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Hello, dear listeners.

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This is George.

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I hope you're all staying healthy during the pandemic.

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Given that I now find myself at home a lot more and having time to kill,

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I thought it'd be cool to start doing wellness check interviews with some of our favorite podcast guests. I was going to call it Coronavirus Diaries, but as you'll hear in the first interview, I ended up changing it to Coronavirus War Journal as a very heavy nod to the old Punisher War Journal comic book. This installment contains three interviews, one with Trevor from Ashen Horde, one with Keith D from Arctic Sleep, Unearthed Elf, and others, and finally one with Joel Violette of Throssenblatt.

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I hope you enjoy them and I hope to be back soon with more interviews. Cheers. Hello and welcome to the Metalheads podcast. My name is George. This is Will. This is John. And we are joined. Go ahead. That's all. No. I said this is Stevie Nicks. It was an old joke Paul Stanley used to do. Okay. But actually. I'm trying it. Yeah. But actually we've got Trevor from Ash and Horst.

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How are you, sir? Oh, I'm as well as can be expected, being quarantined in my house for three weeks on end now. Indeed. So what we've got here is a new, hopefully shortish for us segment. I was going to call it the Coronavirus Diaries, as I think I mentioned in the last episode, but where I was going to do, or we, short little interviews with a bunch of the artists that we know and love.

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and to basically see how they're weathering all of this. And Markasson pulled me aside and told me that the coronavirus diaries sounded like something 12-year-old girls would do. So I have manly renamed it. And I thought Markasson would like this because of it. I'm stealing this from a comic book. If you're familiar with the comic book character, the Punisher,

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There used to be a series called The Punisher's War Journal. So this is going to be the Coronavirus War Journal. Okay. All right. Okay. In diary form. Yes. So just added the word fuck to it. It would have made it more kind of tough and everything. Exactly. Exactly. Fuck Coronavirus Diaries. There you go. So Trevor was kind enough to be our first subject. And we'll have him first. Yep. Yep.

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Right there. I didn't realize. Patient zero. Honestly, I only agreed to do it when I thought it was going to be the Corona Diaries because I thought I was going to be some sort of like brooding love interest for one of you. So this changes the whole thing. Well, no, you are. Okay. Okay. Good. Hint, hint. It's not me. All right. So first of all, how are you and all of your people during all of this? Is everyone, you know, all of your family and everyone's everybody good?

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everybody well. Yep. Yep. We're doing all right. So it's my wife and I in our what every day seems like much smaller apartment the longer in here. But we're doing okay. It's us and the two dogs and just kind of adjusting to never leaving. It's a little bit bizarre, but we're getting by. Everyone else that we know, family and stuff are all fine. I'm mostly jealous of them because they live in Colorado primarily in big houses that we don't have. So, you know, whereas we have a tiny two bedroom.

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Los Angeles apartment. They are living the life with probably not much interruption, but, you know, as good as it can be.

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How is L.A.? I mean, I know California has a lot of cases. Does L.A. have a lot?

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Yes. Actually, I don't know that L.A. is that bad. I was looking at numbers. So we live in North Hollywood, and we were one of the higher concentrations, apparently. I forget the actual number for all of L.A. County, which is a little, you know, upsetting and off-putting.

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But I don't think it's that bad. I guess, you know, this is going to sound bad and I don't mean to diminish the seriousness of it. But when you look at the actual numbers, however many, you know, thousand or whatever, two thousand it's been in L.A., based on the population of L.A., it's actually a pretty small number. But it's still just it's very bizarre, I think, especially because we don't know who all has it, how many people are, you know, carriers and everything. So. So but you don't know anybody that's come down with it?

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I don't know anyone that has been confirmed as actually having a lot of people think they might have based on symptoms that they've had and have gotten over. Yeah, but no one specifically that has been tested and confirmed. That's good. Here in here in my county, in my my county has seven cases. So. Oh, wow. Yeah, it's it's still pretty. I mean, the states like Montgomery County right next door has a couple hundred, I think. But.

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half an hour. And are you on full lockdown where you are now? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, they're not, they haven't said like National Guard are going to make you go back in your house kind of thing, but everything non-essential is closed and you're supposed to stay home. And guess what, guess what George discovers and classifies as essential? Toilet paper. Motherfuckers out there every day stealing it from the rest of us. I am not. Went out once.

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I have not left the house in five days. Once today. I am going out tomorrow. I'm curious about your diet, though. If you're buying that much toilet paper, I'm assuming the rest of your money is going primarily towards high-fiber foods? No. Mostly music and beer. Mexican takeout. I see. No, we don't have that much toilet paper. Not mountains of it like some people. Not actual pallets.

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of it. No, but we were running pretty low when we went out Sunday and managed to score a couple packages. So hopefully we're good for a couple of months. And hopefully after that, it won't be necessary anymore. But yeah. Get a bidet. So one of my one of my questions was, do you have enough food and toilet paper? That was a life changer for us. Yeah. Yes. But if you have a bidet, toilet paper is barely even a thing. I know I will say, and I know we're getting into the details of my toilet here, which is a strange topic.

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Strange times, my friend.

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We do not, however, exactly.

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We do not have the fancy one with like a fan.

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So I'm thinking I need to get like a small desk fan to mount under it.

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If I do that, toilet paper, no problem.

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We never need it again.

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Nice.

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Now, now.

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Make it a heated fan.

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Now, what about, you know, so.

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One of those little ring fans that like blow heat that you see at Costco.

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So presumably the bidet is near the toilet.

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When I was growing up and I had a bidet, they were right side by side. Now, you have to get up and move from the one to the other. So is there any drippage on the floor there when you're traversing from one to the other? I'm glad you bring this up. So my first bidet experience was in Japan, and we got similar style where it's all in one unit. There's no getting up. It's just got this laser sight that hits you right where it needs to every single time.

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the first experience I'd have with the two, and that was very off-putting. I don't know why anyone wants to, like, kind of slide their way over to another thing just to wash. I don't know. That was very bizarre. Yeah. Yes, this is where we're at now on the podcast. Yep. It is. This is it. I mean, I will have conversations with friends and neighbors that I've never talked about the bathroom at all, and we're all like, man, you got enough toilet paper? Yep. It's like the main thing. So we know your toilet paper

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situation. But how's your food? Are you stocked up enough? Are things open? Can you get stuff? We can. We've been getting takeout a couple times trying to support some of the local restaurants we like. We have actually not been to a store in almost three weeks now. We've been counting on Amazon Target and Ralph's Delivery, which you don't get everything you order, but we've gotten enough. So we're pretty good. That's cool. Yeah, I guess where you are, it's probably pretty easy. I have like two places that deliver.

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to me. A Chinese place and a pizza place.

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And I don't even know if they're open to toilet paper.

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Yeah, we're fortunate in that there are a ton of LA restaurants and they all seem to be delivering.

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So we're fed.

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Not enough to warrant all the toilet paper you have, but we are well fed.

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So Trevor, how's band practice?

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Why do you want to talk about music at a time like this? You know, sometimes I know, right? That's crazy. Hey, listen, I'm gonna get super annoying because I gotta be sober on like every episode we do for a long time. So that's right. So you know, you can never mind. Hey, I'm dry. So whatever we do this, whatever, I'll be dry. Yeah, and you will remember everything. Yeah. So at the mid year, you really, it was really bizarre at the mid year. I'm like, man, I'm at the end. And I remember everything.

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So it's not nearly as funny as it usually is. I want to get I want to get to some music stuff. But before I do, what else are you doing to keep yourself occupied when you're not like, are you telecommuting? Yes. So I'm lucky that my job and my wife's job both were able to work from home. So I am full time doing that. But again, we have a small apartment here in LA. So the situation's been interesting. She basically her office is the dining room.

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Mine is the living room slash the bedroom if I need quiet like if we're both on conference calls so I'm spending a lot of time in bed just on video calls which are always strange but you know you make the most of the situation I guess yeah I will say I'm enjoying all the tele teleconferences though and the video conferences because you get this like nice little view into all these people's homes that you would never have gotten to go to I haven't seen anything weird per se but I'm waiting for it it's going to

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Come. Someone's going to do something weird or have something in the background they wish they didn't have. It's going to be amazing. Is that a love swing in your doorway? Yeah. It's like, wait a sec. Yeah. So I think I mentioned this on our last episode, but my wife learned something at work about about couples having been stuck and having to work remotely together and put up with each other for, you know, endless days.

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And a coping technique that they came up with was to invent an imaginary co-worker that you can blame things on. And so we created a guy named Rufus, and he's been getting yelled at a lot. I bet. Violating HR regulations left and right? Yep. Not closing the refrigerator, leaving laundry on the floor. He's been taking a lot of heat for me. Wow. Yeah.

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So what else are you doing to pass the time then? If you're not working and you're not doing music, what are you doing? Doing a lot of music, luckily. Doing a lot of running. The running has taken on a whole new dimension now too because I can't just like run down the sidewalk and through the park. I'm kind of going to weave back and forth across traffic to not come too close to anybody else. A lot of people do not seem to have any interest in distancing from me, which in the past they did.

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If I would walk down the street at night, people would walk across the street anyway, and now suddenly they want to be in my way, and it's very obnoxious. So a lot of extra exercise, which is, I suppose, good. Otherwise, I am not proud to say that I'm all cut up on 90 Day Fiance and Love is Blind. What else horrible have we been watching? I don't know. Whatever garbage TV we find.

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So back to the music. All right. So have you...

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Well, hey, it all comes together because that is the inspiration for the next Ashen Horde album. It's all about dating in this society. So a lot of clean vocals then. Oh, boy. All clean vocals, only dance beats. It's a whole different thing. Gang singing with a church choir. All right. So what have you been working on? Where are you? I mean, not where are you, but where are you in the process? Because I thought you were working on new music already. I want to back up a second.

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Did we actually even say like the various bands that Trevor's in? I did mention Ash and Horde. Yes. Okay. Yeah, that's the main. But you have you have other here. I'll take. Yes. So Ash and Horde is my main thing. I'll talk about that in a minute. Abhoria is the black metal side band I put together with a couple people. We finished our record. Oh, gosh, sometime last year. Signed to Transcending Obscurity for that. It's done. The album artwork's done.

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We got Adam Burke to do this really awesome painting for the cover. And it's all in the hands of the label. And now it's kind of like, I don't know when it's going to come out because sales are through the toilet everywhere. I think a lot of release dates are getting pushed. So we're just, I guess, waiting in line to see Hope Things Turn Around and that record comes out because I'm really happy with it. Yeah, I don't get the pushing release dates. I saw that, who was it? Who was the band that pushed it back to the fall? Enslaved. Enslaved, yeah. I'm like,

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People need music.

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I mean, I guess I could see if like you're in the process of recording and the recording studio shuts down or but if it's already done and it's in the hands of the record label company, I mean, almost everything at this point is digital anyway.

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So is it that if you're getting CDs, if they want to release a CD at the same time?

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I mean, I'm still able to buy stuff.

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Actually, I'm buying more stuff on band cameras.

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I got more time on my hands.

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Yeah.

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I'm thinking it has something to do with them touring. If they rescheduled their tour to the fall, I wonder if they want to release the album at the fall time to kind of have a bang splash at the same time. I don't know. I'm just because I believe in Slaves Deal is also label influence, wasn't it? I'm sure. Yeah, I mean, they were fine with it, but I think that was the push. So I wonder if it has to do with touring and I don't know. Is there any mail restrictions in other countries?

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But I have heard sales have dropped. I think people just aren't buying because they're not sure what their financial future is going to look like in the next few months. So like you, like you, Will, I've been probably buying more because I'm like stuck here. I'm like, great, I'm going to buy everything that I have been holding up buying. But I guess not everyone's in that spot. So yeah, so let's see. I hope it comes out. I mean, but on that front, we've already written the music for the second album and are starting to work on demos for that.

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because we thought by the time we get to that it'll be a year later

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whatever now I guess we'll just keep going

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forward so well I have to say

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someday I am the one track

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you guys released already for

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I really really loved it and

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I'm looking forward to this album

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if it has no clean singing

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there is a teeny tiny bit of

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clean singing in one part of one

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song but

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you can fast forward you can

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skip over that part maybe what we'll do is we'll

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We'll release a will edit of the song where we just turn the vocals off for that part. But then every song has children singing in it, right? Like an exclusive edit. Yeah. It's all children singing. I feel like I feel like I feel like I feel like it's all children's choirs. Yeah. As long as not kids singing, that's at least better. But I almost feel like it's kind of funny is I'd actually been adamant about this project with the other guys. I was like, I don't want any clean singing on this. It's not that it's a kind of thing.

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And our vocalist Wally had kind of messed with some sump, but when he sent it over, I was kind of like, damn, that actually works. So I caved, but I will continue to fight for No Clean Singing on this second album. Thank you. It's funny, after we had that conversation at Decibel Metal and Beer Fest a couple years ago, Trevor, that I always feel like there's this, it's just all imaginary in my head, and I feel like when you guys, when Ashton Horner put out their, what was it, a 4-5,

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song. Kind of like an EP. Yeah. Intriguing. Yeah. Yeah. And I was like, I'm waiting for it. I'm like, listen to the song one. Like, oh, no clean singing. This is awesome. Song two. One down. Oh, no clean singing. I'm getting all excited. But in the back of my mind, like it's coming. I know it's fucking coming. He's like, song three, the torture cycle. There's definitely no clean singing on that. And then you get through it. And then when you get to

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Do. Fucker, you did it to me, man. Fucking killing me with the clean singing on that one. That's how it works, man. I was like, yeah, he's going to be so happy and then boom, right in the nuts. I did that for you. That's what I'm saying. In my head, after that conversation, this is what goes through my mind. Like, he's going to do it. He's going to do it. It's like right in the nuts. Like, oh, man. So since I've got you both here, I want to be clear. Is it clean vocals in general in this music that you dislike? Or do you just hate Trevor's

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Yeah, that's actually, that's a great fucking question. Is it just him? Does he not sing well enough for you? This feels like a throwdown. Yeah, that was my point. Because I know you listen to, you love Chemist, that's almost all clean vocals. So what gives, man? I honestly don't, like with Ash and Horde, because it's brutal black metal, there's some melodic stuff in there, but then like, when the

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When clean singing comes in, it just doesn't fit. To me, it just doesn't fit. I'm being brilliant. I told Trevor all this in person. If he didn't beat me up, then he's surely not going to do it all the way 3,000 miles away. Oh yeah, that's why. It's not because I look like this and you look like that. I'm not beating much of anybody down. I'm sorry. So it's not that you just hate his vocals. You just don't feel that clean vocals fit the style the way you want them to.

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Yeah, like every now and again, it's okay. Like, you know, when I listen to the New Temple of War. So like one song out of four, it's okay. Well, it's not necessarily okay. Every now and again, or is the percentage still too high? Like, to me, black metal and clean vocals are just kind of, that is just kind of weird. It just, it just. What about, God, fucking Emperor, we're doing it on Anthems to the Walking Dead. Yeah, I don't listen to Emperor. And enslaved stuff. I don't listen to enslaved. It's everywhere.

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Yeah. No, not at all. It's okay. They're not brittle enough for you. Yeah. No. All right. Well, are you doing anything with Ashen Horde? Are you working on any music there? Yeah. So, um, and what a perfect transition because we can talk vocals. Yeah. So the fourth Ashen Horde record is about 90% done at this point.

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All the guitars and drums are done. It's the first full album that

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Robin Stone played drums on and he really did an amazing job on that. Bass, the first four songs are done and then what you mentioned

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Will earlier, the studio he's been recording at is now closed for the time being so bass is on hold for the moment. Stevie has knocked out, he just sent me the vocals for the fifth song out of, we're doing ten altogether including a cover. So he's doing that but luckily

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Stevie records at his own studio so he's not really impacted by all this so uh he's got yeah four more to go and he's been tearing through them so the record should be done and ready to hand off to the studio as soon as they're able to open up and start working again cool are you doing any cool there are clean vocals i'm sorry i won't tell you where they are they are tasteful and uh they are not on every song i can say that much i will wear my cup and wait for it

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You said there's a cover. Can you tell us what it is? Or are you going to hold on to that for now? Yeah. Yeah, no, no. I think I mentioned this at some point. I'm even going to look at this. It's sitting right next to me. So this is Therapy's new Greatest Hits record. It is a therapy song called Knives off of their Trouble Gum album. Cool. We took some kind of Irish, you know, angry 90s punk and metallized it. And I think it turned out really cool. Clean vocals, huh? No clean vocals on that one.

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Wait, you waited for a 90s Irish punk cover song to do clean vocals? It works, man. It's all about the, we gotta keep people on their toes. I don't wanna do anything obvious. I can't wait to hear the ballad dedicated to Will on the next album. So I just got a text from Jay who was gonna join us but was delayed.

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said that John BT is sick and he's pretty sure that he's got coronavirus and his daughter is sick too. They're waiting for their test results. I just saw that on Facebook. I wasn't sure if he was being serious, but it seems like it is. Yeah, it's really awful. So obviously all our best to John BT and his family. Definitely. Yes. Get well, friend. So yeah, that would be the first person I personally would know to have this. I mean, my neighbor's parents have it, but they live up

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New Jersey. I know someone who knows someone who died. But I don't know the person. Wow. Yeah. That's awful. Wow. Yeah. John, do you know anybody? Not yet. No. That's good. So. Yeah, it's actually kind of bizarre, right? Based on how much it's talked about. Like, I'm not saying I want to know anyone that has it. I'm happy that everyone I know is safe, but seemingly until now. But it's kind of weird. It feels like.

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based on how much you hear about it, that you would know tons of people with it at this point. Yeah. I wonder how many people have had symptoms that they can handle more than others that we know and that they've already gone through the cycle and didn't even know it. I'm just, I'm sure that's, that's what happened. I did the math the other night. Aren't they saying even something like 80% of people are like have, you know, memorable symptoms, if any. So it's kind of weird. Yeah. A lot of us could have had it and not even known.

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Yeah. I did a math the other night and compared to the U.S. population, it's like.00004,.0004% of the population has it right now confirmed. But you could probably double that, the amount of people who have it just haven't been tested yet. Or more. Yeah, but it's still such a small fraction. But I guess, you know, obviously the problem is you don't social distance and it's going to go like 4%. And then of that 4%, right now, the U.S.

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death rate or was a couple days ago was right around like 4% which is actually high. Yeah. And that's what pisses me off so much is the people just not taking it seriously and not distancing and like yeah I don't love doing it either but you know I've seen all these kids on the beaches and they've had to close a couple hiking trails and parks here in LA because you'd think it was any other weekend even the park I jogged by by our house I went and people are out playing frisbee and you know just meeting and

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And you can tell it's not like families that happen to move all together and go there. So it's really disappointing to see that. Yeah. People are stupid. Yeah, in our block, we've kind of modified social distancing that since our kids have been playing with each, like, you know, there's three or four sets of family that have kids right on my block. It's in a small block. But they've all been playing with each other since this started. And no one is sick. So we just don't let any other kids from outside the block.

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come in it's like we know our little tribe here don't come in and our kids can't go out to go play with anyone else it's like because i mean we're at home trying to home i'm trying to homeschool two kids and do what i can to still keep up i mean all the shows that the atlas are canceled so it's like there ain't a whole lot to do you know and we had some really good ones coming up like necrot um and fed it was gonna play and um we had a bunch of them right

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I've been looking to see them live anywhere, let alone my own brewery. So yeah, things are slowed down. So I'm just trying to do what I can to stay busy at home, homeschool two kids. Are you guys able to still actually brew during all this? What's happening on that front? Yeah, there's still some of that going on. But of course, here's the thing with, I don't know if I said this on the last podcast, but

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So Atlas is in D.C., Washington, D.C.

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D.C. Breweries, most of, so Washington, D.C.

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as a whole, because it's a city, most cities are like this, that breweries sell

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like 75% of their product in kegs at bars and restaurants on draft.

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And then the other 25% is packaged and bought in stores.

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And so with all the bars and restaurants closed, it's impacting breweries and cities more.

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If you're a package brewery, and you can still send it out to grocery stores, and people are still going to grocery stores to buy beer, wherever they buy their beer, you know, beer stores, state stores, whatever, that you're not going to be as affected. So, I mean, that's just the reality. And then, because you rely also on your taproom sales, the taprooms are closed, so it's only, it's takeout only. So it's takeout beer in can only. You're not filling growlers, like there's no exchange of growlers or anything.

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So yeah, it's pretty fucked up. And we're, we're supposed to open on opening day, which is like in a couple of days from now, opening day for baseball, we're supposed to open up our second location right by nationals park. And it's still scheduled, still scheduled to open, but you know, all the money we just sank into that. It's like, you know, I guess we'll sell cans of beer out of that. That's packaged at the other brewery.

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Yeah, it's rough.

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So, getting back to music, before we go on, was there anything else you wanted to say about what you've been doing, what you've been working on?

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Let's see. No, so I have a Warrior record, other Warrior record, Ash and Horde albums, all good. And also during quarantine, so this is, yeah, my third week home, I guess, I have managed to churn out most of the writing for a Thrash album I've wanted to do for a while.

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So I've got like about 10 or 11 songs essentially written. Now I've just got to find some people to play on it. I guess from afar again, because obviously I'm not going to get a band together. Yeah. But it's like straight up kind of beneath the remains. Oh, and early Testament era thrash. Nice. I don't know. I should be careful. I don't know if it's as good as that, but that was my inspiration, that vibe. So yeah. Yeah. You know, I was just thinking about the new order.

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after listening to the New Testament album.

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And I was like, I missed the Testament's New Order.

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Like that just raw, sort of slightly darker thrash.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Disciples of the Watch.

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I listened to the new one.

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What's your take on it?

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You guys probably already covered it on the podcast.

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I have not listened to it yet.

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It's pretty good.

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I had ordered the Japanese Deluxe.

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I was waiting for that, but it's good.

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Yeah, it's pretty good.

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I like it.

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I like it.

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I guess for me.

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Like the last couple.

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Yeah, like I guess for me, like in their newer era stuff, like they have Dark Roots of the Earth. And then I forget the name of the last one. And then they had Formation of Damnation, which I thought was like one of their best albums in 10 years. But I still go back to like the New Order as like the absolute best Testament's ever been. And that's funny because I'm very much of the Gathering is, I think, the peak Testament record for me. And I know this may be.

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But I think Low is probably number two. Aren't those like the James Murphy albums? I actually peaked with the James Murphy era. I think that was really the peak for them. Is The Gathering the one where he did almost all slight death metal vocals for most of it? Or is that Demonic? Demonic was like that. Gathering was mostly like that, but then added a little of the old stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I do like those albums a lot. Yeah. And since last episode, we were talking about,

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Holt and the Death Angel drummer, but now Chuck Billy and his wife both have coronavirus as well, so hopefully they are doing well and recovering as well. I'll be honest, they are all on that same tour, and I'm surprised that we've only heard those names at this point. I mean, that was three bands packed together touring Europe. I know someone who worked on that tour, but I haven't heard

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her say anything about what happened. I wouldn't think that she would, but

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I'm just surprised it hasn't been more people. Unless they're just not.

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Right. At the rate it spreads, it's not surprising. You're right. It's like if they all happen to be in the same room or

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place for very long, that's not surprising they would all get it.

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Who was doing the webinars from that tour? The behind the scenes? I can't remember. I saw some stuff

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where he was just backstage, you know, during the day, early in the day, you know, where they were all just kind of milling around doing their own thing. And I'm like, there's five or six people from all three bands just sitting around talking and doing stuff. And so, again, I'm surprised, but it's good. I'm actually happy then if that's the case, even though I'm kind of bummed about people who do have it. So. Hey, Trevor, by any chance is your employer listening to this podcast? Unlikely. No.

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But they could. So I'm going to say whatever you're about to say, think about it twice before you do. I was just going to say you've just completed a thrash album. You just completed a new Ashen Horde album. You just completed an Abhoria album. And I'm wondering, are you actually doing any work? Said the guys that are doing a bunch of podcasts. I am very efficient. There's 24 hours in a day. Exactly. There's a lot more time to do things.

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Also, I'll tell you what really helps is one, not having a band, like working remotely, playing remotely. I don't have to worry about anybody else showing up on time, learning their stuff. I just work at my own pace. That helps. And not that I don't like playing with other people, but that helps. And then my wife works in the theater, so she often has like late nights and weekends. Any minute she's not in the house, I'm working on music. That is my, like, there is no other option. And that is just what I do. So I'll do eight hours, two weekend days in a row.

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and do nothing but pick. So that's my secret to my... I'm not actually very prolific, but I force it so it happens. So on our last episode, we did our top five albums that we would like to have with us in a government quarantine for the pandemic lockdown, blah, blah, blah. Now, as I can see behind you there, you have quite a few more than five albums with you. But if the CDC...

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to be in this room and I'm good.

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If the CDC was to show up at your door and be like, all right, you've got, you can grab five albums in a pair of underwear and then we're dragging you out of here. Uh, what would you bring with you?

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Or you can, you can put five underwear in one album.

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I'm looking around for inspiration. Like what are my five that I would just grab and go? Um, probably should have given you that ahead of time. Okay. That's okay. That's okay. I can do this.

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Just give me one more second to glance. CDC won't give you time to think about it, so neither will we. Yeah, so clearly no one can see what we're on Skype, so we can see what's behind you. And it looks a lot like John's room, where it's just like stacks and stacks, which I'm assuming are... CDs. Are they tapes? CDs. These are all CDs. I've got all four walls are just... Right, so what's funny is we're looking behind you and seeing CDs, but when we're looking at you, you're looking up in front of you, so there must be even more up there.

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Yes. Oh, yeah. Here. I know no one on the cast can see this, but I'll turn my computer around here, so you'll see, like, the other wall all the way up and down. And you've got, here's the actual recording setup. There's more over here. There's more here. All the way over there. So, yeah. I think you might have more than I do. Hey, I'm more than John and George combined. I have not actually counted, so I don't know, but it's pretty ridiculous.

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You still buy them though, right? So choosing five out of this is going to be interesting. Yeah. Okay. Let's see if I can do this. I'm just going to, these are probably going to be shocking because at least three of them are not particularly medley, I guess. So I'm going to say I would take Def Leppard's High and Dry. Nice. I like that. Good. Earth versus the Wild Hearts by the Wild Hearts. I would take,

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God, this is hard.

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Whatever I don't take, I'm going to miss.

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I would probably take Caius' Sky Valley.

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I would need at least one enslaved record, and I don't know how to pick.

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I'm going to say, based on today's mood, Axioma, Ethicali, and...

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Say Black Album. Say Black Album.

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Oh, God, no. I think you'd actually pay me to take that. I know that was going through Will's head. It was like, don't say Black Album. Don't say Black Album. No, believe me, that was never an option. This is hard. Like, what's the last one? They're coming to drag you away. Better make a choice.

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I'm glad you brought out the silence. Yeah, we're going to leave it in for effect. Yeah. He's just going to copy it over a few times. He's going to make it drag it out even longer. All right. This is going to go up like 20 minutes. I've been into it lately. Yeah, I know. I'm going to do it like Monty and Feather. Five, four, three, two, one. Good night, night, night, night, night, night, night. I think I'll say Sound of White Noise.

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I know that's a controversial anthrax pick. Yes, it is. I fucking love that record. And that's what I'm going with. All right. I'm probably going to regret all these choices, but at this moment in time, there you go. Five records. Well, that's what you're going to be stuck with for a few months. So. I know. I better be. I hope I have like the expanded edition of all these. So I have all the bonus tracks and stuff. Yeah. When we were doing it, Jay kept picking like live albums that had like, you know, 30 songs on there. As many songs as possible. Yeah. Yeah.

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Oh, if that were an option, I would have just started picking box sets like the complete. Yeah. Yeah. So what, you know, with all this free time and being at home or at least not necessarily free time, but just being home, you know, I would expect you probably listening to music while you're working and things like that. What do you, what have you been listening to? Yeah. It's funny. I've been working more than I feel like even in the office, not actually more, but like very intensely. But let's see, what have I been listening to? I'm looking at,

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the vinyl by my feet here of stuff I've been picking up. I've been listening to a lot of Sepultura. I really liked Quadra. I wasn't sure what to think of it originally, but I've actually grown to love it. And of course, whenever I listen to new Sepultura, I have no choice but to go back and listen to Arise and Beneath the Remains and Schizophrenia repeatedly. Basically up until Chaos AD, and then I do not give a fuck about Roots or most everything else. So a lot of that. I've really been digging the new Chulis record.

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Old Old Death. Very, very cool. Black and Roll. I thought of you when that came out. Oh, yeah. It was all me. New Eson EP I like a lot. Telemark is cool. What else have I had on the playlist? Have you picked up the last four Dio records remastered? No, but I've heard they sound amazing. Yeah, I got all four of them. They're pretty good. Yeah.

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I should. Did they have all the bonus stuff from the last batch of reissues? Or is it like a different? What do they do with that? There's a second disc I think that has a whole bunch of bonus stuff on it, yeah. Live stuff, mostly, I think. Have you heard Chemist do Rainbow in the Dark? I have not. Yeah, yeah. They sent me to check that out. Yeah, they're getting ready to put out an EP in like two weeks or so. But that's out.

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Is it straight or is it totally reimagined? Are you familiar with Chemist? Because they do it in their style. I grew up in Colorado. They do it in their style, so it's very Chemist-y. You can hear that song already and it's pretty awesome. Right? That's cool. I'm not a fan of covers often because I want to hear the song. I was listening to the original because usually that's what I like more, but their version actually is very

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I like it a lot. Okay, great. So yeah, I think we all like it. Jay probably hates it though. No, even Jay said on the last episode, he was like, don't tell him I said this, but it's pretty good. Jay's that guy who shows up on the form just to piss everybody off. That's what Jay does with chemists. He's their troll. I'm not like super into them, but I certainly respect what they do. And yeah, being from Colorado, I guess I feel some sort of weird kinship to them. So I

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We'll definitely check that out. The only Dio cover that comes to mind when I think about it that I really enjoyed was Otig did Holy Diver a while back. And that's kind of a full metal side project of Vinterzorg. And it's cool, but weird. I'll have to look that up. Oh, that's shit. I was like, what else have I been listening to? I have been just obsessed with the entire Vreed back catalog. And I already love them. Yeah. But like, that has just been

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on endless repeat. The other thing I'd recommend is this band called Medium. They're on Transcending Obscurity. Something, yeah. Like Crust Grind. It's not a very long record, but it is really cool. That has not left my iPod. Yeah, I picked that up. That was very cool. Oh, I was going to say, what's your favorite? The non-metal side of me has been really into the Black Crows lately. I'm a big Black Crows fan. It's kind of hard to handle.

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It is

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Their drummer wrote

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A little

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Autobiography thing

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About his life

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With the Robinson brothers

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And whoo

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I am surprised

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They managed to do

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Anything ever

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They are a total train wreck

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Wow

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All the time

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And it was

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Fascinating read

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Hey Trevor

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Just real quick

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What's your take on him

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Because I find

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Everything he says

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Seems to be sensible

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I don't find him to be

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Like a nut job

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Just out there

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Just to talk shit

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He

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He doesn't really downplay his time with them. He just really doesn't like those guys. It sounds like. No, that's exactly how I came out of that book. I was like, this is a guy who was just in that situation and was pretty much reporting it as it happened. And like, I'm mostly impressed that he was able to hang around as long as he did. Because I think that seems like agony. It was, it was he part of their, I don't know if they had like a corporate structure type setup for how they receive royalties, but he was one of the most important things.

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Wasn't he one of the three, I think, in that? So that's why he was there for so long. Yeah. I don't want to read it. I mean, I'm sure money talks. You can dismiss a lot of stuff when you're getting paid, but I'm sure they were getting paid at that point. But still, man, that would be a tough place to be. Yeah, they give the Oasis brothers, the Gallagher brothers, a run for their money. Oh, yeah. He even comments on that. I think they toured with them, and he said they were actually, like, easier to deal with than the Robinson brothers. Like, wow. That's insane.

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You know, to sort of tangent off of the Gallagher brothers, I just watched a documentary about Michael Hutchins from In Excess. What's it called? Mystify, I think. And there was a scene in the documentary towards the end of In Excess, Michael Hutchins presented an award to Oasis when the

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for like Wonderwall, like when they were first blowing up. And he was like, oh, the board goes to Oasis. And they come up and is Liam the singer? Liam's the singer? Yeah. And he comes up to the microphone and he's like, has-beens shouldn't be giving awards to fucking Will-Bees or whatever, something like that. Wow. And just totally shit in his mouth. And I was like, that is just, you know, I mean, I've always been a like take him or leave him Oasis kind of guy. But I was like, I saw that. I was like, you're a fucker.

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Fuckin' dick, dude. Considering how big InXS was at that point in their career. Yeah. Worldwide. Yeah. You gotta kind of respect the balls to say something that douchey in front of everyone. It's like, whew, that could backfire. The funny thing is, guess who's the has-been now? Yeah. Where is Oasis? I could give a shit about them. I guess it better be a dead has-been than a live has-been. True that. Wow.

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Well, at one point, those brothers will kill each other. So, I mean, it's coming. Yeah. Yeah, that's probably true, actually. They fight on stage, you know, so. I want to go back to the Vreed thing. Which one's your favorite? Which album by them? At this moment in time, probably Milorg. Is that how you say it? Okay. Assuming the pronunciation's right. I think that record and what was E. Craig was,

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Before or After, I've Lost Order, those two are just fantastic about the, what is it, the Norwegian, like, um, it was that group, they were kind of like the Norwegian Resistance Army or whatever they, I don't remember what they were called, um, but the albums are kind of about them and that's, they're really fascinating and I, I love Life Hunger, I think it is fantastic, it was probably one of my top albums whatever year that came out. Sweet. Yeah, I like them a lot. How about you? Yeah. Yeah, I like them. What's the one? The, Five, whatever.

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they want to call it that's probably my favorite yeah so all right they're all solid and uh yeah that was they came out of the ashes of vendor right wasn't that yes yes indeed who i also loved um that was a weird one when he just like it's rare to hear about someone that kind of just goes for a hike and gets stuck in the snow and ends up dying out there yep it was really brutal and awful but also kind of metal in a way yep

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All right. Does anybody else have any other questions? We got to think of something quick because we've been on less than an hour and my wife is convinced it's going to go on for three hours. That ain't happening, buddy. This is like walking out of Target with less than $50 worth of stuff, right? It's not okay. Yeah, yeah. Oh, I just got to get milk. Definitely $100 later. Well, we could do a lot we're listening to and some news.

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And we could stretch this puppy out. Oh, we should do a quick one. Trevor did one. We should do one real quick. A one what? Do it. What we're listening to. All right. What you're listening to. Fair enough. I can list, like, all the numerous things that I'm supporting the metal community with what I bought on Bandcamp. You need to do a off-the-cuff lightning round, man. You're supposed to do that. Oh, yeah. Oh, buddy.

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Hold on, wait, I may have an old one. Soap or hand sanitizer? Hold on. He doesn't give a shit about this because he doesn't like it in Slaves, but have you guys seen this tape box set of In Slaves early albums? The Army of the North Star that Darkness Shall Rise released? I do not collect tapes. This box set is fucking beautiful. Huh. Yeah, I saw that. Do you have anything to play it on? It's really cool.

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How far does it go up to hell? No, I do not. Trevor? Yeah, no, it's up through Frost. I think I'm reminding you. Yeah, it's Igrosil. I'm going to try to pronounce these Vikings, Igrosil, Hordain's Land and Frost. Yeah, the first two demos, yeah. It's got a really nice book and all these recreations of old posters and stuff inside. It's just really, really well done. All right, I think I can come up with one pretty quick if you want to do a lightning round, Trevor.

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Sure. Let's find out what happens. You got to say them quick, though. The last time we had, we had. You've done one of these, haven't you? You did one. I have done one, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I think this is leftover from another one. I just happen to have it on my phone. So, since I know you a little bit, I can tailor it more toward you. Like, I won't ask you beer or wine, because I know you don't drink. But I can ask you. You ready to go? Let's try it.

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Coke or Pepsi? Coke. Cat or dog? Dog. Missionary or dog style? You've been asked that one before. Missionary. Clean or harsh vocals? Oh, man. Hi, clean. Clean vocals are ape-ass raping. Clean vocals.

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I don't know what your answer would be. It would not be the same. The things Will will do for his art. Action movie or horror movie? Horror. French fries or tater tots? Tater tots. Beyond Burger or Impossible Burger? Impossible Burger. Game of Thrones or Walking Dead? Walking Dead. Black Album or Ape Ass Rape? I think we had this one last time.

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I ask everybody. I'm going to say blackout. Just once I want somebody to say ape-ass rape. Yeah. Testament or Exodus? Testament. Seasons in the Abyss or Rust in Peace? Rust in Peace. Winter Olympics or Summer Olympics? Neither anymore. Summer Olympics. Ozzy or Dio? Ozzy. Iron Maiden Book of Souls or ape-ass rape?

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I haven't even listened to that record so

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Ape Ass Rape I haven't experienced that it sounds okay let's go with it

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and last but not least Five Finger Death Punch or Ape Ass Rape

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oh man I'd say they're equal I don't think there's a winner there

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it'd be a very small ape because you know it's your first time very small ape

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because we love you we'll let there be a tie

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Right. Thank you. Great. All right. I'll tell you a funny story, and I'm not going to reveal who the members are, lest they want to remain anonymous. But two of the guys in Abhoria were originally slated to be in Five Finger Death Punch. The guy, what's the main Five Finger guy? I forget his name. Which one? The singer? Ivan? Yes. Ivan. He had a previous

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And they were kind of jamming with him. And he had these grand visions of what he wanted to do or whatever and moved away and everything. And they were like, no, we're out. But that ended up being Five Finger Death Punch. So two members of Abhoria almost could have been superstars in one of the worst bands on Earth. Yeah. They have. John, didn't we see Five Finger Death Punch with Gojira or something like that? Am I making this up? No. When you and I saw Gojira,

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I swear I saw five-figure death punch open up for it. It was like Ram's Head and they were opening up or maybe it was ninth. I don't know. I know 36 crazy fists opened for him once. Maybe that's what I'm thinking of. I don't know. It was like somebody had like one song. Yeah, yeah, maybe that's what it is. But I remember whatever band it was that had like one song that like everyone else like zoned out until they played that one song and then everyone zoned out again.

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And the lead singer got really upset. He was really butthurt by it. I would say 36 Crazy Fists is a lot better than Five Finger Death Punch. A little bit, yeah. I mean, they're not like awesome, but they're definitely better. I thought you meant just in general, like, would you rather one Five Finger Death Punch or 36 Crazy Fists coming at you? Or a pass rape. The trifecta of horrible.

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All right, well, are we going to do some of what we're listening to or what? We can do it real quick. I mean, mine will be quick. Yeah, I'll just read off some of my Bandcamp stuff. Yeah, that's what I was going to do. Less than 30. You guys go ahead while I get mine out and I'll do it last. All right. All right, well, I'll go then. So I just picked this up today. I think I saw Decibel tweeted this out or something. It's a, I think they're finished. It's a finished Death Doom.

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I already mentioned Left Cross, Slime Lord Blurring on the last one.

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So yeah, just,

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and then I,

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I think I mentioned also,

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I got all the DO,

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the last four DO records on vinyl.

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Cool.

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Magica,

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Master of the Moon and all those.

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All right.

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I don't have any background on most of these,

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but I'll just run through them because I'm just going through my band camp list.

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I got Disembowels,

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Echoes of Terror.

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That's a death metal one.

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Band called Video Nasties and their album Dominion.

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They're likened to a death metal thing, but like a John Carpenter kind of horror movie theme to it. A band called Putrid and their album Antichrist Above. Another one that I know it's a death metal band, Voorhees Chapter 2. It's just death metal stuff. I picked up the Temple of Void. Named after Lark Voorhees from, what's she on, Saved by the Bell? Yeah, exactly. To play Lisa Turtle? Yeah, it's probably Jason Voorhees. Yeah.

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Thanks. Yeah, I just want to make sure you get the Captain Obvious hat today. Obviously, I picked up Temple of Voids, The World That Was, that's coming out tomorrow. But I also got the Four Doors to Death 2, which is a couple tracks that they had from something else. Life Takers, Night Intruder, Then Comes Silence, their new album Machine. That's more of a post-rock Sisters of Mercy-ish kind of gothy thing. Which leads me to the next one.

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a band called Photo Crime, which is photo with an F, not a PH. And their originally titled album South of Heaven, never heard that one before. Oh, I saw that on Bandcamp. And the album before that, Principle of Pain by the same band. And this is very also like a Sisters of Mercy meets Psychedelic Furs meets Nine Inch Nails kind of thing. It's pretty cool. I picked up Black Curse, Endless Wound, the new black metal band featuring

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Zach from Chemist and some other folks. The Wake album also coming out tomorrow, Devouring Ruin. A couple albums from, I don't know if you'd call it, I guess you'd say The Worm, but it's WVRM. They've got a new album coming out, but I picked up the previous ones, Heartache and Swarm Sound. Two more. Band called The Bleeding, death metal band, albums called Morbid Prophecy, and another death metal band called Depraver, Suffering,

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in the coffin.

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There you go.

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Cool.

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I don't have as much as you because I didn't know we were doing a regular episode.

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I didn't either.

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I just made that shit up.

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Oh, you made it.

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Oh, so those aren't real bands.

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No, I'm saying I just pulled it off of my phone instead of a list like I normally do.

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Death metal band name generator just reads off.

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Yeah, exactly.

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All right.

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So mine's real short.

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We've mentioned Temple.

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Oh, yeah, we know.

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Yeah.

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Well, all right.

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Let's stick to the music part.

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So Temple of Void, a band I never heard of because I didn't know the previous band, but it's called, I guess, Sweevin. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. The Eternal Resonance. That's the dude from another band, Morbis Kron. Morbis Kron, yeah. And that's actually the name of the last album they did is the name of this band. So Porcupine Tree finally put all their stuff onto Bandcamp. Not all their stuff, but they're putting stuff on Bandcamp. So I've been picking up a bunch of rare shows on there that I had.

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unofficially for years, but now they're official. So I picked them up there. And then a bunch of single songs. I could pull up Bandcamp here. So this Cryptic Shift I'd never heard of before. Yeah, I've got that on my want list. Yeah, there's a song from Sorcerer. It just came out. Sojourner has a new song, Green Carnation. So stuff like that. Not much. Because I've been spending a lot of time getting ready for our next episode that we're going to record in a few days.

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Two days from now. So I've been listening to a lot of stuff and going back and forth and changing my selections. So. Yeah. Right on. That's it. Yeah. Not much. All right. Well, I guess by my by my recorder, we're just under an hour and probably at least five minutes of that is garbage that was before we even started. So we're doing well. Just sitting there staring at CDs thinking, what is number five?

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Who is number one? All right. Well, I guess we're done. Thanks for coming on. Thanks. I guess we're done. I hope you stay well. Most of my dates you stay in. I guess we're done. But before we go, for all that music buying public out there that is apparently not buying music as much as you are,

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we are.

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But in case they want to go pick up some of your stuff, where can they go find you?

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Yeah, do it, please.

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Bandcamp's the best.

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Actionord.bandcamp.com.

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Pick up Fallen Cathedrals on vinyl and CD, Tintrigan on vinyl, all of our old shit.

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I'd be happy to risk my life by going to the post office and dropping off tons of packages.

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So do it.

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Right on.

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All right.

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Well, thanks for coming on, Trevor.

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And like I said, stay well.

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And, you know, we'll talk to you soon. Yeah, dude. Stay safe. Take it easy. Hello, and welcome to the Metalheads Podcast. My name is George. This is John. And we are joined by Keith D. From Arctic Sleep, Unearthed Elf, and a number of other projects. How are you doing today, Keith? I'm all right, man. First off, how are you and everyone you know doing? Is everyone well?

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I guess. Yeah. Like physically so far. Yeah. But yeah. But yeah. It's fucking, fucking depressed, man. Big time. Yeah. So you don't know anybody that's sick then. That's, that's good. Not yet. Not yet. Won't surprise me, you know, when it happens though. Yeah. I'm a pessimist. Expect the, you know, prepare for the worst.

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and hope for the best is my motto. Given the current situation, is that more pessimism or just being a realist? You know, the law of averages are going to play out in this at some point. Yeah. You know, I think it's realism leaning on pessimism for sure. Fair. Well, yeah, because then once it happens, then you just figure the whole world's just going to blow up on top of it. Right. Yeah. Yeah. I have a shitty attitude. And then you'll be that one dude like 15 years later out in the middle of the desert by himself.

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There's just no one left on planet Earth. What the fuck? So how's the pandemic messing with your daily life? I mean, I know you're not able to work remotely. You actually have to go into work. Yeah, yeah. I'm still going out in the world since my day job is considered, you know, an essential position. So, yeah, it's weird. I actually kind of appreciate still being able to get out and about.

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and everything.

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But it I mean, it just fucking sucks.

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You know, like my like all it feels like like all my favorite types of fun have just gone down the shitter.

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You know, like my favorite things to do are to travel.

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You know, I like to go to Europe twice a year.

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And I love going to rock concerts, of course.

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And I love going out to eat and drink.

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and you can't do any of those things right now. So it's like all fun has just been zapped out of life for me. Exactly. And it has for a lot of people, you know, some of them even worse. So since you have to go out, do you take any special precautions? Do you wear a mask or gloves or, you know, I know, I know somebody whose daughter has to go out to work at a pharmacy and when she comes home from work, they like make her go into the garage.

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and decontaminate before she comes into the house. Do you do anything?

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Yeah, you know, I do work in the, I guess you could say the public health sector. So, you know, the areas that I have to go for work, you know, I'm never far from a handwashing sink and, you know, having a little bit of knowledge of microbiology is part of what I do.

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So, you know, I've been preaching handwashing for since before it was cool. And, but yeah, you know, just, just trying to have a lot of common sense and keep it in practice like usual. Yeah. Awesome. Well, I hope that you are able to do your job and stay well. So, so far, so good, man. Yeah. So what's your little area of the world like? I mean, is it,

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Is it pretty shut down? And like, how are the stores and stuff? Do you have enough food and toilet paper and all that? Dude, these people need to fucking stop it with the toilet paper, seriously. And everything else, you know, I mean, geez. Yeah, you know, I am out in the world throughout the day. And I've, it's, it's bizarre. There's, I'm enjoying how much less traffic there is. That's great. I was gonna ask, I was gonna ask you if there were, if there's just that binder silver lining.

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Driving around. You know, I, uh, it's. Sorry, go ahead. Sorry. Um, it's, it's like a dream come true. Uh, you know, driving around. I mean, that part, I'm like, wow, I could get used to this. If there's any silver lining, I really enjoy, uh, you know, there being less traffic. But the thing I've noticed is that there's a lot less traffic, but the people that are on the road are driving a lot fucking crazier. I don't know if that's just a Wisconsin thing.

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or what, but there's less traffic on the road, but the people that are on there are driving like it's Mad Max Fury Road or some shit. I was just going to say it's like Mad Max out there now. Everyone's got a big old bus. It's more dangerous. I had to go into the office on Friday to pick up something that I left in my desk, and I expected it to be like Walking Dead out there, like, you know, flying down the road, and like there's nobody there, and it was like any other

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I had to slow down because I couldn't get around people.

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You know, it was if I didn't know better, I would have said it was a, you know, midday any other day of the week.

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And even when I got to work, I expected the parking lot to be empty and it was like half full.

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I was like, what the hell?

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Yeah, people are still out fucking around and shit.

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You know, it's really tough to get, you know, anybody to take something like this seriously, I think.

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Yeah.

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So have you experienced empty shelves and things like that at the store? Not for anything that I need to acquire. I'm like an old man. I already buy a lot of shit in bulk as it is. For a long time I've been like, yeah, I'm just going to buy a case of toothpaste so that way I won't have to go to the store as much.

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Yeah, but that's because, not because you're hoarding it or worried, it's because you literally don't want to go back to the store again. Yeah, it's more like a long-term cost savings thing. I've been doing that for years, you know. So you already have, like, mountains and mountains of toilet paper. Nah, not really. Not really. Yeah. I've been, Trevor was talking about it and a couple other people about getting a bidet so they don't have to use toilet paper.

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That's the thing, man. If it really gets that bad, just hop in the shower afterwards or something. That was my thought. I was like, man, it would suck to have to take a shower every time. I don't get it. It's like, how much do you plan to shit during this thing? Exactly. Do you have so much food? I'm figuring I'm not going to have as much food, so I'm not going to go as much. Who was? It blows my mind. There was some guitarist. I can't remember who it was. He was getting shit.

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about some comments he made about all this and people were jumping all over him and he said that to me he says well i'm glad you're getting to hoard all the toilet paper he said i hope you shit yourselves to death then i can't remember what i just absolutely lost it when i because he his response was very measured and i wouldn't call it contrite but he wasn't trying to stir trouble and then he just ends with i hope you shit yourself to death i just lost it yeah so before we get into talking about music stuff is there anything else that you do to keep yourself occupied uh since you're

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probably home more even though you have to go out to work you're still not going out doing fun things no uh well i mean yeah

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fortunately i have like kind of a makeshift uh recording studio in my basement and makeshift at best

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so you know i i never i'm no i always have you know the ability to play instruments and make homemade albums and keep myself busy in that way without that

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what the fuck I would be doing right now. Probably be locked up in a

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home somewhere. Like we all are.

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But not that kind of home.

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A home with padded walls.

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So speaking

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of working on the music then

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you currently this year

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have a lot of things going on. A lot of

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irons in the fire so to speak.

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Yes.

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So

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first thing you

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In January, I think it was. Fight School. Yeah. And we had you on for that. Or we had Butch on anyway. And you have Chopping Mall coming out next month. Yeah. Chopping Mall is the album still going to be released. On Hell or High Water. Why don't you talk about that a little bit? Because that's, I love the artwork. And you told me about this guy.

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And a while back, I talked to him about getting some artwork, but then had to abort that for a while. But that artwork is fucking awesome. Yeah, I'm glad you like it. Well, with the last, you know, when I put out the last Arctic Sleep album, you know, that was a very intense, every Arctic Sleep album is a really intense experience for me personally, and also extremely expensive. So, you know, I spend like two years,

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writing an arctic sleep album and it's it's very personal and involved and it takes a ton of work and i have to save up a lot of money to spend you know a good amount of time in the studio making a big grand epic album uh you know to to live up to that shit so you know after doing that last one i was like you know what uh this year i just want to i had i don't want to make anything very serious i just want to release

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like a bunch of weird projects that all started out as inside jokes. I just want to have a laugh and make a bunch of albums at home for zero dollars and, you know, just make all these different fake bands and just entertain myself and my friends and, you know, all you fine folks out there. You're definitely entertaining me. As well. So, yeah. So, you know, I just I want to just make stuff that's

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It's Stupid and Fun, which is like the opposite of Arctic Sleep, which is really serious and personal. Now, I just want to crank out a bunch of ridiculous garbage over the next year. So what I'm doing this year is I'm just seeing how many different bands I can make. So far, I'm too deep into it, and it's only like, what, March or something? So I put out the Fight School EP right away, and then I'm

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I'm releasing a full album of death grind, grindcore sort of thing called Chopping Mall, which will be out next month. And all of these bands are things that I've been joking about with people for like the last 15 years. So some of these are really old ideas where I'm like, now I'm going to make, you know, remember that inside joke that we had, you know, where I said I was going to do this. I'm going to do it for real now.

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Yeah, so the Chopping Mall album is called, it's a brief title, but Malled by a Magical Bear with Scalding Hot Liquid Cheese Spraying from Its Eye Sockets. I'm looking at it right now, just loving this. And the fact that the album artwork actually conveys this is fantastic. The artwork is great, isn't it? Yes, it is.

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that? Absolutely. Yeah. I can't remember how I came up with that album title. Actually, I have no clue. I don't remember. But after I came up with the title, you know, I hit up a guy that I follow on the Internet. He does artwork for like all kinds of death metal bands. And he's done designs for like a lot of well-known death metal and grindcore bands. And I always really admire his art.

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So I messaged him and I was like, hey, I told him about the project. I said, the album title is called Mauled by a Magical Bear with a Scalding Hot Liquid Cheese Spring from its eye sockets. And so I said, you know, could you do that? And he said, yeah. And I was like, I want it to be like a campsite because a lot of the

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The songs on the album are about getting killed by forest animals and getting killed in bizarre ways while you're out hiking or whatever. Jay should really listen to this album because he does a lot of hiking. What was I saying? You're talking about explaining the cover to him. Oh yeah. Yeah. So he draws a lot of really fucked up shit.

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Or should I say he paints it? And he's crazy talented. And so I figured he'd be up for it. And sure enough, he was. He was pumped about it. And it was funny, you know, halfway through like the where he was kind of doing the rough sketches and everything. He was like, how should I make the bear look magical? And I was like, I don't know, maybe make it sparkly. Yeah. And he was he was like, yeah, that's what I was thinking, too.

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So if you look at the art, the bear has like magical blue sparkles surrounding it or whatever. And yeah, I just wanted there to be like a guy at a campsite just getting like brutally mauled by a magical bear burned by hot liquid cheese. Exactly. So if this sounds interesting to you, that will be out on April 17th on Bandcamp. I'm telling you just from the song titles alone.

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It's going to be unreal. I've heard the album. Keith was nice enough to give me an advance on it. And it's good. I like it. I'll tell you the one I'm actually looking forward to the most, believe it or not, is the one song called Shut Your Kid Up. I just, there's something about that that I know I'm going to enjoy. So after Chopping Mall, I know you have a couple other things in,

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The Pipe. What else you got going on? Yeah, the Chopping Mall album comes out April 17th. I have CDs for sale that I will continue to mail out so long as the post office is still mailing shit and digital copies as well available on Bandcamp. I made them nice and affordable as well. So, you know, get on that. Yep, pick it up. Yeah. I got distracted by my plugging.

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my project there and I forgot what the question is. What's next? I know you have at least two other

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projects that we've been talking about. Oh yeah there's tons so like I said you know I have all

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of these bands that like I joked about making in the past and now I'm taking them from being jokes into being

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reality one by one I'm doing them all. So the next thing in the pipeline I'm already tracking guitars for it is

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Me and Nick, who is drummer from Arctic Sleep, we are going to do an album where we cover the entire Top Gun original motion picture soundtrack. That's awesome. From front to back, every song from... Danger Zone? Danger Zone, thank you. Oh man, my brain's not working today. I can't wait to hear that.

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and everything.

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Wow.

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Berlin?

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Everything.

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Yeah.

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Every song on there.

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And so, yeah, I've been tracking guitars for that, which is kind of fun learning

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all those songs.

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I fucking love that Cheap Trick song that's on there.

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It's one of my favorite 80s songs.

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Which one is it?

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It's called Mighty Wings.

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It just rocks, man.

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I love it.

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Yeah, those are probably the only two songs I know on there.

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I'll have to go look.

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I'll have to look it up.

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Yeah, a lot of the rest of it is stuff you wouldn't even really remember. But yeah, I really value Nick as a friend and a musical collaborator because he's the only person I know that's willing to go halfway with me on the whole 80s hair, metal genre, glam sort of thing. We both really love all those bands.

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Are you going to do like a Poison-y kind of Ratty kind of band? Maybe. Yeah, he had suggested that actually. But yeah, I love Poison and Rat. I grew up on that stuff when I was a kid and I still love it as an adult. And he's really into it too, probably even more so than me. So yeah, we were sitting around drinking one night listening to the Top Gun soundtrack on vinyl.

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I was like, dude, we should do an album where we cover the entire Top Gun soundtrack. And I didn't hear from him for a few days, but then he got back to me and was like, yeah, I think that the world needs that right now if you're serious. And I said, I'm always serious.

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That's awesome. I can't wait to hear that.

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How are you going to replicate that synth bass?

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I'm doing it all like just raw, regular instruments and everything. So I just did the bass parts for Take My Breath Away a couple days ago, actually. So I gave it just a heavy, distorted bass tone. So the whole thing's going to end up being a heavy metal album, whether the song calls for it or not. Nice. That'll be fun to hear because, you know, for the people who grew up during that period who were subjected to that synth-y sound that just...

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That destroyed so many great bands. I don't know if I want to relive that again. Yeah, we're going to make that song nice and heavy. But of course, I'm not going to pay the shitload of money it would take to get licensing for all those songs. So it won't be something that actually gets put out for sale. I'm just going to stick it on YouTube until I get busted and it gets taken down or whatever. So it'll be a thing where you'll need to hit me up.

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the email if you want a free download of it. On the black market? Yeah, it'll be a black market bootleg album. And I'll be giving it away for free to anybody who wants it. It's just for a laugh. Are you going to do the vocals clean or harsh? Or both? I think it's going to depend on the song. I'd like to bring in some guest vocalists for a few different songs, so I'm going to cross that bridge when I get to it. Cool. What were you saying, John? Why don't you really mess with people and make it available?

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on cassette only.

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It's not a bad idea.

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I was thinking of remaking the album cover for it and everything.

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Probably get a good chuckle out of that.

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So I know, well, I know two other things that you're working on, actually.

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Yeah, I have a backlogged list of things that I'm just going to put out one after another this year.

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That's not the only project that has to do with a movie.

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Yeah, that's right. I'm also currently writing for a new band that I am starting with John Gleisner. He's the drummer from a band, a sludge band called Northless that you may or may not have heard of before. They're from here as well. And him and me go way back, you know, like 10 years ago or so. And for a long time, probably for

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over a year now I've been joking about making a heavy metal album that's entirely based on the movie Kroll. Have you ever seen Kroll? Yeah. So yeah for those who don't know it's like a movie from the early 80s from like the sci-fi fantasy genre and I always think like there's a million bands out there that are heavy metal bands that you know do the whole

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you know the whole Lovecraft thing or the whole Lord of the Rings thing or you know this or that but I don't think anybody's made an album about Kroll and the Kroll universe and the Kroll mythos yet so there might be a reason for that but you know who knows it's gonna be good dude trust me John's an amazing drummer he's really good he's like John Bonham incarnate

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And we're just gonna make it, you know, really just raw, barbaric, heavy metal, operatic vocals. And I'm already three songs into writing that project right now. Nice. Well, like everything else, I look forward to it. Oh, yeah, it's that's gonna be an entertaining record. It's gonna be full length. And we're gonna go all out with that one. Sweet.

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I think you mentioned something about Unearth Delph as well. Yeah, I haven't. It's on the back burner right now, but once I've knocked out those few projects I just mentioned, I am going to start writing the follow-up to the Unearth Delph album, which will be a little more of an involved process. So that's kind of why I'm putting it off and getting the stupid shit out of the way here. Yeah. Do you have any other projects going on that I haven't?

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Not mentioned yet? Yeah. I'm making an unplugged Arctic Sleep album. Okay. I was going to say something about that because he said something on Facebook, but I didn't know if you wanted to talk about it or not. Yeah. Yeah. It's happening. I was just tracking vocals for it before I logged on here to chat with you guys here. It's, I don't know, when this whole pandemic shit happened and the lockdown happened and everything, I, you know, I had the Arctic Sleep album.

01:22:20.840 --> 01:22:50.760
Sleep Stuff kind of packed away in my mind. But when this happened, I just really felt a need to connect with that music and reconnect with that fan base. And I just I wanted to give them something, you know. So so are these previous songs done acoustically? Are there new songs? No, no, they are. It's like a retrospective. So what I wanted to do was,

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Pick a song off of each Arctic Sleep album and then recreate it just on acoustic guitar and vocals, you know, a little bit of hand drums and some fretless bass. So and recreate them like that, you know, unplugged. Yeah. And yeah, I just I really wanted to to just give something for, you know, the Arctic Sleep fans to have and look forward to. And again, that's going to be available.

01:23:20.820 --> 01:23:25.760
for free download as soon as i'm done with it which will hopefully be this week

01:23:26.440 --> 01:23:36.860
oh cool that's pretty fast then huh yeah yeah nice it go ahead george no no i was gonna say uh you sound

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like maybe you've been hanging out with devin townsend lately because i don't know if as prolific as you are

01:23:43.700 --> 01:23:47.520
yeah because i don't know if you've been paying attention to what he's been doing since his tour got

01:23:48.020 --> 01:24:16.220
I have. Yeah. He basically took a week off and has been going nonstop with like a thousand things at once. Right. And I think that's probably a little bit of his personality that he wants to keep working. But if you're a fan of his, you have to think that something big is going to come out of this from him. And it seems like that's what you're doing, too. You're keeping yourself as busy as possible. And all these different avenues are opening up to explore. And who knows what you'll find. Right.

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Absolutely. And, you know, mostly, mostly it's, I want, uh, you know, I, I feel for everybody out there that is in a situation like I am, where they're dealing with depression and anxiety and all this horrible shit that, you know, has kind of made the world grind to a halt as we know it. And so I just, I wanted to do my part and, and just get something out there that, you know, can, can hopefully brighten

01:24:47.160 --> 01:24:53.040
somebody's day and gives them something to look forward to and won't cost a dime that's

01:24:53.110 --> 01:24:59.700
awesome awesome it's nice to be able to uh take free time and do something creative with it

01:25:00.120 --> 01:25:05.380
like this absolutely that's why i'm doing these interviews not that it's creative particularly but

01:25:06.300 --> 01:25:12.540
you know yeah same idea labor it's a labor of love man exactly but like i said to you the day george

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about, you know, Keith, we do a, every Friday we throw out a, you know, what are you listening to new music Friday thing on Facebook? And it's, it doesn't hit that many people, but I think for the people who do pay attention, it's just a small, there's no arrogance in me saying this at all. I don't mean it that way. Just a little bit of normality that we got enough shit going on. Maybe you see one thing you're like, ah, okay, I got five minutes. I'll kind of go back to this world before I have to go back to the shit that I'm dealing with. You know, the other

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23 hours of the day. Exactly. Exactly. And we need stuff like that, you know. Yeah, I think it goes a long way because I'm seeing, you know, now fans are reciprocating back to the bands. And not just bands, but anything else in your daily life. And that's one of the beautiful things that's about, you know, whether it's music or broadcasting or whatever. If you think back to, like, when even way worse things happened,

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I've been thinking a lot about, like, imagine people that lived through World War II, you know, in Europe or whatever, and how their lives were upended and everything. You know, you still, no matter, even if the world is burning around you, you still, you need to have, you know, music and entertainment and just have that kind of connection. And it's very important, I think.

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Yeah, for me, music is very cathartic. And so on a normal non-pandemic day, I use music as a way to deal with the shit going on in my life. And so that's just doubly important now with everything being as crazy as it is. You know, for me, actually, I got a different perspective on music. We're all the same. We've all been probably neurotic about this since we were,

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able to comprehend music.

01:27:15.100 --> 01:27:21.580
But I can tell you before all this happened, I was getting to the point, I was like, at some point, I got to slow down.

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There's just too much I'm listening to and hunting after.

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And I'm forgetting all the things that I really love.

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And now that this has all come to this point and with our episode we just did, you know, on 50 years of metal, I've gone back and I'm like, you know, I'm just not going to spend so much time with always looking for something new.

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I got to go back and relive or enjoy the stuff that got me to where I am to this point. I'm finding I'm enjoying music way more now than I have in a while because, yeah, it's great. New stuff's out. But there's so much stuff that I've forgotten that I haven't listened to in so long that I need to get back to. But just think of all the bands you missed while you were doing that and they've slipped through the cracks. That is the OCD that I live with every day. I'm like, yeah, I'd really like to go back and listen to that album from three years ago.

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What? There's 10 new albums that came out today, so I better listen to them and make sure I'm not missing something. That's sort of my point. I'm sort of letting that go. See, I can't do that. Well, I haven't completely cut the umbilical cord. It's been severely severed, so it's hanging on a little bit because there's a few things that are slipping through that I'm like, oh shit, I've got to get this. I'm trying to do both now because I have a little more time than I can spend with headphones on during the day. Which is the only way

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to listen as far as I'm concerned. Yeah. So, uh, yeah, like I, I just, for my workouts lately, I've been going, working my way through the Napalm Death Catalog and, uh, enjoying their older stuff. Yeah. I've been, that's what I've been doing. I've been really hitting up whole discographies because to, to kind of a relive some things, but to kind of see where this band or artist was going and where they got to. So. Cool.

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All right, any other projects? There's a whole bunch more where that came from, but we'd be here for a while talking about them. For me, this is the year of just making inside jokes come to life and doing a couple other nice little things here and there. That's awesome. All right, well then, why don't we, I asked you earlier to think about some,

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some albums that you would like to have with you in a government quarantine.

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We did a top five list recently where we did our top five albums.

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If CDC came knocking on the door and said, hey, we're taking you to quarantine, you've got 30 seconds to grab five albums to take with you.

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What are they?

01:29:59.440 --> 01:30:00.940
Oh, man, that would be rough.

01:30:01.760 --> 01:30:06.960
You know, I should have done a thing where, like, you actually do a drill like that, you know.

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You actually set a timer. Sort of like when people are going to have a baby, they do the run-throughs of getting the bag together and getting everything and getting in the car. Yeah. But then, you know, some weird shit would happen where, you know, you grab something without looking at it and you'd get to quarantine and, you know, you'd look at it and be like, you know, Kenny Loggins, what was I doing with this? Something.

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And it dawned on you that you were working on the Top Gun thing. Yeah, exactly. Oh, that's true. That would be appropriate. Yeah, I've just got it on the brain right now, I guess. You know, I think instinctively, I don't know how your lists went, but instinctively, I would just, you know, I would reach for some of my favorite albums just off the top of my head.

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You know, the ones that you know so well, you know, I wouldn't like go grabbing for any new shit that I'm not too familiar with or anything. No. You know, you would want stuff that is like the comforts, the comforts of home, I guess you could say that you grew up with and you're familiar with and they make you feel warm and fuzzy when you listen to them. You know, that's what you need. Jay cheated and put on, he didn't cheat, but,

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He hedged his bets by putting on collections. Like, you know, he did like the Iron Maiden, Beast Over Hammersmith, and it's like, you know, it's like a double album and like a Motorhead collection. So he had lots to choose from. That's interesting because I had kind of a similar strategy for one of my picks. Okay. Anyway, so I would probably immediately run down to my, I collect CDs. I don't have a lot of vinyl. I grew up in the

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And that's when I did the bulk of my music buying. So I'd go for CDs because they would travel better. And I doubt they have a very good analog setup in the quarantine facility. Probably not. They'll be like, here's a disc man. Get in your room. Yeah. At best, you could maybe get your hands on one of those. So the very first album that popped into my mind was Arise by Sepultura. Nice. Yeah. Yeah. It's like the album that,

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was my gateway into more extreme types of heavy metal. That's an album that I can't actually play the drums through the whole thing, but I can air drum to it like a motherfucker and just sing along with every single word. It brings me joy to do that. I would never get sick of it. Am I just listing them all right now? Yeah, we already did ours.

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Oh, shit. Okay. This is, I don't mean to sound like a narcissist too much, but I would bring along the Unearthed Elf album into the Catacomb Abyss. Nice. Even though it's something that I made, I think out of everything I've ever made, that's the album I have the most fun still listening to. A lot of times I get sick of my shit, but when that album comes on, I listen to the whole

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I still really enjoy it and it brings a smile to my face

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awesome

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yeah

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Tales from the Thousand Lakes by Amorphous

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nice

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again one of the earliest ones I got into

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that was kind of my gateway

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into

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European

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metal so

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really love that record

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October Rust

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by Type O Negative

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Another classic that I can't live without. Yeah. And then the so the collaboration album, A Dangerous Meeting by King Diamond slash Merciful Fate. Yeah. Is would be essential listening for me. That's a pretty varied list. I like that. That's my that's my quarantine list. Yeah. Yeah. You got options there. It's not like it's not like all death metal, you know.

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The Spice of Life, man. Yeah, man. Cool. Well, thank you. I don't have a whole lot else to ask at this point. John, do you have anything? I'm good. This is, believe it or not, we got a lot of information in this short period. Yeah. So it's been good. That's good. I open and self-promote too much. No, no, actually. I was going to sound like an asshole. Well, yeah, actually,

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We wanted you to come on and promote somebody else's band, but we'll take what we can get. I guess you've got to do your own. Jeez. Yeah. Jeez. Actually, before we head out, even though we've already mentioned it, you should self-promote a little and let people know where they can get everything by all your different projects, which, you know, go out and spend some money on him. I should make just a single home for all of them. I've been thinking about that. I was like, man, by the end,

01:35:33.200 --> 01:36:03.160
this year, I'm going to have too many fucking Facebook pages to manage and shit. It's going to get confusing. I should just make like one page for all my different little weird bands so you can find them all in one spot, you know, like a record label would or whatever. Exactly. I was just talking about that with somebody else who has multiple projects. And he was concerned. He was concerned about spinning up another one because he was afraid that the people for his main band would not be able to do it.

01:36:03.200 --> 01:36:07.080
find this stuff and I was like you have a little like self

01:36:07.280 --> 01:36:09.200
record label I was like make a band camp page with

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that and put them all on there so everybody

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can get everything in the same spot and

01:36:13.380 --> 01:36:15.180
that's a brilliant idea I'm gonna get to

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work on that actually the the the crawl

01:36:18.380 --> 01:36:20.260
themed band I forgot to mention what

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it's called I just realized it's called

01:36:22.640 --> 01:36:25.100
dragons of crawl so just to backtrack a

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little bit there that was the name of the

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original screenplay for the movie actually

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okay there's not a single dragon in the

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movie though, which is weird. Well, maybe that's why they changed the name. They're like, oh shit, no dragons. It is a big budget film. So I mean, come on. Yeah. They ran out of money for dragons, I guess. Yeah. Maybe they're metaphorical dragons. There you go. So, all right. So people can find the chopping mall on band camp, fight school on band camp, Arctic sleep on band camp, unearthed elf on band camp.

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All of that's on there. It's all there. I like Bandcamp a lot. I'm a big fan of the website. I think it's good for the artist. It's good for the music consumer, listener. And so I always recommend that folks go there to search out my projects and other projects and things, stuff, items. Cool. All right.

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Well, thanks for coming on today. And, you know, hope you stay well. And I'm sure. Yeah, definitely. I'm sure we'll have you on again next project. Yeah, yeah. Just trying to hold it together, man. So I hope you guys can hold it together and stay sane. And everybody who's listening, you know, try to try to hold on, man. Stay the course. Yep. Yep. All right. I want to I want to end with a quote from Butch Marino. Coronavirus.

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If you're listening, fuck you, motherfucker. Exactly. Exactly. I like that guy's attitude. Yeah. Yeah. You know, I don't think I swore for like two or three days, which is like an eternity for me after that episode. That was good fun. Yes. All right, man. Thanks for coming on. Yeah. We'll see you next time. Thank you. See you next time. Cheers, buddy. See ya.

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the world's gonna end. Yeah. Wow, this sounds bleak already. Hey, how's it going? All right. Thanks for making it. So now Markisan's not moving either. I don't even have him at all. Yeah, I don't have a picture yet. Oh, sorry. There we go. Yeah. Cool. So I always have to hit that camera thing. I always think it's gonna come on automatically. It never does. Well, I was just saying I was having problems with mine just now, and that's why I was wondering if

01:39:03.180 --> 01:39:04.740
If the thing was continuing.

01:39:06.180 --> 01:39:06.280
So.

01:39:06.740 --> 01:39:09.000
Now I always remember to turn on the camera on the computer.

01:39:09.240 --> 01:39:10.400
But when this starts.

01:39:10.430 --> 01:39:12.120
I have to hit the little button every time.

01:39:12.800 --> 01:39:12.940
Yeah.

01:39:13.020 --> 01:39:13.980
The default is off.

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It's Skype.

01:39:17.920 --> 01:39:18.500
It sucks.

01:39:19.440 --> 01:39:19.660
Yeah.

01:39:20.120 --> 01:39:20.300
Yeah.

01:39:20.430 --> 01:39:20.840
It does.

01:39:21.260 --> 01:39:23.320
It's been working pretty well for us lately though.

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Yeah.

01:39:26.200 --> 01:39:27.960
It's been a while since I've had a problem.

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I had to say something.

01:39:31.140 --> 01:39:32.040
Wah wah wah.

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Yeah.

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The signal to Canada is not working. Yeah. Well, actually, since moving to Hawaii, I have a better signal. The Wi-Fi is just better. Everything, it just moves faster. I think it's because I'm on the 44th floor. There's not a lot of interference or anything. And then whenever I podcast, I'm right by the outside. So I think it helps. Why don't you just say everything's better in Hawaii? Well, it's not because you can't get any metal. That's true.

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Although, I can't believe this, I missed, Revocation was here, and I like that band, but I didn't even realize they were coming, they were playing a small show at this place called Anna O'Brien's, and I just totally missed it, and could have gone to the show, and they sold out, because it's such a small show. Right. They only had so many tickets. Jeez. So that's probably, you know, and they're a good band, so I would have liked to see them. And now, you know, I'm not going to see anything for,

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Who knows how long. Indeed. What time did you get up today? I got up at 8.30, I think. Okay. So that's funny. You should say you don't get to see anything because I was just talking to George about that enslaved concert today. I totally missed it because I think you sent a message at like 8 or something my time. Yeah, it started right at 2 o'clock our time. They did an hour and like 10 minutes.

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I wonder if they'll just have it to watch afterwards. Probably. It was some online music festival. The place they did it was for charity. I miss a lot of stuff like that, John. No, I had no idea. I completely forgot it was on until it popped up on my screen. I was like, oh shit, that's like in 10 minutes. Yeah, I woke up at 8.30. When I say woke up,

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I'm slightly getting up, rolling around, and then maybe I'm out by nine out of bed. Yeah. Yeah. Be cool if they released it because it sounded really good. Yeah, I'd like to watch it. Yeah. Yeah. It's Will. And he's muted. Yeah, shocker. Just like old times. Hello. Hey, baby. How you doing? You guys like my COVID-19 crew cut?

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Yeah, it's shorter. Definitely shorter. Yeah. Just go all the way, man. Do the whole thing. This is good enough. So, is this an April Fool's joke, or is there a guest, or what the fuck? I don't know. I'm looking for him. George is going to pull his mask off, and it's going to be Joel. Well, while we're waiting, I'm going to do what I did last time and take my pants off.

01:42:33.040 --> 01:42:33.640
Hmm.

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This is kind of becoming frequent.

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I don't understand why he has pants on to begin with.

01:42:43.160 --> 01:42:43.600
I know.

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Who does that?

01:42:44.240 --> 01:42:46.900
I've not worn anything but sweatpants or...

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There we go.

01:42:47.700 --> 01:42:48.460
Oh, jeez.

01:42:48.600 --> 01:42:50.500
I don't understand why, one, we have to watch it.

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Two, why don't you just take your pants off beforehand?

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I think he's doing it for dramatic effect, John.

01:42:56.520 --> 01:42:56.720
Yeah.

01:42:57.010 --> 01:42:57.460
I think...

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Well, yeah, that's obvious.

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Look at this.

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There we go.

01:43:02.890 --> 01:43:02.980
Oh.

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Look at that. No tire tracks. It's too bad he didn't have headphones in for that. That was for you, George. Well, we're all sick now. Didn't need to say that. I showed you my best side. Both of them. Meanwhile, on the back of my deranged mother's

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I know.

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So, uh,

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everyone's running out of minutes late.

01:43:42.840 --> 01:43:43.240
That's all right.

01:43:43.560 --> 01:43:45.040
So everyone's liking this black curse.

01:43:45.040 --> 01:43:45.620
I listened to it.

01:43:45.620 --> 01:43:46.840
I'm like, ah, it's not my thing.

01:43:47.920 --> 01:43:48.640
I didn't listen to it.

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Too black metal for you.

01:43:50.680 --> 01:43:50.800
Well,

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yeah,

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kind of it,

01:43:54.880 --> 01:43:56.280
but it's not really black metal though.

01:43:56.400 --> 01:43:57.260
No metal.

01:43:57.920 --> 01:43:58.800
It's black and death.

01:43:58.960 --> 01:43:59.620
It's deathy black.

01:43:59.840 --> 01:44:00.560
And it's all over that.

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The two genres.

01:44:02.520 --> 01:44:02.600
Yeah.

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It's pretty black though, I think. At least on the first listen. There's a lot of death metal on that album. I agree. I'll give it another listen. I love it. I think it's great. Sounds like you were a little scared, Will. Yeah, I mean, it's black metal. It's not, though. I did buy the... Hey, George, I noticed all these things that you recommend. I look in your...

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in your collection on Bandcamp, but you don't own any of them. Which ones are you talking about? Disbelief, I think, is one. And there's some other one that was your album of the month. Or not Disbelief. There's something else I was looking for. I don't remember what it was. The Volcano? Yes. Was it Volcano? Yes, Volcano. Yeah, no, I haven't picked them up yet.

01:45:02.740 --> 01:45:31.380
If they're on Bandcamp, I probably will get them, yeah. It's on Bandcamp. I listen to it. I bought both of them. Okay, good. Yeah, you won't have to look for them, George, and then get pissed when they're not on the right page. Screw you, gang. Yeah, the Volcano definitely sounds a little bit like Halloway, Shono Mercy era Slayer. Definitely sounds like Slayer.

01:45:32.760 --> 01:45:36.840
Yeah, the disbelief kind of reminds me of like a harder Amon Amarth.

01:45:37.700 --> 01:45:39.780
It's got a little bit of bolt thrower out of that too.

01:45:40.340 --> 01:45:42.380
Yeah, it's pretty good. I like it.

01:45:42.940 --> 01:46:00.460
Yeah, I was, I forgot that I had put it on my phone and was working out this morning. I'd already, I saw John saying, you know, anybody more? And I was like, I'm good. And then I was like, oh yeah, I have this on here. Let me listen to this. And I was like, oh shit, is that this month? Oh shit.

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I also bought the Hyborian, which I liked a lot. Yeah. I liked it, too. I like it, too. Yeah, I needed something just sort of... There's been just so much death metal lately for me. I'm kind of searching for something different. Well, did you listen to the Leviatar? That's one we got as a... It's like some doom metal. That's actually really good, I thought.

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Did we get it as a promo? You did, yeah. I think you'll really like that. Lavitar? Leviatar. Leviatar. Yeah. I'll have to check it out. I did like the ulcerate. Is that how you pronounce it? Oh, yeah. That was pretty good. That kicks ass. There's another one. Aura? A-R-A that I just put in there? That one's actually pretty good, too. Death metal.

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I mean, the ulcerate and the black curse are a heavy rotation for me today. I really like those two. I edited the first two interviews today. I was hoping to do this one tonight, edit it tomorrow, and post it tomorrow night and get it out Friday morning. How much did you get total from the two? It was like an hour and 35 minutes for the first two. Are you going to put them all in the one big thing or are you going to release them individually? All together.

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How many do you plan on doing? Well, for this, I'm going to do three in one episode. And then whether we do more, I'm not sure yet. Because I don't know how into doing them everybody else is. So I'm going to... Well, when there's... Like, right now, I told my wife, like, yeah, George is bugging me to get on this thing. And she's like, again? Jesus. Like, she's like, he's fucking bored, isn't he?

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But, you know, we're not doing three-hour episodes. We're just doing, you know. I know. Yeah. Yeah, I don't mind. I'll come on any time. Just the first time, I had something else going on, and the second time, I just did it early. Your other girlfriend. Hey, can you guys hear this when I'm playing this music? No. No. No? So I just discovered I can drown you guys out by playing music, and you guys can't even hear it.

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And you'll just be like, uh-huh. That's okay, because George can just cut your mic anytime. Or you could just, you know, put the mute on. Yeah, or you could just press mute. I have to say, I'm already digging this Leviatar, the first, like, 30 seconds. I told you you'd like it, well. Yeah, the first 30 seconds is pretty good. Hey, so are they on a different clock in Canada? Yes. Well, he's an hour ahead, so it's like quarter after nine there. He said he'd be on at 9.15, so we're almost there. Oh, okay.

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this is right in my wheelhouse. I know. That's why I recommended it. I didn't want you to miss that one. When I was listening, I was like, oh, Will's going to like this. Yeah, when I put it in the box, it was because I figured Will would like it. You know what? It was because you it was like this. I guess this Aura and Loviatar right in like a middle tranche that you didn't really announce. You announced like all the other ones. And then this just kind of snuck in there. And then you announced the other set. It seemed like. Unless I missed it. Maybe I maybe I didn't.

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So basically what Will's saying is he didn't pay attention. Yeah, pretty much. Probably. Wouldn't be the first time. Hey guys, guess what I'm drinking? Water! They spelled out their name phonetically on here. I want to see what it is. I'm going to top this off. I'll be right back.

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It's all right. Well, I'm not drinking either tonight. No? I don't see the point. Do you need a point? You should be drinking because I can't. I'm not drinking either. No. I'm not going to drink every day. It's ridiculous. This is a regular day for me. The only difference is... Yeah, but don't you have a beer every day anyway? No. Oh. No. I used to. I thought about it, but I was like, I'm going to give a break. Plus, I don't want to drink all my beer.

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I don't want to keep going out to get more beer. Yeah, Virginia now put a smack down. Oh, by the way. You can still go buy beer. I know. I'm trying not to go out that much, you know. Oh, no, no. I know. Same to Will because we're on, you know, we're not under martial law yet. Not yet. But my wife's colleague got pulled over in D.C. by the police saying, hey, we're driving. They're like, where the fuck are you going?

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That's a little disturbing. Yes. Because she could be going anywhere. I mean, how do they know what that person's doing? Yeah. Hey, I don't know if you noticed, but there's, I saw on Twitter that Barrett from the District Chop House basically got furloughed and laid off and fired. And then in the thread, there's like a whole bunch of people in the local brewing industry who are getting laid off. And so this may really fuck up the local brewing scene. Well, not local.

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Yeah, I saw an article about that. I didn't read it, but the headline was like, you know, craft beer was having enough problems, and now this is really fucking them over. Yeah. I think Leon at Port City. Leon used to be one of the brewers at Cap City, then down at Heroic, and then now he's at Port City. He said something around him on Twitter of like, yeah, me too, I'm out too. And some guy worked at a cidery is out that I knew.

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There's just the three that I know of on the one Twitter feed. Yep. And then Anheuser-Busch will just weasel away into some kind of legislation somewhere to keep it the way it is after this thing settles out. Buy everybody else. Everyone's going to go out of business. Yeah, I mean, he doesn't want to pay anybody, so he's not going to lose out. I need to check in on Atlas to see how they're doing because they were supposed to open up the second location of the ballpark this week. Yeah.

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theory, because they put online orders up. And I can never get their beer, so I actually ordered a bunch from them. So that's exciting. But I really love that brewery. Yeah, you know, well, if you ever get back to drinking again, Dominion, you can do curbside with them. They'll bring it out to the car, or you just go out and meet them right there at the front door. Full service menu from them. I think if I, next month,

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I'm sure this is all still be locked down pretty hard by the end of the month. I was even considering driving all the way to Atlas just to go get, like, actually buy beer from Atlas just to support my own brewery. But you can't because you'll get to D.C. and then they'll pull you over. Yeah. You got Virginia plates. What are you doing here? There was some guy, Jen, yelled up. She said, hey, there's some dude driving down the street with a New York license plate. He's like, what the hell is he doing on our street? We live on a dead end.

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as Will knows. I'm like, what is a dude from New York doing all the way down here? Because you remember when they did that full lockdown, they don't want anyone leaving the state at all. They're apparently pulling over New York drivers. I don't know if it's happened to New Jersey drivers as they leave the state. It's crazy. I'm texting Dan, the head brewer at Atlas to see how things are going. I put something on Instagram.

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about my daughter's room. She's got the two chemists flags. I really liked it. No, no, no. But no, but what I was going to say is something my, I don't care about that, but something that my daughter astutely pointed out, because you have basically the full gatefolds of both albums, and they're kind of, they're next to each other. If you look at the Hunted cover, and then you compare it to the Desolation cover, there's a story between the two. I don't know if you've noticed that. No.

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My nine-year-old daughter noticed it. In The Hunted, the woman is kind of cowering behind one of the wizards. Right? And then there's... Didn't they tell us this? This sounds familiar. Yeah, maybe they did. But on The Desolation, that same woman who is cowering behind one of the wizards is now on the throne. And one of the wizard, the other opposite wizard or something... Because on The Hunted, there's two wizards kind of going at each other.

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And on the Desolation, one of the wizards that they were kind of going against is like a skull. Her foot's like on that guy's skull or something. And then you can see all the different like the goats and all the different like creepy soldier dudes or whatever. They're all like they've transformed them from one album to the other album. But like it's kind of like a, all right, this is what happened. And then whatever, like six months later,

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this is the result and like these guys are dead these guys are now in charge the woman's on the throne like this i'm

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really and my daughter noticed all this shit she's like well i noticed this like this guy here is over here and

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now he's on this pile of skulls over here i'm like my fucking i was like my head was gonna explode

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and like like oh my god how'd she figure this stuff out did you come did you have her look at the uh first

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album cover yet no we don't have that um okay because that's uh the woman there's on the uh sitting on

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the steps of the... I don't know if it's a throne or not, but the wizard's behind her, and she looks like she's a slave or something. Oh, that's even more interesting now. Yeah. No, actually, she's got a sword, though. I take that back. I just opened up the image. Huh. Yeah, it almost looks like he's taking under her wing, like a protégor or something. Yeah, exactly. But I know chemists, they talked about doing a graphic novel on the next album. Hmm. That was cool. So, yes, because there's a...

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I've talked to him a few times about metal.

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And I know he gave the graphic novel that he did called Murder Falcon,

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which is it's all like 80s metal with a falcon kills all kinds of evil bad guys and stuff.

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And and so they know him.

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And so I think they posted on Twitter once that who wants to see us do a graphic novel with Daniel Warren Johnson for the next album.

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Hey, Marcus, son, what's your next venture now that Voracious is kind of done? You talked about maybe a spinoff, but what's... Well, I got a sci-fi fantasy book that we're doing that we just started pitching. Unfortunately, we pitched a couple companies before the coronavirus hit, and now comics is completely stopped. They're not even shipping new comics anymore. So companies aren't really looking to take on new projects.

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So I even get to pitch most of the companies yet. Thank you for your patience, gentlemen. There he is. There he is. Who's this guy interrupting our conversation? Yeah, we've been talking for half an hour now. What, are you down in your bunker right now? Kind of. Are you a fucking prepper there, Joel? Actually, this is the arsenal of Thrasenblatt CDs. Yeah, this is Thrasenblatt Central right there. I know where he is. It's the Thrasenbunker.

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Yeah. Otherwise known as George's Sex Dungeon. Yeah. Jesus. Is that where George's Sex Dungeon? I've heard it called that before. All right. So can you guys hear me okay? Yep. Perfect. All right. Yeah. Thanks again for waiting, guys. I was setting up just this whole thing. It's been crazy working from one room and then, anyway, realizing that I need a video and decent sound, so the whole mess. But here we are. All right.

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Glad you could make it. All right. Well, I'm not going to dilly dally. I'll jump right in. Actually, can I go get a beer? Okay. Well, dilly dally a little longer. Damn it. Now I want to have a beer. I wasn't going to drink. This one's for you, Will. Thanks, guys. Hello, and welcome to Metalhead's Podcast. My name is George. This is Will. This is John.

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This is Markisan. And we are joined today by Joel Violet of Thrasenblatt. Welcome back, Joel. Violeta. Violeta. Hey, guys. How's it going? Pretty good. How are you doing, man? Good, good. Making out. Making just kind of hanging in there over here. How's making out and George smiled? Yeah. How are you and Nicky doing and the rest of all your people there? Everybody well? I think so. Yeah. Everyone's kind of hanging in there.

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Yeah, no, everyone seems to be doing all right. It's obviously pretty weird and wild time, but everyone seems to be coping okay. New Brunswick, the province, jumped on the hammer approach really quickly, so we've been, everyone's kind of used to the physical distancing and all that sort of thing, and everyone's just kind of getting into a routine, I think.

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Canadians are nice they're like oh I have to give you a distance anyway so yeah sorry I got too close eh pretty much business as usual yeah right do you have many cases up there in New Brunswick we have as of yesterday or the day before we have 66 wow you got more than I do which is um considering we've got 750,000 people in the province that's uh you know it's kind of not as it's a little higher than we'd like I think yeah for sure

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Yeah.

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It's 66 that you know of. Well, that's the thing. That's the thing. And we just confirmed our first community spread case. So that means lots more in store, probably. Wonderful. Yeah, where John and I is, we have 32 cases, zero deaths. We have 32 here, too. Or wait, no, 35. Huh. Sorry, I was just looking. I had a web page open that I keep refreshing, but I appear to have moved on to it or off from it.

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Anyway, well, I'm glad you're all well and things are going well. You're well stocked. Do you have to go out much? Decently well stocked. We actually, yeah, we were able to kind of go out once a week. So one of the grocery stores in our area does an online ordering. You just go to a curbside pickup. So we've been doing one of those once a week, which has been good. And even more importantly, so we have a lot of local

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breweries here in Fredericton, as you remember from just listening to me chat about them, they just kind of exploded over the last five or ten years. But so obviously they had to shut all their tap rooms and no one could go and kind of get their beer. But there's a website that just kind of came up a week ago called drinknb.ca. And basically, yeah, it's an inventory of all these local breweries, pretty much all their beer.

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Beers are on there and you just go and you just click I want that one and I want that and I'll have five of those and six of those and then they're delivered to your doorstep on Tuesdays and Fridays. What? Geez. That's nice. I remember you telling me George that you had to drive up to say did you get a full keg? Yes. Yes. Wow. Well no not a full sorry a Sixtal. A Sixtal. Yeah no that's like not a full keg sorry. What's a Sixtal? It's a small keg. It's only like 44 beers or something like that.

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It's 1/6 of a keg. So a normal keg you think of is a half barrel. So it's 1/6 of a barrel. 5.16 gallons. It's fantastic. I love all this information. So it's like 20 liters of beer or 45 or 48 pints of beer. Okay, 20 liters. That makes rings a bell with me because the way we do kegs here in New Brunswick is you can either get a 20 liter or a 60 liter.

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That sounds about right. Yeah. So you guys measure stuff in liters down there? No, man. We're civilized. Gallons. I do love the idea of measuring beer by the barrel, though. Yeah. Yeah, man. Because barrels, I think, are a type of a class of objects that, like, have more interesting names the bigger they get or, like, the smaller they get. Like, you have a whole set of names for them, right? Do you really? Yeah. A barrel is an old British unit of

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I think the mile and the foot and all the other crap that we inherited from

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them but

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a barrel is 32

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gallons so

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a normal keg which is a half

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a barrel is 15 and a

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half

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do you guys have you

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heard of the unit of measurement the hogs

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head yes

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like a gigantic barrel

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I think okay

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so that's

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there's just like you know I think

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So I'd love to chat with the person who knows that naming system through and through. Is that because you drank every time you kept drinking the barrel kept getting bigger and so you didn't know what to call it at that point so Hogshead just came out? Are there other animal increments before the Hogshead? Like a squirrel sack? Foxtail?

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It sounds like this might be something else that might cause you to think these things. A different type of substance.

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So you have enough supplies and everything. Is there anything like running out? You have toilet paper shortages and stuff like that? Here we go. Are assholes up there hoarding toilet paper like they are in Frederick, Maryland?

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Yep.

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And Lysol wipes and bleach.

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It's crazy. It's like if everyone just bought the stuff like they normally would, you know, okay, here's my normal grocery order. Here's how much toilet paper I would normally get. And I can do this because the stores are still being stocked every week. Then everyone have all the stuff. But these people are just buying so much crap and then still going on buying more of it the next time they can. And so it was really eerie going into the grocery store because everything was normally stocked. And then there's just like this enormously empty eye.

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Just like empty shelves where the Lysol wipes and the toilet paper would be. Yeah, I think that's the thing. If everyone did that, if everyone slowed down for like a week, apparently supply chains would actually start to even out for everybody. But people don't want to go out anymore. They want to stock up and then just stay in. And I'm starting to feel that way myself, particularly heading into April where they're talking about reaching peak and they're saying, don't go out at all. And I'm like, I only got like a week's worth of food. I know.

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I need to look into this curbside thing. Nobody delivers here. But maybe somebody does a curbside thing that I can at least pick it up and not have to go into the store. Because I went to the store last Friday and it freaked me out. There were so many people in there. Yeah. Don't you live in the woods, Joel? Yeah, I just live in the woods. Are you, you too? I'm out in the country, but I'm about seven minutes from a grocery store. Oh, well, just kill some shit. Yeah, kill some deer. There's a lot of farmland around you, dude.

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There's a lot of deer and cats around here. Some squirrels. Shitty neighbors, too. I didn't consider this. Given my age, I wonder if I can get in on that senior hour at 6 a.m. in the morning or 7 a.m. Here's the sad thing about that. Shit, I'll take advantage of that. The grocery store near my house does that on Tuesdays and Thursdays mornings. Thursdays, same with me. Yeah. And so last Tuesday is the first time I went to the store in weeks. And I go to the grocery store. I didn't see the sign. And I go in there. I'm like, man, there's a lot.

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I got old people in here like this is fucking like eerie like it's almost like it's the reverse coronavirus where killed anybody under the age of 50 and I'm walking around in there and then I realize on the way out that there's a sign on the door says for the first two hours but here's the weird thing no one said a fucking word to me no they don't want to get that close to you come on I was gonna say do they check IDs because really that would be hard with a six-foot room our store does that too as a matter of fact the last time I was there I got

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and said, do you want your senior discount? And I looked over and I should have just said, yes, I do. I didn't. So I'm like, do I look that old to you? Come on. She's like, I give it to everybody who comes in on this day. I'm getting criminally low on spam. So I've got to get some more of that spam with cheese. Yeah, I got spam with cheese. I got the tocino, but that's it. I only have the two cans. That's gross, man. That's gross. It's really good.

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It probably is, but I don't want to think about it. So I assume you're able to work remotely, Joel? Luckily I am, yeah. Yeah. My wife and I both, so we both feel pretty fortunate about that, that among all the other things to worry about, work isn't one of them, so. That's good. Yeah. So I'm going to ask you about music, but before we get into music, I'm curious if there's anything you're doing to pass the time, non-musically speaking,

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and or to keep you from going stir crazy, which is probably new music. But music. Yeah. Number one thing to do to keep from going stir crazy is music. But also, Nikki and I now know the street names in our neighborhood. Oh, really? That's good. We just knew them as like, well, I mean, we'd walk around, but like now we go for walks all the time. And we and we run exclusively in the neighborhood instead of like driving, you know, five or 10 minutes to a park or something. Yeah. So we know all the street names.

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So that's a big bonus. We can describe our own neighborhood in words instead of just like, yeah, the one that's like between the two ones that has the red house. Also, then, yeah, just trying to get in touch with as many friends as I can and just do as many video chats as I can and just kind of let everybody know the door is always open. It's a wild time, so always happy to chat with anyone. So I'll be doing lots of that.

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So that's been nice. I mean, you might have to wait a half an hour before the chat starts, but. Yeah. There's been a lot of trouble with that. What do you use for chatting? FaceTime, Google Hangouts, Zoom, Slack. Zoom, yeah, that's what I was wondering. It's funny. It's blown up in the last couple of weeks. Yeah, I'd never heard of Zoom in my life. And then suddenly my kids, we have to homeschool my kids now, but they're,

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teachers every now and again contact them once or twice a week over zoom like what the hell zoom

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that's what jen uses for uh grad school they she's been using it for over a year yeah i think that

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was baby where it's it's probably has its biggest uh i don't know i think i think most people just

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don't have huge chats with tons of people and that's why they didn't know about zoom but it has been

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around for stuff like john just described but now everybody wants to have these big chats with

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Crowds, basically, of people.

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Oh, interesting, yeah.

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It's the best way to do it.

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She said her whole class is on.

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She could see everybody at once, and there's, like, 15 people there, so that's probably what the appeal is.

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Yeah, I'd used it at work before, and it's pretty seamless, even for gigantic meetings.

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But, yeah, so I can see why it would be really popular now.

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It was really slick, slicker than the one that we now use.

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Yeah, we use WebEx, and apparently, I read an article,

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because I saw a headline and it was like Zoom's nine-year overnight success.

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And so I was like, oh, well, I've been hearing about this.

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Let me find out what it is.

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And it was the guy who used to work for WebEx and he like struck out and made something that's apparently better.

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And I was like seeing all these things with lots of people on there and was like, hey, it might be good for the podcast because, you know, we've always got somebody stuck up in the corner.

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But it's only free for like 40 minutes. I was like, well, that's not going to do us any good. That would be perfect. We should start doing them on Zoom. I was like, I'd have to pay like 15 bucks a month to actually use it. We would literally only do one news item. Yeah. Yeah. We wouldn't even get to the news. So I couldn't rant about the Black Album for 15 minutes an episode? No. You would be like, the Black, and there's your free 40 minutes. Thank you.

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And if we'd been using Zoom, we'd already be done. And you're only getting 10 minutes of me. Exactly. I hope you guys understand that as a Canadian, I'm absolutely horrified by the fact that I made you guys wait for 30 minutes. I was thinking that. I was like, is this just like Canadian leisurely? But I was like, that doesn't seem right. It seems like he would be early, if anything.

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It's no big deal. Joel, help me. I don't understand this whole Canadian... It's not like I got to go to work in the morning. I mean, I do, but I don't have to go anywhere. I need to understand this. I keep hearing from everybody that Canadians are so nice. They're so friendly. What happens when you play hockey? Because you're literally beating the shit out of each other half the time. Yeah, I mean, all bets are off. And then as soon as you get back off the ice, it's like, oh, good game, bud. I'll be back at you. Yeah, let's have a beer. Yeah, exactly. I'm thinking of Jonesy and...

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What's his name from Letterkenny? The two hockey guys on there. Oh yeah. No, not Shorzy, but Jonesy and the other guy. I'm blanking on it, but anyway. Why am I blanking on Letterkenny? This sucks. What about Letterkenny? Why am I blanking on Letterkenny? Oh, I know. I'm all caught up now. I'm sad. The first thing I did as soon as we went on lockdown was binge the last two and a half seasons.

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I'm all caught up and sad. Especially given the eighth season ending. Oh, don't spoil it. I haven't seen it. Well, everybody dies from the coronavirus. Of course. Have you guys been binging on anything? Like TV shows or anything? Well, you know what? I watched Battlestar Galactica way back in 2000 and something. And I've been telling my wife about it and it hadn't been on. I thought I had it somewhere.

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but I hadn't and it just came on Prime. So we've been, we've been the first two seasons of this. The new one, right? Yeah, yeah. Not the original 1970s one, but yeah, the first two seasons of the reboot there are pretty fantastic. They are. What else have we been watching? All sorts of stuff. You gotta watch the Tiger King. That's what I keep hearing about it. So Nikki's watching that right now. It's the best thing I've ever seen in my life. Oh my goodness. So like, I'm resisting that.

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It looks so dumb

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Oh man

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Watch it

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No

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Every episode

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When you think you cannot get any more fucked up and crazy

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It does

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Like if it can't get any more insane

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It does

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See when I hear that

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I just start thinking

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There's just like two dudes sitting around smoking a ton of weed

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It's like what can we come up with next

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And put it in the script

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When it gets that ridiculous

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It's not a script

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It's a documentary of real shit that happened

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Yeah, there's a lot of documentaries on TV that are scripted, too. Oh, no, this is not scripted. Trust me. Well, my wife and I, we've been watching a lot of horror. So we started watching The Haunting of Hill House, which I'd never seen before. Holy shit, we just watched the first episode last night. That was scary. And I watched Midsommar, Hereditary, just all these different horror films. There's something oddly comforting to me to see people struggling through something heinous.

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at a time like this.

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I don't know.

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We'll just turn on the news now, dude.

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It's worse.

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I don't watch the news, man.

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I'm not.

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I can't watch it.

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Oh, I can't either.

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I watched it.

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I'm launching a bill house.

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Yeah.

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Have you seen it?

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Well, no.

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Is it a TV?

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Is it a series?

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Yeah, it's on Netflix.

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It's a series.

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I think there's a season two might have just come out.

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It's fucking really scary.

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Just watch the first episode.

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I guarantee you'll be hooked.

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All right, good. I've been, because my wife goes to bed before me and I'm like, I've been watching some like Midsommar and shit like that. Yeah, no, it's creepy as fuck. I just, we just ripped off the third season of Ozark. I think I watched that in less than a day. All that. I really haven't been watching much of anything. I mean, I, I did the Letterkenny thing and I did, that was just sort of like, okay, now I got to like work and stuff. Um, and you know, doing podcast stuff. So, uh, I haven't really had time.

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I've been watching Vikings too because I never watched the last 10 episodes or something. So I'm almost in through that. Yeah, I need to finish that too. Have you watched Norseman? Not yet. I hear so many good things about it. Oh my goodness, just watch it. Just watch it. It's incredible. It's just, yeah, it's so funny. I gotta make a note of that. It's just perfect.

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I watch the trailers. It looks pretty funny. I just haven't. I usually watch one show at a time. My wife and I watch one and then sometimes I'll just watch my own show at night, just one at a time. So I used to watch a lot more TV, but I like that method a little better. Cool. So, all right. So let's actually talk about music now. So, I mean, what are you working on with all this downtime then?

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Well, I don't know if I told you this or not, George. I feel like you might have gotten giddy if I did tell you. I can't remember. You told me some things. I just didn't know what you want to talk about. So I'll let you drive this. Sure. Yeah, I mentioned that on the 18th to the 21st, Ray was scheduled to record the drums for the next album. Yeah. And then all this stuff hit. Which album?

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The Ross and Blatt 5. And the... Thank you. And the world added. Yeah, and so of course all this stuff happened and then... Yeah, just it's... So that's on hold for now. But in the meantime, I've just... I just thought, well, holy shit. There's no way to get drums right now. So...

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I've just been writing.

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The plan is to release a four-song EP with the caveat that it's e-drums.

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But, I mean, I think people understand right now.

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Sure.

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You know, the limitations.

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But, yeah, so it's four songs.

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I've got them, probably the music, like 95% done.

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And the lyrics probably 80% done.

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And then so I hope to finish all the recordings by the end of this week maybe and next week and Siegfried Meyer is going to master them and then hopefully have them out by the end of April. Oh that's awesome. Yeah. Very cool. So it's all heavy which is all pretty exciting. So this is the first heavy stuff that we'll have done since Metathonia. So it'll be good to get that back out there because having done a bunch of acoustic stuff there's just stuff that you can't do with the acoustic. Yeah.

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It was a lot of fun to do that diversion and to try that stuff out. Part of it is it's really fun to be back in the heavy stuff and have all kind of the tools in my kit available now. Joel has a full toolbox now. Yeah. That's sad though that the drums are getting pushed back because I don't know if you want to talk about when you were initially thinking this was going to come

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But I have to assume that that changes things.

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Well, yeah.

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So the drums for Thrasenblatt V were going to be, you know, they'd be done by now.

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And I'd probably have most of the guitars and bass.

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Oh, not bass.

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Brendan would have done the bass.

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I would have had most of the guitars tracked by now.

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Yeah, the hope was to get it out maybe by the end of the year.

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But all that material is still going to sit in the same box that it's in. It's not going to be touched by this new stuff I'm doing. So it'll get out eventually. But this stuff is just new. The plan is to just hammer out as much music as I can while this stuff's happening. For me personally, but also for the fans and the supporters.

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It'll be helping them out too. So is the new EP under the Thrasenbott name, Joel? Yeah, it is. I've grappled with that a little bit. It's like, well, it's e-drums, but it's Thrasenbott, but it's like, it's one of those things that I think the way we get around it is the fact that we have numbered albums as kind of like the flagship albums, Thrasenbott 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5, and then we have EPs as these sort of diversions or kind of experiments.

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that I do in between them. And I think that when we have those two streams, then people understand that, oh, this is just an EP. This is not kind of the flagship release that we're expecting. That's sort of what we're doing, like, literally right now, because we've been doing some non-numbered episodes. This is a non-numbered episode. And it's like, yeah, it's something for you to listen to, but it doesn't count in the number scheme. Yeah. We did a 99.5 before we

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I did 100. Hey, Joel, just maybe this might help too if you want to. People can't see this. We can see each other. But those boxes in the back, you could always just say you found this tape in your boxes during this time when you had some extra time at home to do stuff. And you found all these great tapes of new music you didn't know you had, you know, if you want to worry about the e-drums. Oh, right. Sure. Yeah. You know, I found a bunch of shit. I don't know. I got to go through it. I'll get it out to you as soon as I can.

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It's still a step up from Throssenbit. You didn't like that one, George? No, I didn't say it was. I'm not that it wasn't good. It was entertaining. But I mean, technology wise, it's a step up from that. And that was, you know. Yeah. Would you consider re-recording the EP with live drums and sending it out again? Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, there's a point that that becomes the thing to do.

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That would be a no-brainer. There's no doubt at all that Ray's not just drumming ability, but her ability to write and to create dynamics in a song and to create textures and that sort of thing, just with drums, would add so much to it. So it would be really cool, depending on how people like the songs, to maybe get Ray to put her touch on the drums.

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We finally met Ray in person because Immortal Bird played at my brewery several months ago. Yeah, how was that? It was a good time. It was good. They played the entire Thrive and Neglect album from start to finish. It was awesome. Wow. Yeah, I had the good fortune to see them in Portland. And yeah, they're just so good. Just so good. Like the musicianship and just the songs. And Ray's just...

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this incredible power on stage.

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Yeah, it's interesting because until we interviewed her for the podcast,

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I didn't realize she grew up right in the D.C. area.

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She wasn't a fan of it.

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No.

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Well, I met her in Chicago and I lived there, so it was a lot of fun.

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And I miss Nate so much hanging out with that guy.

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So, you know, you say you're doing a lot of writing, and whenever you can, maybe that four songs could expand into something longer. Well, so the idea would be get these four songs done, get it out, and then just move on to the next four songs. And then just keep hammering out EPs, and if, you know, eventually I have 12 songs, you know, if I keep doing it that way, then that can be, I don't know, lots of stuff you can do with that material.

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you can put them all on one CD or you can like, I don't know, re-record the drums to them. Yeah. Have a new album. Yeah. All right. Hey, as long as you're writing, that's the cool thing. Well, the cool thing also too is that I'm, I'm going to be mixing these myself, which is the first, a first for me. Been doing a lot of, so I guess not just writing music, but learning about, you know, that sort of thing. And, but yeah, basically,

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I'm pretty excited to be able to have that aspect of it in my hands because then I don't mind spending more time on it so when I'm doing an album the process so far has been hey Siegfried I have all these tracks and he's like sweet I'll mix them and he sends them back and how do they sound oh great just turn that up there it's like okay perfect done kind of thing but when the mixing's in my hands and when I'm listening to it it's like you know what that's good but maybe they'll just like

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put this up a little bit here you know what another guitar would go nice here and maybe this or that and so down the rabbit hole you go down the rabbit hole i go and i think that is kind of where um where it can where i can well that's where i think that's where um that ability to sit on a track and then kind of add what just incrementally makes it better over and over again for you know a couple

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weeks or something like that really just adds just enough nuance that it makes a difference and so um yeah so anything that sounds like it might sound good in the song is uh is something that i'll try and uh yeah so i'm pretty excited for that whole process because i think it'll it'll add it'll add something that the previous albums hadn't haven't had even if it does i feel like that's kind of the mitigating factor for the e-drums is that it'll have i'm not sure how over the top the number of vocal tracks will be but like it could be

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It could be massive. I still want an acoustic track with you and Nikki. Come on now. Oh, right. Yeah. There's one of those planned for the for album five. With her? Yeah. Yeah. Sweet. Yeah. Nikki had agreed already to do do some harmonies on that. But yeah, maybe I'll throw one of those into the next little EP. So the cool thing about this EP, do you guys want to hear what the cool thing about this EP is? Yes, please. Yeah. So thematically, it actually,

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is a cool idea as well that it's following. Do you guys know who Chris Hadfield is? Yeah, the space cowboy. Canadian space cowboy. Yeah, that's the one. He's an absolute Canadian. That's why I say space cowboy. He was a space cowboy. He's the Canadian astronaut who did the Major Tom thing. I don't know why I say cowboy, whatever. He was the commander of the International Space Station. Oh, yeah, yeah. I know who that is.

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Yeah, and he recorded a cover of Major Tom in space. Sweet. So he's this, like, major Canadian just hero. And he did a video a couple weeks ago, actually last week about, well, basically it was this, you know, hey, I'm Chris Hadfield. I know a little bit about self-isolation. And so, you know, he, but also self-isolation in a time, in a scenario of, like, risk and danger.

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And so he has this great little two-minute video on how just to deal with it and how to thrive and how to make the best of it. And so I've taken his concepts and I've turned it into a four-song EP. Wow. So he had these four little rules that he kind of used. And so I've made one of each song kind of using metaphors and that kind of thing and kind of very throst and blattized. But it's the same message. You're so clever.

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What were the four rules? So basically he said, in order to kind of thrive in self-isolation in a dangerous environment, the first thing you have to do, number one, is to understand the actual risks. Don't just be afraid of things. Don't just be afraid. Find some good sources and understand the actual risks to you and your family and the people you care about and that sort of thing. And the second thing was to figure out what

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What are your goals? What do you want to do right now? What's your purpose in the next week, month or whatever? And once you've figured that out, then look at what are your obligations? Who are you beholden to? Who do you have obligations to? What are your financial resources and that sort of thing? And once you have those three things taken care of, then the fourth thing is just to act. Just take action. Just do.

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put your plan in action.

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Don't be afraid.

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It doesn't have to be the things that you all have done.

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It can be all sorts of stuff that you've never thought you would do.

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And that you can learn how to play guitar if you've never played guitar.

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You can learn another language.

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You can, you know, especially now because we literally have the entire work of the world at our fingertips.

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And so it's a pretty good time if there ever had to be a time to be self-isolated.

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this would be a very good time. Yeah, so those are kind of, that's kind of the gist of it. And I've kind of turned those four little tenets into a four-song EP. That's cool. And timely, obviously. Well, yeah, it's like, what can I do right now to, you know, help people or, you know, to make, you know, my supporters, you know, lives in any way better. And like, yeah, so that's kind of what I've been up to.

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I've been wanting to read his book for a long time, actually. Just haven't ordered it. I didn't know he had a book, and now I really want to read his book. I guess I call it The Astronaut's Guide to something. Can't remember. That's an odd title, but okay. Hold on. Let's see. An Astronaut's Guide to Life on Earth. What Going to Space Taught Me About Engineers

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It just keeps going. About ingenuity, determination, and being prepared for anything. I feel like I've heard of that. Chris Hadfield, yep. Yeah, it's on my wish list. I just haven't purchased it. Nice. Yeah, he's one of those people that makes me proud to be a Canadian. Right on. Yeah. All right. Well, anything else musical you want to talk about? Yep. I just figured there must be them.

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I think.

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Well I know you had been working on some other non-metal material as well.

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Oh right.

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Yeah I've been playing around with that kind of great northern mist stuff.

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Uh huh.

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Um yeah that stuff's a blast.

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Kind of um I don't know it's it's like uh what happens when I get in front of a you know an 88 key weighted keys synthesizer and put on just fun like you know not fun but like uh kind of uh.

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I don't know sounds that kind of are what's the right word I don't know it's kind of atmospheric ethereal ethereally but not like not too much that still have kind of a anyway and so yeah I did I did I did I did an album I don't know it's 2018 maybe now just great northern mist dot band camp dot com and it's it's kind of like

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What happens if Thrasenblatt was outdoors without vocals but without guitars? But electricity somehow. But electricity somehow. I don't know. It's one of those things that it's again I think in a lot of the music that I make it has to bring me somewhere. Somewhere new and that's like the basis of all that stuff. So it's kind of soundscapes that have Yeah. Super chill. It's like if I had a

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That's what I would listen to.

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So it's like ambient music?

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It's kind of, but it's not.

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It's more like...

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I think that it's a little bit like...

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This is going to sound weird, but it's a little bit like

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Super Nintendo

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music, but it's not

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an instrumentation.

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80s video game music?

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It's more like video game music in that it

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has a defined...

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Soundtrack?

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No, no.

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Here you go. Go to the band camp page and listen to it. There we go. Yeah, no, it's like there's a melody and there's a rhythm and there's a chord progression, but the actual point of the music isn't necessarily to be a catchy song. It's to bring you somewhere where the music is interesting and that is, you know, that's,

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an interesting soundscape that's kind of probably, I guess, congruent with any, with most things that you'd think would be congruent with Ross and Blatt. Like, I don't know, you know, on top of a mountain. But like, you're not like, you haven't just conquered the mountain. You're just up there kind of chill and like pretty pensive about it, maybe. Communion. I'm sure. Yeah. Oh, coming one with the mountain. Yes. Well, yeah. Geez, that's, um, maybe that'll be a track on a title.

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the next Great Northern Miss track. Yeah, it's actually pretty good. Cool. I thought they would all be called George, but yeah, that's a pretty good one too. You sent me a few clips of things. Great Northern Miss is GNN, which is George. Never mind. You sent me some clips of some things, a little bit throst and blotty, but I thought there was one that had Great Northern Miss potential as well. Thanks for being the sounding board on that, George. Appreciate it.

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Anytime, you know that. I definitely want to listen to that. Yeah, it's cool. I like it. Kind of has, I was listening to it, kind of has like a Middle Eastern, South Asian kind of flair to it, like a sitar kind of sound. Yeah, that's what George said. And I'm still puzzled by it, but it's like, that's great. Yeah. I picture like, you know, some kind of great northern mountain in mist. But there are big mountains in the Himalayas.

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Oh, fuck. Like really big ones. Oh, man. Huge. They converged on something. Great Eastern Myst. Wow. That's the sequel. Then the like Southern you'd be like down in South America. Mystical? No, that'd be M-Y-S-T. I don't go there. Mostly. For copyright reasons. Oh, Myst, the game, yeah. No, I try to keep my music. It takes you somewhere.

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But it's

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Yeah, like right to the fucking Himalayas

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Yeah, direct fucking flight

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But yeah, the point of it's not to be kind of

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mystical or anything like that

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The point of it's just to give you a cool

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ambience to

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experience

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a walk with or

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watching a fire with or something

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You're a musical Sherpa

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All right, well, that's great. But do you think you're going to work on any more of that in the coming months? I don't know, probably. If I get a nice flow going where I can churn out a song in a day, then there's sometimes that just happens. And then it'd be easy to get another one hammered out in a week. Yeah, those are,

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Very interesting weeks when I'll just like, you know, I'm going to sit down and write some music and it just happens. And then, you know, five days later, it's like I have eight songs. It's like that didn't exist five days ago and that are I'm very, you know, happy exists. And, you know, some weeks, of course, you try, you sit down, I'm going to write some music and just like, yep, that's not going to do it. So the effect of that is that those weeks when things go really well, you, you know, are still

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I'm still kind of, as always, astounded that I fucking did that. It's like, holy crap. Okay, all right, okay. I don't understand how I did that, but I did that. So that's actually a metric I use when I decide what's going on with Rossum of the album. It's how much can I believe that I did that song? If I'm in awe of it, then this goes in an album. And if I'm like, yeah, that's fine.

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Sounds like me. Yeah, less about sounding like me, but more about just sounding like, how the fuck does this exist? That means it needs to go on an album or anything else. Yeah, it's like, that's pretty good. Maybe it can be something great later, but not yet. Joel, is that how the process usually works for you, where you noodle around on the instruments to come up with songs, or do you just sometimes hear it in your head, and then you need to get it out on instruments? You know what? It's both of those, and the best ones are the ones that

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happen in my head and I just need to get out. So like

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Unmetathonia, the first

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it's actually a fun little way to write music.

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The second song, She Who Names the Stars, the first

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third of it with the clean guitar

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and then the chorus of it was actually

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I was sleeping and then the melody

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I'd like dream of the melody and it was so exciting that I like woke up from it and then I went immediately and recorded it and that's exactly what King Diamond did with Abigail he woke up and wrote the whole album the whole album that's what he said I mean lyrically maybe I don't know or the concept for it I got three minutes of music out of that dream well you're not King Diamond are you no it's clearly not hold on Joel that was you heard this in a dream or you you came up with this in a dream

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Yeah, that was George. What? He was thinking of you telepathically and sent that to you because he's such a big fan. Yeah, but if that was the case, it would have been terrible. Because if I sent it, it would have not been good. He still had to work on it. I mean, come on. That's why I have nightmares every night. Thanks, guys. That's cool, though. For writing similar, I always have a notebook near me, and a lot of times I'll have a dream and just wake up and I have to write something down, even if it's just like a part

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of something.

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Yeah.

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So yeah, it's pretty cool.

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Yeah, I find a lot of times I'll start, like you say, just start noodling.

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And then to me, that is the beginning of kind of slowly getting into some headspace.

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And then once the noodling will then kind of create some kind of pattern that resonates.

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And then that pattern, I'll just kind of play it a little bit.

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And then that will kind of necessitate the next thing that comes. And then, you know, I'll kind of keep and I'll kind of record that. And then once that kind of those two ideas have paired, I'll, you know, either repeat them or whatever. And then I'll kind of, well, the trick I use is to kind of record them and then kind of put a drum part afterwards, but with no music to it. And so after the second part, if I don't know what's going to come next, I'm playing it.

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And then this drum part comes, and then the rhythm of the drums will actually kind of inform what actually has to come next with the song. So a lot of it's just like exploring once you've kind of created a melodic kind of idea or whatever. It's kind of exploring what it could be. Yeah, so there's a lot of adventuring, I think. I like that. When I'm writing, too, they call it breaking the story sometimes, where you have all these different parts, but you're not quite sure.

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how it's going to fit together. And sometimes I have to leave it alone and come back to it and then I'll just think of something amazing and then there it is. There's the bridge. That's how everything becomes whole. I love that part. It's my favorite part. Yes. That's cool. That's awesome. Oh, man. So the, and then just to do with writing still, yeah, a lot of times what I'll do is this works like unbelievably well.

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is just like right for whatever like two hours like whatever until i'm kind of at a point where i've satiated what i can do with them at that time and then like okay i don't know what happens next and then i've you know put it down and i go and like have a shower or like take a bath or something like that something that involves no screens no no stimulus at all and bubbles and bubbles and um bath bomb

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And then in the absence of stimulus, the stuff that I've been working on is still floating around in there. And then new kind of patterns emerge that I'm just like, oh, sweet. And I kind of have like a Archimedes moment where I dash out of the bath and get the whole house wet. He's going over to record the idea. That's awesome. All right. You just put another new fantasy in George's head. Thanks.

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I have no doubt in George's ability to have created that before. You guys. Joel, I have no idea how much you actually listen to this podcast when you're not on here, but man, we relentlessly tease George about his man crush on you. It's not a crush. It's a respect. Yeah. That's great.

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All right. All right. So. Oh, God. Okay. Go. You're ready. You're ready to move on. No, no, not at all. Go ahead. Um, what was I going to say? Something about bubble bath, fiddling with something, uh, running naked through the house, prancing naked through the house and with streams of bubbles flowing off your body, running to your musical recording room to a picture of George. Is this George's fantasy or your fantasy? Well, it sounds pretty detailed there, buddy.

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I'm embellishing a little bit for George's benefit. So I remember what I was going to talk about was that we talked about dreams a little bit. So I had a dream the other day in which in which I had. So basically, what's the what's the you know, like when when you have a guest over, they sometimes they'll like leave you a gift, you know, as like, thanks for letting them stay or whatever like that.

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So I had a dream that Adam Savage was our house guest and that the gift that he'd given us, one, you know, it's kind of like, oh, thank you for letting me stay here. And he'd left early in the morning for his fillet or whatever. And I walked into the guest room and he'd turned it

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to a music studio for me. And it was just the best dream. So, I don't know. It's one of those, he's someone I have a lot of respect for. Maybe similar to, I might have a man crush on Adam Savage. I'm jealous. Some bathtub fantasies about him too. What's that? Bathtub fantasies? No. I haven't gotten that far with him.

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them yet, no. I should start a podcast and have him on it and then maybe. By the way, I did, we did give you something, because I remember we got a bottle of wine for Nicky, and I must have gotten you beer to go. Yeah, oh yeah, absolutely. Yeah, you absolutely did. Didn't want to be rude to a Canadian. Or you. Even though I was 30 minutes late for the pod. Yeah, it's all right. Still, the shame. Shame. It's okay.

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Not like anybody's got anywhere to go. And fortunately, we like each other. We've podcasted a bit. A little bit, yeah. Yeah, appreciate it, gents. I do. All right, so I asked you about a top five. We've been asking everybody this. The top five albums that you would want with you in quarantine if you were dragged off by the government. I'm sure the Canadian government might let you have ten. But what five albums, metal albums, presumably,

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What would you want with you in that scenario? Okay. So I wrote it down and it's in another room, but I'm going to go from memory. Number five would be Equilibrium Sagas. Okay. Because it's like 80 minutes of incredible folk metal. So it's a good bang for your buck. Number four would be Annihilation of the Wicked. Oh.

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That'd be Niall. Absolutely. Yep, by Niall. Number three would be, I think, Anthems from the Welkin at Dusk by Emperor. Nice. I'm trying to cover all of the kind of musical kind of bases that I would be interested in covering, you know, in a quarantine or whatever. The equilibrium would get the kind of the folk, the folk, the upbeat, kind of that sort of thing going.

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The Nile would, you know, it's just the speed and just like the heavy death and the technicality. The Emperor for like, you know, just the mindscapes. Majestic philosophical mindscapes. I think it would either be Imaginations from the Other Side or Nightfall on Middle Earth by Blind Guardian would be number two. Sweet. Got your power covered. Yeah, got the power. And just listen to Hansi sing. He's just like, man.

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Did you hear the new Demons and Wizards? I saw the video three months ago, I think. And it confused me because they all looked like businessmen. I haven't seen the video. They're all wearing suits. And John Schaffer has his hair cut short and he's got it slicked back and they all look like they're about to do a business deal. But the song was good. It just was really, it just didn't mesh with what I was expecting to see.

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It was almost like I was looking at an Investor's Group commercial when I was supposed to be watching a heavy metal video. But it had all the good stuff, too. I'm being a bit tongue-in-cheek if Hansi or John are watching or listening. You've got to commit to one of those albums, though. Which one? Didn't you say there was two that you were considering? Oh, the Imaginations or Nightfall? I think I'm going to go Nightfall. I'm going to go Nightfall. It's just got more

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It's got more

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The songs there

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They're more unique

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I think

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Than

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I don't think there are any other of their albums

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That have songs that sound quite like them

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Yeah

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Plus you get the story in between each song too

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Yeah

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Absolutely

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You get the added bonus

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Yeah you get a little bit of voice acting in there too

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Yeah

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Yeah there's some fantastic voices on that album

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Yeah

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Jeez. But yeah, Hansi's just, he's just a man. I just love listening to him sing. He's a big, there's another man in Christ of mine. So album number one was, oh fuck, what was it? It was, man, let's just talk about something else and it'll occur to me. It was a good one. I was actually thinking about the Demons and Wizards stuff. I know initially

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early on, but I don't know if that's the case still. They were doing stuff based around the Gunslinger, the Stephen King Gunslinger stuff. I was wondering if the new album, the Dark Tower, yeah. I was wondering if the new stuff follows that theme too, because you're talking about the business suits and stuff, and like towards the end of the series, there's a bit that that could possibly be about, but I don't know. I listened to the album.

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but I didn't pay attention to the lyrics. I remembered it. Sorry, I cut you off, George. What an impolite thing to do. Sorry, I was just vamping until you were ready. So un-Canadian. I know. I think I'm already going to get a big tax hit because of being 30 minutes late on this podcast. You have shamed our country. What does this about? You know, there was a Letterkenny episode, and I don't know if you've seen it yet, where some Jehovah's

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comes out to the farm and they're like did you hear how he says about he said it like about and there's this whole long thing about how to pronounce about yeah funny it's great when i was when i was in the states i uh i had to do i was i did a um like one of the classes i took was like you know like a speech speech class or whatever and so i did one of my speeches about how to speak canadian and um so one thing that i kind of noticed was that everyone thinks that

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We say a boot. But, and so I drew a picture of a boot on the chalkboard. And then I went over and I crossed it out. And then I drew a sailboat. Yeah, a boat. We say a boat. We don't say a boot, we say a boat. Yeah. So that's the number one thing to remember if you're trying to impersonate a Canadian. At least an East Coaster. So what was your number one album? Moonsoro, Voimasta Yakuniasta. Gesundheit.

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No conjuring demons again

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Good thing Jay's not here

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Hey Joel

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How many camel albums will you try to sneak in now

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With those five albums

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Yeah I was gonna say four

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The first four

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Yeah

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Well it is Canada

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So after your stay

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The government's gonna give you an album as a present

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Right

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Yeah

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So John did you ever check out the

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I bought all four

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What's that?

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I bought all four camel

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That's what you're going to ask. Yeah. Oh, yeah. They're good. What do you think? I love them. Yeah. Yeah. A band that I recommended to somebody today. Has anybody here heard of the Osric Tentacles? Yes. Oh, God. Yeah, I've seen them. Yeah. Oh, that's amazing. Yeah. That's awesome. I love this. This is great. Yeah, it's got to be a Prog Power thing, huh? No, I saw them at Nierfest, a different festival.

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So they seem like they're incredible live too, right? It was the current incarnation of the band, which is basically him, his wife, and I don't know who else is. All the mid-period people are gone. Like, see, aren't in the band anymore. So they don't have that kind of weird kind of, I'm sure as you know, that kind of electronic kind of proggy porno sound. They kind of developed.

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If you've ever listened to them, their former bass player had this way of just creating this kind of porno bass. It was amazing. He's so good. Prog porno. It's basically space rock. It's very at the role. It's good stuff. There's only like 152 albums to choose from. There's so much stuff out there.

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I love their, I don't know how they do it, but like world building, because they have all these fantastic album titles and song titles. Yeah. And then they're paired with these huge soundscapes that are melodically just delicious. Yeah. A lot of space rock can just kind of get noodley and just kind of atonal sometimes, but they've got it. It would have been kind of cool if Lemmy had dredged up his old 70s playing and got it.

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I got together with them one time with his Hawkwind experience. That would have been kind of cool just because bass is such a big deal in that band. I completely forgot about the two connections there, sort of, at least genre-wise. I don't know if the rest of you guys would like Osric's. It's a little different. I would try it. I don't know if I'd like it. For me, it's fantastic background music for writing anything.

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So,

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because it's just like,

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you just,

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you listen to it and all of a sudden there's nothing else around you except just whatever's in your,

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on your headphones.

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So,

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and it's kind of,

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it's got really good grooves and really good repetitions that kind of,

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just kind of space you out and,

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or,

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you know,

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and so you're able to just concentrate whenever you're doing.

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So,

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yeah.

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Awesome.

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Yeah.

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It's kind of like a prog rock dead heads that follow them around.

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So they wouldn't be dead heads,

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but they'd be like prog heads,

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I guess.

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It's,

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So in essence for Will, they're still hippies. So that's all you need to know. Dirty hippies. I hate hippies. All right. Well, cool. Thank you for indulging us with that. Oh, geez. My pleasure. Does anyone else have any other questions before we wrap it up? Just one real quick one. We don't have to go into much detail, but

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I was telling these guys earlier that Enslaved did a live cast for some benefit or whatever for some venue. It's the Vertet Online Music Festival. And they played a show today for like an hour and 10 minutes live. And it was on a stage, but obviously with no audience, which was interesting to see them put in a performance like that and in between songs to thank people. And there was nobody there, which was kind of funny.

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because they realized they did that and joked about it but i was thinking in the future i know you guys don't tour but is it something that you would think about if it was feasible to do something like that i mean i don't know a live stream of some kind yeah do other do you guys ever talk about possibly doing that it seems like it's becoming very popular right now of course live nations jumping all over it to make every dime they can get off of it but i'm just curious of bands that can't tour as much if that's an option for them to do at some point if it's feasible

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and you can get something out of it.

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Yeah, that's a really good idea.

02:56:44.280 --> 02:56:44.940
That's a really good question.

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I think that for us, the major blocker to touring is the rehearsal time that it would take to get, you know, a 60 minute set together.

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And then that rehearsal time added to whatever kind of time you need on the road to actually make that rehearsal time worth it.

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So if we're all in the same city.

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That's what I was saying. If this was like a one-off or maybe one or two times you did this, would it be more feasible if you could pull that off? Because you wouldn't have to take that two or three or four-week time. I don't know. I mean, I wonder, I heard something like 4,000 people watched it today. I mean, I know that's not many worldwide, but you do that, and if they charge like five bucks, that's a lot of money. If you can get that kind of worldwide appeal. Who knows? I don't know.

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I just it all hurt to me because I was watching the thing live. You could do a zoom where all of you are on different places playing together and that would be awesome. But John you basically what you're doing there is doing an entire tour in one show because everyone who would go out to the tour just joins us from the living room. Yeah. I know that's a it's an interesting aspect of it. Hey Joel where does Brendan live? Brendan lives in in Portland Maine.

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Okay, so he's not too far from you. No. No. So he came up for the one live show we've done. The acoustic live show last year. And that was a lot of fun. So he was up for two or three days before the show for rehearsals. And then we did the show and then recorded the Live Off the Forest Floor album. So, yeah. George, did you see the review that it's got on Encyclopedia Metallum? I did not. We've got a 15% review for...

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I was googling for something else and I was like oh look someone reviewed that and I was like oh yeah that's right yeah that was obviously somebody didn't know what the hell they were talking about well I love the fact that it's like they were so mad about it that they couldn't just put a stop on their you know or click stop on their

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on the web browser. They had to write a thousand word essay about it. Yeah. That's what I don't get. It's like, I got better things to do than to sit around and trash somebody. You know, what kind of, what kind of bug do you have to have up your ass to want to go and spend your time tearing down something that somebody else did that you maybe aren't qualified to actually talk about? The narcissist bug. Yeah. Seriously. You just got to take that with a grain of salt. Yeah.

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I've had mostly amazing reviews for my book, but I remember there's this one review I got, and the guy starts off by saying he doesn't like dinosaurs, doesn't like cooking, and that's what the main premise of my book, Voracious, is about. Why are you bothering even reading it? It's crazy. It's got dinosaurs and cooking. Maybe I should read that, even though I hate those things. Marcus, I think you would have enjoyed a negative review had it started out. I absolutely love dinosaurs, and I

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I'm a chef.

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That would have been better.

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Yeah.

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At least that's honest.

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Right.

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And at least you have some expertise.

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Yeah.

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He used way too much garlic in that dish.

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I would not cook a dinosaur that way.

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Markisan dinosaurs and cooking.

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You just.

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Oh yeah.

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Yeah.

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I guess I never told you.

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It's called Voracious about a chef who travels through time,

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kills dinosaurs and serves them at a restaurant in the present.

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Oh yes.

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It's badass.

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I have a friend who needs this book. So is it a novel? It's a comic book. It's a comic book. It's on Amazon. But yeah, it's also really about a guy who's trying to get over loss. So all the characters experience some kind of a loss. He just happens to make dinosaur sandwiches to do that. I love that so much. Thanks, Will. Oh my goodness. Yes. Cool.

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Well, that's one of my favorite premises I've ever heard. Yeah, because time travel is used as like, you know, it's used in a lot of ways, right? But and but but OK, so I've got a friend who is a huge heavy metal fan and we're the we kind of like, you know, we go way back and we kind of discovered heavy metal together. But one of his things is that he wants eventually to go around the world and eat every endangered

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animal.

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Not every every every animal, including the endangered ones.

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And I think that's just him being funny.

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He doesn't really want to reduce any any species to nothingness.

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But this would be the perfect way to satisfy him.

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Yes.

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To travel back in time and get him like a woolly mammoth.

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And yeah.

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You know, I love that premise so much.

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I know we're all friends with Markisan, but I can honestly say what I love about this book is

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It's like a dark noir romantic

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comedy. Not romantic comedy. There's romance in it. There's comedy in it.

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But

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whoever his illustrator, the guy

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Jason

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Jason, man, he draws

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some hot women.

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I knew you were getting to that.

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It's not like

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you haven't seen other comics because

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These are like normal looking women in our comics. Not like normal other comics. Marcus said it's the same thing. I thought it was like he doesn't say much. It's like some stuff you're like wah? It is really funny. Have you seen Vampirella? You know what I mean? Something like that. Hey Will, have you ever read Heavy Metal Magazine? I just watched that movie.

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again last night. It's terrible. Oh, yeah. Oh, that movie's awesome. It's intended to be that bad. Oh, man. It's really bad. Well, it's really misogynistic, too. But I remember loving it so much as a kid and rewatching it. I just I shouldn't have rewatched. I don't think. Have you guys seen Heavy Trip? Yes. Oh, my goodness. I love that. Such a delight. Yeah. It's a bit crazy. Yeah. I had a friend.

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who I used to work with and he worked somewhere else and then like

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two o'clock on a Thursday he texted me he's like you need to leave work right now and watch this movie

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I think I had to buy it to watch it or something

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yeah I bought it off iTunes

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yeah

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have you seen

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the Finnish

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Christmas movie something

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Rare Export or something like that

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Oh yeah.

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Rare Export.

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I've seen it.

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That was a fucked up movie.

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We watched that at my parents' house for Christmas because my sister wanted to and my parents were just like,

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Oh,

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why are there a hundred naked Santa Claus's with their junk flinging around running through the woods?

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Very interesting movie.

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If you haven't seen that.

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And on that note,

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a hundred junk running around in the forest.

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Old man junk.

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Yeah. All right. Well, if we don't have any more questions, we'll let Joel go. Well, gent, it's been an absolute pleasure. Thank you for joining us. I'm very glad that you are well and hanging in there. Yeah. Likewise with you guys. Stay safe there. Yeah. And we look forward to hearing some new music soon, hopefully. Sounds like. Yeah. Where can people go and listen to Throttle?

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or Great Northern Mist Music? Well, you can go to throstenblot.bandcamp.com or greatnorthernmist.bandcamp.com. And you can also check out Thostenblot on Spotify or any of the big platforms. Awesome. Go pick something up. Support Joel. Yeah. Woo! Woo-hoo! Great. No, appreciate it, guys. It was great being on. And yeah, thanks again for the 30-minute wait.

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And it will now be public as well. I wasn't even going to mention it in the thing, but you brought it up, so it's out there. It's cool. Just give us all presents and we'll be fine. Yeah, or just finish the music and get that out. That's present enough. That's true. All right, man. Thanks a lot. We'll talk to you next time. All right. See you, Joel. Take care. See you guys. Bye.

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