And all their vinyl pre-orders keep going. So I'm expecting a really killer full-length out of this one. It's definitely a band to watch. 02:43:55.060 --> 02:44:24.680 And then we got the promo for this and we talked a little bit about it. Necrot, Mortal on Tank Crimes Records. And I think this one puts Necrot in the upper echelon of death metal for me. Blood Offerings was a really great album, but Mortal is the next level. It could easily be called Portal instead of Mortal because the band has opened up a whole new dimension of layer sound and badassery. And I just really want to keep listening to it over and over. 02:44:24.720 --> 02:44:54.620 And I can't wait for it on vinyl. And then my album of the episode. Oh, I wonder what that's going to be. Wonder what it could be. Yep. Incantation, Sect of Vile Divinity is on Relapse Records. So, you know, this record drops on August 21st, but we got the promo. I've already spun it probably like 10 times. Incant's been around a long time and their sound has clearly influenced a lot of death metal today. 02:44:54.720 --> 02:45:23.820 So when a band has been shredding faces for three decades, I can't help but ask the same question every time they put out a new record. And that's, can these old metal dicks offer something fresh and dynamic after all these years? And everybody knows that In Can is my favorite death metal band. And a big reason for that, love, is because I always answer yes to that question every time they put out something. They write really consistent, great records. And each one offers a little something different than before. 02:45:24.740 --> 02:45:50.880 But Sect of Vile Divinities, it continues that commitment, but it also, I feel like it completely re-energizes the band and elevates their sound to a level that I didn't anticipate. The riffs are Titanic, Star Destroyers, John McEntee's growls seem like they were ripped out of a hell trench demon's throat. The song pacing, the production is flawless. It is. 02:45:52.080 --> 02:46:19.520 Every second of this album is just really stunning to me, you know, and there's a lot of attention lavished on new death metal bands over the last few years, and rightly so. Necrot's new album is Exhibit A of that. But when I finished my first spin of Sect of Vile Divinities, I could not help but smile at the thought that these old metal dicks and incantation just blew the roof off modern death metal in 2020. 31 years. 02:46:20.180 --> 02:46:50.100 They got me pulled over the other day. There you go. It's like the best compliment you can give to the record. I guess. Do you know are they actually dicks? And it is better than the Necrod album. The Necrod's good, but this is better. No, I don't think they're dicks at all. No, actually, when we interviewed that guy, John, he was good, maybe nicer at Decibel Fest. Super chill, super funny, super non super humble. 02:46:50.160 --> 02:47:19.080 Just a nice fucking guy. Somebody you'd want to hang out with. Yeah. And they do a lot of videos lately just talking to the fans. They've been doing them all throughout the pandemic. And he just chats. And they've been pretty fun. I've been on a bunch of them. So. But yeah, I love it. You know, I knew I was going to like an Incantation record, but I didn't expect to like it this much. It's good. It's I'm going to be on heavy rotation all year for me. Yeah. All right. Matt. 02:47:21.739 --> 02:47:22.360 Let's see. 02:47:23.460 --> 02:47:26.640 Purion, Abscess Time on Willowtip. 02:47:27.100 --> 02:47:28.340 I've spent a little bit of time with it. 02:47:28.620 --> 02:47:29.280 You like that one, bro? 02:47:30.700 --> 02:47:31.260 Sad, bro. 02:47:31.820 --> 02:47:32.740 Actually, happy, bro. 02:47:33.700 --> 02:47:35.100 Actually, I'm undecided, bro. 02:47:35.320 --> 02:47:36.580 I've got to figure out if I like it or not. 02:47:36.880 --> 02:47:38.780 I really hope that guy listens to this cast. 02:47:39.920 --> 02:47:41.340 Yeah, I want to know his list, too. 02:47:42.020 --> 02:47:42.420 Absolutely. 02:47:43.820 --> 02:47:45.500 As mentioned, the new Lantern Dimensions. 02:47:46.680 --> 02:47:49.680 Obviously, new Incantation, Sect of Vile Divinities. 02:47:49.700 --> 02:48:18.820 The New Necro T, Mortal. Also in the box, I believe the band is called Drag Car. Yeah. Crossroads of Infinity via Unspeakable Axe. I don't know. To me, it has that deity, deity, death sound we talk about, but a little bit more thrashy, a little bit more like 70s motorcycle gang-ish. Yeah, really digging that one. I'm going to fuck up this pronunciation, but Asaitas, False Peace. 02:48:19.540 --> 02:48:48.460 Asaitis, I think was the way Markazan said it. That's how I say it, but I don't actually know. Hang on, let's do this. Asaitis, yeah, I like the way that sounds, but it could be something different. Asaitis, Asaitis. Ass eaters. That doesn't sound right. Not to spoiler alert, but that's on my list too, and I'm glad Markazan said it because I was going to call it ass-itis. Well, you know. 02:48:49.520 --> 02:49:19.300 We all say things differently. You say tomato, I say assitis. I love all pronunciations. They're all welcome. That album is all over the place, but I dig it. Next would be Ars Magna Umbre. This doesn't come out until the 21st of August. There's a couple tracks out there. The band stands out in my mind because they were on my 2018 How the Fuck Did I Miss This Album? Because I was listening in 2019 and then I saw I was in 2018 and it's like, 02:49:19.520 --> 02:49:48.720 You know, is that moment where you realize, well, there's no point in me listening to this because we're a year past. It's old. Yeah, exactly. Can't be on a list. Why listen to it? Yeah, it's like three weeks old. That's bullshit. So I'm going to try and get in front of this one so I can actually be on my list if it's good. Some strange force pushed me into just going through the Bathory catalog. I've been enjoying that. And then my album of the episode, Rebel Wizard, Magical, Mystical, Indifference. Still indifferent. 02:49:49.540 --> 02:50:19.500 Yeah, I am not indifferent on this one, and it is clearly not one that I made up, but his stuff has been in and out of my list. It's one of those bands where it's like in, out, but. In, out of butt, got it. Exactly. I feel like this one is probably his best offering. I remember the first time I heard them thinking back, like, the vocals are so messed up. I'm like, what does this sound like? To me, I thought, when you're at the dentist and you're getting your mouth clean and then the instruction thing to get the 02:50:19.520 --> 02:50:49.500 the saliva and the water out of your mouth while singing. That's what it sounds like to me. And once I made that picture in my head, I thought, I fucking love this shit. His riffs are amazing. To me, it's like if you took that opening riff off of A talking about love and just made it sinister and messed up, that is what it sounds like to me. Definitely worth checking out. And it's just fun. The songs are fun. Yeah. Matt, I've seen some movies and stuff, and the Strange Force 02:50:51.319 --> 02:50:52.120 is Satan. 02:50:53.899 --> 02:50:54.540 Just so you know. 02:50:56.040 --> 02:50:58.100 Oh, I don't know. Could it be Satan? 02:50:59.840 --> 02:51:00.960 Wait, we want to call it... 02:51:01.140 --> 02:51:02.220 It could be a teenage judge. 02:51:02.880 --> 02:51:03.400 Yeah, possibly. 02:51:04.940 --> 02:51:09.000 I just feel like every time we say Satan, there should be like an awkward 10-second pause. 02:51:09.880 --> 02:51:11.180 I think we should get out. 02:51:11.280 --> 02:51:11.580 Satan's anus. 02:51:13.580 --> 02:51:14.260 Satan's anus. 02:51:16.340 --> 02:51:17.080 But that is it for me. 02:51:18.200 --> 02:51:19.440 I have too many of these. 02:51:20.020 --> 02:51:22.180 There's definitely something about Matt saying 02:51:22.680 --> 02:51:24.400 It's a little salty, but it's not bad 02:51:24.740 --> 02:51:25.140 That's not it 02:51:26.180 --> 02:51:26.960 My favorite though 02:51:27.380 --> 02:51:29.440 I have too many of these 02:51:30.700 --> 02:51:30.980 Oh well 02:51:31.500 --> 02:51:31.780 Oh wait 02:51:32.720 --> 02:51:33.160 Satan 02:51:33.780 --> 02:51:34.280 There it is 02:51:34.300 --> 02:51:35.260 Oh, there you go 02:51:37.180 --> 02:51:37.560 Alright 02:51:38.040 --> 02:51:40.160 I cannot think of that guy's name from the documentary 02:51:41.240 --> 02:51:42.220 The Sam Dunn one 02:51:42.620 --> 02:51:43.300 Metal Headbangers 02:51:43.570 --> 02:51:45.160 Oh, you're talking about Gall? 02:51:45.760 --> 02:51:46.640 Yes, thank you 02:51:46.760 --> 02:51:47.140 Oh yeah 02:51:47.600 --> 02:51:48.720 What are your influences? 02:51:48.780 --> 02:52:18.120 It's Satan. Satan. Now that pause, that one needs the dramatic pause. That's where the dramatic pause comes from. But you need to have like a glass of wine. You have to hold it like real pompously like you're holding like a snifter of like brandy or something. Telling people it's blood. Yep. Now let's go to the mayhem interview. Fuck them. Who said that? Fuck them. All right, John. All right. 02:52:18.760 --> 02:52:48.340 So the first four on my list, I think they were all released prior to the mid-year. I could be wrong. I probably am. That's sad, bro. Fuck. Damn. My list sucks. Anyway, so the first one is called Descent, the Deviant, third album from a Swedish, like, prog metal melodic death band. Never heard it before. Checked out the album because the album cover. 02:52:48.380 --> 02:53:17.480 I pulled a 13-year-old John, and I liked it. I thought it was pretty good. I've been digging into their catalog a little bit. I'm not a big melodic death metal fan, but there's enough prerogonists for me to get pulled in, so I might explore some more. Oh, there's explosions going on in my neighborhood. Sorry, I thought somebody was doing something. Yeah, I can hear them. Wow. Great. Somebody's burning something down. 02:53:18.899 --> 02:53:48.220 My next one is Felwarden Weathered in Mourning Cloud. Second release from an English atmospheric black metal band. They are a couple guys from the band Fenn. That came out right before we recorded and I just couldn't put that on the list after one or two listens. I didn't think it'd be fair. So that's a solid album. I'm not a super fan, but I think it's a pretty good album. I don't know how it compares to their first one yet because I haven't listened to it enough. The third album on my list, 02:53:48.400 --> 02:54:14.060 I got from Markisan and I know it was on his list. So we have a chance to have four matches possibly. And I know George had this on his list. It's a very, what is going on outside? Fuck. I feel like I need to open the window. Watch fire. I feel like I have to pull Markisan. Whoa. There's like fireworks going on outside right now. And then like 20 minutes later, what the fuck? 02:54:19.040 --> 02:54:47.960 You'll be happy about this Markisan fire link. Oh, yeah, it's a solid. Um, I like it a lot. It's got a nice kind of melodic black prog thing going on. They're from Atlanta, Georgia, which is a hotbed for black metal. And that's sarcasm. I don't think that's my new thing. I thought you would take that one. Yeah, well, always makes fun of me for saying now shit's getting serious. My new thing now is a hotbed for these obscure cities. 02:54:48.380 --> 02:55:16.060 Is that the Atlantean black metal? Yeah. It's like, remember Nashville's a hotbed for tech death. I honestly went back and listened to the first album. I was like, it's all right. This one blows me out of the water, I think, by a mile. So my fourth one, George mentioned actually on his honorable mentions, which I hadn't listened to this because I thought the album cover was just like, oh, really? But the album's pretty cool. Void's Ceremony. 02:55:16.820 --> 02:55:44.640 Entropic Reflections Continuum, Colon, Dimensional, Yeah, Dimensional Unravel. This is kind of a wild tech, death, prog, hints of atheists in their sound. I don't even know if I like it yet because it kind of goes all over the place, but I keep finding I'm drawn to listen to it and I like little bits of it more and more each time I listen to it. So it makes it interesting to keep going back. It's kind of crazy, the album. 02:55:45.580 --> 02:56:15.020 I have one promo from the box, which I chose this one because one, I like it a lot. And because no one else would choose it. And this one's in the box, man. What's in the box. And this way we could all cover all the promos we've gotten. But this is the, it's funny because George literally sends me a message on Friday. He says, Hey, don't we like this band? And I'm like, yeah. And the band is exist from Baltimore. 02:56:15.580 --> 02:56:42.680 And it's their third album coming out soon, next month. And I believe it's Egotista is how they pronounce it. It's their third album, their progressive death tech band. They got a lot of fusion in their sound, so it's very cynic-like, the sound. If you don't know anything about them, Max, their lead singer, was also the singer for Death to All, the tribute band for Death. I'm a big fan of these guys. 02:56:45.580 --> 02:57:15.540 For One, So True, So Bound. So I'm looking forward to listening to this more. I haven't listened as much to this yet. I got partway through it. Wasn't it a little more death last time? Yes, this is way progier this time. That's what I was telling you. I didn't know how many people would take it. There's still some very heavy pummeling moments of death metal, but it's a little more, I don't want to use the word experimental, but they do a little bit more. They branch out a little more in this album. I'm going to throw this in because I didn't realize 02:57:15.580 --> 02:57:19.380 today was the 20th anniversary of face warnings disconnected it's one of my favorite 02:57:19.500 --> 02:57:23.800 albums by them i listened to that today so i had to throw that out there my album of the 02:57:24.100 --> 02:57:30.020 episode it's funny uh we all liked it Markisan likes the music not the vocals but that's cool 02:57:30.520 --> 02:57:34.280 that's lantern dimensions i don't know what it is about this album i just i kind of dig this 02:57:35.140 --> 02:57:42.100 there's something about it i i like it's it's a riff heavy album which i kind of dig it's not a long 02:57:42.120 --> 02:58:12.060 It's about 38, 39 minutes. But the opening track and the ending track, the bookend tracks, are just outstanding for me. I just love how they kind of go from this frenetic death metal pacing to this kind of mid-pacing riffing throughout the album. I'm going to pull a J here, and I'm going to make a really strange comparison that makes sense to some people and others don't get it. And that's not a knock on J. It's just he finds these odd connections. And I have a Van Halen connection to this. 02:58:12.120 --> 02:58:42.080 this album and i think jay might get this everyone thinks of eddie van halen as a solo player but he might be quite possibly the greatest rhythm guitarist ever to live his rhythm playing is amazing this album has amazing rhythm guitar parts on it and it really stands out especially on the final song monolithic abyssal dimensions there's a moment like halfway through it's like a 15 minute 14 minute song where they just go into this guitar riff 02:58:42.080 --> 02:59:12.020 You know, just it's the rhythm player only. And it just goes on for about 10 seconds and it just leads in. You can just kind of picture that's when everyone in the pit stops and watches him play. And then it builds up and then the pit explodes. And I just absolutely love that about this song. And I'm on a kick now to find traditional death metal sounding bands that have songs that are longer than 10 minutes. There's not many of them. And because of this song, I've been exploring that a little bit. So that's it. Cool. That's my, and it's also the only album I kind of like. 02:59:12.100 --> 02:59:41.540 from July. So that might be a hint coming up for the island. Crap. We got to do that soon, don't we? Didn't we just do one of these? It feels like it, yeah. All right, Will. What time is it? It's time for you to do your shit. Time for shit to blow up in Annandale, Virginia. You know, weirdly enough, I live about two blocks. 02:59:42.100 --> 03:00:11.660 I live two blocks from the Homeland Secretary chief and there was supposedly some protest by his house today. Oh, nice. Because the whole Portland. Yeah. Yeah. So we are what are we listening to? I'm gonna go through this quick because it's late. I'm tired. So Necrot, Mortal, we got the promo. Incantation, Sect of Vile Divinities. If I had to choose Sophie's Choice, 03:00:12.100 --> 03:00:16.440 Incantation all the way the 03:00:18.580 --> 03:00:19.300 Garaya 03:00:21.420 --> 03:00:27.560 Limbo listen to that Black Royal I actually so I want to say Black Royal Firebride 03:00:28.820 --> 03:00:35.580 because I've been listening to a ridiculous F ton of stuff that you guys collectively have 03:00:39.221 --> 03:01:05.200 have from the mid-year have told me about. And I'm going to go through my recent Bandcamp purchases. I was shocked you bought one of mine. My number one right now, my newest one is Cryptic Shift, visitation from Enchiladas or Encephalitis. That one, yeah. Damn it, get it right, guys. By the way, 03:01:13.619 --> 03:01:35.560 The album cover. He's doing the album cover. Oh, sorry. You got to turn around, Marcus. That's the problem. No, no, no, no. It's more of like I have to put up the Word document and it covers all of you. I can't see any of you. Sorry, now I'm going to go back to... So I've bought... 03:01:35.580 --> 03:02:05.520 Crypto Shift, I've bought Caustic Wounds, I've bought Horned All Muddy, which now I remember, it reminds me too much of... What band do you think Horned All Muddy sounds the most like? Lamb of God, you're right. Okay. Whatever. I didn't see that one coming. I didn't either. The lead singer of Horned All Muddy sounds exactly like Lamb of God. Oh, the singer. Okay. Oh, yeah. I've bought... I don't have my glasses on. 03:02:05.580 --> 03:02:35.560 I have Mara Smelly. Yeah, that John. That was awesome. I love that album. Unrequited. It's not going to come up later, but one that George turned me on to is APEP, the Invocation of the Deathless One. So basically what I did is I went back to 03:02:35.580 --> 03:03:05.560 all the stuff that a whole bunch of you guys said were awesome on the mid-year. I didn't have any like no I don't know what the fuck. I'm tired. I basically had no like it wasn't on my radar and so I bought a whole bunch of stuff but the one one the one that I want to talk about is the Temple of Dread. Has anybody got a hold of this one yet? No. The album is 03:03:05.580 --> 03:03:35.540 The band is Temple of Dread. The album name is World Sacrifice. And if you like old school obituary, which I probably am a man alone on the island on this one. Shut up. I don't remember anyone really talking about old school obituary. Especially not Matt wearing the t-shirt. Yeah. But if you like it. You think it was a fake name on his shirt? World Sacrifice. 03:03:35.660 --> 03:04:05.460 Is that the one? I'm sorry. I'm sorry. That was three and a half hours ago. And we're halfway through the fucking episode. No, we're only three hours and 15 minutes, not three and a half. 319. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. We're three hours and a few minutes through this episode. And I'm fucking tired. Still half as short as the mid-year. And we still got a top five to do, baby. You need to perform better for our guest, Will. No. You need to take a patent. 03:04:06.380 --> 03:04:07.600 Markisan micro-nap. 03:04:07.880 --> 03:04:08.600 Yeah, go take a nap. 03:04:09.720 --> 03:04:10.220 You're good. 03:04:10.360 --> 03:04:16.020 How about I just ramrod through this and Temple of Dread. 03:04:16.840 --> 03:04:17.060 I just wish-listed it. 03:04:17.060 --> 03:04:18.860 If you like an old school of Dread, just go to it. 03:04:19.500 --> 03:04:20.040 Blah, blah, blah, blah. 03:04:20.290 --> 03:04:20.380 Go. 03:04:20.920 --> 03:04:21.240 All right. 03:04:21.300 --> 03:04:21.580 All right. 03:04:21.700 --> 03:04:22.980 So that's your album of the episode. 03:04:22.980 --> 03:04:23.860 You said ramrod. 03:04:23.880 --> 03:04:26.440 Yes, I'm going to eat a vegan burrito. 03:04:27.020 --> 03:04:27.300 All right. 03:04:27.460 --> 03:04:27.960 Jay's honor. 03:04:28.359 --> 03:04:29.180 Jay's honor, yeah. 03:04:29.660 --> 03:04:30.380 All right, Jay. 03:04:31.120 --> 03:04:31.880 Excellent shout-out. 03:04:33.060 --> 03:05:02.500 My list is brief just because I tend to focus on a few small things and obsess. So I've been listening. Stop obsessing about my small thing. Just like everybody else. Well, at least me. I spent my week primarily with incantation and necrot, necrot, necrot, necrot, necrotee, whatever the fuck we've all decided. And I just literally go back and forth between those two. Now, there are other things I'm listening to, namely, not unlike George, 03:05:03.080 --> 03:05:33.020 After having done a huge Napalm Death Deep Dive this year, I'm back into that again because the single came out. I'm excited about the new record. So I've been listening to a lot of them. And then I've also got a digital download that I didn't know I could get on this Venom box that I have that has a bunch of rarities on this one album. So I've been listening to this rarities stuff. I'm going to double up on my album of the episode because first and foremost, it's Incantation without question. That's a great record. I love it. 03:05:33.680 --> 03:06:02.120 I would listen to it. Just like Marcus, I think I've listened to it 10 times. But I'm going to double up because this is not a record, but I'm going to also add, actually, I was going to do this alone if there wasn't a record, but Incantation, I have to choose. The Merciful Fate book I'm reading. That's my record of the month. Merciful Fate, Into the Coven with Merciful Fate by Martin Popoff. I do not think that word means what you think it means. Book of the episode. And that's it. I'll keep mine brief. All right. 03:06:03.080 --> 03:06:28.600 Before I do mine, I just wanted to mention I just saw this comment on Facebook. It's actually in response to Jay's, you know, Jay always posts the Facebook thing about us recording the episode. And one of our top fans, Nick, said, I just got my playlist made from your half year episode. I have 71 and a half hours of metal ahead of me. 03:06:33.199 --> 03:06:33.740 Go ahead. 03:06:34.140 --> 03:06:36.840 No, that's to say by the time you finish Nick will be starting to year end. 03:06:37.220 --> 03:06:37.360 Yeah. 03:06:38.500 --> 03:06:47.580 So I just because you brought that up, I have to share with you a text that I got from John BT and it goes like this. 03:06:48.600 --> 03:06:50.560 So I'm like, this was a few days ago. 03:06:50.760 --> 03:06:55.740 So I'm like four hours into this mid-year pod up to 19 when you all had the zoom background battle. 03:06:56.120 --> 03:06:56.240 Wow. 03:06:56.440 --> 03:06:57.540 How did you live through this? 03:07:00.100 --> 03:07:29.060 And he was sincere. He was just like, how did you fucking put up with this shit? So anyway, that was John. He made it through the whole thing. Well, I'm glad that he, yeah. Anywho. Anywho. All right. So my list is not long. Not too long. Average. You know, jumbo six inches. First up, we'll just mention this one. And that is APEP, the invocation of the Deathless One. First album from a German death metal band. It's like, you like Niall. 03:07:29.340 --> 03:07:57.780 You're gonna like this. I mentioned twice before, Asitis or Asiates, false peace. And of course, Incantations, Sect of Vile Divinities, been playing the crap out of that one, got me pulled over. And then the Necrot, mortal as well. Been listening to a lot of Napalm Death and Nazim. Fucking Jay got up and left when I wanted to ask if he listened to the Nazim. 03:07:58.780 --> 03:08:28.560 Come back to that maybe. Putrid Awful. Their second album, Sickness Obsession. Their French death grind band, Putrid Awful. Yeah, it's a little redundant, isn't it? O-F-F-A-L, not awful. As in like poop. I don't think this one's quite out yet, but we've got the promo and it's pretty cool. It actually got pushed back. It would have been on my mid-year list, but it got pushed back. And then, 03:08:28.780 --> 03:08:57.240 One that is very podcast appropriate. Task Force Beer. Blast Beat Hangover Commando. This is the second album from a German, of course they're German, Death and Grind Band. And then my album of the episode, Athanatheos, Prophetic Era, or How Yahweh Became the One. This is the second album from a French death metal band. 03:08:59.720 --> 03:09:27.660 It's like very Old Testament. Obviously, it's got the Yahweh, but they pronounce it Yahweh, reference. And there's like, I've been trying to read through the lyrics and listen along because they said you really got to read the lyrics with it to get the most out of this thing. And it's all Old Testament biblical quotes for the first like half of the album. And it's, I don't know, it's just, it's very interesting to me. And so that is why. 03:09:28.780 --> 03:09:29.280 It's my album. 03:09:29.900 --> 03:09:30.340 Album of the episode. 03:09:31.320 --> 03:09:32.280 Now that Jay's back. 03:09:33.800 --> 03:09:34.240 What about that? 03:09:34.520 --> 03:09:36.580 Did you listen to the Nazem that I told you to listen to? 03:09:37.020 --> 03:09:37.320 I did. 03:09:37.420 --> 03:09:37.780 It's fucking great. 03:09:37.900 --> 03:09:37.940 Yeah. 03:09:38.240 --> 03:09:40.300 I listened to the one you told me to listen to. 03:09:40.330 --> 03:09:40.500 So I, 03:09:41.060 --> 03:09:41.240 all right. 03:09:41.400 --> 03:09:41.680 I was like, 03:09:41.840 --> 03:09:41.920 dude, 03:09:42.320 --> 03:09:44.400 if anybody is going to like a Nazem, 03:09:45.380 --> 03:09:46.540 because you have a big Nazem, 03:09:47.199 --> 03:09:48.160 then it would be you. 03:09:49.020 --> 03:09:49.320 I love it. 03:09:49.420 --> 03:09:49.760 It's good. 03:09:49.820 --> 03:09:50.080 It's fucking, 03:09:50.220 --> 03:09:51.400 it's just because you said it was, 03:09:52.000 --> 03:09:53.880 it's got a lot of originality to it. 03:09:53.940 --> 03:09:55.320 If you just listen to like the first track, 03:09:55.410 --> 03:09:55.940 you could be like, 03:09:55.960 --> 03:10:25.920 Okay, I know what this is all about, but you don't. You gotta go all the way through it to kind of see if these guys are pretty fucking creative. It's good stuff. Yeah. Sorry, and I will be buying more. Excellent. Yeah. All right. That is it for what we were listening to. We are going to do a top five list, but first we have to announce the results from our last metal Thunderdome. That was Will's pick of Exodus, Bonded by Blood versus Testament, The Legacy. And by a narrow mark, 03:10:25.980 --> 03:10:49.340 Bargin, Exodus, bonded blight, blood, one, 52% to 48%. So next time, next episode, Jay, it's up to you to pick something. I already got it. And I'll share it with you next time. All right. It's a hard one too. It's going to break some hearts. I haven't the slightest fucking idea what I'm going to do, but at least I have a couple months to figure it out. 03:11:13.379 --> 03:11:24.540 All right. So when I first talked to Ian about coming on, as I do whenever we have a guest on, I'm like, hey, do you have a top five list that you would like to do? 03:11:25.620 --> 03:11:48.900 And he said, yeah, how about top five bands George told me about? And I laughed. I was like, oh, that's pretty funny. And then I was like, wait a minute. This could work. Because, you know, there's the ongoing joke about how I've heard everything before everybody else. I mean, I call it a joke. It's true. It's true. It's true. Okay. I heard everything before everybody else. It's true. 03:11:51.320 --> 03:12:21.220 But I thought it would be funny. And after some back and forth, we decided to actually do this. I'm going to do it in third person as best I can. And we'll and have a completely different theme to mine than probably everybody else will. But that's OK. So, Ian, what's your number five album that I told you about? Master of Puppets. What? That's my number five. Five. Holy crap. I must. I must. 03:12:21.340 --> 03:12:28.920 I didn't do albums it was more of the bands well yeah that's fine too bands albums 03:12:29.070 --> 03:12:35.020 doesn't matter okay yeah but as I go up I mean like I said before at the top of the podcast 03:12:35.980 --> 03:12:42.800 is that when you come in as a complete rube George did a nice job of laying the foundation as you learn any 03:12:43.510 --> 03:12:50.320 subject of any kind you learn the basics and he set me up very solidly with the basics all right 03:12:51.079 --> 03:13:20.160 Markazan, your number five. Number five is Thrasenblatt. Any album, it doesn't matter. Number five? Yeah, well, I mean, I don't like Thrasenblatt as much as George does. Nobody does. I mean, I think I first heard George cream all over this band before I was even on this cast. And as we know, he never shuts up about them or gets tired of equating their music to the glorious soundtrack for heaven. You know, I just had a conversation with Joel. 03:13:22.380 --> 03:13:25.200 It's funny because I was getting ready to text him and he texted me. 03:13:26.420 --> 03:13:31.400 And as you know from the conversations, Joel's a little bit out of date on his news. 03:13:32.360 --> 03:13:37.600 But anyway, so I wanted to fucking beat a dead horse. 03:13:37.710 --> 03:13:44.860 One of the songs that I've been trying to record is the Woods of Epre song, Wet Leather from Woods 4. 03:13:46.600 --> 03:13:49.280 And I'm going through, 03:13:49.420 --> 03:13:51.260 I've got all of the parts down on the song, 03:13:51.450 --> 03:13:52.400 except for the guitar solo. 03:13:53.360 --> 03:13:54.700 And I'm looking at the tab going, 03:13:54.880 --> 03:13:56.760 how is this fucking physically possible? 03:13:57.520 --> 03:14:01.120 It's got a hammer on from the eighth fret to the 17th fret. 03:14:01.880 --> 03:14:02.200 I'm like, 03:14:02.560 --> 03:14:03.000 I can't, 03:14:03.500 --> 03:14:05.280 I have teeny little bitch hands. 03:14:05.330 --> 03:14:08.000 I can't fucking stretch from the eighth fret to the 17th fret. 03:14:08.680 --> 03:14:09.220 And I like, 03:14:09.630 --> 03:14:11.980 you can move your hands. 03:14:13.010 --> 03:14:13.140 Okay. 03:14:13.230 --> 03:14:13.360 So, 03:14:13.760 --> 03:14:14.400 so I'm like, 03:14:14.530 --> 03:14:14.840 you know, 03:14:14.910 --> 03:14:15.020 I, 03:14:15.360 --> 03:14:16.340 I'm doing the best I can. 03:14:16.420 --> 03:14:46.360 And it's not working. I like I put it down. I go off. I run out and do some errands and I'm listening to this song on repeat the whole time. And I'm gone for like an hour. And on the way back, I'm like, he's fucking tapping. Finger tapping. And so I get back and I'm like, Joel, I know you played wet leather with Woods of Vipre on tour, right? And he's like, only 76 times. And I was like, did you play the solo? And he's like, yeah. I was like, you're fucking finger tapping. 03:14:46.640 --> 03:15:16.200 And he's like, totally dude. I was like, fucking thank you. I was like, it's just not physically possible to do that shit. Wait, is he going to guest on your song now or what? You know, I, I was like, maybe he could sing it. That's an inside joke from George. And I was like, he's like, I'm doing some stuff with Woodsy Price. Well, you can have Joel guest on it. He could definitely sing David's vocal, deep vocals better than I could, or any vocals better than I could. 03:15:16.420 --> 03:15:45.640 I love how my number five pick is Thrasenbaugh and I talk about how George just can't shut up about him. And I can't shut up about it. I know. I'm glad you brought that up. Listen, there's a couple of things I want to say about it. Sorry. I had it as a note to do and then I was like, nah, I'm not going to bother. But then when it came up, I couldn't help myself. That is cool though, George. Yeah. I'm like, how often can you like actually ask the guy in the band, hey, how do you play that part? So anyway. 03:15:46.400 --> 03:16:13.880 Matt. Sweet. My number five, Arctic Sleep. Nice. Very nice. Then John. My number five is only George gets half credit for this because I already knew who this band was. But he reminded me who this band was because I had forgotten about them and now I'm a super fan. And my number five is Exist. Right on. Half credit. 03:16:16.420 --> 03:16:44.080 a few years earlier, I forgot about it, and George was like, hey, you might like this band. I'm like, hey, thanks a lot. And I was like, fuck, I know these guys. Will? Mine's in the same vein as John's, where I knew about this band, but there was a particular time on the episode that George went on and on and on. And I'm really fucking hoping Ordos is on your list somewhere. 03:16:46.420 --> 03:17:13.400 And it was fucking Madonna. He talked about going to this Madonna concert. Which was awesome. Pretty sure for about a half an hour on our podcast one time. So my number five, Madonna. Does that mean you listened to Madonna and liked it? No. No, you just, it's just something I told you. Okay, I got you. I got you. Listen, I'm going to read off the script. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 03:17:16.400 --> 03:17:18.280 George told you about. 03:17:19.721 --> 03:17:22.060 I introduced you to the first time. 03:17:22.440 --> 03:17:23.700 Didn't have to like it. 03:17:23.900 --> 03:17:25.380 What you told me about. 03:17:25.680 --> 03:17:26.160 And I mean, 03:17:26.420 --> 03:17:32.520 spent a half an hour on this fucking podcast talking to me and the rest of us. 03:17:33.000 --> 03:17:33.920 Fucking Madonna. 03:17:34.250 --> 03:17:35.860 I think I know another female. 03:17:35.860 --> 03:17:38.380 I was going to say is Lady Gaga a little further up the list. 03:17:40.340 --> 03:17:40.980 It is true. 03:17:41.140 --> 03:17:44.000 Cause top five could imply like best, 03:17:44.060 --> 03:18:14.020 but it also apply the abundance of talking george thank you will for having a different take on the top five you know i'm glad i'm glad y'all are like taking me down a notch because i was starting to feel like this was a little too george centric of an episode and uh so please continue to kick me in the balls oh man which brings us to my number five and i i do have you kind of stole my thunder just about two seconds ago george because i was really ready for this and that was that i wanted to have an honorable malentia list but the the one band i wanted to put on it was ordos but we all 03:18:14.040 --> 03:18:18.380 have agreed with our argument that john told us about that band so but that is completely false 03:18:21.960 --> 03:18:27.600 this is exactly how this whole thing started you know to be sure and i i'll go to my grave saying 03:18:27.900 --> 03:18:32.720 that while you may have told me about it i heard john tell me about it or does john tell me about 03:18:33.490 --> 03:18:40.319 well apparently george did too now my number five is uh more equates with one album but i didn't know 03:18:40.320 --> 03:19:09.780 about the band. And I say an album because the album in particular was so good. And George was really blown away when he first heard it. Didn't know who they were. It was Bill Witch. And it was Four Phantoms. And I didn't know that band at all. They only had one album before that, but I didn't have it. Didn't know who they were. And I fucking love Four Phantoms. Still love it. They've had questionable output since then in a lot of different ways. But that's definitely one I'm grateful that George told me about. There are some bands too. That's probably one of them that I eventually would have heard about. But there are some I would probably not have heard about. 03:19:10.340 --> 03:19:40.280 We're not for George and we're going to get to some of those. But number five, Bell Witch. All right. So I've probably known George longer than all of you. And so what I did was I picked albums that he told me about because I was there when he learned about them. But I picked each of my five picks as a pick from a different location in the Ann Arbor area. 03:19:40.340 --> 03:19:41.720 that I picked them up. 03:19:43.540 --> 03:19:46.740 Because naturally talking with Ian brings up old memories. 03:19:46.810 --> 03:19:47.640 And I'm like, wow. 03:19:49.399 --> 03:19:52.640 A lot of the classic albums that I enjoy now, 03:19:52.760 --> 03:19:56.780 I came from these different locations around Ann Arbor. 03:19:56.890 --> 03:20:00.720 And so my number five is actually a split. 03:20:01.020 --> 03:20:02.040 Not a split, it's a tie. 03:20:02.530 --> 03:20:04.660 Because I think I got both of these at the same time. 03:20:04.800 --> 03:20:06.180 At least that's the way I remember it. 03:20:07.460 --> 03:20:09.960 And these were from Record Town in the Briarwood Mall. 03:20:10.881 --> 03:20:38.880 And that would be Voivod's Roar and Running Wild's Under Jolly Roger. I bought both of those on vinyl in their literally like 12-inch section of heavy metal import vinyls that was like in the very back of the store. And so that's my number five. You literally lasted one episode before you reverted back to Voivod. Did I? Oops. Voivod. 03:20:38.900 --> 03:21:08.840 Well, to be honest with you, he didn't even make it through that last episode either. We started halfway through that one. Anyway, Ian, what's your number four? So going on with what Will said, I'm changing my list. What did he, who he told me about? And he said, okay, can bust your balls, I'll bust your balls. Bridge overkill. Jesus. Just kidding. Suicidal. Suicidal tendencies. I never would have found him. 03:21:08.920 --> 03:21:38.760 Without George. Nice. Which record did he turn you on to? The, yes, very first one. Yeah. And that's, uh. Self-titled. Yeah. I love it. It's good. It's the one you throw on. I, it's funny. I remember the guy who turned me on to that. And I, I was like, this fucking killer, dude. Completely different than anything you'd ever heard before. At that time, yeah. I just wanted a fucking Pepsi, man. I know. Matt. You know, Marcus, 03:21:40.079 --> 03:22:08.260 My number four is Starcaller. The album's called Perdition. Self-released. I think it came out in early 2019. George mentioned it. It's really well-done melodic death metal. Like an undercurrent of melancholy that I like in it. I think they only have the one album, but they're on my to-watch list because I really dug this one. I never would have found this one, I don't think, without George. Blast from the past, wow. 03:22:08.920 --> 03:22:37.380 All right. Matt. Sweet. My number four, Ashen Horde. Excellent. Trevor. Trevor. Trevor. Trevor. John. Matt, I didn't really take you for a clean singing guy. Weird. Rids, it's rare, but yeah. My number four should be my number five, my number three, my number two, my number one. 03:22:40.440 --> 03:23:05.340 Clutch? Am I number 6? Am I number 7? Number 8? Number 52? 53? And that's Throssenblock. Nice. I'm not going to go on. I've done my bit. You're supposed to say Satan after that pause. Satan. 03:23:08.940 --> 03:23:10.900 You're actually giving yourself 03:23:12.200 --> 03:23:12.440 like 03:23:13.100 --> 03:23:14.440 here's the albums that I 03:23:15.180 --> 03:23:16.260 turn myself on to 03:23:17.101 --> 03:23:18.380 Originally I wasn't 03:23:18.410 --> 03:23:20.580 I was just gonna step aside and not do it 03:23:20.630 --> 03:23:23.220 but then I think Marcus is the correct thing to do 03:23:23.480 --> 03:23:25.340 No no no it's actually a reasonable concept 03:23:25.470 --> 03:23:27.720 because there are bands you have found for yourself 03:23:28.060 --> 03:23:28.560 for sure 03:23:29.110 --> 03:23:30.740 Allow myself to find bands 03:23:31.420 --> 03:23:33.860 Let me tell you about the time I found myself 03:23:35.601 --> 03:23:37.460 But I told him to do it a different way 03:23:37.460 --> 03:24:07.440 He's like I'm gonna do it in third person and then he's already not doing it in third person trying but yeah all right uh will right yeah so my number four another um another band that George told us about for over and over and over again for probably this time I mean Donna was like a half an hour this is like probably an hour long in the podcast 03:24:07.460 --> 03:24:09.820 Recorded for our listeners. 03:24:13.000 --> 03:24:15.860 Do you know who I could possibly be talking about? 03:24:17.650 --> 03:24:18.080 No idea. 03:24:18.300 --> 03:24:19.260 I say a lot of bullshit. 03:24:20.240 --> 03:24:20.900 Lady Gaga. 03:24:23.160 --> 03:24:28.940 You've talked about Lady Gaga for like a fucking hour in a podcast one time. 03:24:29.720 --> 03:24:30.960 I love Lady Gaga, man. 03:24:31.180 --> 03:24:31.500 She's awesome. 03:24:31.500 --> 03:24:32.300 You told us. 03:24:32.580 --> 03:24:34.060 I'm doing one of her songs, too. 03:24:34.860 --> 03:24:35.120 Yeah. 03:24:35.740 --> 03:24:36.120 Bad romance. 03:24:36.260 --> 03:24:59.660 Keep that to yourself. Sorry, I'm keeping all of it to myself. I need never hearing any of this shit. Except for this. Lady Gaga. That's awesome. You're lucky that's not number one because I remember that episode. I was like, that was the episode that I wanted to wake up in the morning and have a cross stitch of microphone on my fucking forehead. 03:25:06.280 --> 03:25:35.940 My number four is another, mine are all serious, they're all really bands that George turned me on to that I like. This one is again tied to a specific album but all of their output is great, I did not know about this band until George told me about them, Cobalt, and the album in particular was Slow Forever, Slow Forever is, that I would not have known about that and it was very easily, I could maybe learn about it now and I'd be like, but I learned about it right when it came out because of George, Slow Forever is such a good fucking record. That is just a fucking amazing album. 03:25:36.280 --> 03:26:06.220 Yeah. And I would not have known about that. Is that the album with the Buffalo song on it? Yes. That's the one that Jay just kept like that. Buffalo song. No, no. It's Elephant Graveyard. Yeah. Okay. And it's still so fucking good. That's such a good song. Now I want to listen to it. That's so good. That's a band we haven't heard from in a while. That's right. They're a little slow. I think all of their releases are slow forever. Yeah. Oh, softball served up. Yeah, my bad. They're good live too. I don't know if you guys have seen them live. 03:26:06.280 --> 03:26:36.240 I did. I saw them here on that tour. They came and played a very small place that has gone out of business because of the coronavirus. Yeah, I had tickets. Was that a DC-9? Yeah, franchise went, but I didn't end up going because it was like a day after work and I just couldn't go. Yeah, that place is literally the size of a bedroom. It's so small. They played a place that size here. Yeah. So my number four is one that George 03:26:36.340 --> 03:26:37.480 is a big fan of. 03:26:39.760 --> 03:26:40.340 There you go. 03:26:40.540 --> 03:26:40.940 That's a little better. 03:26:41.360 --> 03:26:41.920 I'm trying. 03:26:42.600 --> 03:26:42.960 Yeah, you do. 03:26:43.100 --> 03:26:48.600 Uh, so back in, back in, uh, probably, it was probably 87 at this point. 03:26:49.250 --> 03:26:54.640 Uh, but he went to a place in Ann Arbor called Wazoo Records, which is this ups. 03:26:54.920 --> 03:26:57.300 It's one of those places where you go in the little stairway. 03:26:57.660 --> 03:26:59.840 It's just like this door on the street and you're like, what the fuck is this? 03:26:59.890 --> 03:27:04.340 And you go up this stairway and inside there's like some old hippie with a bunch of fucking records. 03:27:05.400 --> 03:27:35.160 And I would go through and flip through the vinyl. And I remember seeing this band that I'd read about in one of the magazines. There's this Swedish band called Candlemas. And it was the Nightfall album. And I was like, I'll give this a try. You know, can't be too bad. Turned out to be Nightfall. So it was pretty fucking cool. All right. How old was George then? He was probably about 15. 03:27:37.039 --> 03:28:05.360 I actually had to be 16. I was probably driving. So we're dangerously close to the Seinfeld words. George is upset. It's the summer of George, man. Come on. All right, Ian. Number three. Three. I'm, you know, going back to high school again. That's kind of where you stopped. After high school, you stopped suggesting things because we lost touch. Right. Yeah. But a lot of the, the bands that I really latched on to, 03:28:05.520 --> 03:28:35.280 is all about the guitar player. And for me, Alex Skolnick is my guy on Testament. So just tuning into that guy's, I'll say genius. I love Alex Skolnick's work. So Testament is my guy at that pick. Heck yeah. Soon you know about his jazz stuff, right? He does this whole jazz thing. Yes. Yeah, yeah. His whole family's like classically trained and, but yeah. Cool. All right. 03:28:35.400 --> 03:29:05.180 Mark is on. All right. Number three for me is make them die slowly. Ah, it's Ferox self-released about three hours before we started recording. I was stuck on four album recommendations from George. So I thought, why not ask him for another recommendation? So he gave me this, uh, first two, he fucked. He was like, fuck you. I already know this. It's tough. Cause I know, I mean, I get a lot of metal. Um, but this is really cool though. I, I, I dug that. I only spot it the one time. 03:29:05.400 --> 03:29:35.340 it was right before cast, but it's like a gore movie splatter beast of an album that's mixed between black metal and grind with some catchy melodies tossed into it. Which is like an Almoth rock in a way. Right. Cause it's like members of an Almoth rock and fuck pig. Yeah. And so yeah, it weaves in horror elements and clips of, uh, from movies, uh, into the songs. There's even a chainsaw on it. There's choir chants. It's, it's, it's, 03:29:35.400 --> 03:30:05.200 It's really good. So it's my number three because I put George on the spot today and he fucking delivered. That's right, man. I always deliver as Armored Saint once asked, can you deliver? Deliver. And I fucking deliver. Let me tell you. All right. Yeah. You know, I, I, when that album, I saw that album, I was like, oh, this is gonna be some stupid metalcore bullshit. You know, make them die slow. I mean, it sounds, it sounds like a fucking Wade Zombie wannabe album or something. 03:30:05.400 --> 03:30:35.360 Not that I don't like White Zombie, but... It's actually the name of a cannibal. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, you know, it just was like... I skipped over this like a half dozen times before actually listening to it. And then I was like, oh. And then I read out... I was like, oh, no, no, no, no, no shit. So, you know. It's got great riffs on it. Really good riffs. Yeah. All right, Matt. Sweet. My number three, the obvious, Thrasa Blup. Oh. I don't have the app open, otherwise I'd do it. But... 03:30:35.960 --> 03:31:05.280 Right on. I kind of figured that's going to be on most lists, although I bet it's not going to be on Will's. It has to be his number one. If he's doing it by volume. Will is full of bile and hate tonight, so I don't expect to see Thrasenblood on there. And his face has not moved, other than to flip me off right now this whole time. So, all right. Let's move on to John and hope for better things. I am awake, but I will. 03:31:05.400 --> 03:31:35.360 point out that it's again it's only 12 42 that's nothing morning hey will we've been doing this for three hours and 45 minutes yeah we're almost done we're almost done pipe down and let me do my picks we can move on yeah a half hour of that is you complaining well yeah all right my number three what happened the other three hours okay you got me there but yeah well we would have been done at midnight come on all right my number three is the band fen uh 03:31:35.380 --> 03:32:03.920 George mentioned their album Winter in 2017. I got it. I literally bought the whole catalog and then he proceeds to tell me, I don't really like them that much. I know. I liked them at the time, but I kind of moved on because of my just, you know, tastes change. It's a little, it's a little drawn out, but I'm, I'm a fan. I like them. So yeah. Last one was really good. It was a lot more concise and just came out at the end of the year. Right, John? Agreed. Yeah. And it's more focused, I think. Yes. 03:32:06.000 --> 03:32:35.160 All right, well, hit me. Literally. Hit me with your best shot. So to recap, number five, Madonna. You wouldn't shut the fuck up about it. Number four, Lady Gaga, because you really wouldn't shut the fuck up about it. Number three is, Jesus Christ, if you mention this band one more time, we're all going to fucking slur our throats throughout some more. I know who number one's going to be. 03:32:38.140 --> 03:33:03.780 I think I know what it is. Start with an S. Oh, I know what it is, too. Yeah. All right. We'll go into mine while we're all trying to guess that in our heads. Now, my three and my two are honestly, I don't know if it was George or one of you guys, because these came from the podcast. And I suspect one of them is George for sure. And the other one, I'm not sure. The one that I think is George is my number three. And that's King Goat. 03:33:05.000 --> 03:33:34.220 Who brought King Goat to the table? I don't remember. Probably. I think it was you, George. And I think you might have said, was it to me you said something? Probably. Then we're going to give it to George. I'm pretty sure it was George. I love that band. I love that fucking everything about that band. They are doom, man. They did a new one. Yeah, we're getting there, shouldn't we? Yeah, good a couple years. 2018. 03:33:38.340 --> 03:33:40.120 It's been a while since we had them on 03:33:40.840 --> 03:33:42.120 Yeah, we should have them on again, they were nice guys 03:33:44.239 --> 03:33:45.800 Alright, oh back to me again 03:33:46.220 --> 03:33:46.900 Alright, so 03:33:47.779 --> 03:33:50.100 I think my number three may be Will's number one 03:33:51.100 --> 03:33:52.680 Based on what was just said 03:33:54.399 --> 03:33:56.700 So George and I used to go to Tower Records 03:33:57.539 --> 03:33:58.340 religiously because 03:33:58.800 --> 03:34:00.460 that was like the biggest record store 03:34:00.480 --> 03:34:01.040 in Ann Arbor 03:34:01.879 --> 03:34:03.561 and we would 03:34:04.420 --> 03:34:07.300 just like literally get in the 03:34:07.720 --> 03:34:09.660 because like rock and metal were mixed together and I would 03:34:09.850 --> 03:34:13.140 we would just start at A and flip through everything A to Z 03:34:14.000 --> 03:34:17.080 looking for new music because there was no band camp back then 03:34:17.640 --> 03:34:19.560 you had to go through the miscellaneous too don't forget that 03:34:19.660 --> 03:34:22.740 oh yeah and I was having a particularly bad day 03:34:23.120 --> 03:34:25.260 as we were both were because we're third person 03:34:26.699 --> 03:34:30.221 and could not fucking find anything that really jumped out 03:34:30.240 --> 03:35:00.200 And so he settled for this album. They're a finished band. And this is their album, Down. And the band is called Sentenced. And it turned out to be one of those impulse. I'm probably going to hate this, but it turned out to be fucking amazing. I also suspect it's going to be on Will's list. Yeah. Yes. All right, Ian. Did you just go through the whole thing and thinking that 03:35:00.240 --> 03:35:30.080 That was on my list of what you introduced me to? No, what he talked about. Yeah, Will, you did something different, remember? I know. Honey, wake up. Jay was the one that suggested that that might be on your list. Jay, fuck you. Second of all, I write my own rules, fuckfaces. Okie dokie. I really do want Will to be like my sick grandfather at any number of us. Will, sweetheart, look, you know where you are, right? You're in the podcast. 03:35:30.240 --> 03:36:00.160 Are we recording? Will's turning into a cat that has an eight in like four hours. Fingers back. Number two. Three hours and 47 minutes. Still complaining. All right, I'll get through this quick. So a band or individual that surprised me when he recommended or at least I was exposed to it through George, King Diamond, and Merciful Faith. 03:36:00.240 --> 03:36:29.740 So that was a hole that I went down and it was fantastic and went backwards. Started with the solo, went backwards. And I pretty much bought the catalog. So thank you, George, for that. Endless hours of King Diamond ringing in my ears. Jay could not be more pleased. Yeah, you just made me, you made my day. One of my faves. All right. Number two for me is, 03:36:30.220 --> 03:37:00.140 Witnesses, Doom 2 self-released. I think someone else recommended it. Fiend recommended it to us. I recommended it. I passed it on. Yeah, and I didn't see his recommendation, so I got it from you. Just a really great, passionate Doom record with a singer that sounds more alt-rock than metal, but it works for me. And it made it on my mid-year list, so really dig that one. Yep, it's cool. Matt? All right, Linda. 03:37:00.260 --> 03:37:28.940 Number two, George, you told me about this band when we were in Germany. And moments later, we could watch them perform on the Wackinger stage. And that band is Wolfheart. I almost thought you were going to go Ahab with that one, but Wolfheart, yeah, I remember that now. You're like, no, definitely not Ahab. Oh, yeah. Wow. That was cool seeing them on that teeny ass stage. Yeah. Right on. 03:37:30.220 --> 03:37:59.860 All right, my number two, George did not actually tell me about. However, I saw it on his Bandcamp page, and this was very early on for me, and that is Arctic Sleep. I saw the cover to Passage to Gaia, and I was like, wow, that's a pretty cool cover, and I listened to the staircase. I was like, whoa, I'm down with this, so I'll give you credit for it. Even though you didn't say anything, I saw it on your Bandcamp page, and I liked it. 03:37:59.860 --> 03:38:04.440 I might have actually gotten that just from actually maybe will gets indirect credit 03:38:04.560 --> 03:38:09.880 because will told me to listen to the podcast. So I didn't even, I don't even think I knew you at that point. 03:38:09.990 --> 03:38:25.520 So will's like, I wish I'd never told you about the podcast or ever heard of you. Yeah. But he said that like three hours and 47 minutes ago. So yeah. All right, well, hold on. Let me, let me, let me just fluff my nuts real quick before you kick them. 03:38:29.200 --> 03:38:59.160 What I'm about to say, you're going to edit it all out anyway. All right, so we're just going to put a beep over Will's number two. Yes, perfect. Because you turned me on to this band. I was like, wow, this is awesome. This is a great band, a bunch of fucking homophobes. Right. So anyway, you just bleeped. 03:39:10.879 --> 03:39:13.680 All Father. 03:39:15.660 --> 03:39:44.340 I fucking love that last record so good and the one before it was good too but the second was fucking heavy as fuck and we had them on the show after the first record and after the second record I believe yeah and because we had them on the show that's why I'm thinking George was the one who brought it to everybody's attention but god I'll be looking forward to their next record for sure oh yeah definitely they're working on it and by the way Debt of Eons the Kingo did come out in 2018 so yeah should we do for a new one 03:39:45.660 --> 03:40:11.640 My number two. This is one of my favorite albums of all time. And George and I used to go to see movies at the State Theater on State Street in Ann Arbor. And right across the street on the corner was a place called Discount Records. Not around anymore. Actually, I think Record Town's not around anymore either. Tower's not around. Wazoo's still around. I looked it up. 03:40:12.500 --> 03:40:14.100 Forgot about it, George. It's Record Town. 03:40:14.180 --> 03:40:43.960 Yeah. But discount records. Thank you. Ian got it. It's just Chinatown thing. You know the movie Chinatown? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Got it. But discount records. It was more of a store of convenience. It wasn't very good. It was pretty small. Didn't have a lot of shit and it was overpriced, which is probably why they're not around anymore. But but this one time after going to a movie, we went in there and found something by a band that we'd heard of, 03:40:44.000 --> 03:41:13.960 but never seen in a store before because back then it was hard to find metal and while their first two albums never seen them before but their third album there it was oh and and he's like dude you got to pick this up and that was slayers rain in blood and that was life-changing so is that your first slayer record yes the first two i mean i i had a metal blade comp 03:41:13.980 --> 03:41:20.900 that had like chemical warfare and something else on there you know but like in terms of albums 03:41:21.270 --> 03:41:26.740 you couldn't find them in the store you know the reason i bought shown a mercy when it was the only one 03:41:26.960 --> 03:41:30.380 out meaning the only reason i could have fucking known about them and i sent you guys a link 03:41:30.740 --> 03:41:35.580 recently for the this um documentary that's coming out i read about them believe it or not a little 03:41:35.800 --> 03:41:40.882 blurb in cream magazine and had the famous picture of them it was famous at the time with the black 03:41:41.300 --> 03:41:42.860 They were over this woman with the blood 03:41:42.920 --> 03:41:44.880 and everything. And I was like, I gotta check these 03:41:45.080 --> 03:41:46.800 guys out. And that's how I heard about Slayer. 03:41:46.900 --> 03:41:48.980 And I bought Show No Mercy and I was like, fuck. 03:41:49.300 --> 03:41:50.960 I was so excited that they had that 03:41:51.040 --> 03:41:52.860 and I bought it and I went home and I listened to it. I was terrified 03:41:53.180 --> 03:41:54.940 by Rain and Blood. I was like, oh my god, this is 03:41:55.100 --> 03:41:55.480 so evil. 03:41:58.240 --> 03:41:58.900 And then, you know, 03:41:59.700 --> 03:42:00.280 now I'm jaded. 03:42:03.580 --> 03:42:04.760 Alright, Ian, number one. 03:42:06.279 --> 03:42:07.160 You stole my 03:42:07.340 --> 03:42:08.000 thunder, George. 03:42:09.400 --> 03:42:38.340 Slayer, brother. Rain and Blood. That has stuck in my brain like no other. And Slayer is kind of the go-to for me, big time, still to this day. Who would have thunk it? Clean Cut Kid. Slayer. Yeah, it's a deviant. I played it for my children. They don't get it, of course. But yeah, I love Slayer. 03:42:38.400 --> 03:42:39.280 It's a lot. 03:43:08.420 --> 03:43:37.960 where they made these two south of heaven and you get to rain and blood. It's just crazy. The guys, they admit they didn't know what they were doing. They just picked it up and just tore it up and improved and improved and now it's just amazing. It's still solid to this day. Yep. Slayer! I know, you can't say it without screaming. That's great. Alright, Marcus. Alright, my number one. 03:43:38.420 --> 03:44:08.320 is Unearthed Elf to the Catacomb Abyss. The episode where you guys interviewed Keith D about Unearthed Elf was the first episode of the Metalheads podcast I ever listened to. Interesting. It was like 55 or 54. I was drawn to it because I was looking for a metal podcast and I just had no idea why anyone would want to unearth an elf. So I had to find out. I enjoyed that interview and I immediately picked up the record and I loved it. 03:44:08.420 --> 03:44:36.940 And I've been a big fan of Keith D ever since. And I'm even collaborating with a guy right now. So not only did I get a great album recommendation from George, but that episode hooked me on the Metalheads podcast. So I would not be here without George talking up Unearthed Elf. You were sucked into my vortex of pain. All right, Matt. All right. My number one, Sulphur AM. 03:44:37.940 --> 03:45:05.980 Oh, I love that. Oh, fuck yeah. I feel like that might have been a... That's a J. Yeah, I thought it was a J. That's all right. You took up the cause. I mean, I think... I mean, I certainly pimped it, too. Well, you pimped the last one more than me, so he might have heard about it because of that one. Yeah, that's true. Right on. Great album. I was just looking at them the other day going, I want more of that, too. Yeah. Yeah, they're exceptional, actually. Yeah. Yeah. All right, John. 03:45:07.940 --> 03:45:13.960 I think the reason why there's confusion over Ordos is that I think maybe George 03:45:14.260 --> 03:45:36.582 pronounced him as Bordeaux's. That might be part of the problem when I was saying Ordos. Which, by the way, a very unattractive sound, so I'd have been like, I'm not listening to that fucking thing. Yeah, that's gotta be shit, you know, so. So my number one, again, George didn't tell me about it, but I actually heard him talk about it on the podcast. And the very first time I ever met him, I walked up to him 03:45:36.580 --> 03:46:06.280 at Fairwinds Brewing at Metal Knight. And I said, hey, you're that George guy from the podcast. And then I proceeded to say something that came out the wrong way, and it wasn't meant that way. And I said, I don't understand why nobody listens to you on the podcast. And I was referring to this album because I listened to it as his recommendation on the podcast. And they have become now the band that rules all. One band that rule all. That's Alkaloid. And the album was the Malkuth Grimoire. 03:46:06.600 --> 03:46:36.300 I heard that the first time. I was like, what the fuck? And it was all because he talked up the album on an episode I listened to. Wow. That did. But that swept the podcast that year, by the way. We were all crazy about that. It was definitely a George fine. Well, let's not just say all. Okay. Will gets partial credit for getting me to listen. Yeah, you get a J award for that one. Yeah, Will got a J award for that. All right. One more, Will. 03:46:38.980 --> 03:47:06.320 I'm not dead yet. I think I'll go for an Ordos. There you go. Wait, he had one serious pick? Wait a second. Come on. What an awesome theme, Will, and you just blew it off. Listen, Ordos started, like, this may predate you, Marc Asano, but Ordos started this whole thing. It did. This was, this was us. 03:47:08.380 --> 03:47:36.540 You just chose sides, motherfucker, by the way, too. I'm surprised that's the side you went to. All you got to do is go back and listen to the episode. George didn't get such a shit about it. All you got to do is go back and listen. It's there. I found it. There's been so much shit said about this particular band. And the whole thing, the entire, everything about George, like, saying that he, like, no, I told you about that band first. 03:47:36.600 --> 03:48:04.842 is all about orders all comes back to orders and for most of us who love orders which is i'm probably the number one it's just you and me yeah maybe yeah exactly but weirdly enough yeah apparent apparently um george talked about orders in one of his like 17 like album recommendations on the 03:48:06.719 --> 03:48:32.160 Sleep Album, when he goes on the Sleep Album rant. Not my fault you didn't listen to me. Well, we don't. That's the whole fucking point. We don't listen to you, but when John posted it on his Headphones Album Only list, he said Ordos. And I remember very distinctly, I was in Philadelphia at my brother-in-law's place. 03:48:34.860 --> 03:49:04.760 And I'm like, this is awesome. John, thank you so much. And then George is like, no, I told you about that album. And then this is going back and forth. And here we are. And here we are. So, okay. I'm glad you cleared that up for a second there. I actually thought this was a kind pick, but it's not. It's still another kind. 03:49:04.880 --> 03:49:05.760 in the balls. So thank you. 03:49:05.760 --> 03:49:08.180 It makes this list better. Will actually really thought this well. 03:49:08.440 --> 03:49:10.160 You know what's funny about this whole thing, Will? 03:49:10.380 --> 03:49:12.920 Is that technically I still told you about it. 03:49:12.960 --> 03:49:15.120 Sorry. Sorry. George. Holy fucking shit. 03:49:15.260 --> 03:49:16.120 It's true, Jim. 03:49:16.120 --> 03:49:16.780 Did you not hear anything I just said? 03:49:17.840 --> 03:49:18.240 Well, yeah. 03:49:18.360 --> 03:49:22.840 This is the originator of this whole segment. 03:49:23.120 --> 03:49:23.700 Yeah, I know. 03:49:25.520 --> 03:49:29.160 But it's on there because you're sick of talking about it. 03:49:30.960 --> 03:49:32.120 You're a fucktard. 03:49:32.900 --> 03:50:02.840 Oh, yes, but I'm not going full fucktard. Never go full fucktard. The whole point being is that. But hey, Will, did he actually really tell you about it if you didn't listen to him? Exactly. In a way, but he was so in fact, the whole point of this whole segment is he was so emphatic that I was the one who told you about that. I'm like, well, no, like I think Will's missing the continuation here of us and keep bringing it up. 03:50:03.860 --> 03:50:31.120 I mean, I get that I said it, but nobody listened to me. And so nobody thinks that it was me. That's fine. That's the whole point. That is the whole point of this entire thing. So the whole point is do not listen to me. Ordos will be the death of this podcast. Yeah. It might be four years from now. I hereby bequeath Ordos to George. No, John, no. 03:50:33.120 --> 03:51:00.900 No, I'm staying with you, John. I don't care. I can't. I understand. It's like a statute of limitations or some legal thing I don't understand happening here. But no, John told me about their record. I'm going to have to go back and find it and cut the clip out and post it. Yeah, but if they're snoring in the background, then that might answer everything. George, the whole point is you mentioned it first. No one paid attention. 03:51:01.020 --> 03:51:30.780 when John put it on Instagram saying like, oh my God, this is good. And I'm going to put this on headphones only album. And then John dismissed this album. The only people who like this album later on the year is Jay and me. And it dismissed it. It just didn't make my top 25. Oh my God. No, I do feel like he abandoned us, Will. He did. But, but. Jay, do you. I remember all exactly as you stated. I remember when John used to post the, the, 03:51:31.000 --> 03:51:59.980 It wasn't earphones only. It wasn't earphones only. It was like, tonight I'm listening to this on earphones. And I remember that. No, it's earphones only. That's what John did. Apparently George told us about that. And neither one of them gave a fuck about this album at the year end, except me and you. The entire point of this entire... Four hours and three minutes in now. Well, we're almost there, though. We're getting close. So I'm going to move us on to me. And this is one that I do. 03:52:03.879 --> 03:52:30.960 I remember when George told me about this band. He's having a fit. Will's going to slip a disc in his neck or something here. Poor Ian listening to all the squabbles. Hey man, front row seat to high comedy, right? Yeah, this is half the fun of what it is. And we have this argument a lot. But my number one is one I know George talked about. I couldn't be more sure. And he told me about them. I remember in 2015 because their album made it onto my list that year in 2015. 03:52:31.000 --> 03:53:00.980 I know what it is yeah no secret I love these guys and the album in question at that time was that dim and slime ridden kingdoms this is the band of sludge I don't think I would have found slugs without George at least not at least until esoteric malacology became pretty visible for instance it was indescible but definitely one of one of the ones and I don't even think George like pushed it on me it was just like oh this is really cool that you know like it was like one and I think it was a what are we listening to yeah it's like it's really cool and all there's this great death metal band and all 03:53:01.000 --> 03:53:30.920 They do our songs about slugs and stuff. And I was like, for some reason, I was like, oh, that sounds fucking cool. So I went and checked it out. And I love them. I love that band. You know, it's interesting, Jay, is now you won't stop talking about them. I know. Yeah, well. I know. I know. Well, their last album was pretty bad. It's pretty epic, dude. It's pretty epic, you know, so there you go. So my number one, I kind of ran out of Ann Arbor Music Stores, although I think there was JR's Music also in the mall. 03:53:31.000 --> 03:54:00.280 I think that was JR's or something like that. I think so. Which is where I picked up the legacy. But I didn't realize that until later. But this is a little more formative. But this was mail order. This was from Columbia House Record and Tape Club. So was it white? Wasn't it because it was white on the top and white on the bottom? With the little pink lines. Yeah, I hate that shit. Yeah, man. And that was Black Sabbaths. We sold our soul for rock and roll. Oh, yeah. You've mentioned that before. 03:54:00.320 --> 03:54:30.240 that you got that way. Yeah. Kind of weird. I thought Ordos would be your number one. Should have been. I told me about it and then I told y'all. And then you gave up on it. I'm not telling y'all anything anymore. What you're listening to is go fuck yourself from now on. See, now I'll go listen to that. I have enjoyed my software a little bit. I agree with Will. It's getting late. It is 1.05 a.m. Yeah. And I'm not going to have a beer. Those on the East Coast. 03:54:30.700 --> 03:55:00.300 All right. Well, Ian, thank you for coming on. Yeah. Thanks for joining us. Hey, thanks guys. It was highly entertaining. Thank you. I don't know if I brought anything to the table, but I know one thing I got a lot of homework to do and I took a ton of notes and I really appreciate what you guys are doing. It's awesome. That's great having you on. Thanks for listening to the table. And George is, is the founder of this podcast and super fun to hear some stories from his childhood and stuff, dude. That was awesome. It's fucking great. It was really good. And it's so clear that you work in 03:55:00.440 --> 03:55:30.300 because you're so at ease you were one of the better guests as far as like jumping in and using that mic right man good job you sounded great hey it's hard to get me to shut up so so ian you you understand now we're older like okay metamucil at nine o'clock in the morning make sure you take the whole sample all right and then again at five o'clock in the afternoon like you you got all that right yeah i guess i have my uh number two schedule i'll 03:55:31.600 --> 03:56:00.300 I had my colonoscopy. So I am healthy and clean. Those are fun, aren't they? Everybody go get them. The drug to knock you out was, man, that was great stuff. Dude, no. The best part was the fucking cleaning you out beforehand. Shitting yourself. And you're just sitting there going, oh my God, look at that. There's shit running down my leg because I don't even know I'm shitting myself. I wasn't dead. Wow. Yeah. I kind of knew where I was 03:56:02.520 --> 03:56:29.960 It was just like, oh man, it was bad. It was bad. George playing drums or something? Nah, I was just sitting there and it just starts running down. Oh, geez. Cut out, right? No, hell no. This is good stuff. Let the youngins know what they're in for, man. Colonoscopies. We can't talk about dicks the whole time, but we can't talk about this? Hey, man. We've just crossed the line, man. I'm out of here. Fuck this shit. 03:56:31.100 --> 03:57:00.300 Weenies are okay, but play is out of warrior. It is where it changes his color to a brown helmet. Like, yeah, you're the one who brought it up. Stay safe out there in Hawaii, man. Screaming down, dude, stay safe. Yeah. We're going to batten down the hatches right after this cat. So, all right. All right. Thanks for coming on, man. We'll be in touch. George, as always, man. It's always good. It's been 03:57:00.340 --> 03:57:29.960 Way, way, way, way too long. Yeah, we got to do this more. By the way, George has this habit. If you want to hang out, he will hang out and talk to the guest for like three hours longer. I have done that several times. We need to hang up. We will. I can't do that this time. I got to be up early. Say hi to the guys, John T. and Burrell and those guys if you guys hook up. We'll do. I was like, dude, you should just like fucking come. 03:57:33.619 --> 03:57:35.440 That's a lot. 03:59:06.240 --> 03:59:06.260 Субтитры создавал DimaTorzok